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Why Unemployment Is More Important Than Health-Care Reform
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Presidents tend to overcompensate for the errors of their predecessors in the same party and in so doing sow seeds of their own mistakes. Bill Clinton wanted above all to avoid Jimmy Carter's fate -- losing re-election because the economy was heading south on Election Day. So Clinton made a deal with Alan Greenspan to slash the budget deficit and thereby jettison much of his ambitious campaign agenda (that was Greenspan's precondition for lowering interest rates and causing an economic boom in time for the re-election) and then Clinton took direction from Dick Morris, who told him to move to the right.
The result: Clinton avoided Carter's failure and won re-election handily. But the Clinton years produced few if any major social reforms. Clinton spent so much of his initial political capital, as well as his time and energy, on deficit reduction that he didn't have enough left to enact health care in 1994.
Barack Obama came to the White House intent on not repeating Clinton's failure to enact universal health care. Did he overlearn the Clinton lesson? Obama seems to have made all the right moves to enact something he can credibly label health-care reform: Rather than spend his political capital elsewhere, he reserved most of it for health care.
I sincerely hope America gets genuine health reform and I hope it's stronger than what's emerging in the Senate. (Whoever voted for Joe Lieberman last time around ought to pray for continued good health.) I worry, though, that Obama's strategy may turn out to be a mistake comparable to Clinton's overemphasis on deficit reduction. Obama's focus on health care rather than jobs, when the economy is still so fragile and unemployment moving toward double digits, could make it appear that the administration has its priorities confused. While affordable health care is critically important to Americans, making a living is more urgent. Yet the administration's efforts to date on this more basic concern have been neither particularly visible nor coherent.
The current rate of unemployment would have been even higher were it not for the federal stimulus package, but the stimulus should have been much larger. Especially with the states still cutting back on spending and raising taxes, the federal stimulus will be barely enough to keep unemployment from hitting 11 percent by the middle of 2010. Yet as the rate of unemployment continued to rise faster and higher than the White House anticipated, Obama could not return to Congress to seek a larger stimulus. He was spending political capital on health care.
The Wall Street bailout, meanwhile, has saved Wall Street but left most regional banks in deep distress. Almost nothing has trickled down. Small businesses still can't get loans. Foreclosures continue to mount largely because jobs continue to vanish and homeowners can't pay their mortgages. Yet at this point, on the eve of a health care bill, it would be difficult for Obama to return to Congress seeking billions more to aid distressed homeowners and small businesses.
While health care reform, if done right, can help American families stay afloat in the economy, the current bills won't offer most Americans any appreciable decline in the cost of their health insurance nor clear improvement in the efficiency or quality of the health care they receive, and those who will benefit won't see the benefits until 2014 at the earliest. All this is partly a result of Obama's sharpest break from Clinton -- whose ambitious health care plan drew immediate fire from Big Pharma, the American Medical Association, and health insurers: The Obama White House bought off the medical-industrial complex by promising it fatter profits, bolstered by tens of millions of new paying customers.
That and other deals cut with industry -- including promises to Big Pharma that Medicare wouldn't use its bargaining clout to reduce drug prices, to the AMA that doctors wouldn't have to face larger cuts in Medicare reimbursement rates, and to private insurers that the White House wouldn't fight hard for a public insurance option -- are likely to make the resulting reform far more costly than it would be otherwise. These extra costs will be borne by those Americans who will be required to buy insurance but won't qualify for federal assistance, along with Medicare beneficiaries who will be paying more and receiving less. These people may not know they're indirectly paying the costs of buying off these industries, but they'll know they're getting shafted (Republicans will be sure to make them aware, even though the GOP has a much longer record of shafting the middle class for the benefit of big business).
The optimist in me says Obama can pivot off a health-care victory and launch some new initiatives that palpably and quickly spur job growth. The realist says there aren't any such initiatives -- at least none that can work fast enough to reverse the tide of unemployment before the midterm elections. Fiddles such as a new jobs tax credit can help but they won't make much of a dent. Even with a larger stimulus, a jobs recovery would still be far off. The tangible benefits of health-care reform are likely to be so elusive in the meantime that the public may become easy prey for demagogues on the right who blame Democrats for the economic insecurities that bedevil the nation next November.
If Obama and the Democrats lose one or both houses of Congress in the midterms, it will be because the president learned only the most superficial lesson of the Clinton years. Health-care reform is critically important. But when one out of six Americans is unemployed or underemployed, getting the nation back to work is more so.
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Nov 5, 2009 3:14 AM
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Sounds like a whopper to me.
Logan's Law: all undocumented statements critical of the Clintons should be taken as lies.
If it were that easy to make the economy boom, every President would make the deal at the end of his first term.
Even Obama can probably manage this, so his fans can relax.
If a deal with Greenspan was made, it was because Clinton knew he wouldn't get his "ambitious campaign agenda" passed if the economy were tanking. A small child could have told him this.
If I know the Bamanator, he'll expend his political capital while failing to achieve any of his goals. This is assuming he has any goals.
Hating ACORN
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Posted by: CLARENCE SWINNEY on Nov 5, 2009 5:45 AM
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PRAISE CLINTON--WITH PLEASURE
GDP--rose from 6300 to11,600
NATIONAL INCOME-5,000 to 8,000 Billion--
JOBS CREATED—237,00 per month to replace Jimmy Carter record of 218,000.
AVERAGE WEEKLY EARNINGS--$360 to $478
AVERAGE WEEKLY HOURS WORKED--never hit 35.0--hit that mark 4 times in 80's
UNEMPLOYMENT--from 7.2% down down down to as low as 3.9%
MINIMUM WAGE--$4.25 to $5.15
MINORITIES--did exceedingly well
HOME OWNERSHIP--hit all time high (no big deal most can say this-except Reagan)
DEFICIT--290 Billion to whoopee a SURPLUS
DEBT----+28%---300% increase over prior 12 years by Conservatives.
FEDERAL SPENDING--+28%---+80% under Reagan- who is da true conservative?
DOW JONES AVERAGE—3,500 to 11,720 top in 2000. All it's history to get to 3500 and Clinton zooms it
NASDAQ--700 to 5,000 top in 2000.---All of it's history to get to 700 and Clinton zooms it
VALUES INDEXES-- almost all bad went down--good went up in zoom zoom zoom
FOREIGN AFFAIRS--Peace on Earth good will toward each other---Mark of a true Christian--what has Bush done to Peace on Earth?
POPULARITY---highest poll ratings in history during peacetime in AFRICA, ASIA AND EUROPE . Even 98.5% in Moscow--left office with Highest Gallup rating since it was started in 1920's.
STAND UP FOR JUSTICE--evil conservatives spent $110,000,000 on hearings and investigations and caught one very evil man who took a few plane rides to events.
BOW YOUR HEADS—“Thank you God for sending us a man of Bill Clinton's character, intelligence, knowledge of governance, ability to face up to crises without whimpering and a great leader of the world. Amen”.
THANK YOU GOD FOR THE GOOD TIMES THE CLINTON YEARS.
clarence swinney-political historian-Lifeaholics of America- burlington nc
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Since we import more than we export, how can the economic picture improve?
Since small business and farming is disadvantaged by corporate control of retail and the production, purchase, and distribution of food, how will wealth be distributed to the general population rather than the continued concentration of wealth into a smaller number of the super-wealthy?
Since our debt is increasing to foreign governments, where is the power to act independently of the interests of foreign governments?
Since our federal legislators and executive branch can only run for office with the financial assistance of special interests, how will indedendent thinking and action by our so called "representatives" be possible?
Since credit is being reduced for Americans so it will be avialable for areas of the planet where the multinationals now want to encourage consumption, how can small small business regain any vitality?
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Posted by: drricklippin on Nov 5, 2009 6:29 AM
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JOBS IS "HEALTH CARE"
Only about 10% of human health outcomes has to do with the organized medicine enterprise.
We have ALL been duped and swindled into believing otherwise
But I also know that my above statement is extremely useless politically
Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
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Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Nov 5, 2009 6:30 AM
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However a well-conceived health reform could actually make health care available to all, paid for by taxes on those who can afford to pay taxes. Such a reform would actually reduce spending on health care. This country spends more of it's wealth on health care than any other country in the world, and the evidence is that it wastes proportionally more of that money than any other country does.
By insisting on maintaining employer-based funding, we will be motivating the few remaining large employers to look for ways to move operations out of the U.S. Both unemployment and health care are problems that need to be fixed and the two are interrelated. Neither can be ignored at the expense of the other. If we are to ignore some problem, let it be the headaches of the financial titans.
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when the kids overthrew the shah and tried to set up a socialist non-theocratic democracy; the US didn't like it.as it turned out, CIA had long kept khomeini safe outside of paris and they brought him in to shut down the revolution. as is famous, reagan's people told khomeini that if he would keep the hostages until after the election, reagan would back them against iraq in the upcoming iran-iraq war. khomeini trusted reagan and held the hostages, freeing them after reagan won. then, as we know, reagan betrayed that promise and backed iraq's hussein, instead.
it was the hostages debacle that lost the election for carter, and even then it was by a thin margin. carter wasn't the greatest leader, but he was a damn sight better than a brain-dead racist warmonger corporatist like reagan...
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Posted by: narguimbau@earthlink.net on Nov 5, 2009 2:03 PM
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(1) The historic lag of employment behind recovery in a recession/depression, coupled with
(2) the fact that our present dilemma is the product of 3 decades of misallocation of resources, coupled with
(3) peak oil and in fact peak eveything, coupled with
(4) the fact that without a difficult restoration of the manufacturing sector, money back in the hands of US consumers will primarilly result in increased employment in the CHINESE manufacturing sector because ours is shot, coupled with
(5) the economic reality that the Baby Boom worked for Clinton (the Boomers were at their level of peak productivity during his administration, so he could hardly have failed) but now the Boomers are creating rapidly increasing demands on the system for health care in particular), coupled with
(6) another economic reality: that it took a complete retooling of the US economy for World War II to restore employment after 1929
mean that there is NOTHING Obama could do to restore employment by mid-term, so Obama perhaps wisely insisted upon all his major policy initiatives being implemented before the mid-term elections.
There are other reasons why placing a high priority on health care at this juncture was wise even if not an easy sell. The present health care bill will cut deficits and inevitably strengthen the health of te economy as it strengthens the health of the workers, so it will place the nation in a better position than otherwise to renew the economic stimulus when, as is almost inevitable, it proves necessary.
If Obama lacks the personal savvy demonstrated by FDR in the Fireside Chats, then the progressives to substitute by explaining to the public for him that he was daalt a truly impossible hand - that the country would be ill-advised to give back its care and feeding after only 2 years to the folks who got us where we are through 3 decades of corruption and mismanagement.
Obama has in many ways been a disappointment to his supporters, but to say that he has spent too little of his political capital on restoration of employment and too much on health care, is in this reader's opinion an unwarranted cheap shot. What the New Deal decades taught us is that getting us out of our present dilemma will require a complete retooling of the economy; health care reform is a central part of that.
The question should be not whether Obama has spent too much political capital on the problem, but whether, perhaps out of inappropriate deference to the drug and insurance industries, he has spent too little.
Nick Arguimbau
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Posted by: Perry Logan on Nov 5, 2009 3:14 AM
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Sounds like a whopper to me.
Logan's Law: all undocumented statements critical of the Clintons should be taken as lies.
If it were that easy to make the economy boom, every President would make the deal at the end of his first term.
Even Obama can probably manage this, so his fans can relax.
If a deal with Greenspan was made, it was because Clinton knew he wouldn't get his "ambitious campaign agenda" passed if the economy were tanking. A small child could have told him this.
If I know the Bamanator, he'll expend his political capital while failing to achieve any of his goals. This is assuming he has any goals.
Hating ACORN
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Posted by: CLARENCE SWINNEY on Nov 5, 2009 5:45 AM
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PRAISE CLINTON--WITH PLEASURE
GDP--rose from 6300 to11,600
NATIONAL INCOME-5,000 to 8,000 Billion--
JOBS CREATED—237,00 per month to replace Jimmy Carter record of 218,000.
AVERAGE WEEKLY EARNINGS--$360 to $478
AVERAGE WEEKLY HOURS WORKED--never hit 35.0--hit that mark 4 times in 80's
UNEMPLOYMENT--from 7.2% down down down to as low as 3.9%
MINIMUM WAGE--$4.25 to $5.15
MINORITIES--did exceedingly well
HOME OWNERSHIP--hit all time high (no big deal most can say this-except Reagan)
DEFICIT--290 Billion to whoopee a SURPLUS
DEBT----+28%---300% increase over prior 12 years by Conservatives.
FEDERAL SPENDING--+28%---+80% under Reagan- who is da true conservative?
DOW JONES AVERAGE—3,500 to 11,720 top in 2000. All it's history to get to 3500 and Clinton zooms it
NASDAQ--700 to 5,000 top in 2000.---All of it's history to get to 700 and Clinton zooms it
VALUES INDEXES-- almost all bad went down--good went up in zoom zoom zoom
FOREIGN AFFAIRS--Peace on Earth good will toward each other---Mark of a true Christian--what has Bush done to Peace on Earth?
POPULARITY---highest poll ratings in history during peacetime in AFRICA, ASIA AND EUROPE . Even 98.5% in Moscow--left office with Highest Gallup rating since it was started in 1920's.
STAND UP FOR JUSTICE--evil conservatives spent $110,000,000 on hearings and investigations and caught one very evil man who took a few plane rides to events.
BOW YOUR HEADS—“Thank you God for sending us a man of Bill Clinton's character, intelligence, knowledge of governance, ability to face up to crises without whimpering and a great leader of the world. Amen”.
THANK YOU GOD FOR THE GOOD TIMES THE CLINTON YEARS.
clarence swinney-political historian-Lifeaholics of America- burlington nc
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Since we import more than we export, how can the economic picture improve?
Since small business and farming is disadvantaged by corporate control of retail and the production, purchase, and distribution of food, how will wealth be distributed to the general population rather than the continued concentration of wealth into a smaller number of the super-wealthy?
Since our debt is increasing to foreign governments, where is the power to act independently of the interests of foreign governments?
Since our federal legislators and executive branch can only run for office with the financial assistance of special interests, how will indedendent thinking and action by our so called "representatives" be possible?
Since credit is being reduced for Americans so it will be avialable for areas of the planet where the multinationals now want to encourage consumption, how can small small business regain any vitality?
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Posted by: drricklippin on Nov 5, 2009 6:29 AM
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JOBS IS "HEALTH CARE"
Only about 10% of human health outcomes has to do with the organized medicine enterprise.
We have ALL been duped and swindled into believing otherwise
But I also know that my above statement is extremely useless politically
Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
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Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Nov 5, 2009 6:30 AM
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However a well-conceived health reform could actually make health care available to all, paid for by taxes on those who can afford to pay taxes. Such a reform would actually reduce spending on health care. This country spends more of it's wealth on health care than any other country in the world, and the evidence is that it wastes proportionally more of that money than any other country does.
By insisting on maintaining employer-based funding, we will be motivating the few remaining large employers to look for ways to move operations out of the U.S. Both unemployment and health care are problems that need to be fixed and the two are interrelated. Neither can be ignored at the expense of the other. If we are to ignore some problem, let it be the headaches of the financial titans.
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when the kids overthrew the shah and tried to set up a socialist non-theocratic democracy; the US didn't like it.as it turned out, CIA had long kept khomeini safe outside of paris and they brought him in to shut down the revolution. as is famous, reagan's people told khomeini that if he would keep the hostages until after the election, reagan would back them against iraq in the upcoming iran-iraq war. khomeini trusted reagan and held the hostages, freeing them after reagan won. then, as we know, reagan betrayed that promise and backed iraq's hussein, instead.
it was the hostages debacle that lost the election for carter, and even then it was by a thin margin. carter wasn't the greatest leader, but he was a damn sight better than a brain-dead racist warmonger corporatist like reagan...
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Posted by: narguimbau@earthlink.net on Nov 5, 2009 2:03 PM
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(1) The historic lag of employment behind recovery in a recession/depression, coupled with
(2) the fact that our present dilemma is the product of 3 decades of misallocation of resources, coupled with
(3) peak oil and in fact peak eveything, coupled with
(4) the fact that without a difficult restoration of the manufacturing sector, money back in the hands of US consumers will primarilly result in increased employment in the CHINESE manufacturing sector because ours is shot, coupled with
(5) the economic reality that the Baby Boom worked for Clinton (the Boomers were at their level of peak productivity during his administration, so he could hardly have failed) but now the Boomers are creating rapidly increasing demands on the system for health care in particular), coupled with
(6) another economic reality: that it took a complete retooling of the US economy for World War II to restore employment after 1929
mean that there is NOTHING Obama could do to restore employment by mid-term, so Obama perhaps wisely insisted upon all his major policy initiatives being implemented before the mid-term elections.
There are other reasons why placing a high priority on health care at this juncture was wise even if not an easy sell. The present health care bill will cut deficits and inevitably strengthen the health of te economy as it strengthens the health of the workers, so it will place the nation in a better position than otherwise to renew the economic stimulus when, as is almost inevitable, it proves necessary.
If Obama lacks the personal savvy demonstrated by FDR in the Fireside Chats, then the progressives to substitute by explaining to the public for him that he was daalt a truly impossible hand - that the country would be ill-advised to give back its care and feeding after only 2 years to the folks who got us where we are through 3 decades of corruption and mismanagement.
Obama has in many ways been a disappointment to his supporters, but to say that he has spent too little of his political capital on restoration of employment and too much on health care, is in this reader's opinion an unwarranted cheap shot. What the New Deal decades taught us is that getting us out of our present dilemma will require a complete retooling of the economy; health care reform is a central part of that.
The question should be not whether Obama has spent too much political capital on the problem, but whether, perhaps out of inappropriate deference to the drug and insurance industries, he has spent too little.
Nick Arguimbau
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