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"Slumdog Millionaire": A Hollow Message of Social Justice
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Danny Boyle's "Slumdog Millionaire", perhaps one of the most celebrated films in recent times, tells the rags-to-rajah story of a love-struck Indian boy, Jamal, who, with a little help from "destiny," triumphs over his wretched beginnings in Mumbai's squalid slums. Riding on a wave of rave reviews, "Slumdog" has now won Hollywood's highest tribute, the Academy Award for Best Picture, along with seven more Oscars, including one for Best Director.
These honors will probably add some $100 million to "Slumdog's" box-office takings, as Oscar wins usually do. They will also further enhance the film's fast-growing reputation as an authentic representation of the lives of India's urban poor. So far, most of the awards collected by the film have been accepted in the name of "the children," suggesting that its own cast and crew regard it (and have relentlessly promoted it) not as a cinematically spectacular, musically rich and entertaining work of fiction, which it is, but as a powerful tool of advocacy. Nothing could be more worrying, as "Slumdog", despite all the hype to the contrary, delivers a deeply disempowering narrative about the poor that thoroughly undermines, if not totally negates, its seeming message of social justice.
"Slumdog" has angered many Indians because it tarnishes their perception of their country as a rising economic power and a beacon of democracy. India's English-language papers, read mainly by its middle classes, have carried many bristling reviews of the film that convey an acute sense of wounded national pride. While understandable, the sentiment is not defensible. Though at times embarrassingly contrived, most of the film's heartrending scenarios are inspired by a sad, but well-documented reality.
Corruption is certainly rampant among the police, and many will gladly use torture, though none is probably dim enough to target an articulate, English-speaking man who is already a rising media phenomenon. Beggar-makers do round-up abandoned children and mutilate them in order to make them more sympathetic, though it is highly improbable that any such child will ever chance upon a $100 bill, much less be capable of identifying it by touch and scent alone.
Indeed, if anything, Boyle's magical tale, with its unconvincing one-dimensional characters and absurd plot devices, greatly understates the depth of suffering among India's poor. It is near-impossible, for example, that Jamal would emerge from his ravaged life with a dewy complexion and an upper-class accent. But the real problem with "Slumdog" is neither its characterization of India as just another Third World country, nor, within this, its shallow and largely impressionistic portrayal of poverty.
The film's real problem is that it grossly minimizes the capabilities and even the basic humanity of those it so piously claims to speak for. It is no secret that much of "Slumdog" is meant to reflect life in Dharavi, the 213-hectare spread of slums at the heart of Mumbai. The film's depiction of the legendary Dharavi, which is home to some one million people, is that of a feral wasteland, with little evidence of order, community or compassion. Other than the children, the "slumdogs," no-one is even remotely well-intentioned. Hustlers, thieves, and petty warlords run amok, and even Jamal's schoolteacher, a thin, bespectacled man who introduces him to the Three Musketeers, is inexplicably callous. This is a place of evil and decay; of a raw, chaotic tribalism.
Yet nothing could be further from the truth. Dharavi teems with dynamism and creativity, and is a hub of entrepreneurial activity, in industries such as garment manufacturing, embroidery, pottery, and leather, plastics and food processing. It is estimated that the annual turnover from Dharavi's small businesses is between US$50 to $100 million. Dharavi's lanes are lined with cell-phone retailers and cybercafés, and according to surveys by Microsoft Research India, the slum's residents exhibit a remarkably high absorption of new technologies.
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Posted by: politicky on Feb 23, 2009 11:24 AM
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"The banking system has defrauded most of the population and is now foreclosing on its victims, hardworking families who only wanted a part of the American dream. Because of the current level of foreclosures we are witnessing Encampments of tent cities -- many of them home to once middle-class families fallen victim to the economic downturn. Tent cities have formed in or near large urban areas including Reno, Los Angeles, Chattanooga, Columbus, St. Petersburg, Seattle and Portland."
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Posted by: Drclaw on Feb 23, 2009 1:20 PM
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As an alternative, I suggest City of God. This movie, about the favellas (of Rio, I think) was made by an independent film maker, using people from the community, and the proceeds have gone to support development work for the folks living in this, rather unhealthy, environment. You may not come out with a smile on your face (although it's a fine flick), but it seems a lot less hypocritical than "feeling" the pain of the Indian slums for the 90 minutes spent in a dark theatre, and tossing your empathy away the moment the popcorn is finished.
I supsect I'll get flamed for taking this all too seriously, but wth.
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Posted by: login@bugmenot.com on Feb 23, 2009 3:37 PM
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While the movie wasn't perfect in its portrayal, it did an amazing job at highlighting the general aspect of the Mumbai Slums. The fact that it wasn't all lights and dazzle, keeping from the traditional Hollywoodfication of stories, kept its genuine intent intact.
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Posted by: DrBrian on Feb 24, 2009 1:00 AM
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In a sense I treat the symptoms, but the underlying causes of social and economic injustice are worsening as neoliberal theories wreck the world economy.
Slum life is Hobbesian: poor, nasty, brutish and short.
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Posted by: Jay Randal on Feb 24, 2009 1:15 AM
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Posted by: cordas on Feb 24, 2009 1:43 AM
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It bugs the hell out of me when people make arguements like the ones made in this article, why is it that some idiots are such killjoys that they can't realise that this is a work of fiction and not a factual socail commentary. Also why don't these retards realise that their arguements actually do their cause more harm than good with the vast majority of people?
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Feb 24, 2009 2:27 AM
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Indian Bollywood wouldn't have done it - because it is much too embarrassing to Indian National pride.
The British producers of this film should be congratulated to have taken an enormous risk to finance this film themselves entirely from British sources.
I knew it was a masterpiece within 10 minutes of the start and was completely engrossed. I knew absolutely nothing whatsoever about the film. My wife just said come and watch this. We took an Indian friend with us - who went to college in Mumbai. She too was stunned.
Sure it doesn't portray a pretty tourist picture - and will definitely put off some potential tourists if they have never actually visited India.
But that's not the point. The film does betray a basic truth with regards to the massive difference between extreme wealth and extreme poverty which is endemic in India and many other Asian countries.
It should shock Government to attempt to do something about it.
The World is not how Hollywood portrays it. This film may have taken some artistic liberties to entertain and shock - but it is just a film.
My own experience is that I have always felt perfectly safe even in the poorest parts of India. There are other parts of the World where I would fear to tread.
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Posted by: outlook on Feb 24, 2009 3:56 AM
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Posted by: indudutt on Feb 24, 2009 4:13 AM
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And again - it is unfortunately NOT being seen just as a work of fiction, as the author points out. The parading around of those children at the Oscars was self-serving and opportunistic to say the least. In the end SM's makers are getting the last laugh, with their millions of additional dollars! what a joke.
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Posted by: Hovey on Feb 24, 2009 5:35 AM
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Posted by: HelperMonkey on Feb 24, 2009 6:21 AM
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And as for the slightly contrived, destiny-driven sense of the film... well that was the point. India is a spiritual place, people believe in that kind of thing, so what a great vehicle to drive the plot I say. Many indian stories are driven by destiny, and this film dares to break the hollywood mould by giving them a nod (without being bollywood). By the way, I think destiny and spirituality are a pile of crap, but that doesn't mean that a film which honestly uses that approach is bad.
What I saw was a film unlike most that you see, with a cast of unknowns; a feelgood flick which shows the brutal reality of such a place at the same time; a film which used a relevant cultural vehicle (destiny) honestly (so much so that 'destiny' appears in the tagline for the film). It didn't need to be, and isn't, a political statement.
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Posted by: Allstar Cookie on Feb 24, 2009 6:30 AM
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Alternet, of course has the sub-head "Despite all the hype, "Slumdog" delivers a patronizing and ultimately sham statement on social justice."
Lighten up Alternet!!! It's just a movie.
It's a love story and it was a fun movie to watch. It's not supposed to be a social commentary about the poorest conditions in India.
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Posted by: AJR Journal on Feb 24, 2009 7:18 AM
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You mean Bombay is not really like that? You have to be kidding me.
But this AlterNet, everything here is catastrophic, criminal, exploitative, etc.
Go see Slumdog Millionaire, you will love it, too.
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Posted by: Deep on Feb 24, 2009 7:51 AM
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The reaction to Slumdog Millionaire, by Indians(both on the subcontinent and in the diaspora) is the rest of the world's introduction to the diversity of India. You're going to get a billion different viewpoints of the same thing. You had people in Dharavi protesting the movie, because of the connection to dogs. For those of you who have not been to India, there are stray dogs everywhere and are considered very dirty. And then there are people in that same slum who are very excited about the movie and see it as a source of pride.
Same with wealthy Indians. Some see it as an attack and a mocking on their fragile ego. Other's see it as a way of showing the rest of the world of how India is changing to an economic power.
What I hope that non-brown people and even my fellow brown people, get out of this movie, is that the places like Dharavi are far more dynamic than people could ever imagine. They're not sitting around crying for pity. They are not waiting for Bono to come by. People live their lives, day to day. Making the best out of what they have. Like Salim-Jamal's brother-in the movie, many enter gangs and mafia outfits who fill in the gaps where the system had failed. Many however are small-time entrepreneurs who are simply exploiting opportunities they see, relying on their wits and instincts. Bearing the traits they preach at Harvard Business School.
Slumdog Millionaire is mainly a feel good movie, and is entertainment. There are million different messages one can take out. It can be a reinforcement of whatever you think about India. What I, as an Indian-American, is that non-desis see Indians as more human than they are used to.
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Posted by: arun.jacob on Feb 24, 2009 9:47 AM
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If we agree on the premise that the message is hollow - let us ask about the medium. Why focus on the Indian Film Industry? Anil Ambani has been investing billions that's why. High profile Hollywood production companies have been roped in. If Nicolas Cage, Jim Carrey, George Clooney, Chris Columbus, Tom Hanks, Brad Pitt, Jay Roach,Julia Roberts and Brett Ratner are putting their names and production companies on the line - they expect you to watch the movies that are going to be made. Slumdog Millionaire winning the Oscar is not any indication of the quality of the production itself rather it is about opening the floodgates to the outsourcing hollywood movie production.
Let us wind the clocks back 15 years ago to 1994 and ask the question - Why did Aishwarya Rai and Sushmita Sen win the Miss World and Miss Universe contests respectively? To jumpstart the cosmetic industry in India. The commerce of beauty products can directly be attributed to the accolades won by beauty queens.
If that is the case in cosmetics why can it not be case in the film industry?
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Posted by: 113121 on Feb 24, 2009 11:21 AM
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Posted by: DaBear on Feb 24, 2009 1:23 PM
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But for the Owning Class, be they Indian or Amerikaan, people might be able to solve poverty once and for all.
Oh but wait! Slumbdog's fiction... therefore it is absolved of all responsibility... classic Owning-class kool-aid tactics. Just drink more of this and you too will become rich and famous....
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Posted by: DaBear on Feb 24, 2009 1:27 PM
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But hey, Slumdog Millionaire is fiction... a real feel good, happy happy.. the underdog wins... yay.
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Posted by: dulali.nag on Feb 24, 2009 11:16 PM
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It seems to me too many issues are getting confused in the reviews. Are we reviewing SDM the film or are we protesting all the hype around it, or are we rating it for its documentary excellence or are we debating here the relation between films and reality? If we could be careful about separating these issues in our comments, I think we can avoid both the excessive outrage at the alleged "patronization" as well as the completely non-critical stance by dismissing it as a "fiction". I myself want to limit my comments to SDM as a "film", regardless of the national origin of the team that produced it. Because it seems to me that that is where the confusion rises. Mainstream popular Hindi films are no less "patronizing" than SDM is, the only difference being that they are produced by teams of Indian origin. Here I think some Britishers have tried to make a "Bollywood" film, only since they were also targetting the Western market they had to mix English and Hindi in the dialogues so that Western viewers would be able to follow the story line. Though that very fact has taken away a great deal from the quality of the filmic representation of India, for English spoken in a police station in Mumbai simply feels absolutely unrealistic to Indian audiences. But other than that, there is nothing in the film that is either better or worse than mainstream Hindi films. Why it got so many awards is another story again, which is cultural-political and economic to its core.
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Posted by: brianct on Feb 25, 2009 6:54 PM
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'It is estimated that the annual turnover from Dharavi's small businesses is between US$50 to $100 million. Dharavi's lanes are lined with cell-phone retailers and cybercafés, and according to surveys by Microsoft Research India, the slum's residents exhibit a remarkably high absorption of new technologies.'
One of those new technologies ,cell phones, means using cell phone towers, which have angered communities in Uk andrest of europe...why? because they can cause brain and other cancers:
mast victims
Who will pay for their treatment when the cancers become evident?
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Posted by: pitipua on Feb 28, 2009 1:39 PM
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Posted by: pest on Mar 1, 2009 4:33 PM
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. HOWEVER, THIS CONDITION CAN ALSO BE SEEN IN THE RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD-THE USA.
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Posted by: barnabypage on Mar 3, 2009 7:31 AM
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The thing that I do find rather ironic is that a more realistic portrayal of the slums, acknowledging that they are often hives of economic activity and not always as deprived as we in the West might think (except of course in terms of housing), would probably have been rejected by Western audiences as rose-tinted...
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Posted by: politicky on Feb 23, 2009 11:24 AM
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"The banking system has defrauded most of the population and is now foreclosing on its victims, hardworking families who only wanted a part of the American dream. Because of the current level of foreclosures we are witnessing Encampments of tent cities -- many of them home to once middle-class families fallen victim to the economic downturn. Tent cities have formed in or near large urban areas including Reno, Los Angeles, Chattanooga, Columbus, St. Petersburg, Seattle and Portland."
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Posted by: Drclaw on Feb 23, 2009 1:20 PM
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As an alternative, I suggest City of God. This movie, about the favellas (of Rio, I think) was made by an independent film maker, using people from the community, and the proceeds have gone to support development work for the folks living in this, rather unhealthy, environment. You may not come out with a smile on your face (although it's a fine flick), but it seems a lot less hypocritical than "feeling" the pain of the Indian slums for the 90 minutes spent in a dark theatre, and tossing your empathy away the moment the popcorn is finished.
I supsect I'll get flamed for taking this all too seriously, but wth.
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Posted by: login@bugmenot.com on Feb 23, 2009 3:37 PM
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While the movie wasn't perfect in its portrayal, it did an amazing job at highlighting the general aspect of the Mumbai Slums. The fact that it wasn't all lights and dazzle, keeping from the traditional Hollywoodfication of stories, kept its genuine intent intact.
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Posted by: DrBrian on Feb 24, 2009 1:00 AM
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In a sense I treat the symptoms, but the underlying causes of social and economic injustice are worsening as neoliberal theories wreck the world economy.
Slum life is Hobbesian: poor, nasty, brutish and short.
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Posted by: Jay Randal on Feb 24, 2009 1:15 AM
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Posted by: cordas on Feb 24, 2009 1:43 AM
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It bugs the hell out of me when people make arguements like the ones made in this article, why is it that some idiots are such killjoys that they can't realise that this is a work of fiction and not a factual socail commentary. Also why don't these retards realise that their arguements actually do their cause more harm than good with the vast majority of people?
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Feb 24, 2009 2:27 AM
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Indian Bollywood wouldn't have done it - because it is much too embarrassing to Indian National pride.
The British producers of this film should be congratulated to have taken an enormous risk to finance this film themselves entirely from British sources.
I knew it was a masterpiece within 10 minutes of the start and was completely engrossed. I knew absolutely nothing whatsoever about the film. My wife just said come and watch this. We took an Indian friend with us - who went to college in Mumbai. She too was stunned.
Sure it doesn't portray a pretty tourist picture - and will definitely put off some potential tourists if they have never actually visited India.
But that's not the point. The film does betray a basic truth with regards to the massive difference between extreme wealth and extreme poverty which is endemic in India and many other Asian countries.
It should shock Government to attempt to do something about it.
The World is not how Hollywood portrays it. This film may have taken some artistic liberties to entertain and shock - but it is just a film.
My own experience is that I have always felt perfectly safe even in the poorest parts of India. There are other parts of the World where I would fear to tread.
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Posted by: outlook on Feb 24, 2009 3:56 AM
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Posted by: indudutt on Feb 24, 2009 3:58 AM
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Posted by: indudutt on Feb 24, 2009 4:13 AM
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And again - it is unfortunately NOT being seen just as a work of fiction, as the author points out. The parading around of those children at the Oscars was self-serving and opportunistic to say the least. In the end SM's makers are getting the last laugh, with their millions of additional dollars! what a joke.
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Posted by: Hovey on Feb 24, 2009 5:35 AM
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Posted by: HelperMonkey on Feb 24, 2009 6:21 AM
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And as for the slightly contrived, destiny-driven sense of the film... well that was the point. India is a spiritual place, people believe in that kind of thing, so what a great vehicle to drive the plot I say. Many indian stories are driven by destiny, and this film dares to break the hollywood mould by giving them a nod (without being bollywood). By the way, I think destiny and spirituality are a pile of crap, but that doesn't mean that a film which honestly uses that approach is bad.
What I saw was a film unlike most that you see, with a cast of unknowns; a feelgood flick which shows the brutal reality of such a place at the same time; a film which used a relevant cultural vehicle (destiny) honestly (so much so that 'destiny' appears in the tagline for the film). It didn't need to be, and isn't, a political statement.
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Posted by: Allstar Cookie on Feb 24, 2009 6:30 AM
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Alternet, of course has the sub-head "Despite all the hype, "Slumdog" delivers a patronizing and ultimately sham statement on social justice."
Lighten up Alternet!!! It's just a movie.
It's a love story and it was a fun movie to watch. It's not supposed to be a social commentary about the poorest conditions in India.
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Posted by: AJR Journal on Feb 24, 2009 7:18 AM
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You mean Bombay is not really like that? You have to be kidding me.
But this AlterNet, everything here is catastrophic, criminal, exploitative, etc.
Go see Slumdog Millionaire, you will love it, too.
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Posted by: Deep on Feb 24, 2009 7:51 AM
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The reaction to Slumdog Millionaire, by Indians(both on the subcontinent and in the diaspora) is the rest of the world's introduction to the diversity of India. You're going to get a billion different viewpoints of the same thing. You had people in Dharavi protesting the movie, because of the connection to dogs. For those of you who have not been to India, there are stray dogs everywhere and are considered very dirty. And then there are people in that same slum who are very excited about the movie and see it as a source of pride.
Same with wealthy Indians. Some see it as an attack and a mocking on their fragile ego. Other's see it as a way of showing the rest of the world of how India is changing to an economic power.
What I hope that non-brown people and even my fellow brown people, get out of this movie, is that the places like Dharavi are far more dynamic than people could ever imagine. They're not sitting around crying for pity. They are not waiting for Bono to come by. People live their lives, day to day. Making the best out of what they have. Like Salim-Jamal's brother-in the movie, many enter gangs and mafia outfits who fill in the gaps where the system had failed. Many however are small-time entrepreneurs who are simply exploiting opportunities they see, relying on their wits and instincts. Bearing the traits they preach at Harvard Business School.
Slumdog Millionaire is mainly a feel good movie, and is entertainment. There are million different messages one can take out. It can be a reinforcement of whatever you think about India. What I, as an Indian-American, is that non-desis see Indians as more human than they are used to.
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Posted by: arun.jacob on Feb 24, 2009 9:47 AM
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If we agree on the premise that the message is hollow - let us ask about the medium. Why focus on the Indian Film Industry? Anil Ambani has been investing billions that's why. High profile Hollywood production companies have been roped in. If Nicolas Cage, Jim Carrey, George Clooney, Chris Columbus, Tom Hanks, Brad Pitt, Jay Roach,Julia Roberts and Brett Ratner are putting their names and production companies on the line - they expect you to watch the movies that are going to be made. Slumdog Millionaire winning the Oscar is not any indication of the quality of the production itself rather it is about opening the floodgates to the outsourcing hollywood movie production.
Let us wind the clocks back 15 years ago to 1994 and ask the question - Why did Aishwarya Rai and Sushmita Sen win the Miss World and Miss Universe contests respectively? To jumpstart the cosmetic industry in India. The commerce of beauty products can directly be attributed to the accolades won by beauty queens.
If that is the case in cosmetics why can it not be case in the film industry?
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Posted by: 113121 on Feb 24, 2009 11:21 AM
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Posted by: DaBear on Feb 24, 2009 1:23 PM
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But for the Owning Class, be they Indian or Amerikaan, people might be able to solve poverty once and for all.
Oh but wait! Slumbdog's fiction... therefore it is absolved of all responsibility... classic Owning-class kool-aid tactics. Just drink more of this and you too will become rich and famous....
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Posted by: DaBear on Feb 24, 2009 1:27 PM
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But hey, Slumdog Millionaire is fiction... a real feel good, happy happy.. the underdog wins... yay.
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Posted by: dulali.nag on Feb 24, 2009 11:16 PM
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It seems to me too many issues are getting confused in the reviews. Are we reviewing SDM the film or are we protesting all the hype around it, or are we rating it for its documentary excellence or are we debating here the relation between films and reality? If we could be careful about separating these issues in our comments, I think we can avoid both the excessive outrage at the alleged "patronization" as well as the completely non-critical stance by dismissing it as a "fiction". I myself want to limit my comments to SDM as a "film", regardless of the national origin of the team that produced it. Because it seems to me that that is where the confusion rises. Mainstream popular Hindi films are no less "patronizing" than SDM is, the only difference being that they are produced by teams of Indian origin. Here I think some Britishers have tried to make a "Bollywood" film, only since they were also targetting the Western market they had to mix English and Hindi in the dialogues so that Western viewers would be able to follow the story line. Though that very fact has taken away a great deal from the quality of the filmic representation of India, for English spoken in a police station in Mumbai simply feels absolutely unrealistic to Indian audiences. But other than that, there is nothing in the film that is either better or worse than mainstream Hindi films. Why it got so many awards is another story again, which is cultural-political and economic to its core.
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Posted by: brianct on Feb 25, 2009 6:54 PM
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'It is estimated that the annual turnover from Dharavi's small businesses is between US$50 to $100 million. Dharavi's lanes are lined with cell-phone retailers and cybercafés, and according to surveys by Microsoft Research India, the slum's residents exhibit a remarkably high absorption of new technologies.'
One of those new technologies ,cell phones, means using cell phone towers, which have angered communities in Uk andrest of europe...why? because they can cause brain and other cancers:
mast victims
Who will pay for their treatment when the cancers become evident?
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Posted by: pitipua on Feb 28, 2009 1:39 PM
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Posted by: pest on Mar 1, 2009 4:33 PM
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. HOWEVER, THIS CONDITION CAN ALSO BE SEEN IN THE RICHEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD-THE USA.
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Posted by: barnabypage on Mar 3, 2009 7:31 AM
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The thing that I do find rather ironic is that a more realistic portrayal of the slums, acknowledging that they are often hives of economic activity and not always as deprived as we in the West might think (except of course in terms of housing), would probably have been rejected by Western audiences as rose-tinted...
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