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How Women Can Bleed Green
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Hello ladies.
Would you consider reusable menstrual items?
Please stay with me.
I do not sell these items, nor am I connected to the companies that make them. I'm a mom who's been cloth-diapering her baby for six months, to save money, my son's health and the environment. Only recently did I realize that while I've been feeling ecologically virtuous, I've also been throwing out tampons and pads every month for more than 20 years of my life, and have another 20-plus years to do so.
I did some research and was appalled. I claim, like most people, to be concerned about the desperate state of the planet, yet I never challenged the disposable monolith we live in. A sampling:
There are 85 million women of menstruating age in North America. Conservative estimates are that the average woman disposes of between 10,000 and 15,000 tampons, pads and applicators in her lifetime1. That's about 250 to 300 pounds of waste per woman.
In 1999, about 2.5 million tampons, 1.4 million pads, and 700,000 pantiliners were flushed away daily2.
Waste consultant Franklin Associates reports that 13.5 billion pads and 6.5 billion tampons, plus their packaging, ended up in landfills or sewage systems in 19983. In the United States and Canada alone, more than 12 billion pads and tampons are tossed annually4.
Disposable pads are made with polyethylene plastic. Producing polyethylene contributes to global warming and depletes the ozone, while emitting sulfur and nitrogen oxides, which add to acidification5.
According to the Center for Marine Conservation, more than 170,000 tampon applicators were collected along U.S. coastal areas between 1998 and 19996. The Ocean Conservancy collected and cataloged debris along U.S. coastlines between 2001 and 2006, finding that tampon applicators made up 2.2 percent of the total debris field, more than syringes, condoms and plastic six-pack rings combined7.
Most women are not aware that safe, ecologically sound, lower-priced alternatives exist. We have been conditioned since childhood by slick commercials for disposable products. The companies that make reusable products don't have the revenue from massive repeat sales, like tampon and pad companies do, to advertise on television and in major print outlets. Word of mouth is vital.
Most obvious among "green" alternatives are washable cloth pads and pantiliners. These are not your grandmother's cloth pads. Today they're available on the Internet and come in a wide variety of funky patterns and materials, from hemp to organic French terry cotton to microfleece.
Washing cloth pads is actually easy -- after rinsing and soaking them in a container of cold water with a secure lid, you can run them through the laundry and machine or line-dry them. Done.
If you are out or at work, you can store the used pads in a "wet" bag and soak them when you get home.
A few other useful sites are www.lunapads.com, www.gladrags.com and www.greenyour.com.
Then there is the menstrual cup. A flexible bell shape, it's made of medical-grade silicone that softens with body heat--the same material used for heart valves--or latex. It is worn low in the vagina, just beyond the opening. When inserted properly, you can't feel it. It is physically impossible for it to get "lost" inside.
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Posted by: autumneve on Jan 26, 2009 1:23 AM
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Posted by: Alsu on Jan 26, 2009 2:55 AM
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» RE: Sounds reasonable, but...
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» RE: Sounds reasonable, but...
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» thanks, veggiegirl
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» That won't be until you've stopped menstruating
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» actually, yes, i am tired of getting my period...
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Posted by: lisanne on Jan 26, 2009 3:24 AM
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Posted by: vegetara on Jan 26, 2009 3:28 AM
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I encourage every woman to give it a try.
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Posted by: Blink on Jan 26, 2009 3:36 AM
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» RE: why are you so angry about this?
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» You are angry about this, aren't you?
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» Oh, just LISTEN to the women..
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Posted by: 2crazykids on Jan 26, 2009 4:06 AM
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» RE: had the DIVA cup for 2 years now!
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Posted by: melusine on Jan 26, 2009 4:20 AM
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» RE: nothing wrong with plain old rags
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» RE: nothing wrong with plain old rags NO THANK YOU, NO RAGS, BAGS, NO CUPS, USE PADS PLEASE,!
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Posted by: deborama on Jan 26, 2009 4:33 AM
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Posted by: ellie on Jan 26, 2009 5:14 AM
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for each woman who has closed up shop, why do docs insist on only a tubal when the uterus is only going to go along for the ride and bleed till menopause... sister wanted to have a partial instead of the tubal for these reasons and she was refused... why the uterus worship anyway??? it's the ovaries that count!!!
menstruation should only be for those that want to continue bearing children, not for those that are finished... think of the freedom and $$ saved from not having to support some form of 'devices'...
ps... love it when docs ask me the date of my last period and I look them in the eye and say '1979', age 27...
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» to all the responders, guess I wasn't clear enough...
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» My understanding is that your body does react to the hormonal changes
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» agree 100%
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Posted by: sdskyle on Jan 26, 2009 5:19 AM
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I am all for these cups, though. As a lifeguard who's had to clean those boxes in the women's restrooms, a bit less waste is nice. Women go through LOTS of these things and it contributes to serious amounts of waste. :(
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Posted by: 2dogarage on Jan 26, 2009 7:49 AM
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» RE: Bandannas work great
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Posted by: wolfgangmo on Jan 26, 2009 8:28 AM
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Warm wash and cold rinse. Stick em in the dryer with the dryer balls and voila. Clean.
If you are squeamish you owe it to yourself to give them a try. Our co-op carries them and most stores can bring them in depending on their distributor. I just googled them and there are 1000's of hits.
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Posted by: kltkwmn on Jan 26, 2009 9:24 AM
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» RE: I used them for 20 years
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Posted by: stopthemaddness2 on Jan 26, 2009 10:41 AM
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This is cat.shit.crazy!
Never in a Million years, you guys have gone way off the planet on this one.
Nasty, Unsanitary, which is why they are called sanitary napkins, come the hello on!!!!
Green it in other areas, but leave this alone. Not every thing needs to be cut loose for the price of being GREEN. THIS IS DAM DUMB STUPID!!!
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» RE: NEVER, NO, NADA, NEVER, LET'S NOT GET STUPID GIRLS, THIS IS UNSANITY AND RIDICULOUS, HELL NO!!!!
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Posted by: stopthemaddness2 on Jan 26, 2009 10:44 AM
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NOT EVEN IF YOU PAID ME
CAT.SHIT.CRAZY IDEA!! AND A CUP, COME ON!!!
SOUNDS LIKE SOMEBODY HAS DONE TOO MUCH METH, COKE, OR CRACK TO ME!!!
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» RE: HELL NO, NOT IF THEY PAID ME... UNSANITARY AND DUMB AS HELL!!
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» RE: HELL NO, NOT IF THEY PAID ME... UNSANITARY AND DUMB AS HELL!!
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Posted by: aronblue on Jan 26, 2009 11:03 AM
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» RE: and you never run out
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Posted by: callliope on Jan 26, 2009 11:29 AM
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Posted by: asmb on Jan 26, 2009 11:35 AM
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Besides, we ALL get familiar with menstrual blood one way or another, so what's the big deal about a cup or a washable pad?
Personally, I'm glad that I have no responsibility in the choking deaths of marine life, since I'm not responsible for any plastic waste - which floats & which animals mistake for food.
Besides, using a cup is a LOT cheaper.
Good luck!
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Posted by: harpy on Jan 26, 2009 11:44 AM
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» You need more practice!
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» Learning curve? How snarky!
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» it takes about 3 months to get used to them! but then they rock!
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» Your period must not really be heavy at all
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» RE: eusable cups not an option!
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» Just wait till the little "pull" tab breaks off!
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» RE: eusable cups not an option! YOU GUYS ARE CAT SHIT CRAZY TO CONSIDER CUPS AND RAGS! GOOD GRIEF!
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Posted by: callliope on Jan 26, 2009 11:51 AM
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Not only is it safer for your personal health and the health of the environment, more convenient because you never need to worry about where and when you're going to buy tampons or pads, but you save a ton of money! It's only logical, so when will everyone get on board with the obvious?
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Posted by: pintsizeddame on Jan 26, 2009 11:53 AM
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Sadly, feminine hygiene is a money making business. Companies like tampax, maxi, always, and kotex will never encourage women to choose products that are healthy and cost effective. Their sales depend on controlling the way women think of their period. Convince millions of women that disposable menstrual products are the only socially acceptable way to manage your cycle and you’ll make millions. Convince millions of women that their natural cycle is shameful and oppressive and you’ll make billions.
That goes without mentioning the health risks associated with tampons. Everyone knows about TSS, but hardly anyone considers the pesticides and fertilizers used in the production of cotton. That very same chemically soaked cotton is bleached white so it appears clean, then we put that bleached chemically soaked cotton tampon in our vagina so our vagina can dry out. If we’re going to switch to organic food to be kind to our body we should also consider being kind to our vagina.
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Posted by: undrgrndgirl on Jan 26, 2009 11:56 AM
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to those discussing tubal ligation and hysterectomy - surgical sterilization is difficult to get because of old concerns about eugenics (in the state of california thousands of women - especially minority women - were sterilized with out their consent or knowledge); doctors are reluctant to sterilize anyone (male or female) under the age of 30 or who does not already have at least 2 children (this used to be spelled out in the sterilization consent form used in california)...in part for fear of being sued later by someone who has changed their mind and again in part because of eugenic concerns.
hysterectomy is not considered birth control and is usually only performed for other medical concerns such as excessive bleeding, fibroids, cancer, etc...and such surgery should never be taken lightly - there are, as with any surgery legitimate risks of infection and even death.
to the woman above who is looking into ways to not have a period - good luck finding a reputable surgeon who will perform a hysterectomy or oophorectomy without another medical condition requiring it...the only other thing that *might* work is taking continuous birth control pills...
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Posted by: HooksHero on Jan 26, 2009 1:16 PM
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Heavy, for me, was having to use an "overnight" pad and a "super" tampon and still feeling nervous about leaks. I admit I was fearful of natural products because I didn't think they could handle the task of keeping up with my flow.
If I still had a uterus and ovaries I would now be convinced to give them a shot, especially with the amount of products I had to use. (I have my own person opinions on whether or not the radical hysterectomy, which started as a myomectomy, was entirely necessary.)
I volunteer at a women's clinic and would love to be able to tell women who have unusually heavy periods about ecologically and medically sound options. Any opinions from users of these products or good websites to direct people to?
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Posted by: spiralwriter on Jan 26, 2009 3:26 PM
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I've been using the washable pads since 1993, cups since 2003, and sea sponges from time to time for about a year, and I've yet to have anything wear out. Besides saving a fortune and not throwing so much away each month, I've had a lot LESS trouble with yeast infections and such since I made the switch. On the rare occasions I've been caught out without my own supplies, the typical disposable pads are so uncomfortable that I'm sure that irritation led to problems in the past, at least for me. For the record, I do have a pretty heavy flow, especially now that I'm moving into perimenopause. I just change things out once more per day than I did in my 20s, no big deal. The cup or sponges make things like running or cycling a thousand times more comfortable as well without the horrible over-drying that can come with a tampon, not to mention the very real risks from the materials they're made with.
Thanks for putting this information out there! I think taking responsibility for our own bodies and losing the phobia will do a whole lot more good than just cutting down on the burden to landfills.
Peace.
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Posted by: jparsons on Jan 26, 2009 3:33 PM
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and I've never had any major problems with it.
I can understand not everybody likes the idea, but
let's keep an open forum of discussion for those who
haven't already considered it.
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Posted by: Weatherwax on Jan 26, 2009 3:56 PM
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Posted by: paganpat on Jan 26, 2009 6:55 PM
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Posted by: areader on Jan 26, 2009 7:44 PM
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» RE: eusables are easy to care for and comfortable
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Posted by: PurpleLove08 on Jan 26, 2009 8:09 PM
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I would recommend ordering from www.saucytots.com
Go to Mimi's Dreams and you will find AFFORDABLE and CUTE reusable cloth pads. I absolutely love them.
Vajpads.com isn't bad either and you can also find some good "reusable cloth pads" on etsy.com. Best of luck!
I am so glad I found out about cloth pads months ago.
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Posted by: Ghoulman on Jan 26, 2009 8:12 PM
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hellooo? Is this thing on???
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» RE: How Women Can Bleed Green? EXACTLY, THEY HAVE LOST THEIR MIND OR ARE ON METH I GUESS
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» RE: How Women Can Bleed Green? EXACTLY, THEY HAVE LOST THEIR MIND OR ARE ON METH I GUESS
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» You deserve a 10 for that one!
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Posted by: carriedoodle on Jan 27, 2009 10:31 AM
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i love saving money as well as not putting any of their dirty plastics (rayon) that can tear my vagina inside of my body! and for times when i must use a tampon, i only use 100% organic cotton! also, tampons are considered medical devices, but they are not as sanitary as sanitary products- think about that!
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Posted by: littlepitcher on Jan 27, 2009 11:22 AM
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You can squeeze them out with TP or clean a cup with it, if you have ghastly co-workers or don't want to find out if you do.
Never had an infection from them, but I never was much of a sugar binger so yeast was not a problem. I would advise against storing any spares in a mildew-prone location.
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Posted by: Julia Schopick on Jan 27, 2009 4:42 PM
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I am so glad you wrote this piece. It’s terrific. As you correctly stated, the makers of these alternative (reusable) menstrual products don’t have the budgets to compete with the manufacturers of the disposables. So we rely on word of mouth -- and word of Internet -- to tell the story.
The numbers you give are accurate: the average woman disposes of between 10,000 and 15,000 tampons, pads and applicators in her lifetime, which is about 250 to 300 pounds of waste per woman. And yes, in the United States and Canada alone, more than 12 billion pads and tampons are tossed annually.
All true.
But, these numbers are just too HUGE. Most women cannot actually PICTURE this amount of waste!
So, The Keeper, Inc., manufacturer of The Keeper, has posted actual photos, SHOWING the amount of waste one woman creates by using and tossing tampons into the environment in 1 month, 1 year, 10 years -- and in her menstruating lifetime (approximately 40 years). (HINT: We had to use a DUMP TRUCK to show one woman’s lifetime use!)
Please take a look at these Comparison Photos, and I know you’ll agree that these 4 photos are worth at least TEN THOUSAND WORDS!
http://www.keeper.com/photographs.html
One you see these comparison photos, you won’t ever think about disposable menstrual products the same way again!
Julia Schopick
www.Keeper.com
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Posted by: jodytish on Jan 27, 2009 6:15 PM
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It does take a little bit to get used to, but so does a tampon at first!
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Posted by: stopthemaddness2 on Jan 27, 2009 8:14 PM
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REALLY, THIS TALK ABOUT RAGS, CUPS, AND SPONGES, IS AS STUPID AS A URINE STAINED BOX OF ROCKS!
NASTY AND UNSANITARY, AND STUPID AS HELL!!!
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» RE: NO RAGS, BAGS, OR CUPS, STOP THE STUCK ON STUPID GIRLS!!! SANITARY PADS OR TAMP ON THE TAMPONS !!!
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Posted by: stopthemaddness2 on Jan 27, 2009 8:20 PM
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Posted by: Dr O on Jan 28, 2009 10:39 AM
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For those who are repulsed by this idea and believe that this is a return to the dark ages... I would suggest to you that your beliefs about how "disgusting" and "unclean" this is is a carry over from the dark ages when menstruating women were separated and thought of as "dirty" and needing to be secluded. Whether you realize it or not... you are still being influenced by outdated and unhealthy views about the most natural functions of a woman's body that should be marveled and celebrated! If it weren't for menstrual blood NONE of us would be here!
For those who are insistent on using tampons and pads... I would invite you to do some research into the correlations between dioxin (a highly carcinogenic chemical used to bleach paper products... including feminine hygiene products) and illnesses such as endometriosis, uterine fibroid tumors, infertility, miscarriage and the estrogen dominance which is associated with these conditions.
For those who claim that products such as the menstrual cup would be unrealistic due to heavy flows and clotting... and have been told by their physicians that either of these are normal... THEY MOST DEFINITELY ARE NOT! Heavy menstrual flow, clotting and pain associated with the menstrual cycle are all signs of imbalance &/or toxicity in the body... and very often indications of an undiagnosed dis-ease process... either hormonal imbalance or conditions such as endometriosis or uterine fibroids. (I know this personally as I nearly bled to death... literally... because I spent years going from doctor to doctor who told me that this was "normal" only to finally discover that I had ALL of the conditions I've mentioned when I wound up hemorrhaging and in the ER! Once successfully addressed... my cycles were normalized and ONLY last 3-4 days... rather than up to two weeks... with a LIGHT flow, NO clotting and NO discomfort! I suffered with this NEEDLESSLY for over 30 years of my life!)
For those that suggest that the answer is to have an elective hysterectomy... ARE YOU NUTS?! The uterus is MUCH more than a baby making factory! Anatomically it also keeps other internal organs in their right place and removal of the uterus is correlated with bladder leakage and incontinence later in life. Additionally... the removal of the uterus is also associated with less sexual satisfaction due to reduced intensity of the orgasmic response. Nature knew what she was doing and a woman's body is an amazing thing!
I would invite all of you to carefully review your beliefs about what it means to be a woman... about your body... and also to question EVERYTHING that your physicians are telling you! Doctors and researchers have been making a bloody FORTUNE off of the natural functions of women's bodies... turning menopause and pre-menstrual sensitivity into illnesses that require pharmaceutical intervention so they can profit off of their brainwashing tactics! Their drugs are poisons... their surgical procedures are barbaric... and women's bodies have become a battlefield for Big Pharma and Medical Mafia doctors!
Reclaim your power as a woman... learn about the marvels of your body and how to take care of it yourself! Take responsibility for your OWN health and well-being AND the environment! There is VERY MUCH a connection between the manner in which women and the Earth are viewed and treated in a patriarchal society! Women need to STOP buying into the religious and cultural conditioning that hurts them and the planet!
All the best to you ~ Dr. O
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Posted by: jenviets on Jan 28, 2009 2:43 PM
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if you feel it disgusting or dirty then you have been successfully brainwashed by the patriarchal media
We women must reclaim this monthly ritual, honor it, love it, nuture it
feed your blood to your garden, your plants will thrive and mother earth will rejoice. This is our connection to the goddess, to each other and all creation. let us NOT waste it down the drain or into our over crowded landfills. Thank you for this article, now lets create a movement.
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Posted by: autumneve on Jan 26, 2009 1:23 AM
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Posted by: Alsu on Jan 26, 2009 2:55 AM
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» thanks, veggiegirl
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» That won't be until you've stopped menstruating
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» actually, yes, i am tired of getting my period...
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Posted by: lisanne on Jan 26, 2009 3:24 AM
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Posted by: vegetara on Jan 26, 2009 3:28 AM
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I encourage every woman to give it a try.
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» You are angry about this, aren't you?
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» Oh, just LISTEN to the women..
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» I'd just like to point out...
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Posted by: 2crazykids on Jan 26, 2009 4:06 AM
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» RE: nothing wrong with plain old rags NO THANK YOU, NO RAGS, BAGS, NO CUPS, USE PADS PLEASE,!
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Posted by: ellie on Jan 26, 2009 5:14 AM
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for each woman who has closed up shop, why do docs insist on only a tubal when the uterus is only going to go along for the ride and bleed till menopause... sister wanted to have a partial instead of the tubal for these reasons and she was refused... why the uterus worship anyway??? it's the ovaries that count!!!
menstruation should only be for those that want to continue bearing children, not for those that are finished... think of the freedom and $$ saved from not having to support some form of 'devices'...
ps... love it when docs ask me the date of my last period and I look them in the eye and say '1979', age 27...
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» to all the responders, guess I wasn't clear enough...
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» My understanding is that your body does react to the hormonal changes
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Posted by: sdskyle on Jan 26, 2009 5:19 AM
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I am all for these cups, though. As a lifeguard who's had to clean those boxes in the women's restrooms, a bit less waste is nice. Women go through LOTS of these things and it contributes to serious amounts of waste. :(
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Posted by: wolfgangmo on Jan 26, 2009 8:28 AM
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Warm wash and cold rinse. Stick em in the dryer with the dryer balls and voila. Clean.
If you are squeamish you owe it to yourself to give them a try. Our co-op carries them and most stores can bring them in depending on their distributor. I just googled them and there are 1000's of hits.
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Posted by: stopthemaddness2 on Jan 26, 2009 10:41 AM
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This is cat.shit.crazy!
Never in a Million years, you guys have gone way off the planet on this one.
Nasty, Unsanitary, which is why they are called sanitary napkins, come the hello on!!!!
Green it in other areas, but leave this alone. Not every thing needs to be cut loose for the price of being GREEN. THIS IS DAM DUMB STUPID!!!
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Posted by: stopthemaddness2 on Jan 26, 2009 10:44 AM
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NOT EVEN IF YOU PAID ME
CAT.SHIT.CRAZY IDEA!! AND A CUP, COME ON!!!
SOUNDS LIKE SOMEBODY HAS DONE TOO MUCH METH, COKE, OR CRACK TO ME!!!
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Posted by: aronblue on Jan 26, 2009 11:03 AM
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Posted by: callliope on Jan 26, 2009 11:29 AM
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Posted by: asmb on Jan 26, 2009 11:35 AM
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Besides, we ALL get familiar with menstrual blood one way or another, so what's the big deal about a cup or a washable pad?
Personally, I'm glad that I have no responsibility in the choking deaths of marine life, since I'm not responsible for any plastic waste - which floats & which animals mistake for food.
Besides, using a cup is a LOT cheaper.
Good luck!
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» RE: eusable cups not an option! YOU GUYS ARE CAT SHIT CRAZY TO CONSIDER CUPS AND RAGS! GOOD GRIEF!
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Posted by: callliope on Jan 26, 2009 11:51 AM
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Not only is it safer for your personal health and the health of the environment, more convenient because you never need to worry about where and when you're going to buy tampons or pads, but you save a ton of money! It's only logical, so when will everyone get on board with the obvious?
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Posted by: pintsizeddame on Jan 26, 2009 11:53 AM
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Sadly, feminine hygiene is a money making business. Companies like tampax, maxi, always, and kotex will never encourage women to choose products that are healthy and cost effective. Their sales depend on controlling the way women think of their period. Convince millions of women that disposable menstrual products are the only socially acceptable way to manage your cycle and you’ll make millions. Convince millions of women that their natural cycle is shameful and oppressive and you’ll make billions.
That goes without mentioning the health risks associated with tampons. Everyone knows about TSS, but hardly anyone considers the pesticides and fertilizers used in the production of cotton. That very same chemically soaked cotton is bleached white so it appears clean, then we put that bleached chemically soaked cotton tampon in our vagina so our vagina can dry out. If we’re going to switch to organic food to be kind to our body we should also consider being kind to our vagina.
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Posted by: undrgrndgirl on Jan 26, 2009 11:56 AM
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to those discussing tubal ligation and hysterectomy - surgical sterilization is difficult to get because of old concerns about eugenics (in the state of california thousands of women - especially minority women - were sterilized with out their consent or knowledge); doctors are reluctant to sterilize anyone (male or female) under the age of 30 or who does not already have at least 2 children (this used to be spelled out in the sterilization consent form used in california)...in part for fear of being sued later by someone who has changed their mind and again in part because of eugenic concerns.
hysterectomy is not considered birth control and is usually only performed for other medical concerns such as excessive bleeding, fibroids, cancer, etc...and such surgery should never be taken lightly - there are, as with any surgery legitimate risks of infection and even death.
to the woman above who is looking into ways to not have a period - good luck finding a reputable surgeon who will perform a hysterectomy or oophorectomy without another medical condition requiring it...the only other thing that *might* work is taking continuous birth control pills...
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Posted by: HooksHero on Jan 26, 2009 1:16 PM
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Heavy, for me, was having to use an "overnight" pad and a "super" tampon and still feeling nervous about leaks. I admit I was fearful of natural products because I didn't think they could handle the task of keeping up with my flow.
If I still had a uterus and ovaries I would now be convinced to give them a shot, especially with the amount of products I had to use. (I have my own person opinions on whether or not the radical hysterectomy, which started as a myomectomy, was entirely necessary.)
I volunteer at a women's clinic and would love to be able to tell women who have unusually heavy periods about ecologically and medically sound options. Any opinions from users of these products or good websites to direct people to?
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Posted by: spiralwriter on Jan 26, 2009 3:26 PM
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I've been using the washable pads since 1993, cups since 2003, and sea sponges from time to time for about a year, and I've yet to have anything wear out. Besides saving a fortune and not throwing so much away each month, I've had a lot LESS trouble with yeast infections and such since I made the switch. On the rare occasions I've been caught out without my own supplies, the typical disposable pads are so uncomfortable that I'm sure that irritation led to problems in the past, at least for me. For the record, I do have a pretty heavy flow, especially now that I'm moving into perimenopause. I just change things out once more per day than I did in my 20s, no big deal. The cup or sponges make things like running or cycling a thousand times more comfortable as well without the horrible over-drying that can come with a tampon, not to mention the very real risks from the materials they're made with.
Thanks for putting this information out there! I think taking responsibility for our own bodies and losing the phobia will do a whole lot more good than just cutting down on the burden to landfills.
Peace.
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Posted by: jparsons on Jan 26, 2009 3:33 PM
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and I've never had any major problems with it.
I can understand not everybody likes the idea, but
let's keep an open forum of discussion for those who
haven't already considered it.
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Posted by: PurpleLove08 on Jan 26, 2009 8:09 PM
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I would recommend ordering from www.saucytots.com
Go to Mimi's Dreams and you will find AFFORDABLE and CUTE reusable cloth pads. I absolutely love them.
Vajpads.com isn't bad either and you can also find some good "reusable cloth pads" on etsy.com. Best of luck!
I am so glad I found out about cloth pads months ago.
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Posted by: Ghoulman on Jan 26, 2009 8:12 PM
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hellooo? Is this thing on???
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Posted by: carriedoodle on Jan 27, 2009 10:31 AM
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i love saving money as well as not putting any of their dirty plastics (rayon) that can tear my vagina inside of my body! and for times when i must use a tampon, i only use 100% organic cotton! also, tampons are considered medical devices, but they are not as sanitary as sanitary products- think about that!
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Posted by: littlepitcher on Jan 27, 2009 11:22 AM
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You can squeeze them out with TP or clean a cup with it, if you have ghastly co-workers or don't want to find out if you do.
Never had an infection from them, but I never was much of a sugar binger so yeast was not a problem. I would advise against storing any spares in a mildew-prone location.
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Posted by: Julia Schopick on Jan 27, 2009 4:42 PM
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I am so glad you wrote this piece. It’s terrific. As you correctly stated, the makers of these alternative (reusable) menstrual products don’t have the budgets to compete with the manufacturers of the disposables. So we rely on word of mouth -- and word of Internet -- to tell the story.
The numbers you give are accurate: the average woman disposes of between 10,000 and 15,000 tampons, pads and applicators in her lifetime, which is about 250 to 300 pounds of waste per woman. And yes, in the United States and Canada alone, more than 12 billion pads and tampons are tossed annually.
All true.
But, these numbers are just too HUGE. Most women cannot actually PICTURE this amount of waste!
So, The Keeper, Inc., manufacturer of The Keeper, has posted actual photos, SHOWING the amount of waste one woman creates by using and tossing tampons into the environment in 1 month, 1 year, 10 years -- and in her menstruating lifetime (approximately 40 years). (HINT: We had to use a DUMP TRUCK to show one woman’s lifetime use!)
Please take a look at these Comparison Photos, and I know you’ll agree that these 4 photos are worth at least TEN THOUSAND WORDS!
http://www.keeper.com/photographs.html
One you see these comparison photos, you won’t ever think about disposable menstrual products the same way again!
Julia Schopick
www.Keeper.com
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Posted by: jodytish on Jan 27, 2009 6:15 PM
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It does take a little bit to get used to, but so does a tampon at first!
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Posted by: stopthemaddness2 on Jan 27, 2009 8:14 PM
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REALLY, THIS TALK ABOUT RAGS, CUPS, AND SPONGES, IS AS STUPID AS A URINE STAINED BOX OF ROCKS!
NASTY AND UNSANITARY, AND STUPID AS HELL!!!
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Posted by: stopthemaddness2 on Jan 27, 2009 8:20 PM
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Posted by: Dr O on Jan 28, 2009 10:39 AM
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For those who are repulsed by this idea and believe that this is a return to the dark ages... I would suggest to you that your beliefs about how "disgusting" and "unclean" this is is a carry over from the dark ages when menstruating women were separated and thought of as "dirty" and needing to be secluded. Whether you realize it or not... you are still being influenced by outdated and unhealthy views about the most natural functions of a woman's body that should be marveled and celebrated! If it weren't for menstrual blood NONE of us would be here!
For those who are insistent on using tampons and pads... I would invite you to do some research into the correlations between dioxin (a highly carcinogenic chemical used to bleach paper products... including feminine hygiene products) and illnesses such as endometriosis, uterine fibroid tumors, infertility, miscarriage and the estrogen dominance which is associated with these conditions.
For those who claim that products such as the menstrual cup would be unrealistic due to heavy flows and clotting... and have been told by their physicians that either of these are normal... THEY MOST DEFINITELY ARE NOT! Heavy menstrual flow, clotting and pain associated with the menstrual cycle are all signs of imbalance &/or toxicity in the body... and very often indications of an undiagnosed dis-ease process... either hormonal imbalance or conditions such as endometriosis or uterine fibroids. (I know this personally as I nearly bled to death... literally... because I spent years going from doctor to doctor who told me that this was "normal" only to finally discover that I had ALL of the conditions I've mentioned when I wound up hemorrhaging and in the ER! Once successfully addressed... my cycles were normalized and ONLY last 3-4 days... rather than up to two weeks... with a LIGHT flow, NO clotting and NO discomfort! I suffered with this NEEDLESSLY for over 30 years of my life!)
For those that suggest that the answer is to have an elective hysterectomy... ARE YOU NUTS?! The uterus is MUCH more than a baby making factory! Anatomically it also keeps other internal organs in their right place and removal of the uterus is correlated with bladder leakage and incontinence later in life. Additionally... the removal of the uterus is also associated with less sexual satisfaction due to reduced intensity of the orgasmic response. Nature knew what she was doing and a woman's body is an amazing thing!
I would invite all of you to carefully review your beliefs about what it means to be a woman... about your body... and also to question EVERYTHING that your physicians are telling you! Doctors and researchers have been making a bloody FORTUNE off of the natural functions of women's bodies... turning menopause and pre-menstrual sensitivity into illnesses that require pharmaceutical intervention so they can profit off of their brainwashing tactics! Their drugs are poisons... their surgical procedures are barbaric... and women's bodies have become a battlefield for Big Pharma and Medical Mafia doctors!
Reclaim your power as a woman... learn about the marvels of your body and how to take care of it yourself! Take responsibility for your OWN health and well-being AND the environment! There is VERY MUCH a connection between the manner in which women and the Earth are viewed and treated in a patriarchal society! Women need to STOP buying into the religious and cultural conditioning that hurts them and the planet!
All the best to you ~ Dr. O
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Posted by: jenviets on Jan 28, 2009 2:43 PM
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if you feel it disgusting or dirty then you have been successfully brainwashed by the patriarchal media
We women must reclaim this monthly ritual, honor it, love it, nuture it
feed your blood to your garden, your plants will thrive and mother earth will rejoice. This is our connection to the goddess, to each other and all creation. let us NOT waste it down the drain or into our over crowded landfills. Thank you for this article, now lets create a movement.
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