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Rep. Mike Ross, Opponent of Public Option, Raises Eyebrows With Healthy Haul From Pharmacy Chain

One-fifth of his constituents have no health insurance, and more than half want a public option, but Blue Dog Mike Ross has held fast against it. Could a sweetheart deal be why?
September 23, 2009  |  
 
 
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This story was co-published by ProPublica and Politico.

Arkansas Rep. Mike Ross -- a Blue Dog Democrat playing a key role in the health care debate -- sold a piece of commercial property in 2007 for substantially more than a county assessment [2] (PDF) and an independent appraisal [3] (PDF) say it was worth.

The buyer: an Arkansas-based pharmacy chain with a keen interest in how the debate plays out.

Ross sold the real estate in Prescott, Ark., to USA Drug for $420,000 -- an eye-popping number for real estate in the tiny train and lumber town about 100 miles southwest of Little Rock.

"You can buy half the town for $420,000," said Adam Guthrie, chairman of the county Board of Equalization and the only licensed real estate appraiser in Prescott.

But the $420,000 was just the beginning of what Ross and his pharmacist wife, Holly, made from the sale of Holly's Health Mart. The owner of USA Drug, Stephen L. LaFrance Sr., also paid the Rosses $500,000 to $1 million for the pharmacy's assets and paid Holly Ross another $100,001 to $250,000 for signing a non-compete agreement. Those numbers, which Ross listed on the financial disclosure reports he files as a member of Congress, bring the total value of the transaction to between $1 million and $1.67 million.

And that's not counting the $2,300 campaign contribution Ross received from LaFrance two weeks after the sale closed.

Holly Ross remains the pharmacist at Holly's Health Mart under USA Drug. Neither she nor her husband agreed to speak with ProPublica for this story.

At the time of the 2007 sale, the county assessor's office valued the pharmacy's building and the land on which it sits at $263,000 -- nearly $160,000 less than the Rosses got for it. Because assessors' valuations don't always reflect true market value, ProPublica hired Guthrie to appraise the property. He placed the current value of the lot and building at $198,000, substantially lower than the county's assessment, which was raised from $263,000 to $269,000 this year. Guthrie explained the difference between his appraisal and the county assessment by saying that county assessments have been running higher than actual market value.

Mike Ross frequently speaks for a coalition of House moderates known as the Blue Dog Democrats, a group that helped force changes to the version of the health care reform bill drafted by the House Energy and Commerce Committee. The role has lifted him to national prominence in recent months.

Ross, a member of the committee, told reporters on Aug. 5 in Little Rock: "We held the bill hostage in committee for 10 days to make it better. ... We protected small businesses. ... And we ensured that if there is a government option, it will be just that, an option. It will not be mandated on anybody."

Ross bristled at suggestions he was trying to kill the bill.

"I wasn't trying to kill health care reform," he said. "If I was, I wouldn't have been in negotiations for 10 days."

LaFrance has amassed a privately held chain of more than 150 pharmacies operating in five Southern and Midwestern states under a variety of names, including USA Drug. It was the 15th largest drug chain in the country in 2008 with an estimated $906 million in sales, according to Racher Press, which publishes business intelligence reports.

The pharmacy industry is aggressively lobbying Congress in an effort to protect its interests in the health care debate. Ross, who belongs to the 52-member Congressional Community Pharmacy Coalition, has introduced and supported legislation backed by pharmacy trade groups.

On Aug. 1, the National Community Pharmacists Association issued a news release thanking Ross for an amendment to the health care reform bill that would create greater transparency in the operations of pharmacy benefit managers, who act as clearinghouses for insurance company reimbursements for pharmaceuticals.

In June, the National Association of Chain Drug Stores issued a news release thanking Ross for introducing legislation authorizing payments to pharmacists to train patients in how to manage their medications.

Health-related interests have donated $342,475 to Ross since 2007, according to federal campaign data maintained by the nonprofit Center for Responsive Politics. No other business sector has given Ross as much.


Marcus Stern is a senior reporter for ProPublica. In 2006, he shared the Pulitzer Prize and George Polk Award for his role in breaking the story of former Rep. Randy "Duke" Cunningham's wide-ranging corruption for Copley News Service.
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There would be NO BLUE DOG DEMOCRATS
Posted by: timenotonmyside on Sep 23, 2009 2:39 AM   
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if the DNC had a set of balls.

As soon as these so called right wing fanatics declare themselves publicly, the DNC should kick their happy little asses right out of the party.

Blue dogs have no right to sit on the middle of the fence, either you are or you aren't.

The Democratic party has polluted itself with so many special interest politicians that they don't stand for anything.

You just don't see that happening with the GOP.

The GOP all drink the koolaid - period.

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More Evidence ...
Posted by: drricklippin on Sep 23, 2009 4:00 AM   
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... for election reform and conflict of interest reform

When-When-When- will this stuff ever stop?

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa

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William McGuire - United Health
Posted by: US Citizen on Sep 23, 2009 5:22 AM   
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Just google "William McGuire United Health", and you will begin to understand the extent of the corruption of the health care industry. Here is one man who has pocketed billions of dollars that were supposed to go to the health care of the people of the United States. He uses this ill-gotten money to finance his Republican candidates, including Michelle Bachmann. Instead of rotting in prison where he belongs, he is living the wonderful life, at the expense of the rest of us.

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My Congressman Mike Ross is bribed by the Health Care Industry...
Posted by: peterjkraus on Sep 23, 2009 5:57 AM   
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.... and there's not a damned thing I or any other constituent can do about it. I left the Democratic party because of Arkansas' horrible representation: check out OpenSecrets.org for Rep. Ross, Senators Lincoln and Pryor, see the huge contributions they took and are taking in from health care corporations this year alone (Ross, $81k and counting, Blanche Lincoln $641k and counting) and Finance, Insurance and Real Estate (Mark Pryor $961k) and Lawyers and Lobbyists (again top earner Pryor: over $1 Million).

We MUST get these people out of office: they're bought and paid for by lobbyists, so let them become lobbyists. Let's replace them with honest people who will represent the people of their districts to the best of their ability.

This bribery has to stop.

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ELECTION REFORM & DENNIS KUCINICH
Posted by: smf1403 on Sep 23, 2009 6:51 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
YES, DR. RICK LIPPIN, ELECTION REFORM. I AGREE. BUT HOW DO WE GET THERE?
WE HAVE TO VOTE SOMEONE IN THAT IS HONEST AND WILL REFORM THE ELECTION PROCESS.
DENNIS KUCINICH HAS CONSISTENTLY VOTED FOR THE PEOPLE AND IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE.

WHY ARE ONLY THE CELEBRITIES SEEN AS REBELS (SEAN PENN, VIGGO MORTENSEN) OUT THERE GOING TO PUBLIC PLACES, HOLDING DINNERS FOR DENNIS KUCINICH?

WHY DO WE CONTINUE TO LET THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY (THAT INCLUDES THE MOVE-ONS, ALTERNETS, ETC.) TELL US WHO WE SHOULD VOTE FOR OR WHO CAN WIN?
WE COULD HAVE HAD ELECTION REFORM, SINGLE-PAYER MEDICARE FOR ALL HEALTHCARE, AN END TO WTO, NAFTA, REAL ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS, AN END TO WAR.
WAKE UP R.E.M., TIM ROBBINS, SUSAN SARANDON, BRUCE SPRINGSTREEN, ALL YOU CELEBRITIES THAT ARE NOT LOOKING PAST THE EMPTY ARTICULATE RHETORIC OF THE BARACK OBAMAS, ETC.
DENNIS KUCINICH HAS ALL THE RIGHT STUFF TO CHANGE THIS COUNTRY AND THE WORLD.

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Prescott, Arkansas pop. 4500? That Prescott?
Posted by: redbridge on Sep 23, 2009 7:50 AM   
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USA drug felt the need to buy out and pay for a non-compete clause in a town of five thousand? Sure looks like they could have gotten a lot more for their $1-1.7 million. Here's a link ...

http://www.nevadacorealestate.com/

20,000 ft hardware store - $45k. Farm/Garden w/inventory - $165k. THIS is the town where USA Drug bought out their competitor for $1 million plus?

And check out USA Drug's store locator - see Prescott, Arkansas anywhere?

http://www.usadrug.com/listarkansas.htm

This smells so bad because it's rotten.

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It's morally wrong
Posted by: reg373 on Sep 23, 2009 10:38 AM   
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...to leave 100 million Americans un or underinsured, 1 illness away from financial ruin. And it's wrong to burden small business with the outrageous insurance costs also -- found a cool site; Balkingpoints ; incredible satellite view of earth

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bribery
Posted by: tazdelaney on Sep 23, 2009 10:52 AM   
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all campaign funding should be provided by the government itself and be within tight spending limits. no acceptance of gifts of any sort should be allowed to public officials and their acceptance should be charged as bribery. further, since 98% of senators and 86% of the house are millionaires, while 98% of americans are not millionaires; what we have is taxation without representation. a body of the rich cannot represent the poor and working people. note that congress voted itself 5 raises while quashing all but one increase in minimum wage, and that to only $7.25, $4.60 an hour after taxes. how about if workers could just vote themselves a raise? imagine congress trying to live on $4.60 an hour take=home? (that's about what they're worth.)

a solution to this would be to make it so that any elected official be required to divest themselves of the riches and assets for the term of their office. this would ensure two things: the rich would run from office like frightened rabbits and congress would suddenly act in the best interests of the many, not the interests of the rich and corporations.

some 90% of all elections since 1980 have been won by the side with the biggest campaign fund, aka the best demockery money can buy. here in NYC, for instance, bloomberg spent almost $100 million to win last time and vows to spend that much again, virtually overwhelming opponents in a sea of dollars. $100 mil to win a mayoralty? how much was spent on the last presidential campaign? $300 million plus? how can this be called government of, by or for 'the people.' 'the people' generally don't live in $27 million brownstones. what we're talking about here is a blatant plutocracy...

in the last election (and previous ones similarly), the true opposition candidates who represented authentic change instead of lip service, were totally denied even the right to appear in the NBC-disney debates. that corporation and the RNC/DNC agreed that nader/kucinich/paul/barr/gravel lacked sufficient funds to qualify as 'serious' candidates. only filthy rich bribed entities are serious candidates? had these been given the opportunity to speak their piece; the election may have been very, very different – which is precisely why the corporatists were in full agreement on keeping all those who aren't club members out of their exclusive arrangement. this is just plain fraud, virtually as one-party as the CCCP.

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yes, kucinich!
Posted by: tazdelaney on Sep 23, 2009 11:37 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
kucinich, unlike obama or the vast majority of the essentially one-party government, is a real person, not just a bribed, sold-out corporate mouthpiece. this is why he wasn't even allowed into the disney-debates. if he were now president, the CIA rendition program would have been stopped entirely, instead of mandated to continue as obamabush has done. he would've ended the wars as quickly as eisenhower ended the korean war, (two months flat.) he would've put the trillions towards developing the 15 millionjobs we urgently need, which can only be achieved by some 2 million new small business startups. instead both bush and obama shove trillions to the very criminals who schemed this disaster, give the comfortable still more tax cuts and put zero SBA funds for startups.

obama liked to point out that he voted against the start of the iraq war but he, like 96% of congress, voted for every war budget, voted for the patriot acts and military commissions act and never once protested the wars or the torture, the assault on what little remained of the bill of rights. kucinich tried to get a war-profiteering provision into the budgets as we had in WWII, but this was stealthily removed by unknown persons the night before the vote! kucinich tried to get REAL inquiry into the extremely suspicious events of 911 but he was just shrugged off. meanwhile, bush-cheney and rice all refused to testify under oath to congress about that day. isn't that like taking the fifth amendment and doesn't that indicate complicity? oh, but that's just the ravings of a 'paranoid conspiracy theorist.'

cheney was still on the board of HKBR, with his pay being deferred until after he was out of office. how it could be considered legal, no conflict of interest, that he presided over no-bid grants in teh tens of bilions of dollars to that demonic company is beyond me. congress just looked the other way, except kucinich. i wonder just how many millions cheney got when he left office? blood on every dollar of it, too. of note that it was LBJ who took a little texas company named brown & root (the BR in HKBR), from being small construction firm to being a vast enterprise via vietnam... republicans have no monopoly on war-profiteering.

it took kucinich and a couple of other alert congressmen to put the real figures of the bailouts and guarantees before congress and america, to very little coverage. while we'd been led by bush and obama to think it was maybe $3-4 trillion, accordingto the GAO data presented by kucinich, the total outlays have been $12.2 trillion... and it sure seems that this is all air-money and essentially debt, stacked on the tripled national debt bush left us of $12 trilion. i suspect that this is really bankruptcy. corporate-communist bush, having given his core constituency of the rich trillions in tax cuts, then borrows $3 trillion from his buddies in communist china. the chinese have stated flatly that they don't believe that the USG is good for that debt and refuses to loan any more. pretty sharp capitalists, those communists.

i'm reminded of the 'gulf of tonkin incident' that was used to launch the huge buildup of the vietnam war under LBJ. it later turned out that the photos and story were entirely CIA and navy-fabricated... but this ruse resulted in 535 out of 537 members of congress voting for the resolution to go to war. the only two who voted against it, the only two who were not just sheep, were democrat wayne morse of oregon and republican grunig of alaska. my guess is that kucinich would have made that a vote of 3 against. a man who can think, and think independently, for himself. this is why he is marginalized.

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What can we do to expose this criminal SOB?
Posted by: tim_s_eb@yahoo.com on Sep 23, 2009 3:55 PM   
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Well since i didn't notice any action links to mike ross of Arkansas i am posting following:

His Arkansas webpage

http://ross.house.gov/index.html

There are news articles about his funny business. Perhaps we can email congress and mike to force him out of congress?

His campaign page:

http://www.ross4congress.com/

His email address:

http://ross.house.gov/?sectionid=77§iontree=7677

Give it a shot or two

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Who is at fault?
Posted by: wordmaster on Sep 24, 2009 3:20 AM   
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Ignorance and freedom cannot coexist. I see all the bitching about the money politicians spend, but in reality, it is up to the voters to do their home work!

As long as ignorant voters vote for the person with the greatest name recognition or for whoever happens to be on the republican or democrat ticket, we will continue to see this country go downhill.

To those of us who take a little time to check out the people we vote for, who has the biggest election treasure chest is meaningless.

As most of the ignorant masses are far too lazy and too ignorant to research candidates, we have a problem. Instead of good politicians who believe in and fight for our Constitution, we get crooks who do whatever they can to get rich and increase the power of government over our personal lives.

Campaign reform is just another panacea for the ignorant. The only thing that will bring this country back to its roots as a democratic republic rather than a socialistic despotism is voter education and, more importantly, the death of apathy.

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Mike Ross is
Posted by: osd on Sep 26, 2009 8:00 PM   
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just one more selfish, bought/sold out politician. So what is new about that? He should never of been elected. The whole reason he ran was to do the bidding of the corporations that pay him the bribes. Then he gets a nice job with the evil doers that he promoted. We need campaign reform and criminals need to be in jail or publicly executed.

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Yes, that's true
Posted by: rrrbert on Oct 20, 2009 7:23 PM   
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There would be NO BLUE DOG DEMOCRATS
Posted by: timenotonmyside on Sep 23, 2009 2:39 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
if the DNC had a set of balls.

As soon as these so called right wing fanatics declare themselves publicly, the DNC should kick their happy little asses right out of the party.

Blue dogs have no right to sit on the middle of the fence, either you are or you aren't.

The Democratic party has polluted itself with so many special interest politicians that they don't stand for anything.

You just don't see that happening with the GOP.

The GOP all drink the koolaid - period.

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More Evidence ...
Posted by: drricklippin on Sep 23, 2009 4:00 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
... for election reform and conflict of interest reform

When-When-When- will this stuff ever stop?

Dr. Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa

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William McGuire - United Health
Posted by: US Citizen on Sep 23, 2009 5:22 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Just google "William McGuire United Health", and you will begin to understand the extent of the corruption of the health care industry. Here is one man who has pocketed billions of dollars that were supposed to go to the health care of the people of the United States. He uses this ill-gotten money to finance his Republican candidates, including Michelle Bachmann. Instead of rotting in prison where he belongs, he is living the wonderful life, at the expense of the rest of us.

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My Congressman Mike Ross is bribed by the Health Care Industry...
Posted by: peterjkraus on Sep 23, 2009 5:57 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
.... and there's not a damned thing I or any other constituent can do about it. I left the Democratic party because of Arkansas' horrible representation: check out OpenSecrets.org for Rep. Ross, Senators Lincoln and Pryor, see the huge contributions they took and are taking in from health care corporations this year alone (Ross, $81k and counting, Blanche Lincoln $641k and counting) and Finance, Insurance and Real Estate (Mark Pryor $961k) and Lawyers and Lobbyists (again top earner Pryor: over $1 Million).

We MUST get these people out of office: they're bought and paid for by lobbyists, so let them become lobbyists. Let's replace them with honest people who will represent the people of their districts to the best of their ability.

This bribery has to stop.

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ELECTION REFORM & DENNIS KUCINICH
Posted by: smf1403 on Sep 23, 2009 6:51 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
YES, DR. RICK LIPPIN, ELECTION REFORM. I AGREE. BUT HOW DO WE GET THERE?
WE HAVE TO VOTE SOMEONE IN THAT IS HONEST AND WILL REFORM THE ELECTION PROCESS.
DENNIS KUCINICH HAS CONSISTENTLY VOTED FOR THE PEOPLE AND IS ONE OF THE PEOPLE.

WHY ARE ONLY THE CELEBRITIES SEEN AS REBELS (SEAN PENN, VIGGO MORTENSEN) OUT THERE GOING TO PUBLIC PLACES, HOLDING DINNERS FOR DENNIS KUCINICH?

WHY DO WE CONTINUE TO LET THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY (THAT INCLUDES THE MOVE-ONS, ALTERNETS, ETC.) TELL US WHO WE SHOULD VOTE FOR OR WHO CAN WIN?
WE COULD HAVE HAD ELECTION REFORM, SINGLE-PAYER MEDICARE FOR ALL HEALTHCARE, AN END TO WTO, NAFTA, REAL ENVIRONMENTAL REGULATIONS, AN END TO WAR.
WAKE UP R.E.M., TIM ROBBINS, SUSAN SARANDON, BRUCE SPRINGSTREEN, ALL YOU CELEBRITIES THAT ARE NOT LOOKING PAST THE EMPTY ARTICULATE RHETORIC OF THE BARACK OBAMAS, ETC.
DENNIS KUCINICH HAS ALL THE RIGHT STUFF TO CHANGE THIS COUNTRY AND THE WORLD.

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Prescott, Arkansas pop. 4500? That Prescott?
Posted by: redbridge on Sep 23, 2009 7:50 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
USA drug felt the need to buy out and pay for a non-compete clause in a town of five thousand? Sure looks like they could have gotten a lot more for their $1-1.7 million. Here's a link ...

http://www.nevadacorealestate.com/

20,000 ft hardware store - $45k. Farm/Garden w/inventory - $165k. THIS is the town where USA Drug bought out their competitor for $1 million plus?

And check out USA Drug's store locator - see Prescott, Arkansas anywhere?

http://www.usadrug.com/listarkansas.htm

This smells so bad because it's rotten.

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It's morally wrong
Posted by: reg373 on Sep 23, 2009 10:38 AM   
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...to leave 100 million Americans un or underinsured, 1 illness away from financial ruin. And it's wrong to burden small business with the outrageous insurance costs also -- found a cool site; Balkingpoints ; incredible satellite view of earth

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bribery
Posted by: tazdelaney on Sep 23, 2009 10:52 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
all campaign funding should be provided by the government itself and be within tight spending limits. no acceptance of gifts of any sort should be allowed to public officials and their acceptance should be charged as bribery. further, since 98% of senators and 86% of the house are millionaires, while 98% of americans are not millionaires; what we have is taxation without representation. a body of the rich cannot represent the poor and working people. note that congress voted itself 5 raises while quashing all but one increase in minimum wage, and that to only $7.25, $4.60 an hour after taxes. how about if workers could just vote themselves a raise? imagine congress trying to live on $4.60 an hour take=home? (that's about what they're worth.)

a solution to this would be to make it so that any elected official be required to divest themselves of the riches and assets for the term of their office. this would ensure two things: the rich would run from office like frightened rabbits and congress would suddenly act in the best interests of the many, not the interests of the rich and corporations.

some 90% of all elections since 1980 have been won by the side with the biggest campaign fund, aka the best demockery money can buy. here in NYC, for instance, bloomberg spent almost $100 million to win last time and vows to spend that much again, virtually overwhelming opponents in a sea of dollars. $100 mil to win a mayoralty? how much was spent on the last presidential campaign? $300 million plus? how can this be called government of, by or for 'the people.' 'the people' generally don't live in $27 million brownstones. what we're talking about here is a blatant plutocracy...

in the last election (and previous ones similarly), the true opposition candidates who represented authentic change instead of lip service, were totally denied even the right to appear in the NBC-disney debates. that corporation and the RNC/DNC agreed that nader/kucinich/paul/barr/gravel lacked sufficient funds to qualify as 'serious' candidates. only filthy rich bribed entities are serious candidates? had these been given the opportunity to speak their piece; the election may have been very, very different – which is precisely why the corporatists were in full agreement on keeping all those who aren't club members out of their exclusive arrangement. this is just plain fraud, virtually as one-party as the CCCP.

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yes, kucinich!
Posted by: tazdelaney on Sep 23, 2009 11:37 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
kucinich, unlike obama or the vast majority of the essentially one-party government, is a real person, not just a bribed, sold-out corporate mouthpiece. this is why he wasn't even allowed into the disney-debates. if he were now president, the CIA rendition program would have been stopped entirely, instead of mandated to continue as obamabush has done. he would've ended the wars as quickly as eisenhower ended the korean war, (two months flat.) he would've put the trillions towards developing the 15 millionjobs we urgently need, which can only be achieved by some 2 million new small business startups. instead both bush and obama shove trillions to the very criminals who schemed this disaster, give the comfortable still more tax cuts and put zero SBA funds for startups.

obama liked to point out that he voted against the start of the iraq war but he, like 96% of congress, voted for every war budget, voted for the patriot acts and military commissions act and never once protested the wars or the torture, the assault on what little remained of the bill of rights. kucinich tried to get a war-profiteering provision into the budgets as we had in WWII, but this was stealthily removed by unknown persons the night before the vote! kucinich tried to get REAL inquiry into the extremely suspicious events of 911 but he was just shrugged off. meanwhile, bush-cheney and rice all refused to testify under oath to congress about that day. isn't that like taking the fifth amendment and doesn't that indicate complicity? oh, but that's just the ravings of a 'paranoid conspiracy theorist.'

cheney was still on the board of HKBR, with his pay being deferred until after he was out of office. how it could be considered legal, no conflict of interest, that he presided over no-bid grants in teh tens of bilions of dollars to that demonic company is beyond me. congress just looked the other way, except kucinich. i wonder just how many millions cheney got when he left office? blood on every dollar of it, too. of note that it was LBJ who took a little texas company named brown & root (the BR in HKBR), from being small construction firm to being a vast enterprise via vietnam... republicans have no monopoly on war-profiteering.

it took kucinich and a couple of other alert congressmen to put the real figures of the bailouts and guarantees before congress and america, to very little coverage. while we'd been led by bush and obama to think it was maybe $3-4 trillion, accordingto the GAO data presented by kucinich, the total outlays have been $12.2 trillion... and it sure seems that this is all air-money and essentially debt, stacked on the tripled national debt bush left us of $12 trilion. i suspect that this is really bankruptcy. corporate-communist bush, having given his core constituency of the rich trillions in tax cuts, then borrows $3 trillion from his buddies in communist china. the chinese have stated flatly that they don't believe that the USG is good for that debt and refuses to loan any more. pretty sharp capitalists, those communists.

i'm reminded of the 'gulf of tonkin incident' that was used to launch the huge buildup of the vietnam war under LBJ. it later turned out that the photos and story were entirely CIA and navy-fabricated... but this ruse resulted in 535 out of 537 members of congress voting for the resolution to go to war. the only two who voted against it, the only two who were not just sheep, were democrat wayne morse of oregon and republican grunig of alaska. my guess is that kucinich would have made that a vote of 3 against. a man who can think, and think independently, for himself. this is why he is marginalized.

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What can we do to expose this criminal SOB?
Posted by: tim_s_eb@yahoo.com on Sep 23, 2009 3:55 PM   
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Well since i didn't notice any action links to mike ross of Arkansas i am posting following:

His Arkansas webpage

http://ross.house.gov/index.html

There are news articles about his funny business. Perhaps we can email congress and mike to force him out of congress?

His campaign page:

http://www.ross4congress.com/

His email address:

http://ross.house.gov/?sectionid=77§iontree=7677

Give it a shot or two

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Who is at fault?
Posted by: wordmaster on Sep 24, 2009 3:20 AM   
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Ignorance and freedom cannot coexist. I see all the bitching about the money politicians spend, but in reality, it is up to the voters to do their home work!

As long as ignorant voters vote for the person with the greatest name recognition or for whoever happens to be on the republican or democrat ticket, we will continue to see this country go downhill.

To those of us who take a little time to check out the people we vote for, who has the biggest election treasure chest is meaningless.

As most of the ignorant masses are far too lazy and too ignorant to research candidates, we have a problem. Instead of good politicians who believe in and fight for our Constitution, we get crooks who do whatever they can to get rich and increase the power of government over our personal lives.

Campaign reform is just another panacea for the ignorant. The only thing that will bring this country back to its roots as a democratic republic rather than a socialistic despotism is voter education and, more importantly, the death of apathy.

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Mike Ross is
Posted by: osd on Sep 26, 2009 8:00 PM   
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just one more selfish, bought/sold out politician. So what is new about that? He should never of been elected. The whole reason he ran was to do the bidding of the corporations that pay him the bribes. Then he gets a nice job with the evil doers that he promoted. We need campaign reform and criminals need to be in jail or publicly executed.

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Yes, that's true
Posted by: rrrbert on Oct 20, 2009 7:23 PM   
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