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Right-Wing Militias Are Resurging -- Will They Produce More Terrorists Like Timothy McVeigh?
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We need to beware of the right-wing militia movement in America. It poses a danger to our democracy. And shamefully, it is fueled by a few mainstream politicians and media personalities.
After a decade out of the spotlight, the militant rightwing “Patriot” movement — which was responsible for such murderous terrorist acts as the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that claimed 168 lives and injured 500 — is on the rise.
And according to a new report from the Southern Poverty Law Center, this violent coalition of groups is united in their hatred of the government, and of the first black president.
The newly minted report, “The Second Wave: Return of the Militias,” warns that authorities are worried about the acceleration in violent acts by radical right groups.
“Militiamen, white supremacists, anti-Semites, nativists, tax protesters and a range of other activists of the radical right are cross-pollinating and may even be coalescing,” says the report. “This is the most significant growth we’ve seen in 10 to 12 years,” according to one source in the report. “All it’s lacking is a spark. I think it’s only a matter of time before you see threats and violence.”
As many as 50 new militia training groups have formed in two years. Shockingly, one of the groups, the Oath Keepers, consists of current and ex-soldiers and police officers. Its members are concerned about a coming dictatorship, concentration camps and a “New World Order.” And they regard President Obama as “an enemy of the state.”
Meanwhile, sales of guns and ammunition have increased over fears of gun control laws.
The Southern Poverty Law Center notes that in recent months, men with pro-militia, racist, anti-government or anti-Semitic sentiments have committed acts of murder — including the murder of six police officers since April. And a majority of the killers and conspirators were at least partially motivated by the election of Obama.
It’s astonishing that mainstream politicians and media outlets have stoked the fires of militia extremism. This is both irresponsible and dangerous, and will only lead to acts of violence. They have legitimized the hateful and racist propaganda of the Patriot groups, including the outrageous claim that the president is not a U.S. citizen, and that he presides over a fascist-socialist government.
Glenn Beck of Fox News has called Obama a Marxist and a racist who hates white people. And he has linked the Obama administration with fascism. CNN’s Lou Dobbs has opened the door for questioning Obama’s citizenship, and has legitimized the conspiracy theories about Latinos wanting to conquer the Southwest.
Rep. Michele Bachmann, R-Minn., suggested that the president was planning reeducation camps for young people. Rep. Spencer Bachus, R-Ala., channeling Joe McCarthy, warned that there are 17 “socialists” in Congress. And Texas Gov. Rick Perry echoed militia talk when he suggested Texas secede from the Union.
These militia sentiments were on full display at the anti-tax tea party protests, and they have continued at the health care town hall meetings, along with death threats against members of Congress. Some protestors have come to presidential events strapped with pistols and armed with semiautomatic assault rifles, creating conditions that are ripe for violence.
We can’t ignore the threat of homegrown domestic terrorism. The far right militia groups are profoundly undemocratic. We underestimate them at our peril.
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Posted by: GerryAttric on Aug 25, 2009 12:46 AM
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Like I said the other day FUCKING IDIOTS!!!!! What an incredibly sick broken piece of shit country the US has become.
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Posted by: tjg1984 on Aug 25, 2009 5:28 AM
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Seriously, though, why are you picking on the Oath Keepers? Because they're concerned about a coming dictatorship that might not ever exist? What do they do that is actually wrong by saying they won't put Americans into camps or whatever? And don't tell me nobody on the left believes in conspiracy theories.
Also, why pick on the millions of Americans who are buying more guns in response to the threat of gun control, for which many members of the current administration have voiced their support? Most legal gun owners never harm anybody with their guns.
Obama almost certainly is a citizen, though he could shut most of the "birthers" up very quickly if he allowed the release of his birth certificate. Truthfully, though, I care about his policies more than his citizenship.
Finally, "semiautomatic assault rifle" is an oxymoron, as the commonly-accepted definition requires that an assault rifle be capable of fully-automatic fire. Also, "semiautomatic assault weapon" is a political term manufactured to justify banning weapons that look like actual assault rifles, or that just look scary to some people.
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» You use the term "Patriot Movement"
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There is no need to worry about the militias. They are simply citizens exercising their rights. If the government is as corrupt as their members believe it to be, then the government will destroy them, and they will die as martyrs. If the government is not so corrupt, then nothing will come of this movement.
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What I think the Obamunists don’t realize is that this is Mr. and Mrs. Middle America saying, “We don’t want your socialist healthcare plan” “We don’t want your bail out’s or your stimulus plan.” “We want our Constitutional republic back and you have just about pushed us to the point of resolution by force of arms.”
And remember those Oathkeepers I mentioned? They’re on our side.
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Do we suspend the 1st and 2nd Amendments? Do we let the government regulate the internet, as some of the commenters have suggested?
That will only confirm their fears that our Constitution and Bill of Rights are being shredded (complaints many of these "Patriots" brought against Bush, too, if you study their rhetoric). It will galvanize their organizations. It will also bring more people to their organizations as the government brings the hammer down. Think about how every iron-footed move of Bush only emboldened his enemies and made the situation worse.
Do we send in FBI spies? You'd be surprised how many of the people in these groups are already FBI spies...
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Look - a. You lost.
b. Obama won in a landslide.
c. We tried it your way for 8 years. It
was a catastrophe.
d. Ignorance is no longer in vogue.
e. You're making fools of yourselves. And, f. If you really loved this country,
you'd STFU.
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Like I said the other day FUCKING IDIOTS!!!!! What an incredibly sick broken piece of shit country the US has become.
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Posted by: tjg1984 on Aug 25, 2009 5:28 AM
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Seriously, though, why are you picking on the Oath Keepers? Because they're concerned about a coming dictatorship that might not ever exist? What do they do that is actually wrong by saying they won't put Americans into camps or whatever? And don't tell me nobody on the left believes in conspiracy theories.
Also, why pick on the millions of Americans who are buying more guns in response to the threat of gun control, for which many members of the current administration have voiced their support? Most legal gun owners never harm anybody with their guns.
Obama almost certainly is a citizen, though he could shut most of the "birthers" up very quickly if he allowed the release of his birth certificate. Truthfully, though, I care about his policies more than his citizenship.
Finally, "semiautomatic assault rifle" is an oxymoron, as the commonly-accepted definition requires that an assault rifle be capable of fully-automatic fire. Also, "semiautomatic assault weapon" is a political term manufactured to justify banning weapons that look like actual assault rifles, or that just look scary to some people.
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» You use the term "Patriot Movement"
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» Yep, still America, still calling them as we see them.
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There is no need to worry about the militias. They are simply citizens exercising their rights. If the government is as corrupt as their members believe it to be, then the government will destroy them, and they will die as martyrs. If the government is not so corrupt, then nothing will come of this movement.
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» Behold some classical disinformation techniques
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» So I take it
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Posted by: Treo on Aug 25, 2009 10:11 PM
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What I think the Obamunists don’t realize is that this is Mr. and Mrs. Middle America saying, “We don’t want your socialist healthcare plan” “We don’t want your bail out’s or your stimulus plan.” “We want our Constitutional republic back and you have just about pushed us to the point of resolution by force of arms.”
And remember those Oathkeepers I mentioned? They’re on our side.
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Posted by: pomes on Aug 26, 2009 12:04 PM
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Do we suspend the 1st and 2nd Amendments? Do we let the government regulate the internet, as some of the commenters have suggested?
That will only confirm their fears that our Constitution and Bill of Rights are being shredded (complaints many of these "Patriots" brought against Bush, too, if you study their rhetoric). It will galvanize their organizations. It will also bring more people to their organizations as the government brings the hammer down. Think about how every iron-footed move of Bush only emboldened his enemies and made the situation worse.
Do we send in FBI spies? You'd be surprised how many of the people in these groups are already FBI spies...
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Look - a. You lost.
b. Obama won in a landslide.
c. We tried it your way for 8 years. It
was a catastrophe.
d. Ignorance is no longer in vogue.
e. You're making fools of yourselves. And, f. If you really loved this country,
you'd STFU.
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