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The Lee Atwater Story: Meet the Man Responsible for Karl Rove and the GOP's Hate-Driven Politics
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Forbes' "Boogie Man: The Lee Atwater Story" is a magnificent documentary that focuses on Atwater, a horrible but fascinating character. From Atwater's quick rise in the College Republicans during the time of Nixon, through his years in the Reagan White House, to the height of his political career as George H.W. Bush's '88 campaign manager and head of the RNC, Forbes shows how negative campaigning, manipulating the media and flat-out lying seemed to come as easy to Lee Atwater as picking his beloved blues guitar.
But "Boogie Man" isn't just about the bloodthirsty win-at-all-costs side of Atwater. Forbes does an incredible job of highlighting the undercurrents of Atwater's life and times that helped shape him as a person as well as a political powerhouse, such as his upbringing in the South with its deep scars and racial tensions, the childhood loss of his brother, the excess and uber-ambitious attitudes of the '80s, and, perhaps most importantly, his charm. Liberal journalist Eric Alterman, despite all of his distaste for Atwater's negative style, describes Lee Atwater as "the most fun man I ever met," and with the amount of film that Forbes has of Atwater singing, playing guitar and generally having a good time, it shows.
But even with all his charisma, it's hard not to watch "Boogie Man" without focusing on the fact that if there hadn't been an Atwater, George H.W. Bush or even Ronald Reagan may never have been elected. Karl Rove would not be the power player he is today, and George W. Bush (who became friends with Atwater during his father's presidential campaign) wouldn't have learned the worst lesson in politics: winning at all costs. This is the lesson that is Atwater's legacy, shown by many of the stories from those interviewed who were left much worse off for being on the wrong side of Atwater's insidious politics (the most interesting of these being Mike Dukakis ... Willie Horton, anyone?).
Forbes tells Atwater's whole story, ending with the sudden illness that led to Atwater's death at the young age of 40, and the supposed remorse that he felt about the undignified way that he had affected politics. Remorseful or not, Atwater had an influence that can be seen in modern politics today, and it looks like many of his tactics are here to stay. Take the time to learn about the man who took dirty politics to a whole new level, and the next time you hear someone describe McCain's current campaign as "Rovian," correct them. It is "Atwateresque."
"Boogie Man: The Lee Atwater Story" opens this Friday, October 17 at the Opera Plaza Cinema, 601 Van Ness Avenue, in San Francisco.
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Posted by: NoMcCainPalin on Oct 16, 2008 1:39 AM
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Here are three extracts from the piece titled, “Love Him, Hate Him,” by John F. Dickinson and Karen Tumult
If Ronald Reagan was the Great Communicator, Bush is proving to be the Great Polarizer. Reagan and then Bill Clinton ushered in the modern age of the acrimoniously divided electorate, but George Bush has cleaved the nation into two tenaciously opposed camps even more than his predecessors. He is the man about whom Americans feel little ambivalence. People tend to love him or hate him without any complicating shades of gray.
Karl Rove carries in his briefcase a laminated card to help remind him of the central dynamic of the 2004 election. It shows five neat bar graphs for each presidential election since 1988 and last year's midterm election. Republicans are in red, Democrats are in blue, and between them a shrinking wedge of green shows the independent voter, a segment that has diminished with each contest.
It is clear that in his quest for a second term, Bush is seeking to be the beneficiary of an America separated into two opposing camps. By default or design, the Democrats are mirroring this tactic. It’s an ancient strategy: divide and conquer.
Finally, if you're an undecided voter, please learn more about Unfit McCain and his treasonous POW record by clicking on: Vote Against McCain (one of the HOTTEST anti-McCain sites on the Web)
Other websites freedom-loving Americans should visit, especially veterans like myself, are:
How McCain Betrayed His Fellow Vets
Iraq Vets Against the War
U.S. Veterans Dispatch
Vietnam Vets Against John McCain
Veterans Voice
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Oct 16, 2008 1:52 AM
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But what a legacy he's left behind. Our national political conversation has been polluted by the likes of Lee Attwater - and Karl Rove. Ultimately, he did irreparable harm to this country. In the end, Attwater himself understood this.
Tom Degan
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Posted by: nobuko on Oct 16, 2008 5:48 AM
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How White folks STILL drink the Kool-aid, is just unbelievable. Apparently, it took almost 8 years of White Man's GREED, to wake up many racist white folks; and STILL some would rather eat dirt, than give a Person of Color an opportunity!
How many, can consider, these Negative Ads, the LIES, how many People have sold their souls to support these EVIL DOER'S, to win and DESTROY our Country, BRILLANT TACTIC'S, is just disgusting! I don't see anything Smart or Intellectual in what they've done, I believe its just down right STUPIDITY on Americans part for drinking the Kool-aid, in helping bring America to its Knees!
I sure hope the heck, the MILLIONS of Americans who voted for Bush, 2 terms, are "HAPPY NOW," that they won, and the Rest of us, "Should get Over it!
Welcome, We KNEW this was coming, you guys were TOO STUPID, GULLIBLE, EVIL, GREEDY, & SELFISH, then again, WANTED America to become another 3rd World Country! Now, We're truly, "ALL IN THIS TOGETHER!"
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Posted by: PakiBoy on Oct 16, 2008 5:58 AM
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Case in point:
1. Ayers association with Obama has received a lot more coverage in MSM.
But hardly any coverage has been given to Todd Palin's membership in secessiont Alaska Independence Party. And no mention of Governor Palin's video-taped address to AIP's convention.
2. Pastor problem
Rev. Wright's good name has been smeared because a black had the audacity to condemn America for perpetrating well-documented violence around the world and against minorities at home.
Yet, hardly any coverage to Falwell's, Graham's, Hagee's condemnation of America and Americans for 9/11, Katrina.
Also, hardly any mention in MSM of Palin's witch-doctor Pastor.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Oct 16, 2008 7:12 AM
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As for Rove, karma is a beast (maybe he should remember Atwater did pass away young) so he should take heed. Maybe Atwater did come to repent what he did, but it really was too little too late!
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Oct 16, 2008 7:45 AM
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I was a bit young for Nixon (Clinically Paranoid), But survived the Surreal Reagan Years. Having A Minor in Gerontology....I saw the Alzheimers in Hindsight during his Second Admin. Iran Contra was not only Revealed the Treason committed against Carter, it exposed Ronny's mental 'glitches' as In "I couldn't tell you what I had for Breakfast" He was not exaggerating, He was telling the truth you could see it in his vacant Eyes.The Non Koolaid Drinkers of the Time, Pushed to avoid the Slippery slope,easily detected, ahead. Union busting, Military Build Up, Ignoring the Foreshadowing of GRID (AIDS) and the OIL/Auto dynamic, Wall Street Bubbles & Busts (Keating).And Of course the most Agregous attack upon our Free Democratic Society the Moral Majority (Should Just call themselves the Roman Catholic Church of the Dark Ages or for a more current reference 'the Christian Tailban').
they got these Holy Rollers so Confused theyhaven't even realized they are unable to follow EVEN the 10 Commandments!a Frothing Religious Fervor.
You Do realize 'waterboarding' is akin to a technique employed by 'witch Hunters', the Inquistioners,Which Ever 'Church ' held Power over All Others. And What do these Fanatics Want a Unifying power structure built between Church & State. Who's a 'Patriot'?
Have no doubt the State can poison Your Religion Too. Catholic & Protestants are Both 'Christian' Sects, and they slaughtered each other every chance they got, Depending on which Was in Power over the State.
Kinda the Reason OUR ancestors Got the Hell Out of there and built a new Free Democracy - 'For the People and By the People' and Proclaimed 'all men are Creatd Equal' as prescribed by the teaching 'We are all Gods Creations'It's time we Untwist the Web these Decievers have created for the Faithful and Release them from these UnAmerican and Heretical Chains which Bind them
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Posted by: 8 nontheist on Oct 16, 2008 8:09 AM
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Posted by: Sannity on Oct 16, 2008 9:38 AM
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Stepson of a homosexual he made certain to include non-issue gay marriages onto ballots in states where "low information voters" would get off their keesters and rush, in fear, to vote, assumably against them thar lib'rals and their godless agenda.
Don't for an instance think Rove wasn't or isn't behind the downright undemocratic disenfranchising of minority voters through illegal means and intimidation, the Orwellian perversion of our very language to sell the covetousness of the few as being good for all, to disparage a real decorated Vietnam Veteren over the coddled rich son of a CIA agent who, not only obtained a soft spot to hide in (over those who were already in line, some of whom may have met their end in that conflict), but didn't even fulfill the paltry duties assigned him.
Rove politicized the Justice Department to the Just Us Club, invented the Lewis Carrol Looking Glass ignoring of subpoenas and "signing statements" that cartoonishly wish away the very Constitution itself and the jailing of Governors merely because they were in his way.
I understand what the WSJ and FOX are all about, they, like CNBC, are populated by drunks and wanna-bes who've been smarmy cheerleaders for the tinkle-on economics and the Wall St. Ponzi scheme that has brought us to this point. I'll admit I enjoyed the panic on the faces and in the words of these snarky sycophants when they were begging the hoi polloi they've been ripping off to pass the huge con of giving them money that hasn't even been printed. Sadly, they pulled it off despite the fact that an overwhelming majority of middle/working class citizens were against it, and lo, here we are losing money before it's made.
Why would anyone show respect for an unelected and unelectable cynic who has, after all, brought us the most obtuse and least curious "leader" in our history? Where, pray tell, do the WSJ and FOX think this is headed? And how could you possibly see any benefit in the awakening and angering of the populace?
A guillotine in every county!
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Posted by: hadashito on Oct 16, 2008 10:40 AM
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But very few among the general public know the identities of other well trained Atwater & Rove "proteges" who have been operating at full steam for nearly as long as Rove has been in his business of destroying our political lives and his own Republican Party along with the rest.
An article ("Boys' Night Out: 'The Politico Guys'. Rove's Top Disciple and how our press corps works") in SALON.COM, OCt. 12, identifies
two of them:
Tim Griffin, now a US Attorney thanks to a Rove plot and extensive program of dirty work to replace the legitimate US Attorney with Rove's boy.
Jonathan Martin is the other. He now works for the "Politico" website as a blogger and who knows what else after a very interesting career of Rovian skulduggery. Whether he has ceased political hit jobs and dirty work is extremely doubtful. I'll betcha he's still at it under the cover of "legitimate' commentator.
The Salon article also cites a documentary by Greg Palast that exposes much more regarding the Rove/Griffin caper.
How many more are out there ? Who knows ? Our political system has been infected by a cadre of criminal goons masquerading as all sorts of "legitimate" political operatives. You can bet the lobbyist community is well represented with Rove 's boys.
The reason for their proliferation is that media commentators and reporters (and editors and publishers ?) just love these guys because they are so impressed with how "with it", cnfident, cool, and "savvy" they are about the political scene around DC. I have heard and seen and least one commentator nearly swoon and express her admiration for Karl Rove openly on TV; namely, Gloria Borger. She has toned down lately now that Rove is under the watchful eye of Congressional committees. But the amateurs and career seekers among the media, especially in the capital, haven't yet caught on to their folly. If the "Rovian" virus has spread, it is largely the fault of the DC press corps and media who have fallen in love with a con man who has so easily and thoroughly bamboozled them.
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Posted by: hadashito on Oct 16, 2008 10:40 AM
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But very few among the general public know the identities of other well trained Atwater & Rove "proteges" who have been operating at full steam for nearly as long as Rove has been in his business of destroying our political lives and his own Republican Party along with the rest.
An article ("Boys' Night Out: 'The Politico Guys'. Rove's Top Disciple and how our press corps works") in SALON.COM, OCt. 12, identifies
two of them:
Tim Griffin, now a US Attorney thanks to a Rove plot and extensive program of dirty work to replace the legitimate US Attorney with Rove's boy.
Jonathan Martin is the other. He now works for the "Politico" website as a blogger and who knows what else after a very interesting career of Rovian skulduggery. Whether he has ceased political hit jobs and dirty work is extremely doubtful. I'll betcha he's still at it under the cover of "legitimate' commentator.
The Salon article also cites a documentary by Greg Palast that exposes much more regarding the Rove/Griffin caper.
How many more are out there ? Who knows ? Our political system has been infected by a cadre of criminal goons masquerading as all sorts of "legitimate" political operatives. You can bet the lobbyist community is well represented with Rove 's boys.
The reason for their proliferation is that media commentators and reporters (and editors and publishers ?) just love these guys because they are so impressed with how "with it", cnfident, cool, and "savvy" they are about the political scene around DC. I have heard and seen and least one commentator nearly swoon and express her admiration for Karl Rove openly on TV; namely, Gloria Borger. She has toned down lately now that Rove is under the watchful eye of Congressional committees. But the amateurs and career seekers among the media, especially in the capital, haven't yet caught on to their folly. If the "Rovian" virus has spread, it is largely the fault of the DC press corps and media who have fallen in love with a con man who has so easily and thoroughly bamboozled them.
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Oct 16, 2008 2:48 PM
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I talk to too many young people who are disgusted with BushII and Rove. I tell them that "you need to study your history" and realize that these two guys had a "John the Baptist" in this slimey snake Atwater. And what really got me about the guy was his folksy "aw shucks" manner, hiding a vicious and predatory temprement. If a wolf could sing like a canary to attract a sheep, it would do it.
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Posted by: NoMcCainPalin on Oct 16, 2008 1:39 AM
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Here are three extracts from the piece titled, “Love Him, Hate Him,” by John F. Dickinson and Karen Tumult
If Ronald Reagan was the Great Communicator, Bush is proving to be the Great Polarizer. Reagan and then Bill Clinton ushered in the modern age of the acrimoniously divided electorate, but George Bush has cleaved the nation into two tenaciously opposed camps even more than his predecessors. He is the man about whom Americans feel little ambivalence. People tend to love him or hate him without any complicating shades of gray.
Karl Rove carries in his briefcase a laminated card to help remind him of the central dynamic of the 2004 election. It shows five neat bar graphs for each presidential election since 1988 and last year's midterm election. Republicans are in red, Democrats are in blue, and between them a shrinking wedge of green shows the independent voter, a segment that has diminished with each contest.
It is clear that in his quest for a second term, Bush is seeking to be the beneficiary of an America separated into two opposing camps. By default or design, the Democrats are mirroring this tactic. It’s an ancient strategy: divide and conquer.
Finally, if you're an undecided voter, please learn more about Unfit McCain and his treasonous POW record by clicking on: Vote Against McCain (one of the HOTTEST anti-McCain sites on the Web)
Other websites freedom-loving Americans should visit, especially veterans like myself, are:
How McCain Betrayed His Fellow Vets
Iraq Vets Against the War
U.S. Veterans Dispatch
Vietnam Vets Against John McCain
Veterans Voice
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Oct 16, 2008 1:52 AM
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But what a legacy he's left behind. Our national political conversation has been polluted by the likes of Lee Attwater - and Karl Rove. Ultimately, he did irreparable harm to this country. In the end, Attwater himself understood this.
Tom Degan
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Posted by: nobuko on Oct 16, 2008 5:48 AM
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How White folks STILL drink the Kool-aid, is just unbelievable. Apparently, it took almost 8 years of White Man's GREED, to wake up many racist white folks; and STILL some would rather eat dirt, than give a Person of Color an opportunity!
How many, can consider, these Negative Ads, the LIES, how many People have sold their souls to support these EVIL DOER'S, to win and DESTROY our Country, BRILLANT TACTIC'S, is just disgusting! I don't see anything Smart or Intellectual in what they've done, I believe its just down right STUPIDITY on Americans part for drinking the Kool-aid, in helping bring America to its Knees!
I sure hope the heck, the MILLIONS of Americans who voted for Bush, 2 terms, are "HAPPY NOW," that they won, and the Rest of us, "Should get Over it!
Welcome, We KNEW this was coming, you guys were TOO STUPID, GULLIBLE, EVIL, GREEDY, & SELFISH, then again, WANTED America to become another 3rd World Country! Now, We're truly, "ALL IN THIS TOGETHER!"
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Posted by: PakiBoy on Oct 16, 2008 5:58 AM
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Case in point:
1. Ayers association with Obama has received a lot more coverage in MSM.
But hardly any coverage has been given to Todd Palin's membership in secessiont Alaska Independence Party. And no mention of Governor Palin's video-taped address to AIP's convention.
2. Pastor problem
Rev. Wright's good name has been smeared because a black had the audacity to condemn America for perpetrating well-documented violence around the world and against minorities at home.
Yet, hardly any coverage to Falwell's, Graham's, Hagee's condemnation of America and Americans for 9/11, Katrina.
Also, hardly any mention in MSM of Palin's witch-doctor Pastor.
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Oct 16, 2008 7:12 AM
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As for Rove, karma is a beast (maybe he should remember Atwater did pass away young) so he should take heed. Maybe Atwater did come to repent what he did, but it really was too little too late!
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Oct 16, 2008 7:45 AM
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I was a bit young for Nixon (Clinically Paranoid), But survived the Surreal Reagan Years. Having A Minor in Gerontology....I saw the Alzheimers in Hindsight during his Second Admin. Iran Contra was not only Revealed the Treason committed against Carter, it exposed Ronny's mental 'glitches' as In "I couldn't tell you what I had for Breakfast" He was not exaggerating, He was telling the truth you could see it in his vacant Eyes.The Non Koolaid Drinkers of the Time, Pushed to avoid the Slippery slope,easily detected, ahead. Union busting, Military Build Up, Ignoring the Foreshadowing of GRID (AIDS) and the OIL/Auto dynamic, Wall Street Bubbles & Busts (Keating).And Of course the most Agregous attack upon our Free Democratic Society the Moral Majority (Should Just call themselves the Roman Catholic Church of the Dark Ages or for a more current reference 'the Christian Tailban').
they got these Holy Rollers so Confused theyhaven't even realized they are unable to follow EVEN the 10 Commandments!a Frothing Religious Fervor.
You Do realize 'waterboarding' is akin to a technique employed by 'witch Hunters', the Inquistioners,Which Ever 'Church ' held Power over All Others. And What do these Fanatics Want a Unifying power structure built between Church & State. Who's a 'Patriot'?
Have no doubt the State can poison Your Religion Too. Catholic & Protestants are Both 'Christian' Sects, and they slaughtered each other every chance they got, Depending on which Was in Power over the State.
Kinda the Reason OUR ancestors Got the Hell Out of there and built a new Free Democracy - 'For the People and By the People' and Proclaimed 'all men are Creatd Equal' as prescribed by the teaching 'We are all Gods Creations'It's time we Untwist the Web these Decievers have created for the Faithful and Release them from these UnAmerican and Heretical Chains which Bind them
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Posted by: 8 nontheist on Oct 16, 2008 8:09 AM
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Posted by: Sannity on Oct 16, 2008 9:38 AM
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Stepson of a homosexual he made certain to include non-issue gay marriages onto ballots in states where "low information voters" would get off their keesters and rush, in fear, to vote, assumably against them thar lib'rals and their godless agenda.
Don't for an instance think Rove wasn't or isn't behind the downright undemocratic disenfranchising of minority voters through illegal means and intimidation, the Orwellian perversion of our very language to sell the covetousness of the few as being good for all, to disparage a real decorated Vietnam Veteren over the coddled rich son of a CIA agent who, not only obtained a soft spot to hide in (over those who were already in line, some of whom may have met their end in that conflict), but didn't even fulfill the paltry duties assigned him.
Rove politicized the Justice Department to the Just Us Club, invented the Lewis Carrol Looking Glass ignoring of subpoenas and "signing statements" that cartoonishly wish away the very Constitution itself and the jailing of Governors merely because they were in his way.
I understand what the WSJ and FOX are all about, they, like CNBC, are populated by drunks and wanna-bes who've been smarmy cheerleaders for the tinkle-on economics and the Wall St. Ponzi scheme that has brought us to this point. I'll admit I enjoyed the panic on the faces and in the words of these snarky sycophants when they were begging the hoi polloi they've been ripping off to pass the huge con of giving them money that hasn't even been printed. Sadly, they pulled it off despite the fact that an overwhelming majority of middle/working class citizens were against it, and lo, here we are losing money before it's made.
Why would anyone show respect for an unelected and unelectable cynic who has, after all, brought us the most obtuse and least curious "leader" in our history? Where, pray tell, do the WSJ and FOX think this is headed? And how could you possibly see any benefit in the awakening and angering of the populace?
A guillotine in every county!
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Posted by: hadashito on Oct 16, 2008 10:40 AM
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But very few among the general public know the identities of other well trained Atwater & Rove "proteges" who have been operating at full steam for nearly as long as Rove has been in his business of destroying our political lives and his own Republican Party along with the rest.
An article ("Boys' Night Out: 'The Politico Guys'. Rove's Top Disciple and how our press corps works") in SALON.COM, OCt. 12, identifies
two of them:
Tim Griffin, now a US Attorney thanks to a Rove plot and extensive program of dirty work to replace the legitimate US Attorney with Rove's boy.
Jonathan Martin is the other. He now works for the "Politico" website as a blogger and who knows what else after a very interesting career of Rovian skulduggery. Whether he has ceased political hit jobs and dirty work is extremely doubtful. I'll betcha he's still at it under the cover of "legitimate' commentator.
The Salon article also cites a documentary by Greg Palast that exposes much more regarding the Rove/Griffin caper.
How many more are out there ? Who knows ? Our political system has been infected by a cadre of criminal goons masquerading as all sorts of "legitimate" political operatives. You can bet the lobbyist community is well represented with Rove 's boys.
The reason for their proliferation is that media commentators and reporters (and editors and publishers ?) just love these guys because they are so impressed with how "with it", cnfident, cool, and "savvy" they are about the political scene around DC. I have heard and seen and least one commentator nearly swoon and express her admiration for Karl Rove openly on TV; namely, Gloria Borger. She has toned down lately now that Rove is under the watchful eye of Congressional committees. But the amateurs and career seekers among the media, especially in the capital, haven't yet caught on to their folly. If the "Rovian" virus has spread, it is largely the fault of the DC press corps and media who have fallen in love with a con man who has so easily and thoroughly bamboozled them.
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But very few among the general public know the identities of other well trained Atwater & Rove "proteges" who have been operating at full steam for nearly as long as Rove has been in his business of destroying our political lives and his own Republican Party along with the rest.
An article ("Boys' Night Out: 'The Politico Guys'. Rove's Top Disciple and how our press corps works") in SALON.COM, OCt. 12, identifies
two of them:
Tim Griffin, now a US Attorney thanks to a Rove plot and extensive program of dirty work to replace the legitimate US Attorney with Rove's boy.
Jonathan Martin is the other. He now works for the "Politico" website as a blogger and who knows what else after a very interesting career of Rovian skulduggery. Whether he has ceased political hit jobs and dirty work is extremely doubtful. I'll betcha he's still at it under the cover of "legitimate' commentator.
The Salon article also cites a documentary by Greg Palast that exposes much more regarding the Rove/Griffin caper.
How many more are out there ? Who knows ? Our political system has been infected by a cadre of criminal goons masquerading as all sorts of "legitimate" political operatives. You can bet the lobbyist community is well represented with Rove 's boys.
The reason for their proliferation is that media commentators and reporters (and editors and publishers ?) just love these guys because they are so impressed with how "with it", cnfident, cool, and "savvy" they are about the political scene around DC. I have heard and seen and least one commentator nearly swoon and express her admiration for Karl Rove openly on TV; namely, Gloria Borger. She has toned down lately now that Rove is under the watchful eye of Congressional committees. But the amateurs and career seekers among the media, especially in the capital, haven't yet caught on to their folly. If the "Rovian" virus has spread, it is largely the fault of the DC press corps and media who have fallen in love with a con man who has so easily and thoroughly bamboozled them.
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I talk to too many young people who are disgusted with BushII and Rove. I tell them that "you need to study your history" and realize that these two guys had a "John the Baptist" in this slimey snake Atwater. And what really got me about the guy was his folksy "aw shucks" manner, hiding a vicious and predatory temprement. If a wolf could sing like a canary to attract a sheep, it would do it.
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