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Not Your Father's Chamber of Commerce: National Organization Is Now a Tool of the Radical Right
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The U.S. Chamber of Commerce is often seen as an extension of the local Chambers of Commerce with which many of us grew up -- the staid, nonpartisan organizations that not only advocated for local businesses, but were also a part of the broader fabric of communities across America. They lobbied local governments, but they also promoted small towns' business districts, sponsored local parades and outfitted Little League teams.
But that image couldn't be further out of date. The organization was formed some 90 years ago to represent an umbrella group of American businesses' diverse interests. But under the leadership of Thomas J. Donahue, it has become increasingly partisan, even reactionary, in its steadfast opposition to even modestly progressive proposals in Congress, including those that are in the apparent interests of some of its member firms.
Matt Stoller noted in 2006, "the national Chamber of Commerce isn't pro-business … it's just a fully captured right-wing organization that has been taken over by the Republican Party."
What distinguishes it from other conservative lobbying shops is its massive resources; the CoC has a budget of upwards of $150 million per year, and it throws that into a wide array of affiliate organizations that influence public policy in myriad ways and at every level of government.
Given its reach and impact on our public-policy debates, the CoC has operated under the radar to some degree. But its claim to represent a consensus of American businesses -- presumably a pragmatic role, given the diversity of its members' interests -- took a hit last week with the high-profile defection of a number of major firms because of the CoC's unyielding opposition to the very moderate and distinctly business-friendly climate-change bills wending through Congress.
Such corporate heavyweights as Nike, GE and Apple -- and energy giants like Exelon and Pacific Energy and Gas -- have recently either distanced themselves from the Chamber, resigned their seats on its board of directors or quit the organization altogether in protest of what PG&E CEO Peter Darby called the CoC's "extreme position" on global warming and "disingenuous attempts to diminish or distort the reality of [the] challenges [it poses]."
Not Your Father's Chamber
The Chamber, which spends more on lobbying than any other organization in the country, has become a kind of unelected brake on the engine of progressive change -- the head of a massively influential network of deep-pocketed organizations whose essential purpose is preventing the creation of a more just society.
Which is fine with the Chamber's leadership; Donohue has lamented that democracy doesn't always serve the interests of his corporate constituents.
In 2007, lamenting Congress's failure to pass "fast-track" trade authority, Donahue said: "I've sort of come to the point that I don't blame the politicians as much as I blame their constituents."
Donahue has become Washington's most powerful advocate for corporate America, and you'd be hard pressed to find a better representative of the corporate culture that permeates our executive suites these days.
Writing of the Chamber's campaign to avoid new regulations for the financial industry in the midst of a severe recession that Wall Street's recklessness brought about, SEIU Vice President Anna Burger noted Donahue's checkered history "as a board member for companies plagued by accounting scandals, insider-trading investigations and massive shareholder losses."
In 2006, the New York Times reported that Donahue had been at the center of an insider-trading scandal uncovered by the Securities and Exchange Commission, noting that he had "been a force behind the Chamber of Commerce's efforts to defang" new accounting regulations. What's more, according to the Times, the organization had "the SEC's enforcement division in its sights; one Chamber priority is to 'curtail the SEC's overly broad authority to launch investigations.' "
A Position Too Far?
Nowhere has the Chamber's capture by the conservative movement been clearer than on the issue of global warming.
After years of pushing dubious claims designed to muddy the waters around the danger posed by man-made climate change, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce offered up its greatest whopper on the subject last week, brazenly claiming that it had never questioned the science behind calls to curtail greenhouse-gas emissions.
This just days after William Kovacs, the Chamber's senior vice president for environment, technology and regulatory affairs, embarrassingly called for a "Scopes Monkey Trial" -- fashioned after the famous clash of creationists and evolutionary biologists in the 1920s -- to bring "the science of climate change" under examination by a jury.
That was the background for last week's high-profile defections. Some of the corporations fleeing the Chamber may be acting on genuine principle, but they're also responding to basic business logic.
As Josh Marshall wrote, "It's not hard, for instance, to understand why a company like Nike, which markets overwhelmingly to a younger demographic and to some degree is in the business of marketing cool, would not like to be associated with anti-climate-change science extremism."
Earlier this year, in announcing a $100 million campaign opposing Democrats' proposals on a range of issues, including climate change, Donahue warned of the risks posed by "attacks by anti-business activists" on "America's free enterprise values."
Pete Altman, director of the National Resources Defense Council's climate campaign, noted that "Donohue left out businesses … which support federal climate legislation," listing around two dozen of the Chamber's own members that had gone on record supporting the proposals in Congress.
I fact, an NRDC analysis of the positions taken by the Chamber's board of directors reveals that opposition to climate-change legislation is hardly a consensus position among American businesses [document]:
... the staff of the U.S. Chamber is representing the views held by a small fraction of its board -- just four members out of 122 members on the board of directors. These views, which question the scientific consensus and reject the need for federal regulation to reduce global-warming pollution, stand in contrast to the views expressed by 19 members of the Chamber's board that support federal regulations with goals to reduce total U.S. global warming pollution.
Altman added: "You read that right: Only 23 members of the U.S. Chamber's board have a publicly stated position on climate change, and more than 80 percent are not on board with the U.S. Chamber's 'Dr. No' position on climate policy action."
According to a report by Josh Harkinson in Mother Jones, the Chamber's leadership, faced with a severe split among its members, may have broken its own internal guidelines in adopting its position on climate change, bypassing a required vote by its board of directors (Harkinson also disputes the Chamber's claim of 3 million member firms).
And while the Chamber's anti-scientific position on climate change may not be in the interest of all of its member firms, it does fit neatly with Donahue's.
Writing on Grist Magazine's blog, Joseph Romm (also citing the NRDC), noted that Donahue, "who is resisting calls from his own board members to stop fighting against federal climate policy, is being richly compensated by Union Pacific, a company which -- along with some of its key businesses partners -- is vigorously fighting against federal climate policy."
The railroad, a major coal hauler, has said [PDF] that climate-change legislation could "reduce the amount of traffic we handle and have a material adverse effect on our results of operations, financial condition, and liquidity." Union Pacific has paid Donahue annual retainers of at least $1,134,333 since 1998, according to the NRDC.
Given that a majority of Americans believe climate change is indeed a threat, that the government should indeed regulate greenhouse-gas emissions and that most support the broad outlines of the "cap-and-trade" bills working through Congress -- even if it means slightly higher energy bills -- the Chamber's stance is an example of it fighting against the interests of not only a share of its member firms, but of the lion's share of those firms' employees and customers.
All of which belies the image many still hold of the Chamber as a boring, more or less non-ideological and wholly nonpartisan business association.
While it once fit that description, it has since been co-opted by a more staunchly conservative leadership and swayed by a conservative movement that has become more animated and reactionary in recent decades. It is no longer an extension of your town's local Chamber, it is a vital cog in the conservative noise machine.
And as the Nikes and Apples jump ship, it may prove to be the Chamber's stance on climate change that proves to be the beginning of the end of its creditability as a non-ideological entity.
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Posted by: mmckinl on Oct 15, 2009 12:32 AM
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If the U.S. indeed had single payer would Chrysler and GM be in bankruptcy ... probably not. It was the car makers legacy costs that cost them so dearly.
GM was rightly described as an HMO that built cars. Their cost overhead drove them to produce huge gas guzzling SUVs because that was where they could make enough profit to offset these costs. They had to abandon the low margin small car market.
Industry by industry The Chamber has been driving production overseas by pushing laws for favorable tax treatments that actually pay producers to relocate abroad!
The Chambers all out lobbying for "free trade" has left America naked for the theft of its industry, its markets national and international and the high value jobs that once produced these goods.
The Chamber has also, as Josh noted, been the best friend of the banksters both before and after the financial cataclysm of 2008-9. Worse they aide and abet the world's biggest heist; the ongoing fraud and thievery of trillions of tax payer dollars by the banksters at the expense of all their other members whose markets are crippled and customers bankrupted.
The COC is truly a Chamber of Horrors. The Chamber is the epitome of just about everything that is going wrong with this country, our economy and our governance and Thomas J. Donahue is the poster child for the conspiracy of this organizational malevolence of greed and fraud.
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Posted by: notabilia on Oct 15, 2009 2:20 AM
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When did such Ken Burnsian whitewash of American history become Alternet's default liberal propaganda?
Let's see, all through the McCarthy era, the neo-slavery era, the massive transfer of wealth from workers to elite financial criminals, Vietnam, Watergate, the construction of global empire and bantustans in the American inner cities, there was the US Chamber of Commerce, nice and kindly and not offensive with its representation of Business, money, development.
Are you kidding me? This is all a continuation, my friend, an amplification. If you look back for some kind of golden era in America, you will be deluded, and you might as well move back in with your parents.
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» I Must Agree-Nonsense!
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Posted by: debocracy on Oct 15, 2009 2:24 AM
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The Powell Memorandum explains why the U$A has become the laughingstock of the civilized world. Assholes are in charge here. Lewis F. Powell, a Supreme Court Justice, wrote it up after a few beers with his neighbor, the President of the US Chamber of Commerce.
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» Behold... Bushlandia. Or, CoClandia?
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Oct 15, 2009 2:56 AM
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FYI moron, those constituents are not only voters and taxpayers, but Customers.
This tactic was used during a recent Hospital millage vote. Numerous business had huge signs against the minute tax increase to retain a local hospitals neo natal ICU, a Burn Unit and Senior care services. I no longer shop at ANY of these business who had those oppositon signs out front.
those Neo Natals are YOUR customers new born children. Those Burn victims are their spouses. Those seniors- their parents.
What once was a Sign of Community mindedness should now be considered a plaque indicatings apathy towards their community and their customers- Self Serving Greed!
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» RE: "Constitutents" are CUSTOMERS!!!!
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» Corporations are all the same.
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Posted by: cd348 on Oct 15, 2009 4:01 AM
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Posted by: GuitarBill on Oct 15, 2009 4:26 AM
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Double-dealing business owners also understand that it's to their advantage to organize in their efforts to defeat worker organizing and unionization. That's why a majority of American businesses belong to their own union. It's called the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
So what happened to The Employee Free Choice Act?
The Chamber of Commerce amassed a multi-million-dollar war chest to disseminate anti-labor propaganda and pay for lobbying Congress to defeat the Employee Free Choice Act--and guess what, they won.
Source: US Chamber of Commerce: Challenging the Unions' Anti-Growth Agenda.
Did you know that "Big Labor’s Agenda Is Bad for U.S. Workers and the Economy"? Or that "Unions Are Pushing an Agenda That Interferes With the Way Businesses Work"? Are you aware that the US Chamber of Commerce intends to save America by "Standing Up to Labor—Stopping Card Check Legislation and Other Bad Policies"?
No?
Then you don't read enough US Chamber of Commerce propaganda.
%^)
Not to worry, because they own the US news media and the Congress.
Now, go back to sleep and spew idiotic international Jewish conspiracy theories, while the US Chamber of Commerce continues to exercise stealth dictatorial control of the US Congress.
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» Please, not a UNION rather a group of fascist fraternity pranksters.
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Posted by: McGovern72! on Oct 15, 2009 4:45 AM
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» Uh, "Blue Dog Democrats" are not Democrats
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» Good point. Republi-lite should be a good name to term them.
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 15, 2009 6:19 AM
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The Global Warming Cult that has got its Tentacles deeply entrenched into both The World's Media and The World's Governments opposses any Open Scientific Debate, because it would reveal their Gross Scientific Fraud. Scientific Fraud is at Least as Bad as Financial Fraud and Should Be Prosecuted.
The Political Position of The US Chamber of Commerce is Irrelevant.
The are asking for a SCIENTIFIC Debate, not a Religious or Political Argument.
Tony
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» Guess where you got that information? From the Chamber of Commerce!
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» RE: Guess where you got that information? From the Chamber of Commerce!
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» "Open debate"? The US Chamber of Commerce advocates "open debate"? LOL!
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» RE: "Open debate"? The US Chamber of Commerce advocates "open debate"? LOL!
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» Boxcutter Bill, you are being uncharacteristically uncharitable towards your masters.
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» RE: Geez! OK, what about environmental POISONING???
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Posted by: sliver on Oct 15, 2009 6:28 AM
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Just send this article to your local chamber, and see if it makes them start to talk about it there.
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» Also, Spitzer's plan: call your state's pension fund
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Posted by: Bozwell on Oct 15, 2009 6:29 AM
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Posted by: ETSpoon on Oct 15, 2009 7:11 AM
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I mean, hell, the Chamber hired me.
Anyway I started training in Marshalltown, Iowa, at that time a small Midwestern city that relied on unionized industries Lennox Industries and Marshalltown Tools mainly. The pitch I was taught was "unions are bad for business!"
So on the first day I was cut loose from my trainer, a "born-again" Christian, I walk into an optometrist's office and begin my spiel, emphasizing the "unions are bad for business" bullshit. The optometrist very nicely lectured me on the fact that the majority of his patients were union members and their families.
Being raised in a union household I had to agree with the optometrist and quite the Chamber the next day.
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Posted by: americansheep on Oct 15, 2009 8:12 AM
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Posted by: drricklippin on Oct 15, 2009 8:41 AM
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There is nothing inherently wrong with promoting "commerce" per se but when the excesses of commerce cause harm they must self/auto adapt(ha)or be regulated/required to adapt.
So to me it's all about cyclicality and excess and ultimately about self destruction
Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
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» You suggest that commerce has an adaptive characteristic, tell that to an American Indian.
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» Of Course "Commerce" Can Adapt- But it Can Also Self Destruct!
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» new regulatory agency
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Posted by: willymack on Oct 15, 2009 9:12 AM
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Businesses close ranks, using the chamber for support, whenever a complaint of this or that abuse, fraud, or outright theft, from any business comes to light.
The "better" business bureau is pretty much the same; better for business, and to hell with the consumer.
As mentioned above, just look at the C of C's stand on HR676, or anything else representing a dimunition of the bottom line, and in favor of the PEOPLE.
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» RE: Chamber, schmamber
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Posted by: EmilyCragg on Oct 15, 2009 11:58 AM
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And right now, this is the case. Corporate ELITES are stampeding over everybody else, without regard to the environment, social issues or the human families that incubate corporate creativity and skills.
Hitler rules, even now.
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Posted by: Higher Reptile on Oct 15, 2009 11:59 AM
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Our Cheap Politicians
http://www.counterpunch.org/andrew10152009.html
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Posted by: FreeAmerica on Oct 16, 2009 7:45 AM
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Since the chamber's mission is to promote member businesses and interests, naturally they will be opposed to the liberal position.
Between all of the taxes, the bullshit global warming scam, the health care scam, devaluing the American currency, running the uS into crippling debt, using environmental regs to push business to China where they are free to pollute, obviously progressives are anti-business, anti-capitalist, and anti-prosperity. Naturally the pro-business chamber will be opposed to the liberal position.
It is realy simple. American business as represented by the chamber doesn't want the American prosperity crippling stupidity of the demoncrats. The chamber is simply doing it's job.
Naturally the Pavlovian left attacks what doesn't agree with them, and here we are.
As far as a trial for global warming, studied skeptics such as myself have been asking for this for almost a decade. The globull warmers won't show up to defend their prosperity crippling stupidity that time has proven again and again wrong.
The closest we got so far is when a court in the UK declared that gore's propaganda piece was filled with inaccuracies. Gore won't debate, Hansen won't debate, and sites like realclimate censor their comments to avoid any debate.
It is no surprise that the left has put out the word to grouphate the chamber. They are polar opposites in their philosophies. The only thing to see now is how far the fascists on the left go to force their will on everyone. Big Brother has spoken. Go grouphate the chamber.
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Posted by: fredtowson on Oct 16, 2009 10:20 AM
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The Chamber has also, as Josh noted, been the best friend of the banksters both before and after the financial cataclysm of 2008-9. Worse they aide and abet the world's biggest heist; the ongoing fraud and thievery of trillions of tax payer dollars by the the vampire diaries tv show posters the vampire diaries posters private practice s03e03 hdtv.xvid-2hd english subtitles субтитры к сериалам субтитры к шоу seropol5 banksters at the expense of all their other members whose markets are crippled and customers bankrupted.
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Posted by: Prinzowhales on Oct 16, 2009 10:31 AM
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Goldman Sachs is giving record bonuses...and, I must say, they've done a wonderful job for the Corporatists...the biggest backers of our Nobel winning Prez' were from GS...they should get a plaque from their local Chamber...for national service...a nice bronze plaque for all they've done for America--with the help of the dumb animals who vote for mainstream Democrats and Republicans, of course. Trillions for Goldman Sachs! Homelessness and Unemployment for the people who voted for you! Well done, Obama!
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» Your assertion is pure nonsense
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Posted by: ChicagoWay on Oct 16, 2009 10:41 AM
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The nation's largest small business association, The National Federation of Independent Business, memberbership vote 80% plus republican. Small and mid-size business make the Chamber and big business look liberal in comparison :)
http://www.nfib.com/
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Posted by: donotworry on Oct 21, 2009 8:09 AM
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Posted by: mmckinl on Oct 15, 2009 12:32 AM
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If the U.S. indeed had single payer would Chrysler and GM be in bankruptcy ... probably not. It was the car makers legacy costs that cost them so dearly.
GM was rightly described as an HMO that built cars. Their cost overhead drove them to produce huge gas guzzling SUVs because that was where they could make enough profit to offset these costs. They had to abandon the low margin small car market.
Industry by industry The Chamber has been driving production overseas by pushing laws for favorable tax treatments that actually pay producers to relocate abroad!
The Chambers all out lobbying for "free trade" has left America naked for the theft of its industry, its markets national and international and the high value jobs that once produced these goods.
The Chamber has also, as Josh noted, been the best friend of the banksters both before and after the financial cataclysm of 2008-9. Worse they aide and abet the world's biggest heist; the ongoing fraud and thievery of trillions of tax payer dollars by the banksters at the expense of all their other members whose markets are crippled and customers bankrupted.
The COC is truly a Chamber of Horrors. The Chamber is the epitome of just about everything that is going wrong with this country, our economy and our governance and Thomas J. Donahue is the poster child for the conspiracy of this organizational malevolence of greed and fraud.
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» RE: not worth even debating, even though it's both progressive and conservative
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Posted by: notabilia on Oct 15, 2009 2:20 AM
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When did such Ken Burnsian whitewash of American history become Alternet's default liberal propaganda?
Let's see, all through the McCarthy era, the neo-slavery era, the massive transfer of wealth from workers to elite financial criminals, Vietnam, Watergate, the construction of global empire and bantustans in the American inner cities, there was the US Chamber of Commerce, nice and kindly and not offensive with its representation of Business, money, development.
Are you kidding me? This is all a continuation, my friend, an amplification. If you look back for some kind of golden era in America, you will be deluded, and you might as well move back in with your parents.
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» RE: The thesis is nonsense
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» RE: The thesis is nonsense
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» I Must Agree-Nonsense!
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Posted by: debocracy on Oct 15, 2009 2:24 AM
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The Powell Memorandum explains why the U$A has become the laughingstock of the civilized world. Assholes are in charge here. Lewis F. Powell, a Supreme Court Justice, wrote it up after a few beers with his neighbor, the President of the US Chamber of Commerce.
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» Behold... Bushlandia. Or, CoClandia?
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Oct 15, 2009 2:56 AM
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FYI moron, those constituents are not only voters and taxpayers, but Customers.
This tactic was used during a recent Hospital millage vote. Numerous business had huge signs against the minute tax increase to retain a local hospitals neo natal ICU, a Burn Unit and Senior care services. I no longer shop at ANY of these business who had those oppositon signs out front.
those Neo Natals are YOUR customers new born children. Those Burn victims are their spouses. Those seniors- their parents.
What once was a Sign of Community mindedness should now be considered a plaque indicatings apathy towards their community and their customers- Self Serving Greed!
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» RE: "Constitutents" are CUSTOMERS!!!!
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» Corporations are all the same.
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Posted by: cd348 on Oct 15, 2009 4:01 AM
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Posted by: GuitarBill on Oct 15, 2009 4:26 AM
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Double-dealing business owners also understand that it's to their advantage to organize in their efforts to defeat worker organizing and unionization. That's why a majority of American businesses belong to their own union. It's called the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
So what happened to The Employee Free Choice Act?
The Chamber of Commerce amassed a multi-million-dollar war chest to disseminate anti-labor propaganda and pay for lobbying Congress to defeat the Employee Free Choice Act--and guess what, they won.
Source: US Chamber of Commerce: Challenging the Unions' Anti-Growth Agenda.
Did you know that "Big Labor’s Agenda Is Bad for U.S. Workers and the Economy"? Or that "Unions Are Pushing an Agenda That Interferes With the Way Businesses Work"? Are you aware that the US Chamber of Commerce intends to save America by "Standing Up to Labor—Stopping Card Check Legislation and Other Bad Policies"?
No?
Then you don't read enough US Chamber of Commerce propaganda.
%^)
Not to worry, because they own the US news media and the Congress.
Now, go back to sleep and spew idiotic international Jewish conspiracy theories, while the US Chamber of Commerce continues to exercise stealth dictatorial control of the US Congress.
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» Please, not a UNION rather a group of fascist fraternity pranksters.
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Posted by: McGovern72! on Oct 15, 2009 4:45 AM
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» Uh, "Blue Dog Democrats" are not Democrats
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» Good point. Republi-lite should be a good name to term them.
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Oct 15, 2009 6:19 AM
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The Global Warming Cult that has got its Tentacles deeply entrenched into both The World's Media and The World's Governments opposses any Open Scientific Debate, because it would reveal their Gross Scientific Fraud. Scientific Fraud is at Least as Bad as Financial Fraud and Should Be Prosecuted.
The Political Position of The US Chamber of Commerce is Irrelevant.
The are asking for a SCIENTIFIC Debate, not a Religious or Political Argument.
Tony
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» Guess where you got that information? From the Chamber of Commerce!
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» RE: Guess where you got that information? From the Chamber of Commerce!
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» "Open debate"? The US Chamber of Commerce advocates "open debate"? LOL!
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» RE: "Open debate"? The US Chamber of Commerce advocates "open debate"? LOL!
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» Boxcutter Bill, you are being uncharacteristically uncharitable towards your masters.
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» RE: Geez! OK, what about environmental POISONING???
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Posted by: sliver on Oct 15, 2009 6:28 AM
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Just send this article to your local chamber, and see if it makes them start to talk about it there.
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» Also, Spitzer's plan: call your state's pension fund
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Posted by: Bozwell on Oct 15, 2009 6:29 AM
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Posted by: ETSpoon on Oct 15, 2009 7:11 AM
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I mean, hell, the Chamber hired me.
Anyway I started training in Marshalltown, Iowa, at that time a small Midwestern city that relied on unionized industries Lennox Industries and Marshalltown Tools mainly. The pitch I was taught was "unions are bad for business!"
So on the first day I was cut loose from my trainer, a "born-again" Christian, I walk into an optometrist's office and begin my spiel, emphasizing the "unions are bad for business" bullshit. The optometrist very nicely lectured me on the fact that the majority of his patients were union members and their families.
Being raised in a union household I had to agree with the optometrist and quite the Chamber the next day.
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Posted by: drricklippin on Oct 15, 2009 8:41 AM
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There is nothing inherently wrong with promoting "commerce" per se but when the excesses of commerce cause harm they must self/auto adapt(ha)or be regulated/required to adapt.
So to me it's all about cyclicality and excess and ultimately about self destruction
Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
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» You suggest that commerce has an adaptive characteristic, tell that to an American Indian.
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» Of Course "Commerce" Can Adapt- But it Can Also Self Destruct!
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» new regulatory agency
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» RE: It's All Cyclical
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Posted by: willymack on Oct 15, 2009 9:12 AM
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Businesses close ranks, using the chamber for support, whenever a complaint of this or that abuse, fraud, or outright theft, from any business comes to light.
The "better" business bureau is pretty much the same; better for business, and to hell with the consumer.
As mentioned above, just look at the C of C's stand on HR676, or anything else representing a dimunition of the bottom line, and in favor of the PEOPLE.
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» RE: Chamber, schmamber
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» RE: to quote Mrs. G as she frantically extinguished a stranger's cigarette on a BART train
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» RE: Chamber, schmamber
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Posted by: EmilyCragg on Oct 15, 2009 11:58 AM
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And right now, this is the case. Corporate ELITES are stampeding over everybody else, without regard to the environment, social issues or the human families that incubate corporate creativity and skills.
Hitler rules, even now.
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» RE: Corporate Hegemony is another term for "Fascism"
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Posted by: Higher Reptile on Oct 15, 2009 11:59 AM
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Our Cheap Politicians
http://www.counterpunch.org/andrew10152009.html
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Posted by: FreeAmerica on Oct 16, 2009 7:45 AM
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Since the chamber's mission is to promote member businesses and interests, naturally they will be opposed to the liberal position.
Between all of the taxes, the bullshit global warming scam, the health care scam, devaluing the American currency, running the uS into crippling debt, using environmental regs to push business to China where they are free to pollute, obviously progressives are anti-business, anti-capitalist, and anti-prosperity. Naturally the pro-business chamber will be opposed to the liberal position.
It is realy simple. American business as represented by the chamber doesn't want the American prosperity crippling stupidity of the demoncrats. The chamber is simply doing it's job.
Naturally the Pavlovian left attacks what doesn't agree with them, and here we are.
As far as a trial for global warming, studied skeptics such as myself have been asking for this for almost a decade. The globull warmers won't show up to defend their prosperity crippling stupidity that time has proven again and again wrong.
The closest we got so far is when a court in the UK declared that gore's propaganda piece was filled with inaccuracies. Gore won't debate, Hansen won't debate, and sites like realclimate censor their comments to avoid any debate.
It is no surprise that the left has put out the word to grouphate the chamber. They are polar opposites in their philosophies. The only thing to see now is how far the fascists on the left go to force their will on everyone. Big Brother has spoken. Go grouphate the chamber.
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Posted by: fredtowson on Oct 16, 2009 10:20 AM
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The Chamber has also, as Josh noted, been the best friend of the banksters both before and after the financial cataclysm of 2008-9. Worse they aide and abet the world's biggest heist; the ongoing fraud and thievery of trillions of tax payer dollars by the the vampire diaries tv show posters the vampire diaries posters private practice s03e03 hdtv.xvid-2hd english subtitles субтитры к сериалам субтитры к шоу seropol5 banksters at the expense of all their other members whose markets are crippled and customers bankrupted.
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Posted by: Prinzowhales on Oct 16, 2009 10:31 AM
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Goldman Sachs is giving record bonuses...and, I must say, they've done a wonderful job for the Corporatists...the biggest backers of our Nobel winning Prez' were from GS...they should get a plaque from their local Chamber...for national service...a nice bronze plaque for all they've done for America--with the help of the dumb animals who vote for mainstream Democrats and Republicans, of course. Trillions for Goldman Sachs! Homelessness and Unemployment for the people who voted for you! Well done, Obama!
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» Your assertion is pure nonsense
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Posted by: ChicagoWay on Oct 16, 2009 10:41 AM
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The nation's largest small business association, The National Federation of Independent Business, memberbership vote 80% plus republican. Small and mid-size business make the Chamber and big business look liberal in comparison :)
http://www.nfib.com/
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