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5 Key Fights We Face Against the Insurance Industry in the Push for Better Health Care
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Last week, after almost a year of tumult, the final act of the health care reform drama began as House Democrats unveiled their final legislative package, and Senate Majority leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., challenged conservative Democrats in the upper house to fall in line by promising to bring a bill with a public health insurance option to the Senate floor.
In the House, the ball's rolling. Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., is confident the bill worked out by her caucus will pass now that she has made some steep concessions to conservative Blue Dog Democrats (irking progressive lawmakers and health reform activists). Final touches are being put on the legislation, and it may come up for a vote as early as this week.
Although it's far from certain that Reid has the votes to pass his bill, which is yet to be finalized, the announcement moves us closer to getting a plan with a public option out of both the Senate and the House.
There's rare momentum to finally bring some sanity to our fractured health care finance system. That offers an opportunity to create a real shift in the balance between public and for-profit health care in this country, something that has largely eluded progressive health care activists since the 1960s.
But within the Democrats' "Big Tent," an incredibly significant game of chicken is being played.
While the corporate media pays rapt attention to those "moderate" Dems who have threatened to join Republicans in blocking the creation of some kind of public insurance option (in spite of the fact that a majority of Americans and most Democratic voters support it), they represent just one side of the divide that congressional leaders have to bridge.
Their opponents, rushing toward them head-on, are a bloc of House progressives who have vowed to vote down any bill that doesn't contain a "robust" public option.
Whether both sides will stay the course and blow up the Democrats' majorities in a spectacular collision, and if not which side will swerve first, will depend to some degree on the pressure put on lawmakers.
In the final push, it will be the energy of activists -- or lack thereof -- that helps determine the shape of reform.
Yet, most progressive reformers have long favored a national single-payer health care system. Throughout the legislative process, they have faced a choice: either jump on a moment of rare opportunity and support a proposal that while compromised, and perhaps deeply so, would bring significant new regulation to the out-of-control health insurance market and, more importantly, extend affordable coverage to millions who now lack it, or they could hope for a better day for reform in the future and oppose the final product, leaving a disastrous status quo to stand untouched.
So as the legislation is completed, the question is: How much should champions of substantive reform concede to the Blue Dogs -- or the odd moderate Republican like Maine's Olympia Snowe -- to get a bill passed that does some real-world good in the midst of a serious crisis?
For most reform activists, it's not an easy question to answer, in large part because the devil is in the often-mind-numbing policy details. There are many, and how they all get hammered out will determine if this reform effort is worth supporting -- whether it's a crucial incremental step on a path toward a less-perverse health care delivery system, or merely a bailout for an employer-based insurance industry with a business model looking increasingly shaky over the long term.
Keeping the Reform in "Reform"
The reform package Reid will try to bring to the Senate floor -- a "compromise" approach that takes elements from the more progressive legislation passed out of the Health Education Labor and Pensions committee and the industry-friendly, and markedly flawed, approach adopted by the Finance Committee -- is still being cobbled together. He sent a number of alternative measures to the Congressional Budget Office for cost estimates.
But we know what was in the bills passed by the two Senate committees with jurisdiction and in the House bill released last week. With leaks about what approach Reid favors filtering through the press, the broad shape of the Democrats' final approach is coming into sharper focus.
All of the proposals before Congress expand the number of insured by creating regional insurance "gateways" through which people who currently lack access to decent and relatively affordable health insurance on the job will be able to purchase a plan, and those plans will offer a standard set of relatively comprehensive minimal benefits.
They all require most individuals to carry insurance and provide subsidies for those who couldn't otherwise afford it to buy insurance through the "gateways." All require employers who don't contribute to their workers' health costs to help pick up the burden.
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Posted by: mmckinl on Nov 3, 2009 12:51 AM
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So they kill it ... If that is what it takes to send law makers back to their districts to face the music, then so be it. If that is what it takes to stop Obama from walking all over the people that elected him ... Then so be it ...
A Health Care Bill that ends up costing more money and more jobs is NO victory. It is the beginning of another decade or more of Health Care Hell.
The failure will be at Obama's Door ... Throughout this process Obama has been the skunk at the party. Raising his tail every time real progress was achievable to scuttle progressive momentum towards real reform.
The Progressive Caucus should draw the line: Robust or Bust ...
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Posted by: patmcclung on Nov 3, 2009 2:26 AM
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Nov 3, 2009 2:42 AM
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Amen. Hard to believe most progressives voted for this flamer.
Despite appearances, the Democratic Party is dead. I watched it die during the primaries, when the favorite technique of Obama's fans was to call their fellow Democrats racists.
Hating ACORN
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Posted by: weightman on Nov 3, 2009 4:55 AM
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It's a mirage. A lie. A scam to deliver a captive market to the insurance companies to increase their profits. Not to improve healthcare.
It screws women. Again.
We asked Obama and Congress to craft legislation reflecting our belief healthcare is a human right. They return legislation making it unlawful not to purchase insurance from an industry which rations care based on economic class, race, gender and age, regardless of wether or not we actually get the service we need. It's health insurance reform, not healthcare reform.
That's.....Progressive.....I guess..........................
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» Right, insurer's won't cover birth control; mandates=less pocket $ to pay out of pocket
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» Are IVF, fertility treatments covered?- anybody know?
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Posted by: beachcomberT on Nov 3, 2009 4:55 AM
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Posted by: Lucidity on Nov 3, 2009 6:22 AM
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Posted by: smf1403 on Nov 3, 2009 6:56 AM
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It is FOR the elitists, BY the elitists.
Sorry, Joshua, but your lengthy diatribe helps no one.
The "health reform" scam by Obama and Congress always was intended to help their contributors -the health insurance industry.
VOTE THEM ALL OUT OF OFFICE EXCEPT FOR THOSE WHO VOTE FOR SINGLE-PAYER HEALTH CARE AND AGAINST WAR AND WELFARE FOR THE RICH.
DENNIS KUCINICH 2012.
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Posted by: drricklippin on Nov 3, 2009 8:25 AM
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Thanks for your timely summary on US Health Care reform. Just learned that House bills go to floor this week.
I personally boiled down my fundamental take this way-
NO NATION THAT PROFESSES TO BE CIVIL OR MORAL WOULD NOT AT LEAST PROVIDE FOR BASIC HEALTH CARE FOR ALL OF IT'S CITIZENS
Why the US is so far behind in recognizing that reality puzzles me? All I can think of is that we are a young nation- still growing up?
Also our new young President is on the line here. He had better get passionate again.
Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
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Posted by: Blueprelude on Nov 3, 2009 9:32 AM
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It would be better to torpedo all of these bills and start over again with a true debate over the merits of single payer, which is what most people really want.
Anything else is just a giftwrapped present to the insurance companies. If any of this garbage passes, Americans will suffer much longer until we finally have had enough and single payer finally becomes a reality.
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Posted by: greenferret on Nov 3, 2009 11:08 AM
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Medicare for all, also known as single payer healthcare, is favored by a majority of Americans.
How can we convince Congress to enact what the people want?
Tell your members of Congress that unless they support Medicare for all, you won't support them.
Take the Medicare For All Pledge now.
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Posted by: lmgoodmann on Nov 3, 2009 6:37 PM
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Furthermore, market based solutions are a conservative idea.
Health Care is a commonwealth infrastructure issue. Health Care is defined by the United Nations as a basic human right. Health Care is not a commodity that government sells. Only the government can guarantee rights.
The market can not provide or guarantee rights. If it could, we would have empirical data showing private mercenaries are better than our government military. Our police and fire protection would also be subjected to "Market Solutions". Of course this is all folly. There is absolutely zero empirical data that shows the market can provide and/or guarantee human rights.
The logic of the current legislation is flagrantly flawed. First our elected officials tell us the insurance industry is too powerful to fight in the political arena. So what leads us to believe the government can compete with the Insurance companies in the "Insurance Market". The government entity will have advertise to get customers. The Insurance Industry will have the whole right wing noise machine at it's disposal. On top of it, the government entity will have to adsorb the highest risk customers. That's the business plan?
Single-Payer guaranteed Health Care is the only valid Health Care reform. HR 676 is still only federal Health Care bill. The current legislation is a conservative think tank canard.
The democrats will usher in a conservative sweep as swing voters are faced with 2 parties both offering market based solutions. Swing voters will choose to vote for the traditional business party.
The President has recognized the Insurance industry is big enough to provide basic commonwealth infrastructure. The Presidents duty therefore is, to enforce the anti-trust laws and break up the illegal insurance racket. The US Attorney's should file criminal negligence charges combined in to a full blown RICO indictment.
Once the government uses the Justice department to obtain justice, the legislative process can start again. Let's pass the legislation we know will work, HR 676 Single Payer.
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Posted by: mmckinl on Nov 3, 2009 12:51 AM
Current rating: 4 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
So they kill it ... If that is what it takes to send law makers back to their districts to face the music, then so be it. If that is what it takes to stop Obama from walking all over the people that elected him ... Then so be it ...
A Health Care Bill that ends up costing more money and more jobs is NO victory. It is the beginning of another decade or more of Health Care Hell.
The failure will be at Obama's Door ... Throughout this process Obama has been the skunk at the party. Raising his tail every time real progress was achievable to scuttle progressive momentum towards real reform.
The Progressive Caucus should draw the line: Robust or Bust ...
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» RE: obust or Bust ... Progressives Need to Stand Their Ground
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» Dreaming - They Already Cut Their Deal with WH
Posted by: ChicagoWay
» Progressive Caucus? LOL!
Posted by: mmckinl
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Posted by: patmcclung on Nov 3, 2009 2:26 AM
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» I assume you won't be one of the ones suffering from...
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» RE: Government Never Does Anything Right
Posted by: kettleblack
» Quit asset testing Medicaid- help people who own cars, houses
Posted by: plantland
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Nov 3, 2009 2:42 AM
Current rating: 4 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Amen. Hard to believe most progressives voted for this flamer.
Despite appearances, the Democratic Party is dead. I watched it die during the primaries, when the favorite technique of Obama's fans was to call their fellow Democrats racists.
Hating ACORN
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Posted by: weightman on Nov 3, 2009 4:55 AM
Current rating: 4 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It's a mirage. A lie. A scam to deliver a captive market to the insurance companies to increase their profits. Not to improve healthcare.
It screws women. Again.
We asked Obama and Congress to craft legislation reflecting our belief healthcare is a human right. They return legislation making it unlawful not to purchase insurance from an industry which rations care based on economic class, race, gender and age, regardless of wether or not we actually get the service we need. It's health insurance reform, not healthcare reform.
That's.....Progressive.....I guess..........................
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» RE: Health Insurance Industry Plan
Posted by: kettleblack
» Right, insurer's won't cover birth control; mandates=less pocket $ to pay out of pocket
Posted by: plantland
» Are IVF, fertility treatments covered?- anybody know?
Posted by: plantland
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Posted by: beachcomberT on Nov 3, 2009 4:55 AM
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Posted by: Lucidity on Nov 3, 2009 6:22 AM
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Posted by: smf1403 on Nov 3, 2009 6:56 AM
Current rating: 4 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It is FOR the elitists, BY the elitists.
Sorry, Joshua, but your lengthy diatribe helps no one.
The "health reform" scam by Obama and Congress always was intended to help their contributors -the health insurance industry.
VOTE THEM ALL OUT OF OFFICE EXCEPT FOR THOSE WHO VOTE FOR SINGLE-PAYER HEALTH CARE AND AGAINST WAR AND WELFARE FOR THE RICH.
DENNIS KUCINICH 2012.
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Posted by: drricklippin on Nov 3, 2009 8:25 AM
Current rating: 5 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Thanks for your timely summary on US Health Care reform. Just learned that House bills go to floor this week.
I personally boiled down my fundamental take this way-
NO NATION THAT PROFESSES TO BE CIVIL OR MORAL WOULD NOT AT LEAST PROVIDE FOR BASIC HEALTH CARE FOR ALL OF IT'S CITIZENS
Why the US is so far behind in recognizing that reality puzzles me? All I can think of is that we are a young nation- still growing up?
Also our new young President is on the line here. He had better get passionate again.
Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
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Posted by: Blueprelude on Nov 3, 2009 9:32 AM
Current rating: 5 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It would be better to torpedo all of these bills and start over again with a true debate over the merits of single payer, which is what most people really want.
Anything else is just a giftwrapped present to the insurance companies. If any of this garbage passes, Americans will suffer much longer until we finally have had enough and single payer finally becomes a reality.
[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]
» Fat lady hasn't sung
Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: Fat lady hasn't sung
Posted by: Blueprelude
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Posted by: greenferret on Nov 3, 2009 11:08 AM
Current rating: 5 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Medicare for all, also known as single payer healthcare, is favored by a majority of Americans.
How can we convince Congress to enact what the people want?
Tell your members of Congress that unless they support Medicare for all, you won't support them.
Take the Medicare For All Pledge now.
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Comments are closed-
Posted by: lmgoodmann on Nov 3, 2009 6:37 PM
Current rating: 5 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Furthermore, market based solutions are a conservative idea.
Health Care is a commonwealth infrastructure issue. Health Care is defined by the United Nations as a basic human right. Health Care is not a commodity that government sells. Only the government can guarantee rights.
The market can not provide or guarantee rights. If it could, we would have empirical data showing private mercenaries are better than our government military. Our police and fire protection would also be subjected to "Market Solutions". Of course this is all folly. There is absolutely zero empirical data that shows the market can provide and/or guarantee human rights.
The logic of the current legislation is flagrantly flawed. First our elected officials tell us the insurance industry is too powerful to fight in the political arena. So what leads us to believe the government can compete with the Insurance companies in the "Insurance Market". The government entity will have advertise to get customers. The Insurance Industry will have the whole right wing noise machine at it's disposal. On top of it, the government entity will have to adsorb the highest risk customers. That's the business plan?
Single-Payer guaranteed Health Care is the only valid Health Care reform. HR 676 is still only federal Health Care bill. The current legislation is a conservative think tank canard.
The democrats will usher in a conservative sweep as swing voters are faced with 2 parties both offering market based solutions. Swing voters will choose to vote for the traditional business party.
The President has recognized the Insurance industry is big enough to provide basic commonwealth infrastructure. The Presidents duty therefore is, to enforce the anti-trust laws and break up the illegal insurance racket. The US Attorney's should file criminal negligence charges combined in to a full blown RICO indictment.
Once the government uses the Justice department to obtain justice, the legislative process can start again. Let's pass the legislation we know will work, HR 676 Single Payer.
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