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Why U.S. Neocons Want Ahmadinejad to Win

By Stephen Zunes, AlterNet. Posted June 17, 2009.


American conservatives and Iranian hard-liners need each other.
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The only people happier than the Iranian elites over Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's apparently stolen election win Friday, were the neoconservatives and other hawks eager to block any efforts by the Obama administration to moderate U.S. policy toward the Islamic republic.

Since he was elected president in 2005, Ahmadinejad has filled a certain niche in the American psyche formerly filled by the likes of Saddam Hussein and Muammar Qaddafi as the Middle Eastern leader we most love to hate. It gives us a sense of righteous superiority to compare ourselves favorably to these seemingly irrational and fanatical foreign despots.

Better yet, if these despots can be inflated into far greater threats than they actually are, these supposed threats can be used to justify the enormous financial and human costs of maintaining American armed forces in that volatile region to protect ourselves and our allies, and even to make war against far-off nations in "self-defense."

Such inflated threats also have the added bonus of silencing critics of America's overly-militarized Middle East policy, since anyone who dares to challenge the hyperbole and exaggerated claims regarding these leaders' misdeeds or to provide a more balanced and realistic assessment of the actual threat they represent can then be depicted as naive apologists for dangerous fanatics who threaten our national security.

The neocons have not been subtle about their desire for Ahmadinejad to continue playing this important role. For example, right-wing pundit Daniel Pipes, at a panel discussion at the Heritage Foundation just before the election, said that he would vote for Ahmadinejad if he could, because he prefers "an enemy who is forthright, blatant, obvious."

Last Wednesday, Congressional Republicans -- in an apparent effort to enhance the chances of Iranian hard liners just two days before the election -- tried to push for a floor vote to strengthen sanctions against Iran.

It is interesting how some of the very foreign policy hawks who just days ago were dismissing Mir Hossein Mousavi's expected victory as irrelevant since, in their view, there was essentially no meaningful difference between him and Ahmadinejad, are now among the most self-righteous in denouncing the apparent fraud and outspoken in their pseudo-outrage at the rigged results.

Their worst-case scenario would be a nonviolent insurrection that would topple Ahmadinejad and allied hard-line clerics comparable to those that followed attempts to steal elections in such countries as the Philippines and Serbia. Neither the neocons nor Iran's reactionary leadership want to see that oil-rich regional power under a popular and legitimate government. Indeed, the neocons and Iranian hard-liners need each other.

The Impact on Relations with the United States

In one sense, there really are not huge differences between the two leading candidates in last Friday's Iranian presidential election on key foreign policy issues that most concern the United States.

For example, virtually all leading Iranian political figures, including Mousavi, defend what they consider to be Iran's right to engage in nuclear enrichment and other aspects of the country's thus-far civilian nuclear program.

More critically, the president is far from being the most powerful figure in Iranian politics, particularly on foreign policy issues.

Furthermore, as outrageous and offensive as Ahmadinejad's comments regarding Israel and the Holocaust may be, the Iranian president is not commander-in-chief of the armed forces, so Ahmadinejad would be incapable of ordering an attack on Israel even if Iran had the means to do so.

Though the clerics who really do wield power certainly take hard-line positions on a number of policy areas, collective leadership normally mitigates impulsive actions such as launching a war of aggression, especially if your enemy has a massive nuclear-deterrent capability that could obliterate your country in less than 15 minutes. Indeed, bold and risky policies rarely come out of committees.

Similarly, there is little difference between the two presidential front-runners regarding Iraq and Afghanistan either, since there is a broad consensus that Iran has a right to support allied elements and to marginalize potentially hostile elements in these two bordering countries.

And, despite Ahmadinejad's hostile rhetoric regarding Israel, Iran is on record supporting the Islamic Conference in endorsing the Arab League's peace plan calling for normal relations and non-aggression toward Israel in return for Israeli withdrawal from Arab territories seized in the June 1967 war.


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Stephen Zunes is a professor of politics and chairman of Middle Eastern studies at the University of San Francisco and serves as a senior policy analyst for Foreign Policy in Focus.

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"Why U.S. Neocons Want Ahmadinejad to Win"
Posted by: xvictor on Jun 17, 2009 5:14 AM   
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Birds of a feather.....

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Neo-con Madness
Posted by: Tom Degan on Jun 17, 2009 5:35 AM   
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Although I have to say that I am just a tad disappointed in Obama's direction thus far, I have to concede that he has handled the Iran situation superbly.

Listening to the right wing bloviators, shaking their collective fists and crying that he has not taken a more hawkish stance, is amusing and terrifying all-at-once.

Please, when you go to bed tonight, get down on your knees and thank God for Sarah Palin. But for her presence on the ticket, these people would still be in power.

[PROLONGED SIGH OF RELIEF]

Dave 'n' Sarah: An American Saga

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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There's a similar dynamic domestically
Posted by: sausage on Jun 17, 2009 5:52 AM   
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Neocons need foreign bogymen just the same as:

NARL needs anti-abortion wackos;

NRA needs gun-control ninnies;

NOW needs Phyllis Schlafly;

Lou Dobbs needs illegal immigrants...

and on it goes.

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They want him to win....
Posted by: cmaukonen on Jun 17, 2009 6:47 AM   
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because they are exactly alike and they speak to the same type of people. Uneducated or under educated, religious and self righteous...who despise those who are not like them. It's a perfect marriage.

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» RE: They want him to win.... Posted by: aonghus36
War on Iran
Posted by: colinsyme on Jun 17, 2009 7:47 AM   
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The sight of hundreds of thousands people, who look like regular guys and women demonstating against the result outcome of the election is going to make the "reasons" for war against lran impossible to sell to the world. We know now that any civillian deaths in such an adventure would include these people. The only countries who would side with the US would be China and Burma, and any other dictatorship who fear uprisings and who have no time for those who wish to be part of the modern world. Conservative/Neocoms fall into that category and thats why they want the status-quo to continue, Iran ruled by moderates? an unthinkable disaster for them.

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Imperialism is over...
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Jun 17, 2009 9:00 AM   
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It is an oxymoron that those that slithered out of VietNam are generally the loudest at sending other peoples children into these needless wars of American Imperialism! What's also amusing (not haha) is that many of these "blathering heads" haven't lived for any length of time outside of the US, and haven't had any serious significant conversations with some of the Middle Eastern immigrants to the US from those countries!

Maybe, these warmongers should stop, stop viewing other countries for how much can be pillaged for "US" interests, stop looking at foreign leaders by how much they allow the US to screw their citizens (via cheap labor, environmental standards, etc.), stop thinking that every other nation in the world is "jealous" of America, and most of all stop viewing other leaders as though they should emulate "US leadership"! Let's try the novel concept of dealing with each country on it's own and develop a relationship on honesty, and mutual interests!

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A few thoughts
Posted by: willymack on Jun 17, 2009 10:25 AM   
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1. Elections ANYWHERE outside the US are none of our business.
2. Sermonizing or moralizing over possible election irregulariries in other nations is hypocrisy in the extreme. Have you already forgotten 2000 and 2004 right here in the USA?
3. The talking heads on TV and the radio all seem to ask the basic question: "What now? What do we do about it?" If we have any sense, we won't do a goddam thing, you dipshits.

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» RE: A few thoughts Posted by: mutex
Yah got it backwards!
Posted by: Lloydmillerus on Jun 17, 2009 10:38 AM   
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The NeoCons are pressing Obama to SUPPORT the revolution in Iran because it could result in a more moderate regime!

Obama is TEPID in his support for the revolution because he COMMITTED to appeasing the SUPREME AYATOLLA!

Wake-up folks! You are delusional!

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» RE: Yah got it backwards! Posted by: Cybershaman
WAS the election "stolen"??
Posted by: -matti on Jun 17, 2009 12:57 PM   
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Yet another article discussing the possible implications of Iran's "stolen" election, yet another attempt to shove this election "theft" in a foriegn sovereign State into "domestic" U.S. political disputes, and still, STILL, no friggin' evidence that the election was actually "stolen" in the first place!!

I haven't even seen any plausible suggestions of how the alledged fraud went down, have you? The best the Seattle Times could come up with was a rumor that "millions of paper ballots" had been "counted in hours". This only becomes a hint a fraud if you take the total corruption and incompotence of U.S. election officials and the total greedy stupidity of U.S. vote making and counting systems as the universal norm.

I mean, come-the-hell-on already people!

Just because our system sucks doesn't mean other peoples' systems do.

What were these "paper ballots" like? Did they have just three big squares to "x-off" for each of the candidates? Or perhaps the same for a "party-line vote"? In these cases the ballots would be rather easy to count wouldn't they? According to some quick calculations on my part, if 10,000 vote counters were to count just three ballots a minute (which would be easy with a simple ballot) they would together count 1.8 million votes per hour, or "millions" in "hours".

This is not in anyway unprecedented BTW, I remember a Canadian election not too long ago where the vote -all paper ballot- was hand tabulated in 14 hours, or at a rate of just over 1 million per hour.

And this is the best "evidence" I have seen in the media for fraud in Iran!

Another question we should ask ourselves is who would be stupid enough to fraud themselves a landslide victory?!? Wouldn't you go with a close result as in 2000 and 2004 in the U.S.? Surely people would notice the 20 -40% percentage point swing that most western pollsters and the opposition are alledging happened as fraud? Surely it would cause a more general uprising than the current one of students and intellectuals in Tehran? Isn't it possible that these groups ignored the rural vote which backed the incumbant, just as he and the mullahs are saying?

This election was going to be called a fraud if the outcome was anything other than that desired by the U.S. government and other "western". This was the plan from the get go. It has happened before in other places.

To swallow this B.S. without even a minimum of skepticism or critical thought is just pathetic.

Help me out, what is this site "alternative" to again?

-matti.

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US always prefers dictators
Posted by: GuyCybershy on Jun 17, 2009 2:58 PM   
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The US has always opposed peacful democratic change in its domains, and this is no exception. A democratic revolution in the middle east would have dire consequences for US interests. Can you imagine if this happened in Egypt?

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It is highly unlikely that Stephen Zunes KNOWS who won the election.
Posted by: mutex on Jun 17, 2009 5:17 PM   
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I agree with other posters here that the Iranian election is NONE of our business. U.S. meddling in the affairs of other countries has absolutely nothing to do with 'freedom and democracy' and everything to do with hegemony.

The idea that Obama is substantially different from Bush or that the Democrats are substantially different from the Republicans, especially when it comes to foreign policy, is ludicrous!

I could easily cite a long list of campaign promises that Obama has broken but I will instead focus on one simple issue. How can even one single individual be imprisoned for life without a trial under the order of the President of the United States? We are either a nation of laws or everything we supposedly stand for is a fraud and deception.

The idea that a different Iranian leader would lead to the U.S. ending its drive for dominance in the Middle East, and around the world, is beyond naive. Read some history. The American Empire didn't begin with Bush and it certainly isn't going to end with Obama.

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Zunes seemed right on about the US need for plausible enemies,
Posted by: whealeydj on Jun 17, 2009 7:56 PM   
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if Libyan dictator starts behaving himself and Saddam Hussein is overthrown, then the threat of Syria and Iraq must be built up and replacing a relative reformer with loudmouth nutjob in Iran was helpful. In the end I hope Mousavi does lead Iran and Obama can come to some diplomatic agreement with Iran. Obama has been pretty good on Iran so far.

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This article couldn't be more wrong
Posted by: Erik1968 on Jun 18, 2009 12:55 AM   
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Do you know what neoconservatives like, more than anything else? Economic liberals. Mr. Mousavi ran on a platform of privatization and fiscal conservatism. Ahmadinejad is an economic populist and his economic policies are far to the left of the current American Democratic party.

This is a classic "color revolution," or "velvet revolution." A "soft coup," as Chavez would put it. Economic liberal wins election. Then losers allege fraud. Losers take to streets and shame victors into stepping down. Some "democracy."

I find it the height of irony that our author specifically mentions Iran-Contra without knowing that Mousavi was a key figure in the arms for hostages deal. You know, the one with Elliot Abrams, et al. The neoconservatives who you are railing against.

The Washington post had a fascinating op-ed from pollsters who found Ahmadinejad leading by a wider margin than the results before the election. Nate Silver at 538.com keeps looking for a smoking gun, but can't find one.

You say, "It is highly unlikely that Ahmadinejad actually won the majority of the vote in Friday's Iranian election, certainly not the 63 percent granted to him by the Interior Ministry he controls." Based on what, exactly? there is plenty of evidence that he did, in fact, win 63 percent.

I realize that Iran's wealthy cosmopolitan students did not want Ahmadinejad to win. That doesn't mean that he didn't win.

Please, someone at alternet, uncover the truth. This is a classic neo-con bag job. Mousavi LOST. He is not a democratic hero, he is a terrorist and a radical economic liberal. He's a bad guy, not a good guy.

Now, Ahmadinejad might be a bad guy, too. But he won the election. That's how democracy works.

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Also, regarding the "twitter revolution"
Posted by: Erik1968 on Jun 18, 2009 12:57 AM   
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Only 1/3 of Iranians even have internet access. Wake up, people.

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good article
Posted by: grangersmith on Jun 20, 2009 10:59 PM   
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Your analysis, which you more than support with facts is a breath of fresh air...I worry about free open media, it's so very important...I want to send money to help support Alternet, but can't pay my own bills...Nice article, Thank you

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Who was that fella that won a democratic election in Iran that we overthrew and put in the Shaw
Posted by: RR#1 on Jun 21, 2009 7:21 PM   
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some socialist guy wasn't he?
Cheers,
RR

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forget neocons - email Ahmadinejad!!!
Posted by: MarkinBoston on Jun 26, 2009 6:21 PM   
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To contact Ahmadinejad DIRECTLY, please go to:

www.president.ir/
click on English, when the next page opens,
from menu on left side of page,
click on Mail to President

Please be sure to complete ALL the steps, and confirm the email, or it will not go!

Tell Ahmadinejad what you think of the post election repression and brutality

PLEASE COPY AND POST EVERYWHERE, PLEASE SEND TO YOUR FRIENDS. THANKS. Mark in Boston

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