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Do Yearly Mammograms Save Women's Lives?
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EDITOR'S NOTE: Since this article was written, Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius has yielded to the uproar generated by new guidelines from the U.S. Preventative Services Task Force, and essentially urged women to ignore the committee's recommendations, and continue with their yearly mammograms, and monthly self-examinations.
The new recommendation from the U.S. Preventative Services Task Force that women under 50 should not undergo routine mammography is generating a lot of controversy -- it is a direct challenge to the strong message women have been receiving for two decades that they should have yearly screening starting at age 40. The task force also recommends that women age 50-74 have a mammogram every two years (rather than yearly) and finds that there is little benefit in screening women over 74 at all.
To the experts who have been questioning the benefits of mammography for several years, these recommendations are no surprise -- and they are welcome. The World Health Organization, and many European countries where the government pays for routine mammography screening, already follow these guidelines. But how is this news playing in Peoria?
The initial reaction from many health professionals, breast cancer survivors and advocates has been outrage and anger, with many insisting that women's health will be compromised if these recommendations are implemented. Still others see the new guidelines as evidence that the government is using comparative-effectiveness studies to justify rationing care. Leading this onslaught are some key members of the cancer establishment: The American Cancer Society, The American College of Radiology and the National Cancer Institute.
Dr. Otis W. Brawley, chief medical officer of the ACS, released this statement in response to the Preventative Task Force report: "As someone who has long been a critic of those overstating the benefits of screening, I use these words advisedly: this is one screening test I recommend unequivocally, and would recommend to any woman 40 and over, be she a patient, a stranger, or a family member."
Dr. Carol H. Lee, chair of the American College of Radiology Breast Imaging Commission, launched a blistering attack on the Preventative Services Task Force recommendations, calling them "unfounded" and "incredibly flawed," saying that, if adopted, they will "result in many needless deaths." Furthermore, says Lee, they "seem to reflect a conscious decision to ration care." Lee's organization, of course, has reason to worry about the long-term effects of this report; the American College of Radiology estimates that $3.3 billion was spent on mammograms in the last year alone.
In reality, the mission of the Preventative Services task force is to provide evidence-based recommendations and treatment guidelines for clinicians -- they are not charged with rationing care. Appointed by the Department of Health and Human Services, they are an independent group of 16 experts who specialize in prevention and primary care. True to their mission, the task force members were quite thorough in their research. According to the New York Times "in order to formulate its guidelines, the task force used new data from mammography studies in England and Sweden and also commissioned six groups to make statistical models to analyze the aggregate data."
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Posted by: Beadmaster on Nov 19, 2009 6:47 AM
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Why is Washington continually trying to whittle away at the tiniest bit of good insurers might do for women? The day I accept that this recommendation is a good idea is the day they decide to do a study that says Viagra is overused and not recommended to be covered by insurers or government programs. When impoverished women are discouraged from getting abortions, birth control and now diagnostic breast cancer tests, while Viagra is freely given to men who are on welfare, something is seriously wrong, especially when the assistance in making unwanted babies is generously given in the form of an expensive, totally unnecessary medication. Impotence may be difficult on a man, but it is not life threatening. Breast cancer is life threatening, particularly if not caught in time.
And then on top of that, oh, no, paying for mammograms for women of a certain age is "unnecessary." Yes, and don't bother examining your breasts, because statistically, you don't have to worry about it...we'll let it sneak up on you instead.
Really, they can get away with this crapola in Sweden and England, where women don't go without necessary health care. Because they get routine checkups from doctors. Nowhere do I see anything which says, along with this new recommendation, the recommendation is also for women to increase their visits to a gynecologist for that breast exam they're not encouraged to do anymore. If you're going to advocate denial of sound diagnostic tools to women who live in a country that routinely denies them the tiniest amount of health care, you're going to end up with a lot of dead women.
The only thing that would make this finding valid for the unique and lousy situation we enjoy in the US is if the government made it a law that all women can demand at least a once-yearly gynecological exam...for free...just like the way men on welfare can get free Viagra. This is the only thing that would put health care for women here the tiniest bit closer to the same level as countries like Sweden and England.
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Posted by: EncinoM on Nov 19, 2009 7:16 AM
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Those that argued that the healthcare reforms would lead to rationing, only have to point to this lastest report for evidence.
After reading the report and watching Sanjay Gupta interview one of the researchers, it seems as if authors were more concerned with the dollars and cents of mamograms than with the lives that they would save. The heade of the Health and Humans Services department has distanced themselves from this study.
How many women are going to die because health insurance companies have a new reason to deny coverage, and how many americans are going to die because oppenents of healthcare reform have a new arrow in their quiever?
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» Why be nasty?
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» RE: Why be nasty?
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» RE: Why be nasty?
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» The problem is that you think anyone disagreeing with you is automatically stupid.
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» RE: Why be nasty? Yeah, is the point you're making stronger with the use of "moron"?
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» RE: Why be nasty? Yeah, is the point you're making stronger with the use of "moron"?
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Posted by: plantland on Nov 19, 2009 7:51 AM
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High risk women- those with a famiy history (mother or sister who had alaready developed breast cancer) had their breast cancer rate cut by 59% even if they breast fed for as little as three months. ( Alison Steube,UNC Chapel Hill School of Medicine, Sept. '09 Archives of Internal Medicine)
Breastfeeding for several years is protective of a younger woman's not getting breast cancer - the ages for which the recommendations for routine mammograms are being revised. (Perhaps non high risk women rates are so much lower that the lengthier time breastfeeding was necessary to show up statistically, and that a shorter period also helps them avoid developing breast cancer.)
(After menopause, having breastfed a child no longer makes a difference in cancer rates.)
African American women have the highest breast cancer fatality rates in younger women, and the lowest breast feeding rates.
Beyond the message that breast feeding is good for your child, with fewer ear infections, and less lifelong asthma, and better school outcomes, it is good for the mother.
Society should help a woman choose breast feeding by financial help, since being able to care for the baby can be more important than even continuing at a job or getting some credits. We can actually save social secuity costs for the children of mothers who have passed away by emphasizing the critical importance of the best start in life that is possible.
My dream would be that this incentive is good for only two children!
Fewer children educated better, eating less but better food- living better during the economic contraction.
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Posted by: mountainmama on Nov 19, 2009 8:49 AM
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I am literally horrified and furious by this even being suggested. It must be a decision by a man.
In my case, had I not had a yearly mammogram, I'd not be writing this here right now!!! Even the surgeon and others on the team could not feel the lump because it was embedded so deep. It was ONLY by mammogram that it was found. I have been cancer free for over 5 years and my 2 daughters, who now get mamms every year because of me, and my 4 grandchildren still have a mother and grandmother! You don't want to know what I'd like to do to those bastards who suggest this!!
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» Nothing erases the fact that you implied it was unfortunate she had survived her illness.
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Posted by: drricklippin on Nov 19, 2009 10:22 AM
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This eroded trust will take decades to rebuild- if ever?
Dr. Rick Lippin
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Posted by: saywhat on Nov 19, 2009 11:18 AM
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You can be cancer free.
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Posted by: saywhat on Nov 19, 2009 1:18 PM
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Sadam has weapons of mass destruction.
Get your Swine Flu, H1N1 shot.
RESEARCH that shot. Find out what is in it. Find out about what the side effects are. The outrage and propaganda against anyone who is not for the H1N1 shot is so strong now, I don’t feel I can tell you the answers.
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Now for some FACTS and not emotion about mammograms.
John Gofman, MD ph>D. a nuclear physicist and a medical doctor, and one of the leading experts in the world on the dangers of radiation. Presents compelling evidence in his book Radiation from Medical Procedures int he Pathogenesis of Cancer and Ischemic Heart Disease that over 50% of the death rate from cancer is in fact induced by x-rays. How Mammography increase your cancer risk.
x-rays and other classes of ionizing radiation have been for decades a proven cause of biological mutations. When such mutations are not cell-lethal, they endure and accumulate with each additional exposure to x-rays or other ionizing radiation. X-rays are also an extablished cause of genomic instability, often a characteristic of the most agressive cancers. Radiation risks are about four times greater for the 1-2 percent of women who are silent carriers oa the A-T gene which by some estimates accounts for up to 20% of all breast cancer diagnosed annually. When everything is taken into account reducing exposure to medical radiation such as unnecessary mammograms would acutually reduce mortality rates.
Women should remember this is a highly emotional issue, and they should take the time to find out the facts before assuming this is some type of government conspiracy.
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Posted by: Beadmaster on Nov 19, 2009 6:47 AM
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Why is Washington continually trying to whittle away at the tiniest bit of good insurers might do for women? The day I accept that this recommendation is a good idea is the day they decide to do a study that says Viagra is overused and not recommended to be covered by insurers or government programs. When impoverished women are discouraged from getting abortions, birth control and now diagnostic breast cancer tests, while Viagra is freely given to men who are on welfare, something is seriously wrong, especially when the assistance in making unwanted babies is generously given in the form of an expensive, totally unnecessary medication. Impotence may be difficult on a man, but it is not life threatening. Breast cancer is life threatening, particularly if not caught in time.
And then on top of that, oh, no, paying for mammograms for women of a certain age is "unnecessary." Yes, and don't bother examining your breasts, because statistically, you don't have to worry about it...we'll let it sneak up on you instead.
Really, they can get away with this crapola in Sweden and England, where women don't go without necessary health care. Because they get routine checkups from doctors. Nowhere do I see anything which says, along with this new recommendation, the recommendation is also for women to increase their visits to a gynecologist for that breast exam they're not encouraged to do anymore. If you're going to advocate denial of sound diagnostic tools to women who live in a country that routinely denies them the tiniest amount of health care, you're going to end up with a lot of dead women.
The only thing that would make this finding valid for the unique and lousy situation we enjoy in the US is if the government made it a law that all women can demand at least a once-yearly gynecological exam...for free...just like the way men on welfare can get free Viagra. This is the only thing that would put health care for women here the tiniest bit closer to the same level as countries like Sweden and England.
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Posted by: EncinoM on Nov 19, 2009 7:16 AM
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Those that argued that the healthcare reforms would lead to rationing, only have to point to this lastest report for evidence.
After reading the report and watching Sanjay Gupta interview one of the researchers, it seems as if authors were more concerned with the dollars and cents of mamograms than with the lives that they would save. The heade of the Health and Humans Services department has distanced themselves from this study.
How many women are going to die because health insurance companies have a new reason to deny coverage, and how many americans are going to die because oppenents of healthcare reform have a new arrow in their quiever?
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» RE: I want to know who appointed these researchers
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» RE: I want to know who appointed these researchers
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» RE: I want to know who appointed these researchers
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» RE: I want to know who appointed these researchers
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» RE: I want to know who appointed these researchers
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» RE: I want to know who appointed these researchers
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» RE: I want to know who appointed these researchers
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» Why be nasty?
Posted by: plantland
» RE: Why be nasty?
Posted by: bornxeyed
» RE: Why be nasty?
Posted by: Beck
» RE: Why be nasty?
Posted by: bornxeyed
» The problem is that you think anyone disagreeing with you is automatically stupid.
Posted by: mjabele
» RE: Why be nasty? Yeah, is the point you're making stronger with the use of "moron"?
Posted by: Beck
» RE: Why be nasty? Yeah, is the point you're making stronger with the use of "moron"?
Posted by: bornxeyed
» RE: Why be nasty? Yeah, is the point you're making stronger with the use of "moron"?
Posted by: mountainmama
» RE: I want to know who appointed these researchers
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Posted by: plantland on Nov 19, 2009 7:51 AM
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High risk women- those with a famiy history (mother or sister who had alaready developed breast cancer) had their breast cancer rate cut by 59% even if they breast fed for as little as three months. ( Alison Steube,UNC Chapel Hill School of Medicine, Sept. '09 Archives of Internal Medicine)
Breastfeeding for several years is protective of a younger woman's not getting breast cancer - the ages for which the recommendations for routine mammograms are being revised. (Perhaps non high risk women rates are so much lower that the lengthier time breastfeeding was necessary to show up statistically, and that a shorter period also helps them avoid developing breast cancer.)
(After menopause, having breastfed a child no longer makes a difference in cancer rates.)
African American women have the highest breast cancer fatality rates in younger women, and the lowest breast feeding rates.
Beyond the message that breast feeding is good for your child, with fewer ear infections, and less lifelong asthma, and better school outcomes, it is good for the mother.
Society should help a woman choose breast feeding by financial help, since being able to care for the baby can be more important than even continuing at a job or getting some credits. We can actually save social secuity costs for the children of mothers who have passed away by emphasizing the critical importance of the best start in life that is possible.
My dream would be that this incentive is good for only two children!
Fewer children educated better, eating less but better food- living better during the economic contraction.
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Posted by: mountainmama on Nov 19, 2009 8:49 AM
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I am literally horrified and furious by this even being suggested. It must be a decision by a man.
In my case, had I not had a yearly mammogram, I'd not be writing this here right now!!! Even the surgeon and others on the team could not feel the lump because it was embedded so deep. It was ONLY by mammogram that it was found. I have been cancer free for over 5 years and my 2 daughters, who now get mamms every year because of me, and my 4 grandchildren still have a mother and grandmother! You don't want to know what I'd like to do to those bastards who suggest this!!
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» RE: Horrified! Holy shit, you are losing control and any class you ever had.
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» RE: Horrified! Holy shit, you are losing control and any class you ever had.
Posted by: mountainmama
» Nothing erases the fact that you implied it was unfortunate she had survived her illness.
Posted by: mjabele
» RE: Horrified!
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» P.S.
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Posted by: drricklippin on Nov 19, 2009 10:22 AM
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This eroded trust will take decades to rebuild- if ever?
Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
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Posted by: saywhat on Nov 19, 2009 11:18 AM
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You can be cancer free.
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Posted by: saywhat on Nov 19, 2009 1:18 PM
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Sadam has weapons of mass destruction.
Get your Swine Flu, H1N1 shot.
RESEARCH that shot. Find out what is in it. Find out about what the side effects are. The outrage and propaganda against anyone who is not for the H1N1 shot is so strong now, I don’t feel I can tell you the answers.
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Posted by: mycuz on Dec 8, 2009 12:01 PM
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Now for some FACTS and not emotion about mammograms.
John Gofman, MD ph>D. a nuclear physicist and a medical doctor, and one of the leading experts in the world on the dangers of radiation. Presents compelling evidence in his book Radiation from Medical Procedures int he Pathogenesis of Cancer and Ischemic Heart Disease that over 50% of the death rate from cancer is in fact induced by x-rays. How Mammography increase your cancer risk.
x-rays and other classes of ionizing radiation have been for decades a proven cause of biological mutations. When such mutations are not cell-lethal, they endure and accumulate with each additional exposure to x-rays or other ionizing radiation. X-rays are also an extablished cause of genomic instability, often a characteristic of the most agressive cancers. Radiation risks are about four times greater for the 1-2 percent of women who are silent carriers oa the A-T gene which by some estimates accounts for up to 20% of all breast cancer diagnosed annually. When everything is taken into account reducing exposure to medical radiation such as unnecessary mammograms would acutually reduce mortality rates.
Women should remember this is a highly emotional issue, and they should take the time to find out the facts before assuming this is some type of government conspiracy.
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