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Reproductive Justice and Gender

Hollywood Tells Women to Settle for Schlubby Losers

By Natalie Krinsky , The Frisky. Posted June 9, 2008.


When are we going to see a slacker, overweight female lead who's married to her bong score with a hot, successful dreamboat?
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Picture for a moment, if you will, the opening sequence of a film. A romantic comedy. Close, on the female lead, she stands in her apartment a puzzled look on her face -- darn it! She wants love! Dating is hilarious! Sex is hilarious! People chase other people through airports and make embarrassing speeches at corporate functions all in the name of L-O-V-E. This female lead is unemployed. She is a slacker. She's uncertain what she wants to do with her life, but she is certain that she's ten to fifteen pounds overweight. She engages in recreational drug use, sometimes even drinking bong water. She fears change and cries at the drop of a hat. But boy is she lovable!

Her boyfriend/love interest is handsome, smart, well-educated, financially stable, adventurous and athletic. Sounds improbable right? A far-fetched fantasy that would never make it past a studio executive's assistant. Right? Now imagine that these characters are reversed; the bong-water drinking counterpart of our relationship is a man-boy, and the sexy smart sophisticate is a twenty-eight year old woman. Now that sounds like a movie. In fact, it sounds very much like every romantic comedy I have seen in the last year and a half. Now I may sound a little militant here, and for that I apologize but I have to ask -- WHAT THE F%$*? Why has the romantic comedy turned into more of a male fantasy than a female one? And why is Hollywood telling well-rounded, beautiful women, that we should just settle?

I live in Los Angeles, and as it goes, I have dated my fair share of drug-addicted, semi-employed losers (they're also called by another name -- "writers") and none of them has ever provided a happy ending. I know what you're thinking -- not everyone can end up with George Clooney (especially those of us who aren't former Vegas cocktail waitresses). But whatever happened to the handsome, slick, successful dreamboat who sure made some romantic faux-pas here and there, but always wound up doing the right thing? What happened to Michelle Pfeiffer ending up with Robert Redford? Or Catherine Zeta-Jones and George Clooney? Or Demi Moore and Rob Lowe?

Let it be noted, I am all for the nice guy. I want them to finish first. Every last one of them. I do. I really do. But why can't the nice, sweet guy bring anything else to the table? Hollywood is telling smart, successful, and sexy women everywhere the best that they can hope for is a "good" guy. What about hoping for our equivalent? Let's be honest: What the hell is Katherine Heigl doing with Seth Rogan? Seriously. Why, in Forgetting Sarah Marshall, can Jason Segal sob like a child, exhibit not an ounce of male prowess and still end up with hotter than thou Mila Kunis? The entire time I was watching that movie I wished that homeboy would just grow a pair. That film shouldn't have been titled Forgetting Sarah Marshall; it should have been titled How This Dude Got Sarah Marshall In the First Place and Life's Other Great Mysteries Solved.

Here I am, about to wave my feminist freak flag -- but the problem with Hollywood today is not the triumph of the nice guy, but the unbelievable triumph of the loser. The fantasy is no longer that you too can get the dreamboat package. Instead, it's that you too can make your mediocre slacker grow up. And guess what? That's the biggest fantasy of all. I've tried -- and it just doesn't work.

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Beta Man, Meet Alpha Girl, and Vice-Versa
Posted by: QQOblivion on Jun 9, 2008 1:47 PM   
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Suggestion: Stop seeing movies where the slacker guy gets the beautiful bombshell, if you don't like that kind of movie.

Those kind of movies are written by, and are for, guys like me: Lovable losers.

When not-so-hot women make movies about getting studly alpha males, then go see those movies.

I will refuse to ever see such a movie myself, though. (Actually, I detest ALL romantic comedies.) And I will delight in any bad reviews and box-office returns if the movie has those. (I am not against not-so-hot women. Not at all. But I am against studly alpha males.)

But as long as lots of lovable loser men are writers (as you yourself pointed out), then movies where the loser guy gets the delightful damsel will be the norm.

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. . . and, where's the "Studs compete for the Mousy Girl" Reality show?
Posted by: mcubed on Jun 9, 2008 4:24 PM   
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The continuing narrow "weird immature male fantasy" focus of many movie and TV plots is extremely annoying. I know I'm not part of the target demographic for any of this crap, especially now that I've turned 40!

! ! ! FUNNY ARTICLE ! ! !

I haven't seen any of these movies and don't plan to. I've also dated my share of guys who would be sort-of-partially-happy to have a second "mom" to take care of them (and to complain about!) Thank goodness I don't live in a time/place where that's an option I would consider.

It would be cool to have more movies that I would pay $$ to go see, but oh well. I guess I have time to read the pile of books over in the corner now.

Michele

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haven't you noticed
Posted by: cwilsondrum on Jun 9, 2008 6:24 PM   
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ALL of the television comedy male leads are losers. fat,stupid,immature. and the women they pretend would have them as a husband? good looking thin, smart. get real. I stopped watching that shit a long time ago. I think they even encouraged the woman on king of queens to be as fat as the guy. absurd. what woman in her right mind would have these losers? none

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» RE: haven't you noticed Posted by: kamcallen
schlubby girls?
Posted by: jingles on Jun 9, 2008 6:30 PM   
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How can a loser/looser girl validate her existence by bringing a dreamboat up to her level? Prince Charming has lost his standing in the popular imagination, only because he has to share the pedestal with Miss Perfect. Watch these "romantic" comedies with a bit of perspective and all the characters are desperate losers.

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» RE: schlubby girls? Posted by: LeeAnnG
Please - those hackneyed stereotypes do EVERYONE a disservice
Posted by: stellabloo on Jun 9, 2008 7:46 PM   
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For starters, the notion of a perfect Hollywood life is currently destroying the planet.

Women get the obvious raw end of the deal ... They can be smart, funny, sexy and STILL think that they need a man to validate their existence. Most women are addicted to approval. Really, men find it oddly attractive when a woman doesn't actually NEED a man.

But men sell themselves short too with these images. What's so great about being an unfit slob? - except that it makes you the perfect male consumer.

God forbid, the last thing consumer culture wants is strong men AND women who can think for themselves ;.)

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The happiest marriages tend to be where the female is more attractive than the man
Posted by: fanny666 on Jun 10, 2008 9:37 AM   
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There's actually been several studies on the topic, but here's an example

LINK

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Wouldn't your feminist freak flag...
Posted by: idmaster2000 on Jun 11, 2008 6:35 AM   
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wave if the leading woman was portrayed as poorly as these men are? Do you really want a movie where the woman is bumbling, inept, forgetful, lazy, uneducated, etc? Wouldn't you decry this as a negative image of women?

You can't have it both ways. In our current culture of TV and movies, we have some sort of iron-clad generic convention that dictates that the women are all smart and far more clever than the men who are all morons.

I'm all for going back to the I Love Lucy genre where a helpless but attractive woman is constantly messing things up thus requiring her husband to scold her and guide her into fixing her ditzy mistakes.

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MHerbert
Posted by: MHerbert on Jun 14, 2008 7:47 AM   
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I don't know if it's art imitating life, but my wife and I observed over the years, that smart, good looking women often seemed to be hooked up with guys of no apparent redeeming social value. She passed away last year after thirty nine years of marriage, and I'm no longer likely at 68 to be a hot item for any discriminating female, an observer rather than a participant, but our lifetime of observations led us to believe that maybe young women are with these sort of sleazy slackers becaue that's all there is. Sort of a supply and demand problem.

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Am I a dreamer to want to start a family with a
Posted by: Landbaron on Jun 14, 2008 10:22 PM   
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very attractive high income earning woman with a demanding job, and I have a local part time job, so when the marriage runs it's course, the judge wipes my tears away with her checkbook and I get the house and children....Come on, women aren't that stupid.

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Exactly
Posted by: rickiey on Jun 16, 2008 9:34 PM   
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The feminist movement has acheived it's goals within the entertainment media.

Men are portrayed as bumbling fools, and women are portrayed as intelligent and beautiful.

I guess it's a "hey feminist movement, be careful what you wish for" sort of thing.

Myself, I'm insulted by these movies, and more insulted by sitcoms. But I believe that there should be equality for men too, as politically incorrect as THAT line of thinking is.

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whole genre needs reform as only good looking
Posted by: whealeydj on Jun 22, 2008 10:33 AM   
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get to be romantic leads, so impression left is that only good looking get to have sex. thank goodness that is not true.

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The way it is
Posted by: Greggymark on Jul 2, 2008 11:50 AM   
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Barbra Streisand used to regularly make movies where she would wind up with the handsome, WASP-man, surely wish fulfillment for un-conventional looking woman but that was in the past. I work in the entertainment industry as a screenwriter and I can tell you, it's very hard to show a female character with ANY sort of flaw. Woman in films today tend to be smarter, prettier and now can kick the asses of the men. Men can be lovable losers but not woman.

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