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Martin Amis & Chris Hitchens: Vicious Racism Concealed by a British Accent

By John Dolan, AlterNet. Posted May 24, 2008.


The American right wing, desperate for articulate hate mongers, is importing UK polemicists to stir the base up against the Muslim/Arab "enemy."
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Martin Amis' new book, The Second Plane, is worth discussing only as a symptom of the plague of British right-wing ("Tory") rhetoric popping up in American conservative discourse. The American right wing, desperate for articulate hate mongers, has taken to importing Tory polemicists to stir the base up against the Muslim/Arab "enemy."

In mealymouthed America, where most people are shocked by anything stronger than "You know what? I'm not sure I'm comfortable with that," the Tory writer's comfortable, familiar stance toward hatred can make an undistinguished hack seem like a powerful voice. That's why Christopher Hitchens is now the darling of right-wing America. Our homegrown hate mongers, like Ann Coulter, are so painfully amateurish and ham-handed that Hitchens, simply by applying the old Tory hater's kit, can seem like a master.

Apparently, even educated American editors are suckers for imported British bile. That's the only way to explain the fact that many of the essays collected in The Second Plane were originally published by the New Yorker and the New York Times Magazine. So, more as a public-health warning than a literary review, here's a look at Tory rhetoric as exemplified by Martin Amis.

Tory discourse has only two topics: hatred of the new and foreign, and grief for the old and familiar. The object of its hatred changes its name from generation to generation, from Papist to Jew to Irish to German to Russian to Arab; but the methods used to vilify the currently demonized alien are remarkably stable over the generations. Every device Amis uses to vilify Arabs and Muslims can be found, aimed at other targets, in Tory literature going back several decades.

Martin learned the poison-pen trade at home, from his father, novelist Kingsley Amis. Like Hitchens, Kingsley started out by calling himself a leftist, but a leftist who hated almost everything about the left except that fact that it shared his hatred for his social superiors. Once his novel Lucky Jim became a hit and he joined the elite, Kingsley discovered that he had no further grudges with the Tories and spent the rest of his life vilifying women, non-whites, and anyone else who failed to meet his standards of English-ness.

To American readers, the targets of Tory xenophobia can seem bizarre, even comic. For instance, in Lucky Jim, Amis Senior rails against Italian cooking, denouncing olive oil at some length as a vile "butter substitute." Keith Waterhouse, another Tory writer of that era, devotes half a page in one of his novels to a similar sermon against pizza. This obsession with Italian food, which was just coming into fashion in Britain, suggests an important difference between British and American right-wing writing: While most American conservative rhetoric pays lip service to "melting pot" rhetoric, British writers are openly xenophobic, assailing all foreign influences, whether in cookery or movies. Hitchens, for example, took a bizarre detour in one of his screeds to denounce the unfair presentation of medieval English royalty in Braveheart.

And unlike most American rightists, British Tories are always defeatists, convinced their cause is lost, paralyzed by nostalgia for an imaginary golden age or fighting a rearguard action in defense of a doomed, yet superior culture. In Lord of the Rings terms, England is Gondor, Mordor is the alien (the Arab/Muslim, at the moment), and without a Frodo-level game-saver, we're doomed. You can hear this sort of wretched whine even in pop music, as when Morrissey moans, "We are the last truly British people you will ever know." (Though in an amusing twist, Morrissey later came out of the ethnic closet and admitted he was Irish.)

It's not that psychiatrists don't pass out enough Prozac across the Atlantic. There's a very sound basis for Tory gloom: Britain lost the 20th century. Take a look at a map of the world circa 1900 and you'll see what a devastating fall England has suffered. In 1900, most of the Tropics were colored British pink. Now all that's left is Britain itself, a wet little island.

The logical conclusion for the Tory, looking back on that great fall, is that the 20th century was a horrible mistake. By contrast, America seemed to be doing very well right up to Sept. 11, 2001 (though some would place the catastrophe a bit earlier, on Nov. 5, 2000, or Jan. 20, 2001). Only after 9/11 and the Iraq catastrophe did right-wing America feel a doomed affinity for Tory gloom and hatred.

So now Red-State America is in the mood to hear that the whole modern world is a big mistake. That was exactly the argument of Paul Johnson, popular right-wing historian of the Thatcher era. But since he couldn't say outright that the natives were better off when ruled from London, he resorted to literary techniques to make anti-Imperialist heroes like Gandhi into villains in his big Thatcher-era pop history book, Modern Times. Johnson showed Tory writers how to defend the indefensible (imperialism, colonial massacres) using literary devices rather than argument. So although he can't really say outright that everything was better when London ruled India, he devotes a strange amount of space to slandering the sexual practices and toilet habits of Gandhi and the suspect lack of sexual enthusiasm of former U.N. Secretary General Dag Hammarskjold.


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John Dolan is an editor of the Moscow-based English-language alternative paper, The eXile. He is the author of, most recently, Pleasant Hell (Capricorn, 2005).

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English language discrimination
Posted by: beeden on May 24, 2008 1:13 AM   
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Language has long been used by the English to manipulate opinion, it's government policy, a read of Robert Phillipson's "Linguistic Imperialism" exemplifies the full extent of this attitude; from deliberate destruction of traditional languages, conspicuous discrimination based on patterns of english language usage, to maintaining a select english language power group in previous colonial countries. This book is an exceptional read for anyone interested in language and its capacity to manipulate.

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» Hitchens, right wing?? Posted by: CulturalMutilation
The Babel from England Doesn't Stop with Writers ...
Posted by: mmckinl on May 24, 2008 1:29 AM   
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Actually many failed conservative Brits come knocking on our door ...

From economists to historians they come taking full advantage of America's susceptibility to anything Anglophile. From Sabastian Mallaby's economic fallacies to Simon Shama's historical maladies the American landscape is now littered with retrograde British " talent".

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Who is John Dolan?
Posted by: colinmeister on May 24, 2008 3:51 AM   
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An ex-pat living in Moscow? Hardly anybody has heard of him or his newspaper or books. Unlike the famous, very funny, and very successful Kingsley Amis, Dolan has to spew hatred of successful British authors in order to grab a little publicity for himself and to publicise his latest book.

If people don't like what Amis (Sr. and Jr.) and Hitchins write, then they won't buy or read their books. I don't like what Dolan writes, so I won't read his books.

As it happens, I was listening to a book program on NPR yesterday, and Faith Middleton, an 'Out' lesbian and progressive, who hosts the show, named her 'Must read' book as "Everyday Drinking", a collection of writings on drinking alcohol by Kingsley Amis. Thank you Faith, I will buy the book!

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» Authority by popularity? Posted by: Beastly
Uninteresting article
Posted by: Lector on May 24, 2008 4:40 AM   
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It appears that Dolan put Christopher Hitchens’ name in the title just to attract more readers since there is little of interest in this article about him that isn’t already known or misinterpreted as Dolan so lazily does or implies. Hitchen “invaded” to the U.S permanently in 1980 and is now a citizen.

It is sloppy to imply that Hitchens is like Amis Kingsley and to go on with an omission that “Like Hitchens, Kingsley started out by calling himself a leftist,” Hitchens labels himself neither Right or Left today if you carefully read his writings. Also there is little justification in the article for his claims that Hitchens is a racist. A polemicist against Islam he is and his reasons have nothing to do with the neo-con crowd, which he doesn’t care for.

It is evident or maybe Dolan just ignores it, that certain Islamic movements in Europe have a problem integrating themselves into the Western tradition. He only has to read the newspapers there, especially what happened in Holland recently, to understand what Islamic extremism is all about. That equal rights between native indigenous Hollanders and Muslims are not equal and apparently an Imam in Holland can make a complaint to the police if a Dutchman, or anyone, pokes fun at his own mulitculturalist society and Islam, as was the case when a Dutch cartoonist was arrested last week for exercising his right to free speech . The eXile’s articles, has a general tone of contempt for the U.S. so anything coming from there is suspect.

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Usual British tricekry to wage world wars through american proxy.
Posted by: avatar_singh on May 24, 2008 7:38 AM   
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it is very important to realize and understand the trickery of the english nation in manipulating usa to wage wars on behalf of britain which gains most from Iraq war and any war that usa imposes on the third world and even on Europe.

Here are some of the writings done years ago to give a global picture of what is REALLY happening in the world and by WHOSE agency.
The modus operandi of Britain is to make country and regions unstable and install british stooge with explicit instruction to bring the money -looted ones -to Britain from where it is not going to go anywhere else.
Some oligarch Jews (like thee criminal U.K.-based fugitive oligarch Boris Berezovsky)
were the stooge of British in Russia and they brought so many ill gotten money to uk. So did the Kuwaitis-who brought 4 billions of pounds within a week of first Iraq war problem in august 1990 -so has continued the massive loot of the rest of the world by the English .race through this money protection racket . It is money protection racket in the sense that those eliete’s money is protected only when it is made to be lodged in British London banks. The witness, who appeared on the Rossiya channel with his face hidden and was referred to as Pyotr, accused 61-year-old Berezovsky of killing Alexander Litvinenko because the former security officer knew how the exiled tycoon had obtained political asylum in Britain in 2003. This thief boris berezosvky is a terrorist as well who calls for violet end to Putin-the president who is one of the most loved of his countrymen compared to any in the world.
As someone said “We live in a world where criminals are good guys and patriots are villains: where Berezovsky is a liberal "human rights" activist and Putin is a moral monster.” that putin who is one of the most popular leader of any in the world.
say even if russia destroys usa then if britian or rather england is allowed to exist then the english parastic dog race will ,by very parasitic nature, will try to disrupt russia or other countries' existence. therefore instead of attacking usa or poland it is best policy of russia to attrack and destroy to the whole of england which must be evaporated to a rubble.
IN '88 when Dalai lama, at the height of Tibetan disturbances, visited west, the then british prime minister refused to meet Him. Later on with the demise of Russia and usefulness of China gone and with manipulation to keep power in Hong Kong somehow intact, the same british media and government ,like dog, started barking at China. It is interesting that amnesty international selectively targets those very countries( as it did china after cold war) who are out of favour (because they would not be a british stooge) of the british media and govt. This is not surprising as amnesty international is the creation of british govt, and british media. england with the most appalling record of human rights in last 200 years of her evil rule, needed some organisation to keep the others from charging england off her past and current evil practices. In other words it went for aggressive posture in propaganda war so that others can be demoralized and stopped from pointing out the real evil which is england. That is why amnesty international is one armour of the british lies to exploit the rest of the world. Amnesty international must be ignored and an independent human watchdog (which england will simply ignore) created. One purpose of amnesty international is to create an atmosphere for hatred towards the would be victims of british exploitation so that a victim could be blamed to have deserved the consequences. That is why ,now amnesty international sometimes threatens China, sometimes India and etc.

Mrs Margaret Thatcher, Britain's so called iron Lady, refused to receive the Dalai Lama visit in'87.

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Greedy British bully bigot
Posted by: HughScott on May 24, 2008 7:41 AM   
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Hitchens has made himself wealthy by belittling one of the most important aspects of poor people's lives -- their religion.

What's next on his greedy cruel agenda: taking away their food?

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Don't quite follow what colinmeister & lector's problems with this article are.
Posted by: Squarehead on May 24, 2008 7:48 AM   
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Don't quite follow what colinmeister & lector's problems with this article are. Or at least not as they indicate. Why defend the execrable hate writing of whoever engages in it? And it is hate writing. There is a long continuum of this identification of 'enemy', of demonization of the different. It makes them so much easier to kill. The alternative, open, generous acceptance of difference is the dichotomy of left- progressive versus right- bigot.

Now I don't want to therefore engage in a counter-demonization of the Tory, or the wealthy or whatever; but I can see that hate writing in general is both depressing (at the level of what does one do with these shits?) and dangerous, because quite large numbers of humans are prone to hatred of the different.

The past 100 years gives spectacular example of where this leads, but the centuries before were different only because it was not technically possible (or easy) to kill the 'enemy' in quantity.
[So in the 20th century, The Germans, Europeans in general against other Europeans (Jews); The Turks against Armenians, the Left authoritarians against 'class enemies'; the Hutu against the Tutsi; the events in Cambodia, the activity of the USA against uppity people of all shades of skin color and opinion. Not the exhaustive list; the briefest taster.]

Therefore, the hate writers have to be opposed at all times, at every opportunity. The US based ones are, in a philosophical way, part of Rove's manipulation of US (and world) opinion and politics. They are EXTREMELY BAD for your health.

Can I add that 'some of my best friends are Tory' (No really, they are); but I feel the greatest contempt (and indeed, hatred) for those others who foment dissension and hatred. And when I read 'Islamo-fascist' I know where that person stands. They are not exactly a shining example of enlightenment thinking. Mark Steyn was mentioned; a most poisonous little shit. I still recall his oblique racist allusions in writing about Latin America. Fortunately, he is no longer published in my newspaper of choice (The Irish Times, Dublin) so I don't come across him recently; my mind feels healthier because of that.

An apposite passage from above:
"Tory discourse has only two topics: hatred of the new and foreign, and grief for the old and familiar. The object of its hatred changes its name from generation to generation, from Papist to Jew to Irish to German to Russian to Arab; but the methods used to vilify the currently demonized alien are remarkably stable over the generations. Every device Amis uses to vilify Arabs and Muslims can be found, aimed at other targets, in Tory literature going back several decades."

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thse british are not against the muslims-they are agasint anyone who refuses thier hegemony.
Posted by: avatar_singh on May 24, 2008 7:49 AM   
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Look at the support by the british to the muslims terrorist organisation s int he chechneya and other placesor even in albania.
april 2007 ---

"starroute said...

" I also noticed that reference in the French documents to Chechen rebels -- and what it immediately reminded me of was not Feith's and Perle's adventures, but Peter Dale Scott's "The Global Drug Meta-Group."

I've never felt I've fully understood Scott's article, bit as a result I get something new out of it every time I look at it. In this case, what jumped out at me was these paragraphs:

(The goal of splitting up Russia attributed here to Surikov is that which, in an earlier text co-authored by Surikov, is attributed by Russian "radicals" to the United States:

The radicals believe that the US actively utilizes Turkish and Muslim elements....From Azerbaijan, radicals foresee a strategic penetration which would irrevocably split the Federation. US influence would be distributed to the former Soviet Central Asian Republics, to Chechnya and the other North Caucasus Muslim autonomous republics of T[at]arstan and Bashkortostan. As a result Russian territorial integrity would be irreparably compromised.) . . .

In my conclusion I shall return to the possibility that U.S. government might share common goals with Hizb ut-Tahrir and the meta-group in Russia, even while combating the Islamist terrorism of al-Qaeda in the Middle East and the West.

Most major media outlets have spelled out with a profusion of details the "exact" events that led to the death of what some claim to have been hundreds of people in the eastern Uzbekistan town of Andijan on May 13. Led by British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, the world media condemned much-maligned Uzbekistan President Islam Karimov for yet another bloody and ruthless suppression of "public dissent". Yet, all the details so far provided do not explain who the real players were or their end objectives.

It is certain, however, that the puzzle cannot be solved unless the London factor is understood. The answers lie in London, Birmingham, Bradford and Liverpool. The old British colonial establishment, with former intelligence officer Bernard Lewis as its mentor, appears to have set in motion a series of events that will bring endless bloodshed to Central Asia. London's objective would appear to be to keep both China and Russia under an open-ended threat. At this point, there is no one who can better serve this "Lewis Doctrine" than Muslims nurtured in Britain - the Hizbut-Tehrir (HT). . . .

Apart from various Islamic preachers, two major Islamic groups function in the Ferghana Valley, whose common objective is to change the regimes in Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan and Kazakhstan. These are the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU) and the HT. While the IMU openly thrives on violence, the HT is strongly promoted by the United Kingdom, where it is headquartered, as peaceful. But records indicate that that the IMU and the HT work hand-in-hand. Most of the IMU recruits are from the HT, according to Rohan Gunaratna, an expert on world terrorist outfits. Gunaratna claims that Khaled Sheikh Muhammad, the alleged mastermind of the September 11, 2001, terror attacks in the US, and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian of Chechen origin who has remained active in the Iraqi insurgency against the US occupying forces, were both once members of the HT. . . .

The West's policy - in other words, the policy of the Anglo-Americans, as the European Union does not have a policy worth citing - toward the Middle East has long been formulated by Bernard Lewis. The British-born Lewis started his career as an intelligence officer and has remained in bed with British intelligence ever since. Avowedly anti-Russia and pro-Israel, Lewis reaped a rich harvest among US academia and policymake

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British assault on america revisited.
Posted by: avatar_singh on May 24, 2008 7:55 AM   
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This review appears in the February 23, 2007 issue of Executive Intelligence Review.
BOOK REVIEW
Britain's Assault on America Revisited

by Jeffrey Steinberg

The Anglo-American Establishment
by Carroll Quigley
New York City: Books in Focus, Inc., 1981
354 pages, paperback

Professor Carroll Quigley (1910-1977), the noted Georgetown University historian, completed the writing of The Anglo-American Establishment sometime during the late 1940s. Yet the book was never published until 1981, four years after the author's death. Since the publication was delayed for more than 30 years, it is not at all inappropriate to publish a review of this important work 26 years after its first publication. In fact, one would be hard-pressed to find a more useful moment to review this invaluable account of the British oligarchy's assault on the United States.

Since the inauguration of George Bush and Dick Cheney in January 2001, the United States has been under relentless attack from within. Many a sage Bush-Cheney critic has observed that the current Administration has done more damage to the United States than any foreign enemy could ever inflict. From the Iraq War, to the looming preemptive attack on Iran, to the collapse of the physical economy, to the disintegration of conditions of life for the vast majority of the lower 80% income brackets, and the assault on Constitutional rights, the Bush-Cheney Administration has successfully turned most of the world against the United States, and turned millions of Americans against their own elected government—and against the very idea of government acting on behalf of the general welfare.

Yet few critics, with the exception of Lyndon LaRouche, have raised the specter of a foreign hand behind the Bush-Cheney wrecking operations. This is largely explained by the fact that the vast majority of Americans, including within the political class, have lost a true sense of history. They perceive the consequences of the government's actions from the more limited standpoint of relatively near-term cause and effect, or from the vantage point of a specialist's limited historical lens. Moreover, they all generally accept the false notion that the British hand in world affairs has been vastly reduced, and that the impulse towards empire has been abandoned or suppressed, due to England's "diminished" condition. One need only read the inserted special report in the Feb. 3, 2007 edition of the Economist to recognize that the City of London is now celebrating "another British imperial moment," centered around the successful promulgation of yet another devastating myth: that globalization is an irreversible, driving force in world economic and political affairs.

It is in this context that the present review of the Quigley book is written. For what Professor Quigley recounts, with impeccable documentation, is a more than 100-year assault upon the American Constitutional republic by a conspiracy of leading British imperialists, who saw the survival of the British Empire in apocalyptic terms: Either the United States would be coopted back under London domination, or the Empire would crumble. Based on this assessment, a tight-knit group of leading British oligarchs launched a series of projects, aimed at recasting the British Empire as a "Commonwealth of Nations" and drawing the United States, forever, back into the fold.

The project documented by Professor Quigley, involved the philosophical assault on the American republican outlook, and the gradual establishment of an alternative ideology, based on the "Anglo-American" or "English-speaking" vision of the world. This so-called "Anglo-American" vision was, in fact, the outlook of the Venetian Party of Anglo-Dutch bankers and aristocrats, who believed in world government, under the control of a tiny elite. That this is the antithesis

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Disregard this article
Posted by: ciccio on May 24, 2008 7:56 AM   
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We're not told what the friend was doing on their turf.
When I hit that sentence, I stopped reading. That is precisely the reason that anti-Islamic feelings are rising in England. For the writer of this article to accept that a bunch of Pakistani hooligans somehow have the right to carve out their turf in the middle of an English town implies acceptance of such practices. It also suggests that it is OK not to integrate into society, that building their own little ghettos , a surefire
way to promote racism, is something we should accept and respect.
As we have seen from the tenor of this article, not accepting this automatically labels you a racist xenophobe.

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english media interefrence in american eelctions.
Posted by: avatar_singh on May 24, 2008 8:01 AM   
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america is less of anglosaxon but the english have manipulated the system to make it anglosaxon dominated so that other whites are just italian americans or irish americans eexcept when the election comes then the whites become one agasint the non whites .

It the same english media which does propaganda on behalf of biggest drug dealer in the world-B.A.T. And it is the same English sympathisers in States and English Govt. which brought about civil war in America to protect drug (tobacco) interests in U.S. It is the same B.B.C. which opposed in 1988 the sanctions against apartheid South Africa saying it will hurt British jobs. IT openly violated U.N.O. resolutions against South Africa for british interests. Such british interests must be destroyed as it is based on inhuman practices. In fact in the 1988 American election B.B.C. had invited the chief drug dealer of bat (who of course is an englishman) and there was another American there. During discussion of Ducassis' candidature the B.B.C. anchor man suggested to the American that the opponent of bush was hardly an American as he looked to dark and was Greek, the country of geek being too much near Africa. It really happened. This shows a few things. According to B.B.C. not only Blacks were not American but also all those who the english agents have labelled ethnic Americans. In fact B.B.C. openly said (in that program-usually B.B.C. does not reveal its evil intention so easily) that the American means actually anglo-saxons. Don't confuse that it includes Germans either. The same English agents (in America) who created a monstrous film like ``birth of nation`` are the same people who crated prohibition only because many German immigrants were drinking bear and they did not like it. It is the same england sympathiser crowd who went on killing blacks, Irish,
etc -
British propaganda against Europeans races-- The same crowd who pushed U.S.A. Into both World Wars because otherwise England would have lost. It is the same crowd who asked for tough immigration measures against foreigners but have given free reign to English people to come to u.s.a. and work theatre without visa requirement. Those restricted against (from other foreign countries) are not only much more highly qualified specialists in their field but also they have much better standard of living than the English people who come to States. Those foreigners are mostly from elite school and are educated up to Ph.D. level while these english people are all non- PhDs. and almost all school failed. Very few of these english people are university educated. In fact England is a nation of plumbers and fitters. It is a progression from piracy and shop keeping. It shows in their accent that almost all of english immigrants to states are from plumber and fitter class. But they pose otherwise. they have created an accent only to show to Americans that they can sometimes Talk posh but it is a put on. actually they become posh only after they have milked America and taken jobs which would otherwise have gone to Americans. Besides their so called posh themselves have graduated from Pirates-turned _so called gentleman class. The upper class of England always have been pirate cum shopkeeper class. England never had aristocracy in the same the word aristocrat means. Aristocracy is in Italy, in Spain, In Germany, in France and other European nations. But the one country -england which never had true aristocracy talks a lot about that to impress Americans. Example-in all European countries There is a word to describe a lower member( let us say a starting point) of aristocracy-A Man who is mounted on a horse. Chevalier in French and Caballero in Spanish means exactly that. A man on horse. So is it in all European languages. but not in english. The equivalent word knight is not derived from horse

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Equal Opportunity....
Posted by: CatDad on May 24, 2008 9:40 AM   
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The Right LOVES to recruit people of all races, creeds and nationalities to spew its venom.... Andrew Sullivan (a Brit and also a gay man) was given prominence in the mainstream media because of his advocacy of invading Iraq in 2003.

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Sure It's The British Wot Done It
Posted by: opmoc on May 24, 2008 10:46 AM   
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Some of the stuff written here - both in the article - and the posts is patently absurd.

Following the initial pathetic article criticising authors who as well as writing some decent stuff also write a load of garbage gleaned sat in their ivory towers somewhere probably in America - just demonstrates not only political and racial prejudice - but completely non-objective analysis.

LaRouche considering he is so ancient can still spin quite a convincing story and some of the stuff he says is very close to the truth. But I see he has now switched the focus of his attack from the label rich Zionist Jews - to its the British wot done it.

You can blame the loonies in the Whitehouse on the British if you like but I think 99.999% would say they are sod all to do with us.

Rather than spending any more time discussing this bizzarre fantasy view I'll get back to reading a much more accurate and incisive book from someone who actually left his ivory tower and trvelled the World to find out first hand his view of what exactly is going on

Globalistan by Pepe Escobar

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Chemical Dumbing Down of America - With Music From The British Pink Floyd
Posted by: opmoc on May 24, 2008 11:32 AM   
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Reminds me of the A-Albionic Society.
Posted by: nightgaunt on May 24, 2008 1:51 PM   
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Which speak about an Anglo-British-Catholic conspiracy to create such an empire and they wish to stop it. I don't say I agree with it in any way. However there are plenty of people in this country who want the white Christian man to win again.

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Really?
Posted by: daniel1982 on May 24, 2008 3:01 PM   
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Whatever you may think of Hitchens, he's no hate-monger. Come on be serious.

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POME's
Posted by: dkm on May 24, 2008 3:05 PM   
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What the author is describing is a characteristic attribute of POME's, not necessarily of the Tories. Racial hatred, either expressed openly or hidden in oblique references, defines what a POME is all about, just ask anyone who lives in any part of the former British Empire.

The ones with less erudition are blatant about their feelings toward wogs, but those who have a bit more education are able to disguise their feelings under a blanket of verbiage. They merely exhibit the British penchant for dry wit that leaves the victim castrated, unless, of course, the victim comes from the same literary background and can respond in kind. Here in America we don't have that same background so when we see it, we are impressed, which explains how the POME transplants have been able to pollute our culture with their impotent hatred of nonBrits.

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Xenophobia?
Posted by: pelican on May 24, 2008 3:37 PM   
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Doth the pot call the kettle black?

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Thankyou, John Dolan
Posted by: David/Daoud on May 24, 2008 4:11 PM   
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John, this article has been the perfect antidote for the first chapter of American Fascists by Chris Hedges entitled Faith, which I have just finished reading (barely). If only Mr. Hedges would grow some of your wonderful wit !

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Did I Miss the Discussion of Hitchens?
Posted by: Drume on May 24, 2008 4:43 PM   
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Where was it? I thought there'd be more....

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how the british have played racists card in america-including in elections.
Posted by: avatar_singh on May 24, 2008 5:54 PM   
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It the same english media which does propaganda on behalf of biggest drug dealer in the world-B.A.T. And it is the same English sympathisers in States and English Govt. which brought about civil war in America to protect drug (tobacco) interests in U.S. It is the same B.B.C. which opposed in 1988 the sanctions against apartheid South Africa saying it will hurt British jobs. IT openly violated U.N.O. resolutions against South Africa for british interests. Such british interests must be destroyed as it is based on inhuman practices. In fact in the 1988 American election B.B.C. had invited the chief drug dealer of bat (who of course is an englishman) and there was another American there. During discussion of Ducassis' candidature the B.B.C. anchor man suggested to the American that the opponent of bush was hardly an American as he looked to dark and was Greek, the country of geek being too much near Africa. It really happened. This shows a few things. According to B.B.C. not only Blacks were not American but also all those who the english agents have labelled ethnic Americans. In fact B.B.C. openly said (in that program-usually B.B.C. does not reveal its evil intention so easily) that the American means actually anglo-saxons. Don't confuse that it includes Germans either. The same English agents (in America) who created a monstrous film like ``birth of nation`` are the same people who crated prohibition only because many German immigrants were drinking bear and they did not like it. It is the same england sympathiser crowd who went on killing blacks, Irish,
etc -
British propaganda against Europeans races-- The same crowd who pushed U.S.A. Into both World Wars because otherwise England would have lost. It is the same crowd who asked for tough immigration measures against foreigners but have given free reign to English people to come to u.s.a. and work theatre without visa requirement. Those restricted against (from other foreign countries) are not only much more highly qualified specialists in their field but also they have much better standard of living than the English people who come to States. Those foreigners are mostly from elite school and are educated up to Ph.D. level while these english people are all non- PhDs. and almost all school failed. Very few of these english people are university educated. In fact England is a nation of plumbers and fitters. It is a progression from piracy and shop keeping. It shows in their accent that almost all of english immigrants to states are from plumber and fitter class. But they pose otherwise. they have created an accent only to show to Americans that they can sometimes Talk posh but it is a put on. actually they become posh only after they have milked America and taken jobs which would otherwise have gone to Americans. Besides their so called posh themselves have graduated from Pirates-turned _so called gentleman class. The upper class of England always have been pirate cum shopkeeper class. England never had aristocracy in the same the word aristocrat means. Aristocracy is in Italy, in Spain, In Germany, in France and other European nations. But the one country -england which never had true aristocracy talks a lot about that to impress Americans. Example-in all European countries There is a word to describe a lower member( let us say a starting point) of aristocracy-A Man who is mounted on a horse. Chevalier in French and Caballero in Spanish means exactly that. A man on horse. So is it in all European languages. but not in english. The equivalent word knight is not derived from horse

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British play to divide americans through so called whiteness while they mean only anglosaxons of the
Posted by: avatar_singh on May 24, 2008 5:59 PM   
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from--- Racism, Wealth and IQ
The Heart of Whiteness

By MANUEL GARCIA, Jr. in http://www.counterpunch.org/garcia04212007.html of 22nd april,2007.

"Since the days of Columbus, Pan-Whiteness has used technology (primarily explosives) and piracy (now called finance) to steal world resources, and enslave and exterminate "colored" people. "High" I.Q. is merely a developmental indicator of race-based physical plundering by their elders and ancestors in the children of the Race Warriors of the White Supremacy Crusade.

The religious core of capitalism is white supremacy, which is why the nations mentioned are bonded so tightly, and why the U.S. Government will often pursue policies vis-a-vis Israel that logically seem to be at odds with "U.S. interests" (e.g., the pursuit, with U.S. casualties, of war with Iraq and Iran, not just for oil but in Israel's interest). It may be objectively true that a particular policy (e.g., bankrolling Israel's theft of Palestine -- "settlements" -- backing Israel's stonewalling and aggression (e.g., Lebanon) and blocking U.N. and international efforts to settle the Palestinian issue) seems more to Israel's benefit than to "us." But, when viewed through the emotive religious-mythical lens of white supremacy, the apparent inconsistency dissolves.

"We" are defending our brother and sister "white" settlers in "Injun country." Israel, like our military bases and corporate installations around the world, is one of our many Fort Apaches in wild territory, filled with "colored" natives hostile to our manifest destiny to clear them off and "develop" the land. At best, they could work as sub-human machines in our agricultural and mechanized plantations, while being slowly ground down to dust and thence to disappearance behind "Separation Walls" (which actually encircle isolated populations, and so are corrals with machine gun towers -- slow motion Buchenwalds), and Border Fences and Free Trade Agreements.

The core basis of U.S. Government and capitalist policy is the protection of White Supremacy Nationalism and White Supremacy Super-Nationalism, or Empire. This is what we are fighting for. "We", the United States, are the 7th Cavalry, the Crusaders riding to the rescue of Pan-Whiteness around the world. The nature of your life and the degree of your prosperity is determined by the degree of your complicity in this cult. People like Bush and Rove and Cheney, Olmert, Sharon, the Israeli Zionist militarists, and, yes, Hitler was and are not simply motivated by elementary greed, because theft is an act of convenience, a short-cut, a matter of avoiding work. These zealots are tireless, working furiously even to the point of death, because they are motivated by a greed of religiously-inspired magnitude, and this is the compelling vision -- the cult -- of white supremacy."
and by "colored" commentators(like manmohan singhs,kamal naths, chadambaran and most of toilet peper of india ilk like premshamker jha and vir sanghvi like treacherous dogs!) singing the praises of their "white" overlords, the overlord ideology and the naturally ordained baseness of their own genetic pools. I, personally, know the costs in career and "earnings potential" that can result from a rejection of work "assignments" ("opportunities") in furtherance of the fundamental cause (the "Prime Directive," if you will). Fortunately for me, self respect is only expensive financially, in every other way it is most bountiful.

It is possible that an expanding awareness of self respect -- even a popular trans-national solidarity based on compassion (Fidel?, Chavez?, Mandela?) -- may ultimately topple the mighty military and financial powers of the White Supremacy Tribe. Until then, we will have to consider civilization an idea as yet unrealized.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173

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When an english maid got away with murder in america-thanks to BBCC propaganda
Posted by: avatar_singh on May 24, 2008 6:11 PM   
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SEPTEMEBR, 1997.




Exploitation of U.S.A. by England and her Agents.

The recent case of an English servant( au pair) by name of miss Woodward being convicted of man-slaughter of an American baby of American parents and yet allowed to walk away Scot free highlights those who did not realize earlier) the complete hold of England and her agents on the affairs of U.S.A. The same english media and her agents in America were doing free propaganda for the girl and even before and after the trial were declaring the convicted girl innocent. It is the same media (B.B.C. And others of same punk types) who have all through last 15 years been doing propaganda against Blacks, Hispanic and what not, and have fully pushed for tough measures against drug takings on the basis that with drug scare a lot of Blacks would be (and have been) put behind bar for more than 15 to 20 years on trumped up charge of possessing !5 dollars worth of Hassis. It is the same British (more specifically english) media and peoples who are pro-capital punishment (as long as victims are non-english) , pro hard line policing( only against non-english peoples), more pro tobacc0,more pro rotten british beef, more pro big british business( but anti-foreigners` business-whiplash against Japanese ownership of a few American concerns but complete silence of American firm being hostile way being taken by british and Canadian firms is one example), more pro pollution, more anti-environment, very pro-english financial institutions` hold on world economy (but against European finance getting strong--anti-European Single currency is for that reason), very anti-cultured( they call it pragmatism) and very anti-foreign countries (Usa, Canada, and Australia excepted as these are regarded by English press as their colony( they call it across the pond, or english backwater))), very anti-blacks, anti-whites of Europe, anti non anglo saxon whites of America and even anti-Scottish
British media--racist-- (BBC was giving vehement
propaganda against Scottish devolution). BBC even suggested that Wales referendum peoples who lost referendum (i.e. english sympathisers in Wales) should revolt against Wales referendum result). These all characteristics you find daily in and out in programmes of BBC, independent channels, satellite english channel, all enlish papers. there is no difference between tabloids and broadsheets in England ,they all are owned, produced, edited, written and read and edited by low life forms). In fact what they try to project to others especially Americans is exactly opposite of what they actually. They deride other cultural things (like French) but would try to impress Americans as torch bearer of culture. In fact in name of pragmatism ( really meaning slimy, low life) they deride all cultural things. They are hardly musical but would make the most of commercial success out of music. In fact when German style techno music started getting popular, because it would eat away british music industry’s carefully orchestrated profit and also because money would probably go to foreign bands, the BBC and all english media started orchestrated propaganda against that music scene falsely claiming that it was full of antisocial elements consuming drugs and doing crimes. That is how the techno music scene was killed in Britain. That propaganda was worse than Soviet propaganda against pop music. That is how one never hears of excellent pop girl group Tic-Tac while
British media-propaganda machine of english race-- BBC and all british media have done full steam propaganda to popularise the names of rubbish pop group like Oasis and spice girls. In fact the English race is only good in propaganda and the sale which results from it. But they would like Americans to believe that they are original thinkers and others steal their ideas-

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» It's open mic night at the...... Posted by: pfeifer999
Middle Ground
Posted by: AlexLawyer on May 24, 2008 6:44 PM   
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There is surely some reasonable middle ground between the extremes of racist, xenophobic religious bigotry and reality-denying assertion that we are all the same. While it is true that the Old Testament (Tanakh) contains some pretty vile stuff, it's also true that very, very few Christians or Jews advocate, much less practice, things such as capital punishment for adultery.

In the Muslim world, however, honor killings, female genital mutilation, domestic violence, forced marriage of young girls to older men, vicious repression of women, violent persecution of other faiths and many other practices at odds with our conception of human rights are widespread. These are, according to Koran and Hadith, divinely decreed for all times and places.

While more benign interpretations of Islam are possible, they are rare today. This does not mean that we should persecute or discriminate against Muslims, but we deceive ourselves at our peril if we fail to recognize and deal with vital issues.

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