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Oliver Stone Rewrites 9/11

By Anthony Kaufman, AlterNet. Posted August 9, 2006.


In his new film, 'World Trade Center,' the director turns the events of 9/11 into an easily digestible myth of American heroism, with an almost happy ending. Huh?
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"Don't think; keep moving."

Spoken by Port Authority police Sergeant John McLoughlin (Nicholas Cage) as the World Trade Center buckles above him, these words ring truer than most in Paramount Pictures' new film "World Trade Center," directed by Oliver Stone.

Not only does this line of dialogue aptly describe the movie -- which opens today -- but it also illustrates a worldview embraced by the film. No wonder Paramount launched a massive marketing campaign that targets two specific groups often light on thought and heavy on action: teenage boys and the Christian Right.

A celebration of authority, God, and president Bush, "World Trade Center" doesn't feel like an Oliver Stone movie. If conservatives were worried that Stone, the director of anti-establishment touchstones "Platoon," "Born on the Fourth of July," and "JFK," would turn this 9/11 movie into a platform for personal politics, he has proved them resoundingly wrong. Instead, Stone delivers the Bush base a jingoistic, All-American all-you-can-eat buffet on a silver platter.

"World Trade Center" opens with the soon-to-be heroes of a Port Authority police precinct heading into work from points across New Jersey and New York. It's an ethnic cross-section of New Yorkers, including sergeant McLoughlin (Cage), Will Jimeno (Michael Pena), Antonio Rodriguez (Armendo Riesco) and Dominick Pezzulo (Jay Hernandez).

But when Jimeno starts mouthing the words to Brooks and Dunn's country and western song "Only in America" -- heard on the radio, and, of course, the soundtrack -- the film betrays its true setting. This isn't New York (come on, how many Latino cops sing along with lily-white patriotic ballads?). This is an imaginary Big Apple -- complete with happy-go-lucky black transsexual prostitutes and amiable hippie homeless guys -- made for those who've never visited the city and want to claim it as their own 9/11 memory.

The film predictably sets up the characters alongside the first rumblings of the catastrophe and the confusion on the ground: Were there two planes, or just one? A small aircraft, or a larger jet? Possibly to avoid depicting the impact for the umpteenth time, Stone never shows the planes hitting the towers; we only see a brief glimpse of a jet's shadow crossing a building. (This image also includes a billboard from Paramount's 2001 Ben Stiller comedy "Zoolander." Is this historical accuracy or product placement?)

No matter. When McLoughlin and his team eventually enter the World Trade Center concourse as the buildings collapse, the film takes its most harrowing turn. Fade to black: Buried beneath mounds of gnarled metal, concrete slabs, and twisted pipes, the Port Authority officers are either trapped, dead, or dying. These horrible moments are also the film's most effective and visceral; the men endure excruciating pain; the surroundings are oppressive, claustrophobic and thrilling. But just in case the audience gets too uncomfortable, Stone cuts away to their wholesome American families waiting tearfully for word of their husbands, fathers and sons. As grieving wives and mothers, actors Maria Bello and Maggie Gyllenhaal do an admirable job of suffering in slow motion. Some in the audience will have trouble fighting back the soapy movie-of-the-week tears.


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Anthony Kaufman has written about films and the film industry for the New York Times, the Chicago Tribune and Utne Magazine.



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Oliver Stone
Posted by: mn on Aug 9, 2006 3:46 AM   
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He's a film maker, not a journalist or an editorialist or a historian. Good for him for getting some creepy lizard like Cal Thomas to say nice things about him. This movie isn't meant to capture meta9-11, it's about 3 guys buried in rubble. Watch it (or not) and move on...M.N.

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» RE: Oliver Stone Posted by: raiteri
Maybe Oliver is a genius
Posted by: Rolomax on Aug 9, 2006 4:09 AM   
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Perhaps he already knows that this movie needs to appeal to people who are spoon-fed by TV and the media.

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comedy
Posted by: rsaxto on Aug 9, 2006 4:34 AM   
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The film sounds like either an outrageous comedy or a completely worthless film like most hollywood products.

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"Loose Change" Blockbuster, Please
Posted by: terradea on Aug 9, 2006 5:15 AM   
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Attention filmmakers: We need a "Loose Change" movie. "V" for Vendetta was GREAT, but I think it was over the heads of those it needed to reach. It's time for less symbolism and a more factual depiction of the 9-11 ruse.

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Back and to the Left
Posted by: marklar on Aug 9, 2006 5:16 AM   
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That's where the wheat germ is, behnd the whole wheat pasta.
Oliver Stone is great, his movies are great, ususally, but interesting and always entertaining. Enetertainment for profir is the main reason he makes movies. Take it with a grain or tow of salt.

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» RE: Back and to the Left Posted by: tristansmum35
» ROFL!! Posted by: 50566
9-11 conspiracy - they new mythology
Posted by: Conservasaurus on Aug 9, 2006 5:30 AM   
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you do need to give up on that myth - and that’s not what this film is about, it is about the reality of those that were involved. In case you have forgotten, and it seems you have, there were REAL AMERICANS killed in that tragedy at the hands of Arab terrorists, and real hero's made that day.

The 9-11 conspiracy myths need to stay where they belong, in comic books and on here! - not on film!

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» mythology is exactly what it is Posted by: Allan Stevo
» 9-11 conspiracy "questions" cult-ture Posted by: ABetterFuture
» RE: 9-11 conspiracy - they new mythology Posted by: concerned Canadian
» More questions Posted by: Rolomax
» If Kerry had been president Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: If Kerry had been president Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: If Kerry had been president Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: If Kerry had been president Posted by: Conservasaurus
» Now, Now, Now Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: Now, Now, Now Posted by: JessB
» RE: Now, Now, Now Posted by: Conservasaurus
» they new mythology Posted by: 50566
Adolf Hitler in: The Holocaust.... cue cheesy music
Posted by: pixiequix on Aug 9, 2006 5:31 AM   
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Gee, maybe for his next project he could go back and rewrite that whole Holocaust thing.

- So we're clear, my tongue is firmly in cheek.

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Just who ARE you people that want to be ENTERTAINED instead
Posted by: Bev on Aug 9, 2006 5:38 AM   
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of facing reality??? What planet did you come from? Wherever it is, I wish you'd go back.

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Believability is in the eye of the beholder
Posted by: Realman on Aug 9, 2006 7:12 AM   
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Author Kaufman's disbelief that Hispanic cops could be familiar with a (knee-jerk) patriotic country tune, that trannie pro's could just be trying to getting along; that homeless folks could be amiable belies his lack of experience with the non-hyper-dramatic everyday existence of NYC. I'm only a frequent visitor from New Jersey, and all of those descriptions ring true - at times.

If Kaufman can't handle that sometimes NYC doesn't ape the ugly realities revealed in exposes, and is just sometimes a city getting along as best it can -- and that in the point of view of the characters in the movie, these were probably realistic, believable experiences -- then he's simply trying to impose his wishes on the movie, and whine about how they weren't fulfilled. Sorry: That's not valid.

The point of view I'm gleaning from what I've seen and heard of the movie is valid. It doesn't rewrite history. It doesn't balance history. It lets people see accurately how some people see their own traumatic and, yes, heroic history. Take it for what it's worth and put it in a political context yourself.

When I saw that AlterNet had posted a commentary about the movie, it crossed my mind to print up some copies and bring them along when I went to see it later today. But now I won't even finish reading it.

Bill Stella

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all markers in
Posted by: schnoggi on Aug 9, 2006 7:41 AM   
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yeah I'm a conspiracy nutcase, tin foil by the bed at all times. must be. otherwise why would I be wondering how Oliver Stone somehow slipped up that night when he was tanked on twelve different drugs and was having a fun night with three teenage Thai prostitutes and didn't notice the lights behind that mirror in the hotel. Dude, you were so set up. must have been so surprised when they pulled out that video and then showed you the revised script...

because he should know better, always check those mirrors man, you should just know that, now you have to live down this idiotic movie.

is anyone really surprised this gump bullshit came out?

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» RE: gump bullshit Posted by: Ghoulman
waiting for the real story
Posted by: robmikejas on Aug 9, 2006 7:49 AM   
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World Trade Center is not on my to do list. I'm waiting for the real story to be filmed.

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» RE: waiting for the real story Posted by: willymack
» The real 9-11 story... Posted by: Conservasaurus
» thank you for sharing Posted by: 50566
» RE: thank you for sharing Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: thank you for sharing Posted by: lindalee
» RE: thank you for sharing Posted by: Conservasaurus
9/11 Hyperbole
Posted by: NonnyO on Aug 9, 2006 8:24 AM   
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9/11 was the single most fortunate day in the life of George W. Bush whose ratings were still tanking only the day before. I categorically refuse to jump on the faux patriotic bandwagon to go see this movie... or any other movie that glorifies (directly or indirectly) the best day in the life of George W. Bush. I categorically deplore the whole idea that I'm supposed to be "entertained" by the grief of others, and pay for the "privilege" of being entertained by the grief of others, even if it purports to have a warm fuzzy ending.

The story line can be totally not about GWB, but it still reminds me that every time he or a member of his Criminal Cabal do any 'speechifying' they intone maudlin grief in solemn tones about 9/11... followed by warmongering rhetoric and nonsense about these unseen "enemies" and his "war on ter-ra" that we never had before GWB, the Decider-in-Chief, decided to invade Iraq for reasons we knew were a pack of lies to begin with (well, I knew they were lies). The "war on terror" is bogus. The "terrorists" are not part of any country's army; they are criminals. The 9/11 hijackers were criminals. They died with their victims, so there's no one to prosecute in our legal system. Deal with it. There are a few billion people on the planet, and only a few thousand are actually criminals who commit terrorist acts. Why not let law enforcement agencies throughout the world deal with the criminals???

Normal grief lasts one year; anything longer requires counseling for morbid grieving. I'm over the grief of 9/11; I honor the dead, but I'm long over the grief; I'm dealing with reality and wondering why the Bu$hCo administration refuses to recognize that most people are over their grieving. I think it's reprehensible for anyone to capitalize on the grief of the family and friends of the dead (who were from 82 different nations, last I heard; certainly not all those people were from this country).

So, just as I refused to see the previous movie about that day, I refuse to see this one. I will not indirectly celebrate the best day in the life of George W. Bush and pay to be 'entertained' by fictional represenations of someone else's grief. (On the other hand, I need plot lines and story and dialogue to be "entertained" - multiple special effects just don't do it. I'm not a fan of deafening explosions and crashes and visual effects of blood and gore for the sake of showing off special effects.)

So, I categorically refuse to participate in being 'entertained' over someone else's grief, and the most fortunate day in the life of George W. Bush.

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» Amen to that. Posted by: 50566
» Yeah, what he said. Posted by: gar
» RE: 9/11 Hyperbole Posted by: wililysunion
It's about Hollywoodland
Posted by: Ghoulman on Aug 9, 2006 8:31 AM   
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I think the article is an accurate critique. After all, it's just a movie, and one from Hollywoodland navel gazer, Ollie Stone.

This is the guy who made the Vietnam Conflict about a boy growing up (with bombs, how American), and the assassination of the US President about a grassy knoll.

Stone deals in american myths and myth making, of course this movie is just that.

I think the article points out the cues that show how disingenuious Stone's New York is quite well. After all, if this movie were truley about the hundreds of police and fire fighters who lost thier lives the detail of how they were misinformed and put into danger by bad calls (hint, if a plane hits your building, get out) that delayed a quick evacuation, would have been a dramatic point. But that was forgotten by Sept 12th in the US media myth machine. But it's not actually about the police or fire personel who lost thier lives... this movie is about the myth. Which the crazy marine rescue freak, filmed in angelic light, is all about.

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Uh...ok...
Posted by: GreatHeights on Aug 9, 2006 9:46 AM   
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So, I'm quite certain that our government blew up the Twin Towers. I don't trust this government or anything they say. I certainly recognize the terrible things they have gotten away with, largely thanks to the attacks on 9/11

Having said that, I fail to see why so many of you are all up in arms about this movie.

Its a scarey world out there. A lot of bad shit is happening. its easy to get cynical. But at the same time, if you are serious about changing the world for the better, you have to take the time to remember the GOOD in people. And despite what has happened as a result of those "attacks" on 9/11, for a short period of time, the best in humanity came forth.

Some of you seem to be saying that the only movie worth making of historical events are those that expose the dirty underbelly of an event, or the disturbing consequences of some action. Only those "real" things are worth showing or remembering, and anything else is just esacpism and Hollywood bullshit.

Well, the fact is, the experience of the two cops depicted in this movie is just as REAL as the conspiracy that planned the attacks, and the wars that the attacks allowed to happen. What is wrong with commemorating the goodness exhibited that day? What's wrong with showing the real struggles of ordinary people that did what they could in the face of tragedy? Remind ourselves that there is good out there is important too, otherwise, what hope is there for the world?

So, maybe this isn't the movie you hoped Oliver Stone would make. Maybe the movie will actually be a terrible film. If you're just disinterested that's one thing. But railing against the movie's concept is just blind cynacism at its worst. Despite what was to follow, I don't find anything wrong with commemorating the courage and heroism that happened that day. In fact, I think it is as important as recognizing the evil that have come about from it as well.

I know this isn't very elloquently stated, but I hope I got across what I'm trying to say.

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» Amen! Posted by: bklynbeat
» Heroes should be honored Posted by: coldeye
Plan on giving this movie the Farenheit 9/11 treatment.
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Aug 9, 2006 10:08 AM   
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In other words, don't inhale.

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» Nah. I hate disaster profiteers. Posted by: ABetterFuture
The most accurate film about 9/11 is SYRIANA
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Aug 9, 2006 11:52 AM   
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I don't really plan on seeing Oliver Stone's film; it sounds like a bit of a puff piece - but I've seen Syriana multiple times - just replace the boy on the boat with men on a plane and you will see what I am talking about (go see the movie!). 9/11 was a blowback event, and like John Perkins says in "Confessions of an Economic Hitman", 9/11 was a direct result of the fact that US foreign policy is really a ruthless imperial stance aimed at economic takeover of other countries resources; foreign aid should really be called foriegn loansharking. This has created deep and deadly resentments on the part of the subjugated peoples of the world.

I hope everyone realizes that 9/11 could have been much, much worse - they could have targeted nuclear power reactors and made vast areas of the Eastern seaboard uninhabitable. Bechtel and Westinghouse and GE want to see nuclear power expanded, so we don't see any discussion of this in the US media, but it is another good reason to phase out nuclear power.

One film on 9/11 that deserves unfavorable mention is "Loose Change" - which claims to be a 'amateur video' made by a couple of twenty-something kids. This is startling reminscent of the DCI Group production mocking Al Gore's "Inconvenient Truth" film. See the Wall Street Journal's take on Al Gore's Penguin Army. What is interesting here is that the video claims to be an 'amateur production' made by a '29-year old', yet is actually just one part of a very sophisticated PR campaign. This seems very similar to the "Loose Change" campaign and their "911truth.org" front websites. There is a "Screw Loose Change" video out there that details the specific tactics used in the film. This is a newish trend in PR, but DCI Group specializes in "Corporate Grassroots Campaigns" and has a history of working for the worst people (the Burmese military, for example); that's why I think the same people are behind both films.

The essence of this approach is to put the words of the majority shareholders and CEOs (or of corrupt presidents and their cronies) in the mouths of 'young activists' who have no relation to the sponsors. Why would this be done with "Loose Change"? Simple - to create a ridiculous straw man and protect the president from accusations of incompetence or collusion. The "CIA put bombs in the WTC" BS is a classic example of this very standard PR approach; anyone who asks any questions about 9/11 whatsoever can then be tarred as a 'looney conspiracy theorist'. It's not so hard to understand if you have any knowledge of modern PR tactics.

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adp
Posted by: adp on Aug 9, 2006 1:07 PM   
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I'm no fan of "the administration." I don't believe Stone set out to glorify Bush. I do think (having seen an interview with Stone, Cage and Pena) that there is value in lifting up stories of human hope and redemption amidst the chaos and tragedy (the tragedy including George Bush's "leadership"). We all need constant reminders that human goodness can endure in the midst of destruction - this is one such reminder.

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Stone needed a hit
Posted by: babs on Aug 9, 2006 1:55 PM   
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I figure that Oliver Stone pulled his punches because he needed a hit in the worst way. His last few films tanked and in LaLa land, you're only as good as your last picture.

This one will make gazillions of bucks however but don't expect the truth from Hollywood - it doesn't play in Peoria. If you want hard hitting feature films on war and 'terra', watch Three Kings, Syriana, Lord of War, among other fine indie films that don't need the imprimateur of the big, bad money machines, the studios, including the big rat, Disney.

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It's called "trivializing a tragedy"
Posted by: Ellen Remore on Aug 9, 2006 3:13 PM   
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Yuuuccchhh!!!! What I want to know is, do they hand out free barf bags on your way into the theater? Obviously, Stone knew this Great All-American Epic was going to play very well in Peoria, and he tailored it accordingly. I'm surprised he didn't have Sonderkommando Gibson as a co-director to ratchet up the gore exponentially and sub-title the thing, "The Passion of the Christians." Or maybe hire Spider Woman Coulter to write the screenplay as revisionist history, in which Bush emerges as Giuliani, rather than the stumbling, thumb-up-his-bum twit he actually was. But what makes me want to grab the barf bag is that all of Mr. Stone's scruples about exploiting our national tragedy for fun and profit will be visible on his future bank statements.

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Conspiracy
Posted by: nixonreaganbush*2 on Aug 9, 2006 8:23 PM   
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You know, Conservitus and others who don't subscribe to the liberal regurgitation of the left wing conspiracy; You will never sucessfully engage these people. As long as President Bush is in office, nothing will be right. These are bitter anti-Bush, anti Conservatives, Anti-Life, Anti-Defense, Anti-Israelis.
Simply put, ANYTHING that comes from this administration will be hacked to pieces by the trolls on this pathetic forum. BE ADVISED, Conservatives... because of the nature of politics the next President and Congress will likely be RADICALLY LEFT. This forum will likely diminish because these people will have nothing to seeth about. We will leave Iraq, Afganistan and Guantonimo in shame, as it will be viewed as a victory to the Muslim radicals that we left (and they persevered). We will certainly be struck again by terrorists, because the left has "greived for one year and moved on" (refer to previous posts). There will be a time when I will want to tell some of the folks on this post, "I told you so; but I won't. You would see it in my eye. If you dared to look there.

Come on now..... tell me about how Saddam and his sons were great guys and we should not be there, President Bush orchestrated the 9/11 attacks, how America paid Bin Laden off in oil.....

Do you really believe this? That the President of the United States, regardless of Party, would plan a coordinated, secret domestic attack to kill 3000 Americans to further his agenda? Are you that insecure?

I remember the early '90s when RIGHT WINGERS were scared of the all benelovent left wing government, BIG BROTHER GOVERNMENT, creeping into all aspect of private life, was ready to disarm citizens. Private Militias were formed, claiming BLACK HELECOPTERS and Foreign troops training on our soil for a civil war to take away private weapons. This was during Clinton Years.....

Funny how things have come full circle.......

Does everone see how juvenille all this is?

Just because one Party is in the White House, He is evil??

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» RE: Conspiracy Posted by: Ellen Remore
» RE: Conspiracy Posted by: lindalee
The Power of Nightmares, a must-see
Posted by: Don on Aug 9, 2006 8:44 PM   
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This film originally aired in the UK in 2004, but has yet to be shown in the States because "rights have not been made available" here. However it is easily available over the internet, and I found the film entirely worth spending three hours to watch. I found the Google Video player to be tricky to operate so in the reply that immediately follows this page you will find detailed instructions.

The flim clarifies exactly what the somewhat mysterious term "Neo-conservative" means. Too bad PBS hasn't had the balls to broadcast it. I think this work was more enlightening than Fahrenheit 911.

In three one-hour episodes, the film explores the origins dating back to the 1940s and 50s of Islamic Fundamentalism in the Middle East and Neoconservatism in America, parallels between these movements, and their effect on the world today. Using archive footage and interviews to describe their extremist agenda of paranoia and fear, it shows how these political and religious ideologies are actually dependent upon each other to generate fear in the general population of people trying to live their daily lives under conditions where these extremists have gained control. Also revealed is the likelihood that al-Qaeda does not exist in the form of a centrally organised world-wide terrorist organisation as we have been lead to believe by governments and news media.

The first episode begins with the following introduction:
"Both the Islamists and Neoconservatives were idealists who were born out of the failure of the liberal dream to build a better world. And both had a very similar explanation for what caused that failure. These two groups have changed the world, but not in the way that either intended. Together, they created today's nightmare vision of a secret, organised evil that threatens the world. A fantasy that politicians then found to restore their power and authority in a disillusioned age. And those with the darkest fears became the most powerful. "

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» HOW TO VIEW THE VIDEO Posted by: Don
uh, that would be h-e-r-o-e-s, genius. (c'mon,did bush write this?)
Posted by: Ellen Remore on Aug 10, 2006 9:48 AM   
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why is it that every last right-winger slaughters the english language? well, to answer my own dumb question, they're all dumb!!

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So What's new?
Posted by: blackinjun on Aug 10, 2006 7:51 PM   
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Oliver Stone, McGraw Hill, Prentice Hall, Houghton Mifflin, Harcourt Brace, Huffington Post, AlterNet (not as bad), hey it makes no difference, control and manipulation of information is key in maintaining a hegemony.

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Wagging the Stone
Posted by: VannaLaRoche on Aug 12, 2006 10:12 AM   
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Co-opting the director who cut his teeth questioning government propaganda and misinformation into shilling for your side is quite an achievement, indeed.

They must've made him an offer he couldn't refuse.

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WAKE UP PEOPLE, YOU'VE BEEN FLIM-FLAMMED, AGAIN
Posted by: jeffrey7 on Aug 13, 2006 7:34 AM   
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Just like Pearl Harbour, 9/11 will prove out to be the biggest conspiracy in the history of America. Yes Americans died in WTC. They were supposed to. You can't raise a fruvor unless you spill some blood. Arabs might have money but they don't have jumbo jet flight schools. What you're seeing in theis mess is just what happens when the truly greedy get together and conspire to make life better for only themselves. Saudi Royal Family got to where they are by killing off those who stood in their way of dominating the Saudi oil fields. A domination they needed U.S. help to get going. The Middle East mens one thing to the Govt/Industrial Complex.......
Money. Half of them work with cash the other uses credit.
Washington said it bes when talking about how to get the land from the Indians. " If we let them aqurie a huge debt, they will do anything to get out from under it,including give up their Land".
The Bushies line of thought is. " If we can scare the People enough,we'll get them to support any action,including Military, to feel secure,then we can make a lot of money off the War.'
If you think I'm full of it. Do a little research on the Bush Family. Interesting Military history. Not as draft dodgers and downed pilots,but as war supporters,directly as in the case of Prescott Bush,who sold lethal goods to the Nazis,in violation of US law, of indirectly as with Bush 1,who in cahoots with Dick Cheney's Haliburton,sold lethals,including poison gasses, to Saddam and Iran,as well as,wepons to Bin Laden. The current petty Tyrant can't seem to eat a pretzel and has a thick teflon hide. Don't worry his I.Q. and his shoe size don't match. His feet are bigger. But he was smart enough to get involved with a heavily layerd plot and see it through,to YOUR
END. This is why the Wealthy should never govern. The toll has always been our Lives and our Freedom. Niether of which do they own.

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Posted by: BalancedMan on Aug 13, 2006 2:52 PM   
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First of all, stop guessing as to what you think the movie will be about. Use the six dollars to buy a ticket (assuming you have smuggled your big screen edibles) and formulate an opinion after the viewing. Is it too early for this movie, most likely. However, you cant blame Oliver Stone, if it wasn't him, some b-level producer would have step to bat and struck out publicly which would crash at the box office and potentially wrinkle the American spirit.

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