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Reproductive Justice and Gender

Prosecuting Polygamy

By Marci Hamilton, Huffington Post. Posted April 16, 2008.


Authorities must vigorously enforce the laws against polygamy to stem the abuse of women and children in fundamentalist Mormon communities.
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There is nothing so dangerous for a child as an insular, patriarchal religious organization, and the Fundamentalist Latter Day Saints, whose compound in El Dorado, Texas, is now under control of the Texas authorities, is one of the scariest examples. It took the extraordinary bravery of a 16-year-old girl to set in motion a chain of events that should have happened long ago.

She reported that she had been "married" to a 50-year-old man, forced to have sex, get pregnant, and have a baby. Because of her, Texas authorities have taken hundreds of children and women to safety. From all reports, they have yet to find her.

I give the Texas law enforcement and child protective agency officials a great deal of credit for moving in on the compound. They bucked the three trends in our culture that have kept these children at risk for far too long.

First, authorities in general are too fearful of intervening in religious enclaves, even when the harm is so awful and apparent. Yet, there is no right of religious liberty to engage in child and spousal abuse, or polygamy for that matter. The taboo against holding religious entities accountable is simply foolhardy.

In fact, enforcement of the polygamy laws could have stemmed many of these abuses. Yet, it is the rare prosecutor who will prosecute on the basis of the polygamy laws, despite the fact those laws are utterly clear and repeatedly have been upheld against constitutional attack. The largest enclave of FLDS resides in Bountiful, British Columbia. A misguided Canadian public official announced just yesterday that the government cannot go forward with a prosecution of polygamy against the FLDS (where the accounts of abuse are legendary), because of concerns about religious liberty. If Canadian law, though, protects polygamy, it also protects the child and spousal abuse that inevitably follow. That is not religious liberty, but rather religious licentiousness. American prosecutors have been marginally better, though there are many more cases out there that they ignore on daily basis.

If authorities (in TX, AZ, NV, and UT) had vigorously enforced the laws against polygamy, we would not have dangerous cults like the FLDS that are premised on extreme obedience of women and girls to domineering men and the disposal of teenage boys. Instead of preventing systemic abuse and neglect, authorities have been timid in the face of specious claims of religious liberty. It cannot be said often enough: no public official should tread lightly in the face of child abuse even if those perpetrating the abuse don the cloak of religion.

The sheer amount of statutory rape in the FLDS culture (along with physical abuse and neglect) is staggering, but it took the FBI years to put their prophet, Warren Jeffs, on the Ten Most Wanted List and then to apprehend him for taking underage girls across state lines to be married to older men. He was convicted in Utah for his involvement in the "marriage" of a 14-year-old girl to a 19-year-old boy and will face further state and federal charges in separate proceedings. His conviction alone should have put all authorities in the jurisdictions where the sect resides on the alert to rescue the women and children. (The boys do not fare well, either, as many are abandoned in adolescence in order to keep the ratio of men to girls favorable for the men.)


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Marci Hamilton is the author of 'God vs. the Gavel: Religion and the Rule of Law' (Cambridge University Press) and the forthcoming Justice Denied: What America Must Do to Protect Its Children (Cambridge 2008).

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AMAZING
Posted by: gellero1 on Apr 16, 2008 12:54 AM   
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It never ceases to amaze me.....the excuses progressives/statists/feminists will make for Government oppression that suits their agenda.

I wonder what Ms. Hamilton's opinion of the assault with snipers, mini-tanks, ninja style troopers with automatic weapons is.

Oh???.....havn't seen the videos yet??

People of this ilk supported the heinous prosecution of the innocent McMartins in that nortorious 'child abuse at day care' cae in Los Angeles.

Funny how the government is quick to release 911 calls when it suits their purpose, but no info is forthcoming, nor is the 'secret informant'.

Shouldn't be long before the kids are brainwashed, like in the McMartin case, to say they were having sex with devils.

This story is far from over. I'm sure the pregnant teens would have been trotted out for the State's 'dog and pony show' long ago, if it had any degree of truth.

The age of consent is 16. Living an alternative lifestyle in the so-called 'land of the free, home of the brave'.......is not illegal....yet.

Oh....and having a communal family with several women is not poligamy, as long as there is no civil contract.

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IF there is abuse then yes, it should be stopped.
Posted by: nzo on Apr 16, 2008 1:53 AM   
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But if people decide to live according to a lifestyle that is different to your own moral values, and that lifestyle does not set out disempower and harm, then keep your interfering toxic hands off! Many of these folks know more about community than you ever will.

In fact, most of you (including the heavy-handed social welfare agencies and law enforcement hammer wielders) would not know real community if you tripped over it.

One day, in the not too distant future, you may be thankful that there ARE communities you can learn from. But I somehow doubt it. Your armor-plating is way too thick to allow a different way of looking at the world.

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USA war is OK, Love No OK
Posted by: richholland on Apr 16, 2008 2:18 AM   
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Spending my winter in Thailand I saw the institute of "mia luang"and "mia noi"Even the Crownprince has a concubine and a legal wife.

Many societies accept more than 1 wife and some (Etiopie) and africa allow more husbands.

Only sick people want to press their limited view on other societies.

The important thing is LOVE

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» RE: USA war is OK, Love No OK Posted by: mandiwrite
» RE: USA war is OK, Love No OK Posted by: dionysuseatsyou
It's important to distinguish between polygamy and abuse.
Posted by: Morgaine Swann on Apr 16, 2008 3:18 AM   
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I have no problem with polygamy, polyandry, or any other form of plural marriage in which all participants are willing and over 18. Adults should live as they choose. That is freedom. It's not the issue here.

The problem with these cults is that they're abusing children. No girl of 14 should be married to anyone for any reason, but forcing her to marry an old man, who is often a relative, or even her mother's husband in some cases, is child molestation, plain and simple. The state has an obligation to protect children when the parents are incapable or unwilling to do so. These groups are fronts for institutionalized pedophilia. Young girls are raped, young boys driven out into the world with nothing, babies forced to have babies. That's what has to stop.

We have to stop kowtowing to ancient desert custom. This is NOT religion - it's culture that's been passed down from thousands of years and half a world away. It has nothing to do with worship, belief or free exercise of anything. Have 45 wives if you choose, but let them enter the arrangement willingly after age 18. If you can't find adult women who'll marry you, tough luck. We don't all get to live as we choose, and nothing gives anyone the right to force a child into an adult relationship. This is the 21st century - we know better than this, and we must do better than this. The state needs to be far more aggressive in saving these children.

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» RE: Let's be clear on words Posted by: Jasonix
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» You have any actual proof... Posted by: brunowe
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» RE: Yes, actually Posted by: YogiBear
» RE: Better idea Posted by: Jasonix
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» I bow to you, Morgaine Posted by: hurricane hugo
Mr Jazzy
Posted by: jazzy on Apr 16, 2008 4:06 AM   
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Is polygamy the cause for child and general spousal abuse? This is a social evil that every one in society regarded as normal until laws such as the Convention to Eliminate Discrmination against Women and the Convention of the Rights of the Child were ratified by governments in SA and the USA that such conduct is seen as unbecoming

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Life style? Incest?
Posted by: GPFrank on Apr 16, 2008 4:39 AM   
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Sorry about that but polygamy lends to incest in a closed community, how can it be otherwise? If you like incest, look at the history of European royalty and its ailments.

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» RE: Life style? Incest? Posted by: Libertine
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"A misguided Canadian public official. . ."
Posted by: fork on Apr 16, 2008 4:39 AM   
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Hamilton:
"Yet, it is the rare prosecutor who will prosecute on the basis of the polygamy laws, despite the fact those laws are utterly clear and repeatedly have been upheld against constitutional attack. The largest enclave of FLDS resides in Bountiful, British Columbia. A misguided Canadian public official announced just yesterday that the government cannot go forward with a prosecution of polygamy against the FLDS (where the accounts of abuse are legendary), because of concerns about religious liberty."

While s. 293 of Canada's Criminal Code makes polygamy illegal, the worry is that it would not survive a constitutional challenge, and that this "utterly clear" law would be struck down. In Canada, s. 293 has not "repeatedly . . . been upheld against constitutional attack." The "misguided" official:
"Leonard Doust, a senior member of the B.C. bar, agreed with the conclusions of a special prosecutor last year — that having the state pursue polygamy charges against members of the breakaway Mormon sect in the Creston Valley enclave near the U.S. border would likely fail."

Of course, others disagree:
"After carefully considering some of the complexities attendant to this issue, the authors conclude that s. 293 would likely survive a Charter s. 2(a) challenge."

It is not as cut and dried as Hamilton makes it sound in the quoted paragraph above.

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In Defense of Traditional Marriage
Posted by: rcase on Apr 16, 2008 5:04 AM   
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This discussion gives argument to reasons for support of a constitutional amendment declaring that marriage is between one man and one woman. When marriage is defined otherwise we open ourselves up to societal breakdown. Multiple partners, groups, all sorts of arrangements are possible if we are left to define it however we want.

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» wow that was some diversion Posted by: pfeifer999
» No, it doesn't Posted by: hurricane hugo
conformity
Posted by: karyse on Apr 16, 2008 5:25 AM   
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okay, assuming I agree with the idea that ALL citizens everywhere MUST conform to MY idea about the right way to live -- does anyone seriously believe that the children will be better off in government foster care? You can't be serious.

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» YES, they can be serious! Posted by: Iconoclast421
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conformity addendum
Posted by: karyse on Apr 16, 2008 5:29 AM   
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Oh ya, and since when is it okay to take ALL of the children from an entire community? Even if there were so called "abuse" is everyone in the community guilty? What next, arrest everyone in a "hippie" commune because pot was found? Progressives have lost their ever-loving minds and definitely have a problem remembering (or even ever knowing) history.

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» I agree, Mr. President Posted by: pfeifer999
» RE: conformity addendum Posted by: free woman
» game plan is simple Posted by: pfeifer999
Conflation
Posted by: Vaxalon2 on Apr 16, 2008 5:29 AM   
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This article conflates violation of marriage norms with violation of child and spousal relationship norms. Yes, absolutely, it is universally wrong to create disempowering marriages. Yes, it is universally wrong for parents to abandon their children. These just fall under the general rule of "don't hurt people."

What this author seems to be coming at, obliquely (and some commenters, directly) is that for some reason there is a causal relationship between violation of the Western tradition of "One Man, One Woman, One Marriage" and these forms of abuse.

The correlation between fundamentalist religion and the abuse of children would be a much stronger point to make.

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» RE: Conflation Posted by: xenocyd
To bad McCain didnt pick Romney for vp before all this.
Posted by: yale on Apr 16, 2008 6:03 AM   
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He would have had to find a way to dispose of him if he did. I remember traveling through Utah about 20 years ago, and being told by L.D.S. community police that, if we didnt pick up and move along, we would be arrested. For what I didnt know, I assume we were to close to one of the compounds. So we left without conflict, if they searched us they would have found somthing for a legit arrest. But it always pissed me off that they told us to get out of their town. I thought we lived in a free country and always wondered if the Morman police had the authority to legally do what they were doing. Far as I know my tax dollars paid for that state road we were sitting on in Utah. So who the fuck are these people, who keep themselves isolated from the rest of society? I guess we are finding out now what they were trying to hide, their sick and abusive lifestyle. Oh well, Ive been waiting for Mitt Romney to come to the rescue and try to bail out his comrads in Texas, but we aint seen him yet!

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Similar sentiments confuse homosexuality with pedophilia
Posted by: DerekD on Apr 16, 2008 6:05 AM   
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This whole editorial is pretty offensive to me. The issue is not polygamy. Polygamy should be legal and in a perfect America it would be - it's the kind of relationship we have in my household and we should have the same legal protections.

Plenty of people attack homosexuality because they think it's the same as pedophilia - it isn't and most pedophiles are straight. But still people don't mind slandering a lifestyle because it's convenient to their agenda, and they care little about the people living other lives harmlessly since they want to have their say on everyone who is different.

Child abuse, statutory rape, etc. - there are laws for this stuff and this is what needs to be prosecuted.

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Whats sickening is....
Posted by: Marlena on Apr 16, 2008 6:19 AM   
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all the defenders of this misogynistic, patriarchal cult, who under the guise of religion carry out the master and chattel male fantasy!!
The adult women are real life stepford wives, and you alleged "progressives" defend the robotazation of women?? And if you dont think they are robotic, look at the interviews, thay all have the same voice, they all talk and move roboticaly....perfect little living machines. All you defenders of this crap are just enabling it!!
Hope you are happy in your sick little minds

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» Who is a libertarian? Posted by: goatini
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» progressives and women Posted by: e rice
» RE: progressives and women Posted by: meeneecat
turning justice into injustice
Posted by: QCao009 on Apr 16, 2008 6:24 AM   
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When two cultures clash, and the conflict points come to the surface, there is much to learn for both sides. Unfortunately, El Dorado, Texas drives home the incompetence of our federal government the same way Katrina and Iraq have exposed their ineptitude.

I agree with the author that for too long, the authorities in Texas, Nevada, Utah have turned a blind eye to polygamy and the concomitant threat of abuse. Looking at its root cause, we may even find reasons for that blind eye. Does the culture of those small towns - the same reasoning Senator Obama used on the campaign trail to explain the oppression of guns and religion - not encourage this incestuous behavior ? So now, at the end of a faith-based reign of powergrabbing, isn't it predictable that the Bush administration would give free reins to a civil war within those small communities between different sects and cults, some even pretending to pass for Christian dogma and salvation to continue the practice of treating children and women as property ?

Good intention is merely spin if it's propped up by lies. In this case, the separation of the children from their mothers is akin to our disbanding the Iraqui army fresh from the intoxication with our "mission accomplished". Here, in Florida, the people knows better than to trust our child care agencies since the data reveal that our governmental social service foster care system loses the very same children they purport to take care of and wrestle away from the families which they accuse of abuse.

Replacing family abuse and neglect with system abuse and neglect is not the answer. Replacing it with a wink and a nod to the Government's branded and recognized Christian sects simply tears our communities apart and make those very same organizations less compassionate and more divisive.

Isn't it sad that Americans bought the scripted " fight them over there so we do not have to fight them here" line only to once again turn a blind eye to a government who is now fomenting civil strife within our own country ?

Yes, it is time we stop polygamy and abuse. No, having George Bush do it in the name of marriage and Jesus is about the best way to have our efforts to protect these children fail. Blind faith should never be offered to Judas. Even Jesus finds that out way too late.

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» two questions Posted by: pfeifer999
Have you even watched "Big Love"?
Posted by: palladas on Apr 16, 2008 7:06 AM   
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What has gone without comment so far is that Ms. Hamilton didn't bother to watch the HBO series Big Love before attacking it as "glamor[ous]" and "nauseating". The show depicts -- in all its painful difficulties -- a polygamous arrangement between one man, three women, and seven children. It juxtaposes that arrangement with depictions of a polygamous community much like the one in El Dorado, TX. Life in that community involves authoritarian rule by an old patriarchal male figure and his sexual abuse of young teenage girls. Personally, I find those sections "nauseating" because they have not been glamorized.

As for the rest, Ms. Hamilton's central thesis that polygamy, by nature, leads to child abuse is no less ridiculous than someone suggesting that monogamous marriage, by nature, leads to the same. And yet, the vast majority of abused children reside in "one man, one woman" households, right?

Beware of columnists offering simple, knee-jerk solutions to complicated problems.

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Authorities must vigorously enforce .....
Posted by: xvictor on Apr 16, 2008 7:07 AM   
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BULLSHIT!!! MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!!!!

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» you're absolutely right! Posted by: e rice
SO THIS IS THEIR RIGHT ?
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Apr 16, 2008 7:20 AM   
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If we read about this in a foreign country it's uncivilized but here it's OK? Both parents should be put in jail. It's illegal to buy, sell or barter another human being for any reason. Hiding this ugly practice behind a religion is cowardly. This is beyond child abuse it's violence and rape. And that = jail time. The laws don't change inside the compound. It's time these people learned the rules. Thanks, ANNA

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Just a little correction
Posted by: rickiey on Apr 16, 2008 7:29 AM   
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As someone who was raised (and then subsequently left) the Mormon church, I'd like to point out that this was NOT a Mormon church.

The Mormons banned poligamy over a century ago. And not with a "our public policy is that it isn't allowed, nudge, nudge, wink, wink".

It is an automatic excommunication from their church.

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More Credence If
Posted by: curiousdwk on Apr 16, 2008 7:40 AM   
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I would give this author more credence if she were more objective. But by deliberately confusing the issue of polygamy with child abuse and intergenerational sex, she comes across as someone just ranting and raving. Which is too bad because what we need, especially now, is dialogue on these separate issues rather than emotional obfuscations.

And why didn't she discuss the issue of justice for the children? Is it really best for the 400 children to be separated from their mothers as well as their fathers? Why can't the children stay with their mothers? Wouldn't that be a much better system than making them wards of the state? And what happens now with the women? If the men are all removed (and incarcerated?), what happens to these women who were not working and are not prepared to take care of themselves? These issues need to be considered just as much as the guilt of the men.

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Geoff w/ag
Posted by: muzunguhowru on Apr 16, 2008 7:41 AM   
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If the issue of so called polygamy were only about mature females submitting themselves to to a bunch of wacko white males in this bizarre lifestyle in the name of religion I wouldn't care less. This bleating over the "poor" mothers sickens me. The feminists are forever trying to treat grown women like children, too stupid to know whats right for them (whenever it suits them). I wonder if this was a bunch of native Americans doing this or an alternate "amazon" religious sect where women got to subject men/boys would they be so shrill?

Unfortunately this really about about a bunch of dirt bags using religion as a cover to gain access to little girls and to cast out young boys onto the street like trash (yes ladies; children with penises are being abused here too..not that you care)

Grown women can (and should) fend for themselves and be held accountable for enabling their so called husbands. Forget the religious BS. Lock up the men and lock up the co-conspiring mothers too. The insanity has to stop. Keep the extraneous agendas out of it. Its About the children stupid!

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the whole truth and nothing but the truth
Posted by: solrev on Apr 16, 2008 7:43 AM   
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The truth is out there, but it is rally hard to find especially when people state their opinions as a matter of fact. “Prosecuting Polygamy” polygamy is not even an issue; these fundamentalists are not stupid. They have circumvented polygamy laws simply by not seeking legal status. An invisible extraordinary brave 16-year-old girl filed an anonymous complaint naming an individual living in Arizona on probation for a similar offense. If sexual abuse, real or imaginary, against a minor occurs in your town does the state have the authority to abduct every child in your town? What legal recourse do mothers of children who have not been abused have? Have they forfeited their rights as citizens by being members of a religious group? What length will Texas go to, now that they have journeyed down this slippery slope? Brainwashed, most progressives believe that anyone with a belief system beyond that of science is brainwashed. I do not even know anyone who holds the beliefs of this group, but I would be willing to bet that the incidence of child abuse as defined by statute is no greater in this population than in the general population. Then I do not see any difference between the Christian right trying to force their moral laws on a secular society or a secular society trying to force their moral laws on a religious community. Is it even possible for human beings to overcome the “my way or the highway” syndrome? Do the women of this group feel abused? I guess we need to start the swift boat people parade and find out. We are a nation of laws when it is convenient but we are always a nation of people. The truth may well turn out to be something we can not handle.

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