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A Dark Hole of Democracy: How the Fed Prints Money Out of Thin Air

By William Greider, The Nation. Posted July 17, 2009.


Pelosi: "We wake up one morning and AIG was receiving $80 billion from the Fed. So of course we're saying, 'Where is this money coming from?"
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The financial crisis has propelled the Federal Reserve into an excruciating political dilemma. The Fed is at the zenith of its influence, using its extraordinary powers to rescue the economy. Yet the extreme irregularity of its behavior is producing a legitimacy crisis for the central bank. The remote technocrats at the Fed who decide money and credit policy for the nation are deliberately opaque and little understood by most Americans. For the first time in generations, they are now threatened with popular rebellion.

During the past year, the Fed has flooded the streets with money -- distributing trillions of dollars to banks, financial markets and commercial interests -- in an attempt to revive the credit system and get the economy growing again. As a result, the awesome authority of this cloistered institution is visible to many ordinary Americans for the first time. People and politicians are shocked and confused, and also angered, by what they see. They are beginning to ask some hard questions for which Federal Reserve governors do not have satisfactory answers.

Where did the central bank get all the money it is handing out? Basically, the Fed printed it, out of thin air. That is what central banks do. Who told the Fed governors they could do this? Nobody, really -- not Congress or the president. The Federal Reserve Board, alone among government agencies, does not submit its budgets to Congress for authorization and appropriation. It raises its own money, sets its own priorities.

Representative Wright Patman, the Texas populist who was a scourge of central bankers, once described the Federal Reserve as "a pretty queer duck." Congress created the Fed in 1913 with the presumption that it would be "independent" from the rest of government, aloof from regular politics and deliberately shielded from the hot breath of voters or the grasping appetites of private interests -- with one powerful exception: the bankers.

The Fed was designed as a unique hybrid in which government would share its powers with the private banking industry. Bankers collaborate closely on Fed policy. Banks are the "shareholders" who ostensibly own the twelve regional Federal Reserve banks. Bankers sit on the boards of directors, proposing interest-rate changes for Fed governors in Washington to decide. Bankers also have a special advisory council that meets privately with governors to critique monetary policy and management of the economy. Sometimes, the Fed pretends to be a private organization. Other times, it admits to being part of the government.

The antiquated quality of this institution is reflected in the map of the Fed's twelve regional banks. Five of them are located in the Midwest (better known today as the industrial Rust Belt). Missouri has two Federal Reserve banks (St. Louis and Kansas City), while the entire West Coast has only one (located in San Francisco, not Los Angeles or Seattle). Virginia has one; Florida does not. Among its functions, the Federal Reserve directly regulates the largest banks, but it also looks out for their well-being -- providing regular liquidity loans for those caught short and bailing out endangered banks it deems "too big to fail." Critics look askance at these peculiar arrangements and see "conspiracy." But it's not really secret. This duck was created by an act of Congress. The Fed's favoritism toward bankers is embedded in its DNA.

This awkward reality explains the dilemma facing the Fed. It cannot stand too much visibility, nor can it easily explain or justify its peculiar status. The Federal Reserve is the black hole of our democracy -- the crucial contradiction that keeps the people and their representatives from having any voice in these most important public policies. That's why the central bankers have always operated in secrecy, avoiding public controversy and inevitable accusations of special deal-making. The current crisis has blown the central bank's cover. Many in Congress are alarmed, demanding greater transparency. More than 250 House members are seeking an independent audit of Fed accounts. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi observed that the Fed seems to be poaching on Congressional functions -- handing out public money without the bother of public decision-making.

"Many of us were…if not surprised, taken aback, when the Fed had $80 billion to invest in AIG just out of the blue," Pelosi said. "All of a sudden, we wake up one morning and AIG was receiving $80 billion from the Fed. So of course we're saying, Where is this money coming from? 'Oh, we have it. And not only that, we have more.'" So who needs Congress? Pelosi sounded guileless, but she knows very well where the Fed gets its money. She was slyly tweaking the central bankers on their vulnerability.

Fed chair Ben Bernanke responded with the usual aloofness. An audit, he insisted, would amount to "a takeover of monetary policy by the Congress." He did not appear to recognize how arrogant that sounded. Congress created the Fed, but it must not look too deeply into the Fed's private business. The mystique intimidates many politicians. The Fed's power depends crucially upon the people not knowing exactly what it does.


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William Greider is the author of, most recently, "Come Home, America: The Rise and Fall (and Redeeming Promise) of Our Country (Rodale Books, 2009)."

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Greider has it Exactly Correct ... As Far As He Goes ...
Posted by: mmckinl on Jul 17, 2009 12:22 AM   
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Where does Greider fall short?

Greider acknowledges all the truths the privately owned and operated Federal Reserve does not want you to know ...

Yet He fails to take the final step ... that is that with our power through the government to create our money without debt by eliminating fractional reserve banking for the banks we can create over one trillion dollars for our budget without inflation! We are subsidizing the banks over a trillion dollars a year and then some.

He comes close when he talks about funding for high speed rail ... but think ... couldn't we print as much money as the economy needs instead of allowing banks to make $9 from $1 as they do with fractional reserve banking?

The question is: Why should we have to borrow our own money? Our interest expense after bailing the banks and running a budget deficit will be approaching $500 billion a year ... all money borrowed from ourselves! This is interest money that we could use for programs or tax reductions.

The power to create our own money has to be carefully balanced against inflation and the devaluation of our dollar ... and in that there is grave risk. Should we get greedy our money will lose value quickly.

But, as the final guarantors of our dollar shouldn't we get the benefits as well as the risk? The privately owned and operated Federal Reserve wants the profits of our money without the risk and who wouldn't? The 300 years of fractional reserve banking, with both gold backed and fiat currencies has been the biggest ongoing fraud in the history of the world.

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Organized Corporate Crime Rule = FASCISM
Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Jul 17, 2009 1:09 AM   
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A privately rigged bank monopoly in charge of the nation is nothing short of criminal. Every important founder (minus Alexander Hamilton as a stooge for European bankers) said so to a man. Private control of money is worse than a license to steal. It is a medieval extortion racket with concentration of money and therefore virtually all political power at the hands of a blood money parasite class.

A parasite ruling class that thinks it knows better how to rule the nation has hardly been subtle. Considering how gullible Americans are, the corporate crime class has made its intention clear over the last hundred years and more with virtually every unnecessary major war and boom-bust disaster produced under their de facto crime regime. Deep capture control of Washington, media, and “education” is the hat trick that has kept this parasite ruling class in power over the generations.

Put another way, as good as W. Greider’s story seems, it is a whitewash and so is Geider’s previous work on the “Fed” in “Secrets of the Temple”. For a real expose on the “Federal Reserve” bank that is neither federal nor a reserve: see the Case Against the Fed by Murray Rothbard who was dean of the Austrian School of Economics.

The “Fed” was set up at a secret summit on Jekyll Island in 1910 by 7 banker operatives. All of them were in the pocket of monopolist robber baron Fascists who had less than no interest in capitalism (that requires real competition) or democracy. The “Federal Reserve” was rubberstamped into law by “progressive” democrat KKK racist Woodrow Wilson who also rubberstamped World War I for corporate crime and extortionist criminals.



“The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the government of the U.S. ever since the days of Andrew Jackson. History depicts Andrew Jackson as the last truly honorable and incorruptible American president.”
President FDR (on de facto Fascist rule in a letter to corporate monopoly charlatan “Colonel” Edward M. House, co-founder of the Council on Foreign Relations and political fixer for the ruling class. House also handled President Wilson. 11/21/ l933 from the book "F.D.R.: His Personal Letters" - New York: Duell, Sloan and Pearce 1950)

“A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men ... We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world—no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men. ”
President Woodrow Wilson (from Wilson’s book “The New Freedom” published after signing a “Federal Reserve Act” and its privately owned credit monopoly into law 1913)

“In 1913, the money power of the country was taken away from the people. By constitutional privilege it belongs with the Congress, but it was given up in the Federal Reserve Act. The Federal Reserve is no more Federal than Federal Express. But yet it has the power to determine the direction and use of money in our economy. If we could take that power back and put the Federal Reserve under Treasury, we start to be in a position of being able to control monetary policy on behalf of the United States people. ”
Congressman Dennis Kucinich (former Presidential candidate at Congress C-Span January 9th, 2009)

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» Stow your lecture. Posted by: GuitarBill
» Tell us about it, neo-Nazi. Posted by: GuitarBill
» You mean Jewish "Bankers" Posted by: telluride
» RE: You need professional help Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
» Well, who ARE THEY? Posted by: telluride
» RE: Former Presidents get it, Why Can't You? Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
» Hey GuitardBill Posted by: gimmie shelter
» Where is Wall Street Located Again? Posted by: SeattlePackedSnowandCollidedCars
Ok you people. Do what I did. Bug your Congressman and tell them to support Ron Paul's
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Jul 17, 2009 2:32 AM   
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bill to audit the Fed. Let's make Congress support it and then see how that slick Obama takes it. If Obama vetoes it, then Barry Hussein Obama deserves to FAIL !

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» HR 1207 to be exact Posted by: kegbot1
» RE: HR 1207 to be exact Posted by: JenniferBedingfield
» Sanders' S604 companion bill Posted by: mgmyers79
» RE: Sanders' S604 companion bill Posted by: JenniferBedingfield
The Wall of Neocons
Posted by: Perry Logan on Jul 17, 2009 2:48 AM   
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Don't forget the biggest obstacle of all. Anything Congress proposes will run smack into Obama's Wall of Neocons. :(

Who woulda thought our new President would turn out to be the single biggest obstacle to progressive goals?

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» RE: The Wall of Neocons Posted by: rafaeltoral
» RE: The Wall of Neocons Posted by: pawheel
» I Swore the Dems Controlled Congress Posted by: SeattlePackedSnowandCollidedCars
» RE: I Swore the Dems Controlled Congress Posted by: JenniferBedingfield
» RE: I Swore the Dems Controlled Congress Posted by: SeattlePackedSnowandCollidedCars
Call your Representatives
Posted by: lisafrequency on Jul 17, 2009 4:23 AM   
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Ron Paul ran his campaign on taking out the Fed he now has a bill in Congress to audit the Fed. Nancy Pelosi won't acknowledge it. People in California need to vote that her out please...

Unless you just like getting screwed and without being kissed.

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» unfortunately... Posted by: undrgrndgirl
The Real Problem Is Not The Bankers Having Their Hand in The Till But a Total Loss of Trust in Them
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Jul 17, 2009 4:36 AM   
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They've Always Had Their Hands in the Till, and have always enriched themselves. But it didn't really matter that they built their own Silver and Golden Palaces out of their misgotten gains, so long as they kept it reasonably quiet.

Building their palaces wasn't all bad, because they employed us Peasents to build them, and treated us reasonably well, such that we could afford to build our own houses and have enough not only to feed ourselves, but also have enough to design and build toys to play with.

The fact that there were a few palaces around with rich people living their didn't really matter - and we could even look at them and think what a good job we did building them.

But then the bankers got too greedy and started playing silly casino games. They forgot what money was really for, and just thought the most important thing about it was to accumulate as big a number as possible in their own personal bank accounts. They knew they would never be able to spend even a tiny fraction of it, but that didn't matter. The important thing was the game. They had to win the game of monopoly.

Meanwhile, they completely neglected us Peasents, and in the process of maximising their own personal numbers, realised that they could get slaves in other countries to build their toys for almost nothing.

Then suddenly the game stopped.

Us peasents realised that these people, had not only enriched themselves, but had used their ill gotten gains, not only to impoverish us, but also to control our governments by corrupting our politicians with massive bribes.

They never had the slightest interest in humans, except they want to control not only us but the entire world.

They think they are Gods and can sit back and watch while we kill each other and starve to death.

So what do we do about it? Let them kill us all?

Or not only complain, but demand our democracies back, and the prosecution of both the corrupters and the corrupted.

Tony

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Fed Monetary Agenda Requires a Policy of Secrecy, Deception and Constant Manipulation ...
Posted by: gazooks on Jul 17, 2009 4:58 AM   
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... of markets through it's FOMC to govern public perception and private investment. It's a case of exponentially compounding fraud.

The Obama Administration CAN NOT honour it's stated commitment to transparent government when it supports a system, it's official components AND it's PRIVATE proxy in the Fed under a policy of secrecy, period. It begs the question, however, of who is the proxy to whom.


President Obama, you can't have it both ways.

You are either committed to real reform of a corrupted monetary system that is and has been engineered and directed by the Federal Reserve Bank for a century, or you are party to the continuation of a process to destruction of working class equity and any semblance of democracy.

There will be NO massive contribution by a ruined social class to your re-election, nor support for a party that fails it's constituents so abjectly by allowing the fraud to extend to it's devastating end.

Stop the Fed SECRECY, the LIES, the Market Manipulation and the perpetuation of the advance of Corporatism. Your mandate is from the growing, desperate, disenfranchised working class, NOT THE FUCKING BANKERS!

What will the legacy be of the man that would be HOPE?

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The Foreign Debt
Posted by: Zxyler on Jul 17, 2009 5:21 AM   
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For years the US has been selling its own debt to other countries. What I could not understand is why does someone buy another person's debt. How do you make money out of it? Does it mean that the countries like China who bought this US debt, which mounts to millions of dollars, own parts of US? I hope it is not the WMD!

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The fed gets their money from the same place as folks on social security, medicare, etc.
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jul 17, 2009 5:45 AM   
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They extract their excesses from the working flesh of tomorrow, in the "gimme mine now, screw you later" approach to governance that the electorate has largely embraced, or has been suckered into believing* in.

Woe betide those who get stuck with the worst of the bill.

*I got a cup of coffee with my Obama-minted change. What'd you do with your yours?

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» Getting it straight: a Ponzi scheme. Posted by: ABetterFuture
» RE: Getting it straight: a Ponzi scheme. Posted by: JenniferBedingfield
» I wuv babies too! Posted by: ABetterFuture
Amazing
Posted by: aazippo2 on Jul 17, 2009 6:29 AM   
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Amazing isnt it? WSe have endless BILLIONS to waste in Iraq, Afghanistan and other places we dont belong, we have BILLIONS to give to the wealthiest banks and corporations yet Main Street America continues to suffer!

RT
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gimmie shelter
Posted by: gimmie shelter on Jul 17, 2009 6:42 AM   
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Allowing the Fed to exist is like allowing a convicted pedophile to watch your kids while you go on vacation. The Feds have proven that at their very core they are anti-democratic because the are pro-corporation and willing to let not only America fall into economic ruin but bring the rest of the world along for the ride. All this so rich a..holes can loot the country by robbing our wealth and then have us pay to replace the money which they have stolen....great system we have here.

We need change but not the kind Obama or Bush brought us because this is only more of the same on steroids. We do need change we can believe in but it will have to be change that we will force on Washington be getting rid of all the waste. By waste I don't mean money but rather the Congressman and Senators who now pollute the Capital with their presence.

Vote them all out and make it a clean sweep by also firing all their staffs who write the words that these talking heads spew. Lets put in term limits and public financing into politics to get rid the corporate cancer that this country is dying from. If we fail to change our countries direction we will become more of a police state then we already are do in part to those in power's awareness that we no longer view them with rose colored glasses and in fact can see them as the low lives they have always been.

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» RE: "Vote them all out" Posted by: fearn
» RE: How? Posted by: oregoncharles
» RE: How? Posted by: gimmie shelter
» Make a vote that counts Posted by: ReallyBearish
» RE: Make a vote that counts Posted by: gimmie shelter
How?
Posted by: oregoncharles on Jul 17, 2009 8:28 AM   
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Greider has lots of good ideas about what Congress "should" be doing, no conception of how to make them do it.

There's a famous saying about repeating the same old actions but expecting different results. It isn't really insane, just stupid. So what can we say for continuing to vote for Democrats in the hope they'll suddenly "grow a spine" (as if defying their constituents didn't take guts) and serve us instead of their corporate funders. They have the "spine" to utterly ignore our letter, phone calls, and polite demonstrations.

Haven't we tried that before? I've been around for a while now; the first time I could vote was 1968, a truly vintage year (ever heard of Pigasus? Look it up.). Our politics, and the Democratic party, have only moved to the right since the Dems sabotaged McGovern in 1972. That's 37 years of doing the same thing and expecting different results, folks.

There IS an alternative. There IS a "new", genuinely progressive, national party. You can look us up at www.gp.org.

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Oh, this is easy ...
Posted by: monkeywrench on Jul 17, 2009 9:18 AM   
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"Pelosi: 'We wake up one morning and AIG was receiving $80 billion from the Fed. So of course we're saying, 'Where is this money coming from?' "
. . . . .

The same place Milton Bradley gets its "money" for MONOPOLY.

(Except that, when it comes to Wall Street, "Park Place" is WAAAAY! more expensive ...)

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gimmie shelter
Posted by: gimmie shelter on Jul 17, 2009 9:57 AM   
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I hope all of you have read the "Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act", here at Alternet which was passed by Congress and signed by Obama. If you thought you had any freedoms left think again. It appears the only right we have left is to be good little consumers and pay taxes.

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Right-Wingers and Libertarians Have Been Screaming About The Federal Reserve for Decades
Posted by: Nuuon on Jul 17, 2009 9:59 AM   
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And the mainstream media labeled them "nutty conspiracy theorists" while the "left" said almost nothing.

As a person on the left, it disturbs me that "the left" has taken so damn long to deal with the Federal Reserve (and the New York banks that control it). When you give people an unlimited license to print money, which they in turn "loan" to you at interest-- Then the entire society becomes a permanent slave to those people and their printing press.

For decades the issue of the Federal Reserve, the fake money system, and the enslavement of a society by the money lenders was completely OFF LIMITS (and it still is in mainstream media). Why?

Will it take the same amount of time to face the facts surrounding the true perpetrators of 9/11?

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» What a load of crap Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com
» Where is Wall Street Located Again? Posted by: SeattlePackedSnowandCollidedCars
That money doesn't look like "thin air" on April 15.
Posted by: advancedatheist on Jul 17, 2009 10:20 AM   
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These anti-Fed arguments might make some sense if the IRS stops accepting Federal Reserve Notes (FRN's) as payment for taxes.

Instead I see this cognitive dissonance which calls FRN's "thin air" on every day of the year except on April 15, when the rhetoric about them mysteriously changes. On that day FRN's acquire tremendous value that the IRS "steals" from us at gunpoint.

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Cosmological mystery
Posted by: Jeanne on Jul 17, 2009 10:32 AM   
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It came from thin air; and when banks, etc. "pay back" their TARP money, it apparently returns to thin air. Has anyone asked what happened to the returned money -- shouldn't it have been repurposed for other designated "rescues?"

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The Feds print money the same way -----
Posted by: symcokid on Jul 17, 2009 10:40 AM   
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as our economy was created in the first place, out of thin air. It's all done with mirrors, it's all in the wrist, just pure magic! Something from nothing is still nothing and there is no basis for an economy.

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It Could Be Argued That The State of California Has Already Issued It's Own Currency
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Jul 17, 2009 11:04 AM   
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Whilst I don't know much about a California IOU, presumably it is a piece of paper that the State of California promises at some point in the future to not only exchange it for a US Dollar, but a US Dollar + 3.75 per cent annual interest.

Now whilst some people may be reluctant to accept a Californian IOU, other people will think that they are more valuable than a US Dollar, because if The State of California honours its promise, then it is.

I would expect that the Federal Government may be rather unhappy about this, but from a Californian State Workers perspective, being paid in a Californian IOU must be immeasurably better than losing their job and not being paid anything.

And as people get used to Californian IOU's as pieces of paper of real value, then they will become comfortable with exchanging them for goods and services, regardless of what the Federal Banks say.

Of course either the Federal Government or The State of California could change the rules, but if they don't, then Californian IOU's could just become another unit of currency, exchangeable for US Dollars at whatever rate the Market decides.

The State of California might never actually need to redeem them for US Dollars, because Californians might decide they prefer their Californian IOU's because they are worth more than US Dollars and can buy more things with them.

This could solve a lot of problems in California, even if it does seriously annoy the Federal Government.

California IOUs set for trade

Tony

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gimmie shelter
Posted by: gimmie shelter on Jul 17, 2009 12:13 PM   
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Everyone should go to Youtube and type in Federal Reserve and watch the 5 part movie which is there that will fill you in on the history of the Fed.

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Fed threatens tro crash the economy
Posted by: lisafrequency on Jul 17, 2009 2:18 PM   
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if they are audited which to me is proof they are linked in with terrorist.

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It's Sir Mick to you
Posted by: weaverofcloth on Jul 17, 2009 2:39 PM   
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Upper class, self-entitled, spoiled brats, if you ever actually listened to what they were saying, even way back when. Truly, the fruit of the London School of Economics.

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I have been asking this question for almost 2 years now...
Posted by: bnvasquez on Jul 17, 2009 2:48 PM   
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The more I think about it the more depressed I become. So many bailouts for the banks and so many people losing their homes at the same time. Where is the justice?

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Where is Wall Street Located Again?
Posted by: SeattlePackedSnowandCollidedCars on Jul 17, 2009 3:02 PM   
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A) New York State
B) Utah
C) Washington DC
D) Israel
E) All Of The Above
F) None Of The Above

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Not all Congresses are created equal -- or competent
Posted by: westomoon on Jul 17, 2009 3:49 PM   
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Great analysis of what's wrong with "the creature from Jekyll Island".

But using the Congress to replace it? Constitutionally, that's absolutely the right thing to do, I'll grant you. But have we already forgotten the amazing collection of goobers, perverts, theocrats, thugs, and vandals who ran that body and made the rules until 2007?

I'd recommend a re-reading of Matt Taibbi's amazing 2006 Rolling Stone cover story, "The Worst Congress Ever", if watching Jeff Sessions in the Sotomayor hearings (or Michelle Bachmann at any time) hasn't made you worry about the loons and idiots that still populate the Congress.

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BA
Posted by: mnstra on Jul 17, 2009 4:21 PM   
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Williams article is good and thoughtful. Unfortunately very naive/. The US congress, the central bankers are all in collusion to dominate the American people without any kind of transparency, The public hearings we see are a sham. All decisions are made on the golf course and in cocktails parties. The only real way for monetary reform is to start by taking all of our deposits away from big banks and put your money into credit unions. Then the banks will go insolvent. Then the fed will print more money to fill them up, then at least your money will be safer.There will be subsequent inflation that will lead to a revolution.
There is no end to this downward spiral. The US congress is a group of morons , like retards on a cooperate chain. Pelosie is the leader.Can you see these Sotomayor hearings....Unbelievable.

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The FED SCAM
Posted by: telluride on Jul 18, 2009 9:53 AM   
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Neither party wants to admit that they create money from thin air all the time.

They tell us it comes from tax revenues - and indeed some of it does -

but both parties print money like it's toilet paper... for the causes and people they want to advance.

Republicans love war and Israel [since the neocons purged the party of paleos]

Democrats love social programs [and Israel -since this all purpose lobby controls all three houses of government and the media]

Then there is the FED - [all five families share ethnicity with Goldman & Sachs]

They issue currency to member banks - out of thin air.

Yet nobody wants to admit to the scam....

WE the people - underwrite the currency we create.... and we should start warming up the electric chair for those in government who have been lying and cheating us from both sides of the aisle.

France changed after Robespierre. Sometimes it just takes some EMPHASIS from the proletariat... just to let em know we're serious.

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Since the Fed can and does just print money, why don't we just give half of it to you and half to
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Jul 20, 2009 12:40 AM   
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me. That is not likely to be popular. But then why do we just give it to the bankers?

Taking the bankers fingers out of the pie is a perfectly good idea. A lot of the 19th century was spent on this subject. It just wasn't worded that way. Some argued for a gold standard. Others for a silver standard. But, and the point is this, there was a limit on the amount of money in circulation. That limit followed the size of the pile of bullion in the great national safe.

Just as importantly they didn't just print money and hand it to a banker. I noticed that "The Economist" no longer carries its listing of the various valuings of the amount of money in circulation. I have wondered if this wasn't to cover "hanky panky". We are going to have to clean up banking. It is the cause of our problems. The guys in the 19th century were'nt wrong.

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DEMOCRATS CULTURE OF CORRUPTION
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