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Where Are the Female Arnold Schwarzeneggers?

By Marie Cocco, Washington Post Writers Group. Posted November 21, 2008.


Unlike Ah-nold, no woman will ever burst into high political office without a lick of experience. And women with credentials don't fare much better.
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WASHINGTON -- It is time to stop kidding ourselves. This wasn't a breakthrough year for American women in politics. It was a brutal one.

The glass ceiling remains firmly in place -- not cracked, as Hillary Clinton insisted as she tried to claim rhetorical victory after her defeat in the Democratic nominating contest. It wasn't even scratched with the candidacy of Sarah Palin as the Republican vice presidential nominee -- unless you consider becoming an object of national ridicule to be a symbol of advancement. As divergent as these two women are ideologically and temperamentally, as different as are their resumes, they both banged their heads -- hard -- against the ceiling. Both were bruised. So was the goal of advancing women in political leadership.

Even if President-elect Barack Obama chooses Clinton as secretary of state, no ground will be broken. Clinton would be the third woman to hold the post. And there is no longer anything extraordinary in a president naming women to his Cabinet. Franklin D. Roosevelt did it first, when he appointed Frances Perkins as labor secretary in 1933. Since then, every president but Harry Truman and John F. Kennedy has named women to the Cabinet or to Cabinet-level posts, according to the Center for American Women and Politics at Rutgers University. Bill Clinton holds the record: He appointed 16 women overall, and at one point about half of those serving in Clinton's Cabinet were female.

But, we are invariably told, surely there are enough women moving through the "pipeline" of lower offices so that someday, some woman from somewhere will win the presidency or the vice presidency. Well, here is how things stand: Eight women will serve as governors in 2009, the same as this year. The proportion of women serving in statewide elective office actually has dropped since it reached a high of about 28 percent in 2000; it is now about 24 percent, according to the center.

The Senate will add one woman next year, bringing the number of female senators to 17. Ten newly elected House members are female. This means that as the class of 2008 enters the Capitol's marble halls, it will include less than half the number of women who first won office in 1992 -- the so-called "year of the woman."

Including incumbents and newcomers, a record number of women will be serving in Congress, but still only 17 percent of its members will be female. This is where that record places us: on a par with the legislative representation women have achieved in sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America and the Caribbean. The United Nations, which tracks women's global political advancement, says that at this rate, it will take women in the developing world 40 years to reach parity with men.

How long will it take us? We already are well into the fourth decade since the contemporary women's movement of the 1970s spawned a generation that sought to claim an equal place in the halls of power.

Those who watched the media's sexist hazing of both Clinton and Palin often rationalize this treatment as the result of these two candidates' particular personalities and the legitimacy -- or presumed illegitimacy -- of their campaigns. But Barbara Lee, whose Boston-based family foundation has conducted extensive research of gubernatorial races involving women, routinely identifies the same undercurrents in state campaigns. Voters demand more experience of a woman candidate and judge her competence separately from whether she is sufficiently "likable." Male candidates typically must clear only the competence bar to be judged -- as Obama indelicately put it during a primary debate -- "likable enough."

"We heard that over and over again -- that no woman is ever right," Lee says of her focus groups. "They like the concept of it, but when it comes to a real, live, breathing candidate, they don't."

Lee summarizes the disparate assessment this way: "There are no female Arnold Schwarzeneggers." That is, no woman will ever burst into politics, capture the voters' imagination and be catapulted into high public office without a lick of experience.

Yet American women are a majority of the population and a majority of the electorate. They earn more than half the bachelor's and master's degrees, a level of educational achievement far exceeding that of women in developing countries. There must be some reason we don't do any better than women in impoverished, rural regions of the world where cultural norms oppress women.

Maybe it is because our culture isn't so different after all.

© 2008, Washington Post Writers Group

 


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Marie Cocco is a prize-winning syndicated columnist on political and cultural topics for The Washington Post Writers Group. She is a frequent commentator on national TV and radio shows.

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not the biggest problem, but you're right women are mean to each other
Posted by: mcubed on Nov 21, 2008 8:24 AM   
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Hi-
While I think that the larger issue is institutional gender discrimination, I have to agree with your point that a lot of women seem to not trust other women, and sometimes undermine them.

I've had more "personal interaction problems" with women at work than I have with men. I chalk this up to some women who are in low-level positions trying to advance themselves by knocking others down who they see as threats. It doesn't help them, and hurts those of us around them who would prefer a collaborative effort.

Typically, in my experience, the women who are the most threatened by other women seem to be from conservative family backgrounds where they sought approval of the male leader (Dad, Boyfriend, etc), often using ingratiating behavior/flirtation as a weapon of choice.

As a woman who was raised in a more egalitarian household, I find this behavior unprofessional.

Generally, the behavior aimed at other women is similar to Sarah Palin's snarky highschool echo of "I'm the chick in charge and you're not!" It has nothing to do with actually getting work done.

it is depressing, and you're right, a lot of women are misogynistic and probably don't even realize it.

Michele

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.....
Posted by: Elmowilcox on Nov 21, 2008 9:14 AM   
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Good point here, women vastly outnumber men. Given that numbers are what win elections at every level of government, who is keeping who out of office?

I know for one, I could not make my wife vote the way I wanted her to to save my life. She'll vote who shes wants to vote for. She votes Obama when given Hillary as the alternative, and then Obama/Biden even though Palin was in line to become Prez(I'm counting McCain's days at this point). I guess it's the male population's fault that their wives, girlfriends, and single woman are free to vote how they choose. We should modify the Constitution to make you vote for you gender, then you'll get the change you're looking for.

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RE: If women stopped hating women, they would not have this problem.
Posted by: luzmejor on Nov 22, 2008 4:33 PM   
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I don't think it is misogyny, so much as it is ordinary jealousy.

I figured that out when I was just a little kid listening to female adults' conversation. Even in the matter of a couple announcing wedding plans, the statement would always be made that "She isn't even pretty!"

Then the question would be asked, "Why is he marrying Her?! I could almost hear them all thinking that any of them would be more 'qualified' for that job and that very common opinion extends to any position for a lot of women who work in or outside the home.

I don't know if men feel that same way, but I suspect they also feel more qualified than the men the voters choose to represent us all.

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Women in politics
Posted by: villager1 on Nov 21, 2008 2:45 AM   
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If Halle Berry had run against McCain the margin would have been even greater and who knows - maybe she would be a great President! Maybe you all lost out by not nominating her! Exactly what were you thinking?

Hilary,Obama or Halle - Hobson's choice?

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what a surprise........
Posted by: 2thepoint on Nov 21, 2008 2:56 AM   
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you mean sexism is alive and well in America?

we didn't need this article to highlight that..just ask Palin and Hillary and the millions of other women that experience it every day!

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Rubbish
Posted by: kepstein7777 on Nov 21, 2008 3:12 AM   
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Funny how the word "Pelosi" didn't come up once in this article.

In the same year, two women have gone further in a presidential election than ever before. And the Republicans--most of whom think women are only good for cooking and making little Republicans--put a woman out there voluntarily, if recklessly. So I think it's hard to argue that it's the same-old-same-old.

As for female Arnold Schwarzeneggers, what exactly would be the benefit to the women's movement of having one, apart from an excuse to write a feminist article whining that women only get elected based on fame or looks, rather than credentials?

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» RE: ubbish Posted by: 2thepoint
» oops Posted by: 2thepoint
Cindy Sheehan
Posted by: weathered on Nov 21, 2008 4:29 AM   
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an honorable and strong woman who's distinguished more for the things she's not:
Pretentious, stylized or self-absorbed.

She simply lost her child for the theft of Oil and is motivated to impart change, that's conviction, purpose and passion.

May Feith, Wolfowitz, Perle, Libby & Rumsfeld wash her feet.

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Curious contradictions
Posted by: Sushi on Nov 21, 2008 4:52 AM   
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All we hear from the Right is blathering about all the "Clintonian re-treads" Obama's transition team is putting into place in his cabinet, when only a few weeks ago "experience" was the mantra. If we go back to the most recent successful administration, it was Clinton's. To go back any further, those people are too old or dead.

Who was making a fuss that most of the Bush I and Bush II cabinet was filled to the brim with Nixon re-treads and newbies with not a smidgeon of experience in the department they were heading, like Michael Brown.

I think I would want people who knew the turf, knew the rules and didn't have to be brought up to speed for the first two years...they can hit the ground running. Male or female.

Sushi

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Do women have to be macho-egotisticals?
Posted by: maxpayne on Nov 21, 2008 5:34 AM   
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I mean come on. Apart from Arnold's big muscles, he's nothing more than a soft "moderate" like the rest of the remaining moderate Republicans these days. Compare him to Lisa Murkowski, Olympia Snowe, and even Hillary Clinton and tell me the differences on the issues.

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Politics is a masculine and left-brained construct
Posted by: Yazzi on Nov 21, 2008 5:57 AM   
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Even if women do reach further into positions of political power, those aspects of themselves that would serve the world most beautifully and effectively at this time: their intuition and the ability to nurture and love, would not be effectively utilized.

What this world needs now... is love sweet love

Those who want to left-brain discourse away from that truth are caught up in the current paradigm - which obviously isn't the avenue of world peace and bliss -

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Oh, I Don't Care
Posted by: Carol Burns on Nov 21, 2008 7:28 AM   
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Why even talk about the "glass ceiling" when Bush/Cheney are flushing our country down the drain? Hillary shot herself in the foot by failing to address the needs of the people and by all but endorsing McCain. That also killed her chances at the vice presidency. Palin's candidacy was a joke and that has nothing to do with her gender; she's just stupid. If you really want to pick a woman to break the glass ceiling, I recommend Donna Brazille.

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Oh please Marie, cut it out!
Posted by: kmarx on Nov 21, 2008 7:40 AM   
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"Yet American women are a majority of the population and a majority of the electorate. They earn more than half the bachelor's and master's degrees, a level of educational achievement far exceeding that of women in developing countries. There must be some reason we don't do any better than women in impoverished, rural regions of the world where cultural norms oppress women."

Women in this country are to be compared to oppressed in other countries?! Give me a break!

Yes woman may receive more degrees then men but you will find the degrees which men attain are often those in the more demanding areas like, math, chemistry, physics and engineering.

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Draft Milla Jovovich
Posted by: pshuster on Nov 21, 2008 7:45 AM   
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Hmm, so if I understand the article, the author is suggesting a campaign to draft Milla Jovovich for Governor of California. Well, sign me up! Unfortunately I live in Florida and won't be able to do much other than offer moral support (I'm also flat broke but I would try to contribute something, as much as I could afford).

It might be too early to think about a Presidential run (not for me, though) and of course she has the same problem there as Arnold not being an American.

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Porn Star, Italian Parliament
Posted by: PaulK on Nov 21, 2008 9:07 AM   
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Also Evita Peron, president of Argentina, and Congresswoman Katherine Harris. These two had to sleep with the right guy, though.

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You don't want to celebrate?
Posted by: lynmarenjensen on Nov 21, 2008 10:01 AM   
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For the first time in history, Republicans chose a woman to run for vice-president. That not many people outside the Republican base wanted to vote for her is beside the point. (Actually, if we're talking about being a star in politics despite a slim resume, she could be seen as a female Arnold Schwarzenegger.) And for the first time in the history of the Democratic party, a woman was the favorite to win the White House. Barack Obama is the only reason we're not looking at President Hilary Clinton right now. And you don't want to celebrate? As Ray Bradbury once said, to complainers who faulted the moon walk, "You don't want to celebrate? To Hell with you!"

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You're asking me specifically about Sarah Palin?
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Nov 21, 2008 1:07 PM   
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I don't know how to explain how folks burst onto the national scene in politics, with little experience. Senator Obama and guv Shwatzenagro included. Let's just hope for the best, as we dismiss prior qualifications--after all, Dick Cheney has had seventeen heart-attacks worth of experience.

Where's that got us again?

And what the hell is this author's obsession with X chromosomes have got to do with good governance.

Anyone?

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thanks for the depressing reminder, Marie
Posted by: ayala on Nov 21, 2008 4:00 PM   
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all that you say is depressingly true. Honky is somewhat correct in that women really hate each other in America. but it's also a rabid macho culture, too. a lot of european pundits have also marveled at the irrational woman-hating in america. if it keeps up, though, i'm afraid all of these brilliantly educated women are going to migrate to scandinavia and rwanda where they can get some decent respect and representation.

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ah-nold...
Posted by: undrgrndgirl on Nov 21, 2008 4:27 PM   
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did NOT just "burst into politics" out of no where - he was strategically placed by the puppet masters of enron. (watch enron: the smartest guys in the room).

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Could they marry into it?
Posted by: YogiBear on Nov 21, 2008 5:10 PM   
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Arnold married a Kennedy. That was always going to be a ticket to something big.

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Balkan analogy
Posted by: RW on Nov 22, 2008 9:13 AM   
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"I will believe that the battle of feminism is over, and that the female has reached a position of equality with the male, when I hear that a country has allowed itself to be turned upside-down and led to the brink of war by its passion for a totally bald woman writer."


--Rebecca West in Black Lamb and Grey Falcon

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cry baby
Posted by: MobileSucks on Nov 22, 2008 10:52 AM   
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>Unlike Ah-nold, no woman will ever burst into high political office without a lick of experience. And women with credentials don't fare much better.<

BOO-HOO. Also, not true.

Whiners don't win. Does Ah-nold cry like a little girly man? No. He's a champ and people love that. The idea that women without experience will never get elected is total bullshit. Things ARE changing. Pretty soon one fine day we will have more women in office helping to wreck the country just like the boys.

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» RE: cry baby Posted by: luzmejor
Haven't you forgotten someone?
Posted by: beafdog on Nov 24, 2008 1:59 PM   
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Shirley Temple Black. And it's not a common thing for inexperienced celebrities to win high office, both of these were outliers rather than some kind of trend.

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It's NOT Just About Women
Posted by: joeocho88 on Nov 25, 2008 2:07 PM   
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The power elites in this country have very clerverly divided us from being JUST AMERICANS into being Hispanic-Americans,African-Americans, Native Americans, women, soccer moms, etc. & etc. I think you get the idea.

Once they divide us and have us fighting each other for the few economic crumbs that "trickle down" --they they will be free to LOOT OUR NATIONAL ECONOMY FOR MONEY TO SQUANDER AND GAMBLE WITH AND HIDE IT IN THE CAYMAN ISLANDS!

I thin WE THE PEOPLE ought to recognize this MARGINALIZATION for WHAT IT REALLY IS and show up EN MASSE and VOTE THESE BASTARDS OUT!

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It's NOT Just About Women
Posted by: joeocho88 on Nov 25, 2008 2:07 PM   
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The power elites in this country have very clerverly divided us from being JUST AMERICANS into being Hispanic-Americans,African-Americans, Native Americans, women, soccer moms, etc. & etc. I think you get the idea.

Once they divide us and have us fighting each other for the few economic crumbs that "trickle down" --they they will be free to LOOT OUR NATIONAL ECONOMY FOR MONEY TO SQUANDER AND GAMBLE WITH AND HIDE IT IN THE CAYMAN ISLANDS!

I thin WE THE PEOPLE ought to recognize this MARGINALIZATION for WHAT IT REALLY IS and show up EN MASSE and VOTE THESE BASTARDS OUT!

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It's NOT Just About Women
Posted by: joeocho88 on Nov 25, 2008 2:07 PM   
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The power elites in this country have very clerverly divided us from being JUST AMERICANS into being Hispanic-Americans,African-Americans, Native Americans, women, soccer moms, etc. & etc. I think you get the idea.

Once they divide us and have us fighting each other for the few economic crumbs that "trickle down" --they they will be free to LOOT OUR NATIONAL ECONOMY FOR MONEY TO SQUANDER AND GAMBLE WITH AND HIDE IT IN THE CAYMAN ISLANDS!

I thin WE THE PEOPLE ought to recognize this MARGINALIZATION for WHAT IT REALLY IS and show up EN MASSE and VOTE THESE BASTARDS OUT!

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where are all the female Jesus'?
Posted by: anarchris on Nov 25, 2008 2:54 PM   
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Shakespeares, Confucius, Kings, Ghandis, Einsteins, Buddhas?
where's best qualities of the best men?
self sacrifice,heros,protectors,
the best qualities of traditional women?
selflessness, humility,emotional generosity,nurturing, relationship valuing?
well, if they still exist it's not on alternet etc.
just victimologists, wolf criers, professional victims,hypocrites,neo-sexists,emotional cripples,separatists,tribalists,supremacists,
dinosaurs,propagandists.
the only true liberals anymore have long since moved on to another stage of evolution.

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