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Reproductive Justice and Gender

Is Feminism Compatible with the Kitchen?

By Vanessa Richmond, The Tyee. Posted February 19, 2008.


The idea that liberated women don't prepare food -- because they are too busy having sex and building their careers -- is just plain wrong.
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"I don't cook. So I made my eat-in kitchen a fabulous walk-in closet," announces a young, attractive woman in the newest Citibank ad.

It's part of a $93 million campaign called "Tell your story," that's appearing in print, magazine, TV and online.

"My name is Grace and I live in a small apartment in a big city," the ad continues. "And since I enjoy a day of shopping far more than, say, cooking, I decided to do a bit of home remodeling. So with my Citi card in hand, I set out to get some closet organizers. I bought a shoe rack for the oven, sweater boxes for the lower cupboards and some 12-inch baskets for handbags up above. I saved room for plates, glasses and silverware. And one large drawer stuffed with take-out menus."

Citibank is so confident that women will identify with "Grace's" sentiment, they're even running the ad in February's issue of Gourmet Magazine.

Their assumption, I guess, is that even a good number of Gourmet's readers (who are mostly women) don't actually cook; they're just sampling the food porn.

This idea -- that liberated women don't prepare food -- isn't one that Citibank just cooked up. In fact, as one female friend of mine quickly pointed out, it's still part of the Sex and the City cultural hangover. Carrie Bradshaw, of course, famously used her oven as a shoe cupboard far before Grace, as a kind of feminist triumph: she likes sex and (therefore) doesn't like to cook. Shopping, friends and men sustained her instead, along with the occasional restaurant meal.

Last of a breed?

But since Sex, the phenomenon has heated up. Recently, I talked to a middle-aged male film director about a dinner he had just cooked for friends. When I subsequently told him about a meal I'd made, he raised his eyebrows. "I don't know a single other woman who cooks -- or at least admits to it in public!" he exclaimed. "You're like a relic!" His male friends all cook, he said. But no women of his generation or younger that he knows prepares food.

Why? In short, men come across as evolved, sexy and creative when they mix things up in the kitchen. But women seem stuck in Leave-it-to-Beaver-land when they step in front of the stove: domestic suckers who aren't paying enough attention to their ambition or their libidos. They're not third wave feminists, embracing women's traditional skills or sexy, busy people who make time for health and family, but women who need a good empowerment talk.

I spoke to a few of my other female friends about it. "I never had anything in the cupboards before I had kids," one friend, a professional singer, told me proudly. "I was out having fun."

"I can't even boil water," another told me, smiling. "If my husband is away, I just eat cereal or get take out." She's never been taught to cook and has no desire to learn. Plus, her husband's dad was a chef, and he loves to cook elaborate meals.

"I put food on the table for the kids every day or whatever, but my partner does the fancier cooking for guests," said another. "It's easier than getting him to help with anything else around the house -- he knows he'll get lots of kudos for being the chef, but none for cleaning the toilet."

Cooking as spectator sport

So actually, two things are happening. One is that some women aren't cooking at all because they see it as low status or unnecessary. And sure, women have been unfairly stuck with the brunt of domestic labor for a long time in a culture that has deemed it lower status than, say, working in an office. Stepping away from the hearth is a form of rebellion and liberation and a way to gain more cultural status, which are both motivations I can sympathize with (even though I think they're both ultimately the opposite of liberated and healthy -- more on that later).


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Vanessa Richmond is the managing editor of The Tyee.

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Toxic feminism has done huge damage
Posted by: Bobsays on Feb 19, 2008 12:42 AM   
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You can see it with the 'slappers' on their nights out, getting drunk, having sex with anything that moves, their health problems and chaotic lives. Toxic feminism wrecks women's lives and is leaving a generation sad, lonely, in bad health, and unable to maintain any stable relationship with a man.

And I haven't even begun on domestic stuff like cooking. Read Michael Pollin's Omnivore's Dilemma to learn how important food and the meal is to overall health. It is not a girlie issue. Eating well and taking the time to do so is critical to being healthy. Toxic feminisim has played a large role in why so many women look horrendous and overeight.

Most women, if they ate right and exercised, would look great. They wouldn't need to spend so much money on cosmetic surgery, fad diets, bad fashion and make-up. The best make-up is a fresh face from a walk around the block and and health salad for lunch. Stop making excuses!

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I don't cook because I'm too busy having sex!
Posted by: logansafi on Feb 19, 2008 12:54 AM   
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Sometimes these alternet articles are just too weird for words.

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» pffft!!!! Posted by: hurricane hugo
Yum-O
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Feb 19, 2008 3:55 AM   
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If your husband is trying to make the perfect souffle or carve roses out of tomatoes, it just means he's trying to avoid taking out the garbage. Men should not be allowed to cook in the house. They make too much of a mess. If he thinks he has a creative flair, let him go outside and burn some steaks on the grill for a while.

"Real" cooking is food that tastes good, even if it only takes 5 minutes to make. Maybe it's just because I watch too many cooking shows, but I tend to agree that the fussy food thing is way out of control. I don't know if I like all of Rachel Ray's recipes, but I kind of like the idea that she's pissing off the fussy chef establishment, and probably outselling them all combined.

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women of today
Posted by: rugger on Feb 19, 2008 4:09 AM   
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Is there any question why today's urbanites need psychiatrists and are so miserable? Maybe that sort of thinking applies to the urbanized culture, but not outside the urban zones.

I wouldn't touch one of the self-centered witches on Sex and the City (I never saw the show, those types of women are a complete turn off). A woman who prides herself on not being able to cook? You deserve the scumbag type of man that will be attracted to you. Get used to a lifetime of meaningless, short-term relationships.

(BTW, I'm a guy who cooks)

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Lean Cuisine
Posted by: psapph0 on Feb 19, 2008 4:14 AM   
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Let's not forget to give credit to the weightloss industry that demonizes real food and promotes frozen "meals" marketed to the chic, savy female consumer. These prepared foods are part of our national eating disorder (as Pollan would put it) and symptomatic of a dying food culture.

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Who the hell are these "liberated women"?
Posted by: hagwind on Feb 19, 2008 5:16 AM   
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The teaser at the top of the article:
The idea that liberated women don't prepare food -- because they are too busy having sex and building their careers -- is just plain wrong.

Sure it is. It's also way too stupid to spend time refuting. Who holds this "idea that liberated women don't prepare food"? Not me, or any other feminist I've known. I can't begin to guess how many feminist projects have been concocted and carried out, how many consciousnesses have been raised, in the kitchen, while cooking and eating together. Why do you think the first feminist press in the U.S. established by women of color was called Kitchen Table: Women of Color Press?

Where do people get this idea that feminism is primarily about having a highly paid go-go-go career in a big city? I'll hazard a guess: advertising from outfits like Citibank, glossy magazines and big newspapers selling high-end products, TV . . . Oh yeah, what a bunch of feminist-friendly organizations! I think some of y'all have been reading too much Christina Sommers, Caitlin Flanagan, and others of their ilk. How many highly paid go-go-go big-city careers promote social, economic, and political justice in any way? (A few, sure, but not many.) When some conglomerate pushes its newest scheme or product as "revolutionary," do you automatically assume that this scheme or product promotes left-of-center politics?

Get outta here. I made some wicked good chili last night. Make some cornbread and come on over; there's beer in the fridge.

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why don't we stop behaving as we're told to by corporate media?
Posted by: Suzon on Feb 19, 2008 5:36 AM   
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Copycat "crimes" are all around us. Sex and the City bears no resemblance to my life and values and I feel sorry for the (mostly young) women who imitate what they see. They are ruining their health and not doing a great deal for their emotional lives.

I have a tattered book which was found in an abandoned gold mine. It sells the virtues of Crisco to the housewife troubled by butter's lack of shelf life (otherwise known as freshness). The Story of Crisco has no publication date but the illustrations show pre-WWI fashions. Did Proctor & Gamble make any money out of it?

I can't think of anything in contemporary life that hasn't been commodified and sold back to us at a profit, including sex and cooking.

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I'm a woman who doesn't cook--
Posted by: ladyoracle on Feb 19, 2008 5:59 AM   
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--not REALLY. I eat Lean Cuisine food, and the only time my pans see the stove is for the occasional veggie stirfry over rice. That's it. And I use frozen veggies. It's not about taste, just some nutrition so I can get back to work.

I am finishing a Ph.D., and if I was spending all that extra time on cooking that this writer suggests I should be (though I didn't see any reason why except a brief paraphrase of some go-organic guy who obviously never had to feed himself as part of a $16000 yearly budget) I would not be as far alng as I am.

I don't cook, and I don't watch TV either, and those are major time-eaters that I've eliminated that allow me to do my REAL work. Writing, research, and teaching.

It is feminism that makes me feel like I am not wrong to do that, and I will be damned if some sentimental traditionalist is going to try to "liberate" me back into the kitchen. It's a waste of time, plain and simple. And I am a triathlete, so don't even talk nutrition to me. You can be healthy and fit without "cooking."

Thanks, Alternet, for this totally uninspiring article to start my day.

p.s. I am also liberated from spending $$ on all those stupid, unnecessary gadgets.

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Don't speak so quickly
Posted by: ladyoracle on Feb 19, 2008 6:06 AM   
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Umm, yeah they are quick, convenient, and nutritious. And they also come in organic ones, like Amy's and Kashi.

And they save time. I don't have enough time for lunch to go offsite, and I sleep roughyl 15 minutes longer when I don't have to make a lunch to take because I can grab a frozen box and leave. That 15 minutes matters to me. Add it up and that's about an hour a week.

I'm so glad all you other people making responses to this article like to cook and have the money and time to do it, and I respect your choice. Respect mine, too.

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TV Dinner
Posted by: particle on Feb 19, 2008 6:34 AM   
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I think it was an exchange on Northern Exposure that summed it up pretty well:
Q: Why do we cook?
A: Because we're hungry.


I'd like to see Chef Ramsey come here and yell at everybody.

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Love to Cook
Posted by: elisabethl on Feb 19, 2008 6:49 AM   
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I love to cook but I hate to clean the toilets. I turned them all into flower terrains and we crap out the window. I feel truly liberated now.

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HEY ! Men can cook too !
Posted by: maxpayne on Feb 19, 2008 7:04 AM   
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I used to always cook my food before I got married. Once married, I still continued to cook though my wife would convince to sit down and take a rest at times. In most cases however, whichever of us has had the least stressful day at work cooks.

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DEAR GOD, PLEASE MAKE THEM LEAVE US ALONE!
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Feb 19, 2008 7:15 AM   
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Enough already! Thanks, ANNA

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If I Want a Cook or Housekeeper, I'll HIRE One, Not Marry One
Posted by: Libertine on Feb 19, 2008 7:15 AM   
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I don't give a rat's rump whether or not the women I see can cook or clean. That's not why I associate with them. I don't cook, either, but we live in the 21st century where restaurants and take-out exist.

I don't need a cook or a maid and if I did, I'd hire them rather than expect a woman to do it for me for free because she's having sex with me.

Besides, I thought feminism was about choice -- to either cook or not cook according to one's personal preferences and life situation. It's not feminism when all women are expected to do the same thing just because they're women.

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keep it simple
Posted by: NoKidding on Feb 19, 2008 7:35 AM   
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I'm not a big fan of cooking but I do it anyways. You don't have to go overboard, just steam some veggies, grill some fish on the George Foreman, put some dressing on fresh spinach or lettuce. I do not work due to health problems so I can't stand up for hours in the kitchen mincing garlic or whatever. I enjoy sitting down to a healthy dinner when my boyfriend comes home from work. He loves what I cook and does the dishes and we're happy. Yes, I'm also a dyed in the wool feminist!

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"I don't have time to cook because I prefer to shop, teehee"
Posted by: supercrisp on Feb 19, 2008 7:36 AM   
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Can someone give me a good reason why the hell we should give a damn what CitiBank is trying to sell us? I mean, it's just more credit card usage and doesn't have a squeak in a whirlwind to do with feminism. They're just one more company hoping that you're the consumer zomby they want you to be, no matter what you ferry around between your legs.

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Some People Cook Because They Love Cooking, They Love Their Partner, & They Love Their Families.
Posted by: grumble-bum on Feb 19, 2008 7:35 AM   
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One of the threads running through the article, as well as the comments, is that men have somehow "stolen" the role of cook in a relationship, or that women have "abdicated" it due to busy lifestyles or simple disdain.

In all of the relationships I've been involved with, I've been the cooking half of the equation. This isn't because (as that moron Kepstein777 proposes) I'm foolishly & ineptly trying to show off (although that's certainly happened). It isn't some sort of oblivious power-grab, either. I'm just really good at it.

Cooking is what I've done professionally for many years. It's something tangible I can do to demonstrate my care for the woman I'm with. As someone who doesn't make too much money (see above) & is only roughly average in bed, it's one of my major assets in a relationship. It doesn't excuse me from other chores around the domicile (although it does sometimes excuse me from the dishes), or from trying to be a good listener, or from working to keep my male ego in balance.

We certainly aren't only talking about showcase meals for entertaining, but the day-to-day "drag", as well. Yes, after a long shift in the professional kitchen, sometimes cooking a balanced meal is the last thing I want to do. That's why the other person needs to be able to do some cooking as well. Frankly, a woman who can only cook using the freezer & a microwave is about as appealing to me as a woman who can't tie her own shoes.

All people, regardless of gender, should be able to make basic, healthy food!

So far there have been no complaints, although my last girlfriend sometimes wanted to cook certain recipes from her own family. In those cases, I just sat back & watched. Pretty damn HOTT!

I was lucky to grow up in a family that ate most dinners together. My mom did the majority of the cooking, not because it was "women's work" but because she was better at it than my dad. Even though she wasn't the best cook in the world, & even though us kids weren't always grateful for particular dishes (I'll die a happy man if I never eat brown rice & stir-fry again), the love & care was evident. I don't know if it has something to do with quantum physics, magic, or what, but a meal made with quality ingredients, pride, care & love for the recipients (be they romantic partners, friends, offspring, or faceless restaurant customers) is one of the most wonderful & sustaining things one human being can do for another.

Cook on!

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Cooking is a woman's issue?
Posted by: timemachinist on Feb 19, 2008 7:37 AM   
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Once again we see Alternet promoting the genderization of an issue that affects all of society. Can't say I get the television allusions crowding this article, since I don't watch the boob tube to begin with. Nor do I get the Hollywood allusions, more bad fare as bad as anything in the frozen food section of the supermarket.

But I suspect the problems described in the article are more due to urbanization and consumerism, particularly the widespread obsession of men and women with overworking for money to buy more unneeded crap and consequently having no time to properly prepare fresh food.

As a man who enjoys cooking, I look forward to a woman who shares that joy. I'm sure I'll find her, though not in a big city full of feminist ladder-climbers who hate men and don't believe in romantic love.

Where oh where is my Patsy Cline?

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why must women be tied to the kitchen?
Posted by: da aman on Feb 19, 2008 7:46 AM   
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why is the kitchen soley the woman's responsibility?

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» TRADITION!! Posted by: BlueTigress
i'm womyn, and i cook
Posted by: SekhmetsatRa on Feb 19, 2008 8:00 AM   
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i'm a feminist, and i cook. i LOVE cooking. from simple to fancy, crockpot to grill, i love it. i don't have any "gadgets" except for a baster/injector, i ADORE. people who bitch cooking is hard just don't want to try. hell, i've even cooked for my pets, i like it so much. how can you NOT enjoy the smells of the spices, the feel of the veggies as you slice them, the coolness of the flesh as you prep it for roasting/baking/grilling/frying? society is screwed.

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» RE: i'm womyn, and i cook Posted by: MamaPantz
Feminism is about financial independence, not cooking
Posted by: Grandma Crabby on Feb 19, 2008 8:09 AM   
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Please allow an old lady (me) to educate you on what feminism is really all about.

It is about financial independence and having the capacity to get by on your own without NEEDING a man. (YOU might WANT one, but you don't NEED one to survive.)

Before feminism, women were only "allowed" to hold jobs like nurse or teacher which did not pay well and had no real status. Therefore, to survive, you needed a man. Add to that the idea that women "should" marry and "should" be happy taking care of the household and you have the pre-feminist world.

I married an abusive pig. (He was real sweet before we married then changed radically.) Luckily for me and my child, I had the ability to make a decent living on my own so I could dump the abusive pig. THAT is the benefit of feminism. It doesn't have anything to do with cooking. Since we have to eat, it only pays to learn to cook, whether one is male or female. Being FORCED to do virtually nothing but cook in order to take care of a man is what TRUE feminists find objectionable, not the act of cooking itself.

I swear, feminism has been SO DISTORTED over the years and people think it's about stupid crap like cooking or having sex. NO! It's about independence in the financial world. I consider myself a long time feminist but I also can cook better than most people and I love good, raunchy sex. The FEW, SELECT men I have relationships with think I am the best lay they ever had because I AM! And durn proud of it! But these men ALSO have to accept the fact that not only am I a sexy chef, I am smarter than them on many issues and I am physically stronger than them too. (sometimes) Now that boys and girls, is a true feminist.

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Coooking is what you pay people to do
Posted by: maddogmarley on Feb 19, 2008 8:57 AM   
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Cooking is pointless. I've probably fixed 10 real meals in the last 35 years. Unless one gets some weird personal satisfaction out of wasting a lot of time in the kitchen why bother? Whether you are a woman or a man, cooking is what you pay people to do for you.

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» RE: Coooking is what you pay people to do Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line
What About Being Too Tired to Cook?
Posted by: bettina9292 on Feb 19, 2008 9:05 AM   
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Since when do we listen to focus based credit card banking ads and judge them as true mirror reflections of our society? The truth about cooking meals in ones homes is more multifaceted and become just a grueling task that we want to enjoy but that we are just too beaten up to stand up and do it.
One, as a single and working in NYC I enjoyed and preferred eating out daily. Of course, no family, no mortgage. I also purchase $250 shoes then>>
Two, as a married, (NON-(working outside the home), mother I attempted to perfect my grandmother's fine dishes, plus perfect Culinary Institutes basics taken from the library yes "library" of cooking books. I even purchased and utilized my Viking professional oven and stocked my Sub zero fridge.I prided myself in becoming a "chef". Yes, this was an enormously time consuming affair. Plus, no one not my husband or my children really seemed to notice. I had lots of time to perfect many items, and even showcased them for various charities included Aids Benefits, where I made French dishes that I can't even remember for crowds of 75 persons.EEk, I can't even believe I did that!(stupid)
THREE, ok now I am 15 years past that point. I am working two artist careers and raising 2 teenagers and preparing and eating foods in my home much resembles this.....
Firstly, I am the "designated" cook. I think it is like this because I like to take care of my husband and kids and mostly like what I prepare the best, (of course), and don't want to give control up to my husband. I really do look forward to eating at night, just not the cooking. The problem is that I am physically beat and exhausted trying to make a living and take care of the other needs of my family.
Our kitchen is not the designer type. It is quite basic and economical but also cumbersome and small (no show casing here). The food I buy is local and organic, tying to keep carcinogens at bay and trying to keep the semis off the road. So this means that my groceries bills are enormous, ie 5.99 a gallon for organic milk vs 2.00! I have to travel to 3 different stores to accommodates of food "choices".My son is a pescatarian but he dislikes all tofu and many vegetables (ironic?). My daughter has some weight issues-so we are constantly trying to keep carbs and fats and (now sugar substitutes) out of our mouths. My husband is Japanese ,likes Japanese food items. I am fearful of corn syrup and any cottonseed. So, forget about preparing and cooking; what about the angst and fear one has in just picking out foods that won't poison us?? I spend an hour just reading food labels!
SO...bottom line by the time I work 10 hours a day, aid my children in their activities, go to the various farmers markets and specialty organic food sources and regular grocery stores (which I still have to go to because non of these "specialty stores" stock aluminum foil) (or if they do they charge an arm or leg for it!)I arrive home at 8:00ish ready to prepare??
Mostly, I look forward to my Friday night out
to dinner with my husband, so that I can relax(at a local restaurant that serves only organic fresh food). I confidence that I know I can actually cook the same food I am eating but without the accompanied stress of food purchase and preparation. But, I also have confidence that, I am doing best by the tribe that I take care of my attending to my family's overall health. If I thought about convenience and left this very all important task to The large frozen food companies and local fast food drive ups- I couldn't sleep at night. I enjoy it almost as much as listening to my kids and husband asking for seconds.
Maybe one day, I can purchase worry free without so much investigative work. I can work less hours to make ends meet and my entire love affair with cooking at the hearth return. But I will never give my loved ones Soilent Green, because the TV and print ads say to do so.

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Its not about cooking
Posted by: ohb0b on Feb 19, 2008 10:00 AM   
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It's about cleaning the kitchen, doing the laundry, vacuuming the floor, taking out the trash, scrubbing the bathroom, bathing the kids....

Cooking is just setting stuff on fire and making messes. Housework is indoor kudzu.

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