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The Most Savage Shock Jock of Them All

By Rory O'Connor and Aaron Cutler, AlterNet Books. Posted May 23, 2008.


An excerpt from AlterNet's newest book, Shock Jocks: Hate Speech & Talk Radio.
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Shock Jocks: Hate Speech and Talk Radio by Rory O'Connor with Aaron Cutler (AlterNet Books, 2008).
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Who is Michael Savage? On its surface the question seems obvious: he's a 66-year-old nationally syndicated conservative talk radio host whose program, The Savage Nation, airs five days a week from its home base of KNEW in San Francisco. He's the founder of the Paul Revere Society, which, according to its mission statement, aims to "take back our borders, our language, and our traditional culture from the liberal left corroding our great nation." He's a former MSNBC cable television talk host who was fired after four months on the job after he told a phone caller, "You should only get AIDS and die, you pig." He's also the third most popular radio talk show host in America, whose weekly audience of more than eight million listeners is surpassed only by Limbaugh and Hannity.

Dig deeper, however, and the question of who Savage is, and how truly savage he is, becomes far more complicated. "Savage" isn't his real name; it seems to speak to his heightened sense of masculinity, his aggression, and his antipathy toward minorities. Born Michael Alan Weiner, "Savage" is the child of Russian-Jewish immigrants. He earned two master's degrees and a Ph.D. in nutritional ethnomedicine from that liberal bastion the University of California, Berkeley. He's written two dozen books, five as Michael Savage and an additional 19 under his given name, on medicine, the subjects of which range from maintaining a healthy diet to breaking a cocaine habit. But by any name, he professes to know what's good for you.

Before the vitriolic monologist emerged, there was another, kinder and gentler Michael. This one roamed Greenwich Village and the Bay Area in the early 1970s, kept a weathered copy of On the Road in his back pocket, and lay on the beach with the renowned beat poets Allen Ginsberg and Lawrence Ferlinghetti whenever he wasn't working on stand-up comedy routines. He guarded Timothy Leary's LSD supply, and he even once posed naked in a photograph with Ginsberg, a well-known and very public homosexual, which he distributed among friends in an attempt to prove himself part of the counterculture. At some point, however, more than 25 years ago, something took a sinister turn and, like Prince Hal rejecting Falstaff, Savage suddenly disavowed his former friends. In a 2006 interview for SF Weekly, Savage explained, "I was once a child; I am now a man." In the same interview, he said of Ginsberg, "I looked at him almost like a rabbinic figure. Little did I know that he was the fucking devil." For Savage, rejecting his old friends was simply a part of growing up.

The moralist, the healer, and the hedonist -- there's a tension between his three identities, which interact like a trio of siblings elbowing each other for seconds at the dinner table. As one listens to his conservative radio talk personality, one is moved to question whether it's his true self, not because Savage isn't consistent in his views, but because the views are so grotesque it's difficult to believe that anyone-let alone a former beatnik-could espouse them with a straight face. While it's more than passing strange for a homophobic, conservative radio host to work out of San Francisco, Savage continues to broadcast nationally from his base in the city he likes to call "San Fran Sicko."

Savage is so extreme that even many of his fellow right-wing talk radio personalities don't like him. Bill O'Reilly calls him a "smear merchant," while Neal Boortz refers to Savage as "the Antichrist." Although Talkers Magazine recently bestowed its annual Freedom of Speech award upon Savage, publisher Michael Harrison says he thinks the man is "an asshole." Liberal advocacy organizations such as GLAAD and ACLU have censured him. Liberal media watchdog groups have compiled long lists of the especially inflammatory remarks Savage has made-many of which must be heard or seen in print to be believed. Collectively they justify the cautionary statement that is read by an announcer before each edition of The Savage Nation.


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...that's actually common.
Posted by: El Hombre Malo on May 23, 2008 1:14 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
For some reason, the most vitriolic, outrageous and demented righ wing writers, hosts and pundits allwyas seem to come from a radical left background. Here in Spain, Savage's role in radio is played by Federico Jimenez Losantos, who hosts a lengthy radio show for COPE stations (owned by the catholic church no less), was in his youth a maoist activist. Pio Moa, a pundit and revisionist "historian" that frequently appears in conservative media, was a member of GRAPO, a communist terrorist group.


But then Torquemada, the most famous inquisitor, was actually a jew converted to catholicism.

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» agreed! a curious phenomenon Posted by: zooeyhall
» Arianna Huffington Posted by: pfeifer999
» Don't forget Saint Paul... Posted by: idmaster2000
I have begged my liberal friends to listen to the savage Wiener
Posted by: UnEasyOne on May 23, 2008 2:36 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It is a matter of self-preservation. This man spews so much hate it is beyond the belief of most Americans until you actually hear it a few times.

He calls liberals traitors, Nazis, scum of the earth - and anything else he thinks he can get away with. He promotes the idea that we are a danger to every decent thing in America - that we are "vermin." We are a threat to children.

What do you do with vermin, pray tell? You kill em - and that is the gist of his message (not-so-subtly between the lines); that we are worthy of death - and only death.

PLEASE listen to his program a couple of times. I defy you to come to any other conclusion. Then contemplate the fact that millions of psychotic fanatics are listening to the same ranting lunatic you are - but they are nodding their heads in agreement as they clean their firearms.

If anything this article was far too easy on Michael (Wiener) Savage - probably because the truth is so incredible it would come off as exaggeration. Wouldn't blame any of you non listeners for thinking I am exaggerating myself - and I'll be surprised if some of his listeners don't show up to defend him and attack me.

No problem - don't take my word for it - just turn on the radio a few times. It will give you nightmares.

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» Agreed Posted by: socialpsych
The homosexuality of Michael "Savage" Weiner
Posted by: Tom Degan on May 23, 2008 3:25 AM   
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America is filled with closet homosexuals like Michael Weiner. They might not be acitve gays but the desire is real and they are very concious of it. So frustrated are they by their situation, they overcompensate with bafoonish, super macho behavior and overt anti gay predjudice.

Michael Weiner is a textbook self loathing gay. It is as obvious as it is sad - and funny - at the same time.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
THEY'RE SOOOO DUMB!!!

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» RE: that letter to Ginsberg says it all Posted by: photon's feather
What is wrong with American media?
Posted by: SufiLizard on May 23, 2008 4:21 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I'm all for "freedom of speech" but I can't fathom how we let the so-called mainstream media broadcast such a steady stream of Hate Speech.

It's one thing to have differing opinions, but to dehumanize whole groups of people and promote hatred and violence crosses the line.

I think this is tap root of some of our biggest problems in America today.

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» Reagan killed the fairness doctrine Posted by: wolfgangmo75
I actually enjoy listening to him
Posted by: lil ole me on May 23, 2008 4:36 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Not that I agree with much of anything he , but the guy cracks me up. he says the most outlandish things that for sheer entertainment value beats the hell out of the crap Hannity and Limbaugh (a close second however) spew out on a daily basis.
Its kinda like watching a train wreck in slow motion. I keep waiting for him derail.

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» not so much Posted by: pfeifer999
How do people who want to control others get to calling THEM Nazis?
Posted by: Nightstallion on May 23, 2008 4:51 AM   
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I cannot watch or listen to so-called shock jocks. When I do, I write them letters, the last of which was not answered by the cowardly mother f*****. Sean Hannity where are you?

As a child, before I knew what a faggot was they were calling me that. Actually I kind of like everyone or hate ‘em equally depending on how they treat me. Sex is not out of the question, but must be weighed out by the other person as I won’t force myself on anyone; unlike these bored clit lickers who simply must make life miserable for all of us. These men hide behind their radiostations and little barristers pitching rocks and arrows at everyone with impugnity.

I cannot watch or listen to them because it makes me want to physically kick their ass bloody. My language skills poor as they are already become worse, all I can see is red and I go for my spike enhanced Louisville Slugger. Michael you will THINK savage if I catch you on the street you cowardly piece of shit! This 62-year-old pansy will kick your ass bloody you got that? There is too little time on this earth for people already without haveing to suffer the likes of you.

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» let me see if I can get..... Posted by: pfeifer999
Liberals and Hate Speech
Posted by: ot on May 23, 2008 4:55 AM   
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The whole notion of Hate speech is nothing more than an insidious control mechanism design to stifle the opinions of those who do not kowtow to the liberal agenda.

Liberals congratulate themselves on promoting Free speech. But on inspection it comes in the base form of being free to swear on the public airwaves or pandering with crude sexual content as so-called shock jock Howard Stern is so famous for.

Yes, this is liberal Free speech.

But when it comes to open expression of opinions and values contrary to liberal opinions and values, well, that is Hate.

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A Sad, Sad Case Study...
Posted by: WaldoMaui on May 23, 2008 5:07 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I haven't heard Michael Savage's radio show.

What I can say is that the description of the person portrayed in this article is interchangeable with the textbook definition of self-hatred.

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The Savage Weiner is the worst of the lot
Posted by: Phred42 on May 23, 2008 5:26 AM   
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what our friend ot (above) doesn't understand is that there is a difference between having and expressing a opinion and hate for hate sake.

The Savage Weiner is twisted up inside and uses the public airwaves to vent.

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I never listen to "talk radio"
Posted by: Last Chance on May 23, 2008 5:27 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
any more than I would access a hate website. Only PBS, classical music and cool jazz. I am responsible for what goes into my ears and my brain. It's a question of sanity and good taste.

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» RE: That's great! Posted by: boydranchitos
» RE: That's great! Posted by: Last Chance
» RE: Being aware of a threat Posted by: boydranchitos
» RE: That's great! Posted by: HoboHomo
The Weiner Nation
Posted by: Spedbo on May 23, 2008 5:28 AM   
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I propose we all call his radio show the Weiner Nation from now on. What would Michael Wiener do if he found out a popular left wing personality changed his/her name?

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» RE: The Weiner Nation Posted by: Last Chance
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» RE: The Weiner Nation Posted by: Last Chance
Obnoxiousism
Posted by: Blammo on May 23, 2008 5:28 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Living proof why they ( the whole damn world) hate you..........
Americas most abundant un_natural resource.
Arrogance.

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» RE: Obnoxiousism Posted by: pfeifer999
creating a product for the market
Posted by: grmartin on May 23, 2008 5:29 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
He's like the TV evangelists who spout stuff they clearly don't believe, but have a large and guillible audience very willing to pay to hear it.

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» Like Stewart and Colbert Posted by: countingdaisies
» Asspipe alert for wolfgangmo75 Posted by: pfeifer999
» RE: Like Stewart and Colbert Posted by: Quannah
» Quannah Posted by: pfeifer999
Limbaugh is very tame compared to others.....
Posted by: Allstar Cookie on May 23, 2008 6:00 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
.....on both the left and right.
In fact...Limbaugh is fairly upbeat and positive.

Just because you don't agree with his message....doesn't mean he's spewing hatred. I've heard much worse from Stephanie Miller....much worse. Her show is very childish.

Personally.....I think the best thing on radio...when it comes to current events and politics.....is NPR's "On Point" with Tom Ashbrook. He's outstanding.



Just my two cents.

Allstar Cookie

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Mentally Ill?
Posted by: smadaj on May 23, 2008 6:26 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I stopped listening to shock jocks when it crossed my mind one day that Howard Stern actually had a wife and daughters, and I could not imagine having a spouse or a father who supported us by devaluing women in such highly offensive, grotesque ways. So I'm not really familiar with these guys, other than what I see on my alternative media radar. But this guy sounds mentally ill. Anyone remember the movie, "The Fisher King"?

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» Megalomania Posted by: pfeifer999
Basically I see two possibilities
Posted by: EinMD on May 23, 2008 6:33 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Either his brain has the same basic chemical make up as Fred Phelps. Perhaps because of some combination of self loathing.

Or this is all an act because he knows people are buying into it.

But overall the bottom line is as long as people are listening to jackasses like this they aren't going away any time soon.

What amuses me though is how people like Savage and Coulter talk about the liberal left as being frothing maniacs and they they behave like they do. Projection, pure and simple.

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» Fits the mold Posted by: uncleeddie
Addendum
Posted by: smadaj on May 23, 2008 6:36 AM   
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I guess if you're a weiner in school, you might be a savage when you're older? My armchair psychology makes me wonder if dear old dad had been more accepting, would young Michael have been allowed to follow his possibly homosexual interests, or at least his more gentle nature - but something seems to have ripped that boy apart, and his apparently desperate need for his impossible father's approval has turned him into the hate-spewing monster he is today? It'd be interesting (albeit terribly sad) to know what it takes to create such anger. I expect understanding Michael would be as difficult an undertaking as trying to understand Jeffrey Dahmer. What's so hard to understand (and frightening to contemplate) is why so many people need to listen to this poison.

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Michael Graham/Jay Severin on Boston wingnut radio are no different
Posted by: Ydotheyhateus on May 23, 2008 7:10 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Graham talks abouts muslims based on 21st century version of 'Protocols of Elders of Zion' where Jews have been replaced by Muslims.

Severin openly calls for nuking countries around the world, calls liberals nazis/fascist/traitors.

All the wingnut radio hosts are the same.

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» WTKK i see Posted by: TheJibreelaMonsters
Savage is on my "did not serve" list of warhawks . . .
Posted by: Walks-in-Storms on May 23, 2008 7:16 AM   
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and did we all know that his real name is "Wiener?" Michael Wiener, the Savage. It says a lot about an effeminized, wannabee nation, doesn't it?

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Until IPOD's start broadcasting AM signals...
Posted by: TheJibreelaMonsters on May 23, 2008 7:29 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Wait if they did, Liberal Talk Radio will still never work. See I called it "talk radio" and not "shock jocks" a term that is so 1990. There is always government funded Liberal Talk Radio NPR however I tend to forget, Liberals can't debate issues (because they have been proven to fail) so they rather shut you up. I swear colleges need to drop the "marxist" classes.
If you don't like it, change the flipping station. You don't see no one going moonbatty over MSNBC? What about Randi Rhodes, she got taking out by the Clintons and Company. So you can bitch and moan however how many of you really listen to the radio? When I'm out, I have my IPOD in my ear and New York Post/Boston Herald in hand.
Some people wonder why I drag my peanut brain right wing self into the AlterNet... That whole free speech, debate discussion and the pure amusement of articles like this.

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Shock jocks
Posted by: reinaldok on May 23, 2008 7:48 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I am not particularly concerned about the Savage's (Weiner) of the world. Any listener not completely brain dead understands fully where these smut vendors are coming from and how much they are making off their books and programs. What does really worry me is the fact that there are millions out there that truly believe everything these guys spout. Just go to your neighborhood pub, your local barbershop, your golf course and listen to the same gook, over and over. In the last few days I have heard at least four times from supposedly intelligent community leaders, "I would never vote for a N.... The liberals are backing a moslem terrorist."

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» RE: Shock jocks Posted by: Lauren
Look Closer
Posted by: 7 Levels on May 23, 2008 8:20 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Limbaugh hates women - look at how many times he's been divorced and listen to what he has to say about women.

O'Reily is a pervert.

Dick Morris and Michael Savage are self-hating closeted homosexuals.

Hannity has mommy issues.

They have to ACT tough and be such scumbags in order to hide their own insecurities and problems. It's kind of sad.

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» But its Cool these days to be "Gay" Posted by: TheJibreelaMonsters
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Some miss the point
Posted by: helenwheels on May 23, 2008 8:57 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
But get close to it. Hate speech and using the airwaves to get it across is nothing new, and if you look behind most major instances of genocide since radio came into existence, you'll see Weiner-like people behind them. When people say "just ignore him," like they do O'Reilly et al., I say, do it at your own risk.

Who else have been referred to as "vermin"? Remember Hitler? Guess how they got the word out to the Germans that they should start hating the Jews? Radio.

Remember Rwanda? Here's only ONE interesting example, in the form of a confession, from a 'hate radio' person:

The Rwandan radio journalist charged with inciting mass killings during the 1994 genocide says she is ready to beg forgiveness from the Rwandan people.

Valerie Bemeriki, a former employee of the independent Radio Mille Collines, was arrested in north-western Rwanda late last week.

She faces prosecution for genocide and crimes against humanity, relating to radio broadcasts in which she allegedly encouraged the slaughter of Tutsis and of Hutus who were sympathetic to the Tutsi cause.

"I recognise what I have done and the sins I have committed, but what I did, I did under pressure from my bosses," Ms Bemeriki told journalists in Kigali.

"I am ready to ask for forgiveness from the Rwandan people, because I know well that I have committed grave errors."

"But there are some things which I did not do, so I will have to explain myself," Ms Bemeriki added.

Radio Mille Collines was launched in 1993, backed by family members of the Hutu President Juvenal Habyarimana - whose death in a plane crash triggered the genocide.


An estimated 800,000 people were killed in the 1994 genocide, which was directed against the Tutsi people who were Rwanda's feudal rulers until 1959.

Why don't we learn from history? Behind every recent genocide is a call to arms via radio and the voices of hate that spew anger-instilling propaganda at whatever victims they so choose.

Notice the disturbing new trend, ala Michelle Malkin and her like of even going to the extent of publishing liberals' emails, home addresses and phone numbers online in hopes that one of their more thuggish followers might just do something to them? She did this after a college protest she didn't agree with.

THese people MEAN BUSINESS. You can't "just ignore" them. They have power because they attract people who embrace violence.

Does it matter that Wiener is a self-hating gay (and I truly believe he is)? What should matter is that the man obviously wants liberals DEAD, and someday, somewhere, a liberal is going to pay for Wiener's hate speech.

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