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If Cheney & Co. Had Really Plotted the 9/11 Attacks ...

By Matt Taibbi, Spiegel & Grau. Posted May 19, 2008.


Matt Taibbi's hilarious re-enactment of the secret govt. conspiracy (that never happened) to conduct the attacks.
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"The Great Derangement" by Matt Taibbi (Spiegel and Grau, 2008).
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The following is an adapted excerpt from Matt Taibbi's new book, The Great Derangement" (Spiegel and Grau, 2008).

The 9/11 Truth movement is really distinguished by a kind of defiant unfamiliarity with the actual character of America's ruling class. In 9/11 lore the people who staff the White House, the security agencies, the Pentagon and groups like PNAC and the Council of Foreign Relations are imagined to be a monolithic, united class of dastardly, swashbuckling risk-takers with permanent hard-ons for Bourne Supremacy-style "false flag" and "black bag" operations, instead of the mundanely greedy, risk-averse, backstabbing, lawn-tending, half-clever suburban golfers they are in real life. It completely misunderstands the nature of American government -- fails to see that the old maxim about "the business of America is business" is absolutely true, that the federal government in this country is really just a lo-rent time-share property seasonally occupied by this or that clan of financial interests, each of which takes its 4-year turn at the helm tinkering with the tax laws and regulatory code and the rates at the Fed in the way it thinks will best keep the money train rolling.

The people who really run America don't send the likes of George Bush and Dick Cheney to the White House to cook up boat-rocking, maniacal world-domination plans and commit massive criminal conspiracies on live national television; they send them there to repeal PUCHA and dole out funds for the F-22 and pass energy bills with $14 billion tax breaks and slash fuel efficiency standards and do all the other shit that never makes the papers but keeps Wall Street and the country's corporate boardrooms happy. You don't elect politicians to commit crimes; you elect politicians to make your crimes legal. That is the whole purpose of the racket of government. Another other use of it would be a terrible investment, and the financial class in this country didn't get to where it is by betting on the ability of a president whose lips move when he reads to blow up two Manhattan skyscrapers in broad daylight without getting caught.

But according to 9/11 Truth lore, the financial patrons of democratic government were game for exactly that sort of gamble. According to the movement, the Powers That Be in the year 2000 spent $200 million electing George Bush and Dick Cheney because they were insufficiently impressed with the docility of the American population. What was needed, apparently, was a mass distraction, a gruesome mass murder that would whip the American population into a war frenzy. The same people who had managed in the 2000 election to sell billionaire petro-royalist George Bush as an ordinary down-to-earth ranch hand apparently so completely lacked confidence in their own propaganda skills that they resorted to ordering a mass murder on American soil as a way of cajoling America to go to war against a second-rate tyrant like Saddam Hussein. As if getting America to support going to war even against innocent countries had ever been hard before!

The truly sad thing about the 9/11 Truth movement is that it's based upon the wildly erroneous proposition that our leaders would ever be frightened enough of public opinion to feel the need to pull off this kind of stunt before acting in a place like Afghanistan or Iraq. At its heart, 9/11 Truth is a conceit, a narcissistic pipe dream for a dingbat, sheeplike population that is pleased to imagine itself dangerous and ungovernable. Rather than admit to their own powerlessness and irrelevance, or admit that they've spent the last fifty years or so electing leaders who openly handed their tax money to business cronies and golfed in Scotland while middle America's jobs were being sent overseas, the adherents to 9/11 Truth instead flatter themselves with fantasies about a ruling class obsessed with keeping the terrible truth from the watchful, exacting eye of The People.

Whereas the real conspiracy of power in America is right out in the open and always has been, only nobody cares, so long as Fear Factor and Baseball Tonight come on a the right times. A conspiracy like the one described by 9/11 Truth would only be necessary in a country where the people are a threat to actually govern themselves effectively.

But none of that even matters nearly as much as what 9/11 Truth says about the mental state of the population. The whole narrative of the movement is so completely and utterly retarded, it boggles the mind. It's like something cooked up by a bunch of teenagers raised on texting, TV and Sports Illustrated who just saw V For Vendetta for the first time and decided to write a Penguin History of the World on the strength of it. A genius on the order of a Mozart or a Shakespeare would be hard-pressed to dream up the awesome comedy that is the alleged plot from the point of view of the plotters. If there was such a conspiracy, remember, something like the following conversation would have had to have taken place:

April, 1999, World Trade Center building 7, New York, NY. A secret meeting of the Project for a New American Century. In attendance are Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, Irv Kristol, and ... others. Cheney, standing at the head of the table and glaring downward, addresses the group:


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completely and utterly retarded.
Posted by: davesilvan on May 19, 2008 1:01 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
What's completely and utterly retarded is the author of this article. Instead of discussing the actual facts and inconsistencies between the 'official' account and pictures, video (of a certain helicopter attempting to hide among the smoke of the WTCs coordinating things, like directing the 2nd plane) and testimony of people who were there at the scene you do your best to wring out new verbally-talented insults.

I've wasted enough of my time belittling you.

» You're both insane. Posted by: Scientz
» Riiiiiight. Posted by: Scientz
» And the Bush family . . . Posted by: Scientz
» RE: And the Bush family . . . Posted by: channing
» Common sense is the first casualty Posted by: carbon-based
» A waste of time? Posted by: dustdevil
» RE: A waste of time? Posted by: channing
» RE: A waste of time? Posted by: CatDad
» RE: A waste of time? Posted by: carbon-based
» RE: A waste of time? Posted by: edgar_michel
» RE: A waste of time? Posted by: edgar_michel
» RE: A waste of time? Posted by: carbon-based
» Welcome to the list . . . Posted by: dustdevil
» I'm honored . . . Posted by: Scientz
» RE: I'm honored . . . Posted by: YogiBear
» Apparently. Posted by: Scientz
» RE: I'm honored . . . Posted by: carbon-based
» Rationality is the second Posted by: bornxeyed
» RE: ationality is the second Posted by: YogiBear
» From Boeings website: Posted by: bornxeyed
» RE: f**kin' excellent Posted by: channing
» RE: From Boeings website: Posted by: carbon-based
» 767s were used because . . . Posted by: dustdevil
» RE: 767s were used because . . . Posted by: carbon-based
» Competency is the third Posted by: bornxeyed
» RE: Competency is the third Posted by: carbon-based
» Veracity is the fourth Posted by: bornxeyed
» RE: Competency is the third Posted by: bornxeyed
» Let's look at an empty 767 Posted by: bornxeyed
Retarded indeed
Posted by: Rune on May 19, 2008 1:32 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
That is, the whole premise of this article is retarded. It starts off with its own idiotic misconceptions and never recovers:

"The people who really run America don't send the likes of George Bush and Dick Cheney to the White House to cook up boat-rocking, maniacal world-domination plans and commit massive criminal conspiracies on live national television; they send them there to repeal PUCHA and dole out funds for the F-22 and pass energy bills with $14 billion tax breaks and slash fuel efficiency standards and do all the other shit that never makes the papers but keeps Wall Street and the country's corporate boardrooms happy. You don't elect politicians to commit crimes; you elect politicians to make your crimes legal."

First of all, the people who were running America at the time did not pick Dick Cheney, Cheney picked himself when Bush's dad suggested he hire him search for a V.P. As we will all recall, Bush was a bumbling idiot on the swift decline in September 10, which just happens to be the day Rumsfeld revealed that his department, the DoD, could not account for over $1.2 trillion dollars in spending (and the real number turned out to be about triple that amount). Then, on September 11, Rummy's news, which was about the lead to a serious impasse regarding the biggest corporate welfare program of them all, was pushed aside and never revisited while Cheney took charge and got the most profitable hit in economic history rolling.

What, the big players behind the politicians were focusing on $14 billion projects and a little more protection from class actions lawsuits? Get a clue! Hell, lucky Larry Silverstein, new owner of some choice New York real estate, pocketed about half that amount in cash as a result of insurance payments specifically covering acts of terrorism against his WTC properties. That was chump change. The real money at stake was in the trillions of dollars and revolved around wiping out several ongoing investigations of and political resistance against major financial crimes that were already under way, as well as facilitating their expansion and, yes, a few hundred billion dollars in government seed money and expense accounts. But if you follow the link I provided, and follow the money, you will see that we are talking about many trillions of dollars that swung to the benefit of the good corporations and their owners that have done their best to keep team Bush in power and above the law since September 11.

That this article spends its time kicking butt on the strawman argument that the invasion of Iraq was primarily an effort to get its oil, when we have seen that the oil industry has been able to triple its prices and send its profits through the roof by merely having the means of controlling and/or destabilizing the long term prospects of oil supplies without ever taking possession of Iraq's oil fields is, what was that word again?, oh, yeah, "retarded." About five years retarded, to be precise, for it was about that long ago that Greg Palast explained that what the oil industry execs had in mind when they met with Cheney was having a way to exert control over oil supplies, not actually grabbing the oil and selling it off in a hurry at low, low prices. That would be "retarded."

[Continued . . .]

Still retarded . . . and then some
Posted by: Rune on May 19, 2008 1:36 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Yes, it is always fun to mock the many, many theories of how this all came to be. No doubt, the government that has clearly been blocking investigations that could actually answer that question while busily pursuing "psyops on steroids" against its own people has likely planted or promoted enough nutball ideas along with the valid ones that just about everyone believes something that, upon some investigation, can be shown to be very dubious. But if the basic notion that following the money will lead you to gnomes behind the scenes who pull a few strings to make sure things work to their maximum benefit is valid, then I think it does make sense to look back into those same players involved government, financial, and public interest crimes worth trillions that went down without a hitch once two planes knocked down three buildings in New York, the third one that was not directly hit being the most important to the plot. You know, that building with all the investigators and records in it that NIST still cannot come up with even a flimsy explanation for why it fell down the way it mostly talked around the evidence and the details in implying a remotely possible means by which the twin towers could have been caused to fall down due to massive destruction from the impacts of airliners and nearly impossible heat build up due to fires that NIST's own lab analyses of steel removed from the buildings shows did not take place. (You did know about that, didn't you?)

On the other hand, maybe it was just an amazing conspiracy of a former CIA asset (bin Laden) hiding in a cave and some flunky Middle Eastern flight school students and their pals -- some of whom had been tracked for years in the U.S., even after they trained in California with assistance from he first guy who tried to bomb the WTC, who in turn was having his living expenses covered by the guy in the cave after the CIA issued him no fewer than 6 tourist visas so he could keep coming back to the U.S. despite being an escaped prisoner and well known international terrorist wanted in Egypt. Yeah, that's probably it. All that CIA involvement and the FBI being called off every related case for over a decade is probably just the result of bureaucratic inefficiency. Unless you follow the money. . . .

This whole article smacks of the same sort of preying on the ignorant and willing by pointing the finger at presumed "wackos" that is the stock and trade of Fox News and their ilk. There is always a grain of truth to such ploys, else they would not be so effective, but that does not save them from being based on idiotic oversights and misstatements of facts and leading theories, as was true of this article from its first few paragraphs.

False debate, false frame, false everything.
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on May 19, 2008 1:42 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Welcome to the puppet show, folks, regularly hosted on the left-wing press and a few of the corporate networks now and again, Our cast of characters include:

1) The 911 Truthiness Movement, represented by Alex Jones, David Ray Griffith, Dylan Avery of Loose Change fame, and a few other interesting people who refuse to be identified and flee persistent questioning... 4th Army Psychological Operations veterans working for private public relations/CIA contractors, would be my guess.

2) The "debunkers" - represented by oh, just about everyone else, who point out time and again that there were no bombs in the WTC, no missiles fired at the Pentagon, and so on.

Before going any further, allow me to refer you to the Joint Pub 3-53 - 1996 Army-Navy-Air Force-Marine-Coast Guard joint doctrine for coordinating psychological operations. Anyone (large corporations, private foundations, etc) can apply those strategies.

"The planned use of psychological actions and propaganda influences the attitudes, opinions, and behaviors of opposing or neutral groups in a manner favorable to US objectives. PSYOP techniques are used to plan and execute truth projection activities intended to inform foreign groups and populations persuasively. The purpose of PSYOP techniques is to ensure that targets receive and consider the information being disseminated.

So, there are real questions about 9/11, but those all center around two issues: whether the failure to apprehend the hijackers before 9/11 was due to gross or deliberate incompetence. Deliberate as in "we let hijackings take place because we wanted a media event for some reason", not as in "we knew they were going to fly them into buildings". Or it was gross idiotic incompetence, for which impeachment is also appropriate.

What's the other issue, you ask? Oh, I don't know - what major event happened a few weeks after 9/11, actually postmarked on 9/18 and 10/9, I believe - sourced out of a U.S. private contractor lab known as Battelle Memorial Institute, by all indications (at least that's who the wife of the Florida anthrax victim is suing, or was). U.S. biowarfare programs run by private contractors in close cahoots with the DIA and the CIA, all documented? Project Jefferson, Project Clear Vision, Project Bacchus? Say it isn't so - but it is. Wait... I can hear a pin drop...

Instead, we get big bogus debates like this one. Puppet shows that distract the public from more delicate and dangerous issues that might bring down entire governments if brought to light. Bush is definitely worse than Nixon, but he's still in power... and the left wing press has played a major role in keeping him there.

» Let me get this straight . . . Posted by: dustdevil
More straw from Taibbi and AlterNet
Posted by: LeftWright on May 19, 2008 1:47 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Once again, instead of analyzing the critical questions using physics, facts and logic; Mr. Taibbi and AlterNet just build straw mountains and employ rhetorical dodges to avoid the hard questions and uncomfortable answers regarding the events of 9/11/01.

Mr. Taibbi, try resolving just one of the 25 contradictions in Dr. David Ray Griffin's new book 9/11 Contradictions: An Open Letter to Congress and the Press for a change.

In posting garbage like this piece AlterNet once again underscores its irrelevance as a source of credible and/or useful information.

Stick to what you do best, AlterNet, shilling for Sen. Obama and selling sex in the guise of "feminism".

I could not be more disgusted with the intellectual bankruptcy of this "news" site.

The truth shall set us free. Love is the only way forward.

» RE: More straw from Taibbi and AlterNet Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: More straw from Taibbi and AlterNet Posted by: Joshua Holland
The un-funny thing is.......
Posted by: mizipi on May 19, 2008 2:09 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
had 9-11 happened during the Clinton administration, and Rush Limpdick reported something similar to this, then every neo-nut in the world would have believed it to be true.

Kind of lopsided?
Posted by: CosmoViking on May 19, 2008 2:39 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
While trying to describe the mentality and dynamics of the so-called 9/11 Truth Movement (it's really not a movement in Europe - just a lot of people who simpy cannot swallow the many holes in the Kean-Hamilton Report) is interesting, this author appears to not have actually done the reseach into the events of September 11th, 2001.

Now I admit that after reading 4 books and many articles on the matter (especially the WTC events), I am still not sure who was ultimately behind it. What seems very sure is that the collapses of WTC 1 & 2 defied the laws of physics in the report and the NIST anaysis.
But surely it is clear who benefitted from the events - and, hint, it's not the "cave-based, world-wide terrorist organization of an exentric Saudi millionaire". Seriously, think about that model for a moment - it really makes no sense. The same kind of misleading information was released during the cold war, where the CIA used ghost writers happily identified a non-existent world-wide Communist terrorist network. It was all propaganda.

What DOES make sense is that Bin Ladens group (with its' limited reach and capability) was and still is the so-called "CIA Arab Legion" and that is why Al Qaeda (a name used in the west) has a typical intelligence agency cell structure.

Hence, the ARE muslim fanatics, but I can assure you most of them have no idea who the man behind the curtain. They believe Bin Laden is a Sheikh. He is not. He is an asset of illegal covert operations. The same appears to be true of Al-Zawahiri, who has has MI-6 connections.

Now, as for Cheney....I dont know how involved he might have been, but he, KBR/Halliburton (who are, by the way, both mentioned in depths of teh Warren Commission Report on the assassination of JFK), the neocons and others have benefitted immensly. Plus he was coordinating some of the many, highly suspicious wargame exercises of 9/11.

Having said that, I am regularly confronted with people from both sides of the debate, who simply cannopt carry an intelligent conversation of the matter because they are so entrenched. There's really no need for that - both camps seem to agree that the Administration is guilty of many things, so why not wotk together on thise issues.

What remains obvious to me is that there should be a re-investigation under the next President.

» RE: Kind of lopsided? Posted by: dcm
» RE: Kind of lopsided? Posted by: CosmoViking
» to CosmoViking Posted by: kellysgarden
» RE: to CosmoViking Posted by: CosmoViking
» RE: Kind of lopsided? Posted by: meranting
» RE: Kind of lopsided? Posted by: omniadeo
» RE: Kind of lopsided? Posted by: CosmoViking
» RE: Kind of lopsided? Posted by: CosmoViking
AIDS AND 9/11
Posted by: Purple Girl on May 19, 2008 3:34 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Rev Wright was a Sacrifical lamb.Too much was focused on the minor points of this sermons and not the historical FACTS.This was done intentionally to distract against what truely constitutes crinimla Behavior.
Where AIDS came from is IRRELEVANT. What is, IS what happened after it surfaced! HOW & WHY it moved from a spoaratic disease to a World Wide Epidemic. What isWorse inventing a Destructive force in a 'Lab' Or the releasing & proliferating of It.Historical Fact - GRID became a serious diease among the Gay and Black Communities AND REAGAN IGNORED IT! His lack of AmericaN Preidential leadership allowed thousands to suffer and die in those communities- No Research funding, No Assistance, No attempt to eradicate or even control it's spread. 'ACT UP started long before Alan White or Paul Michael Glassers contracted the disease. Not unitl the disease was found in the Blood Supply and threatend 'regular white Folks' did Anyone Do anything!Dereliciotn of Duty, Recke=less Endangerment,Genocide.
9/11 was 'chickens coming Home to Roost'. No one needs to be a 'conspiracy Theorist or paranoid' to realize WHAT was Targeted on 9/11-The MIC.Again a horrid event- but what followed was far more devastating to our Country & the World- WAR, Economic fall out, usurping of Rights & freedoms, Loss of Reputation in the World community(distrust)....Numerous acts of Treason, War Crimes & Crimes Against Humanity.But the acts which brought on this 'Balck eye' started no less then 30 yrs ago. The Hostage Crisis, The First Oil'Crisis' , Highjackings and Terrorist attacks. WE TOLD OUR GOV'T & the INCS to GET OUT OF THE M.E. THEN!!!!Their Greed,Arrogance, sociopathic meglomania and UNAMERICAN Business Practices & Policies Caused 9/11- It Was THEIR chickens!They have used our Resources to fund their enterprises, Or Flag as Camoflague and our people as Human shields
So whether or not they actually placed explosives in the Towers, at the Pentagon or on Flight 93 is a Mute point- Everything BEFORE & SINCE IS their fault.Blood is on their hands- not just victims of 9/11 but all those who have died as a Result of their lack of Moral and Ethics as related to this NATURAL RESOURCE (and all others - 'GIFTS' should never be bought & Sold for Profit,it's a slap in the Face of the 'Giver'- 'God' Or Nature, It's a Sin for Stewards to behave with such dishonor, and disrepect)
So it is not that Dr Frankenstein Created a monster in the Lab- it was the releasing of him and the aftermath which was his Mortal Crime against Humanity.
Highest of Crimes deserve the Highest of Punishments!

» RE: AIDS AND 9/11 Posted by: sirios
would work better if it was funny.
Posted by: harrydocket on May 19, 2008 3:48 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Well apart from the fact that the enormous body of 9/11 research and genuine concern over the inconsistencies of the day have been ignored-This also suffers from the major cardinal sin of comedy not being funny.
Smacks like a bit of disinformation also.

Truly pathetic
Posted by: xi_people on May 19, 2008 3:51 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
So, once again AlterNet and its editors do their best to trivialize the country's most important issue. Could their agenda be any more transparent? How desperate are they that the truth behind 9/11 remain obfuscated?

The ironic thing is that asinine articles like this have the effect of reinforcing people's sense of outrage at the coverup. The readership of this site is, by and large, an educated and informed one, and insulting our collective intelligence on a regular basis is just idiotic, and doesn't bode well for the future of the site.

Look for this article to be pulled by mid-day as the negative comments continue to mount.

» RE: Truly pathetic Posted by: kellysgarden
long history of false flag ops
Posted by: Zuma on May 19, 2008 4:03 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
from the sinking of the maine to the gulf of tonkin incident, such 'false flag' incidents are a tool that has not rusted for all it's use. we already know this and know it well.

this article suffers greatly, not just from the ills previous comments have pointed out, but from the aggregate effect of thus actually serving that which it seeks to demean or otherwise undermine.

the conundrum of 9/11 turns upon established and accepted facts or the lack thereof. sites that call themselves fact-based or reality-based hardly need to defend such policy, but there are many established facts concerning 9/11 that are simply *not* accepted, such as the winglessly round 20 foot hole in the pentagon for just one.

and so on.

we have a national argument now over common sense itself.

remember giuliani's disbelief at ron paul's assertion of 'blowback'? paul dared speak without disingenuity, but plainly, frankly. this is no longer acceptable to the status quo.

9/11 'truthers' seek truth -they are truth Seekers. -and so retain their own self-respect.

to disallow discussion of such questions is as contemptible as disgenuously ignoring our false flag incident history -or the evidence of 9/11 that in my view reasonably gives ground to raise large questions.

» Agreed, a hoax Posted by: nap
» RE: Agreed, a hoax Posted by: channing
» RE: no, not kidding Posted by: channing
» RE: no, not kidding Posted by: nap
» RE: Thank you nap Posted by: channing
» RE: Thank you nap Posted by: nap
annoying article but..
Posted by: nap on May 19, 2008 4:20 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I suppose, if Cheney would have been involved in planning 9/11 he would have proposed a different shortlist of nationalities for the hijackers.

Of course, I could always come up with an explanation for that. Or for anything for that matter.

The possibility of deliberately letting one's guard down is as far as I'm willing to consider.

» Co-signed . . . Posted by: Scientz
» then again . . . Posted by: nap
» RE: Exactly right nap, Posted by: channing
» RE: xactly right nap, Posted by: nap
Rolling Stone a bastion of integrity?
Posted by: zeofredo on May 19, 2008 4:35 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Looks like this guy doesn't have enough to write about seeing that contemporary pop music is completely wallowing in its own crapulence... so VOILÁ! A riposte towards an easy target: 9/11 debunkers!

The greatest disappointment in the last 40 years of youth culture is that it has been co-opted (no conspiracy--just business) by the same social engineering that brings us useless medication and FOX hype... selling a myth of individualism and 'youthful rebellion' while at the same time narrowing the horizons of young people's world views. It has worked a charm, apparently.

Nobody seriously reads Rolling Stone anymore, anyway... not since the eighties!

» RE: Correction! Posted by: zeofredo
the truth
Posted by: tfh_962 on May 19, 2008 4:56 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
So let me get this straight? because a bunch of people don't believe the "official story" they are crackpots? We are lucky that we have people that are WILLING to SPEND their time and money doing their own research and finding out the FACTS regarding 911, and not just a puppet of the government payroll like Matt Taibbi, Spiegel & Grau! Everyone should boycott Aternet for publishing this rubbish propaganda. I will not be reading rolling stone anymore --- and for the REST OF MY LIFE ON THIS PLANET I will tell everyone to boycott rolling stone as well, because they employ such a government puppet like Matt Taibbi. Frankly any magazine should be a shamed of employing such a person -- pushing this government dis-info --- everyone knows 911 was an inside job, it is the biggest issue on the table, and anyone who denys this point, needs to be rounded up and [you fill in the blank!]. 911 Truth is growing, and people like Matt Taibbi are ulgy right-wing neo-con dinosaurs that just pretend to be left-wing. People like Matt Taibbi need to arrested and tried for treason of the world! How much money are they paying you Matt? how much money did you and you take for this??? how much silver did you sell out and hung the world for? is it worth it, you should be ashamed of yourself! I hope they fire you at rolling stone --

» RE: the truth Posted by: carrie jean
» the truth != 9/11 Truth Posted by: Krotos
Sometimes I think
Posted by: Urstrly on May 19, 2008 5:03 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Cheney & Co. invented the 9/11 truth squad to distract the rest of us from the heist they've pulled off of our Constitution and economy. I'll hand it to the conspiracy clique, they sure hang together. Even on Alternet.

» RE: Sometimes I think Posted by: CosmoViking
» Ummm, it's all connected, Urstrly Posted by: LeftWright
Taibbi is simply picking a fight
Posted by: witchjug on May 19, 2008 5:11 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Wheather he truely beleives this fact free fluff of a story or not is irrelevant. He is simply trying to pick a fight. He has written several articals on this very subject with the same condecending stance. Matt, you want to give your arguement some gravity? Instead of fluff, interview the 911 truth movements most accredited and knowledgable participant. Who you ask? Well if you did anything approaching journalism you would already know.

A do-nothing conspiracy
Posted by: Last Chance on May 19, 2008 5:11 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
They simply stepped aside and let it happen, knowing it would give them carte blanche to pass emergency legislation, attack Iraq and drive the nation toward corporate fascism. So far, so bad. Now what will happen before November to prevent a Democrat from taking over the White House? Cheney knows.

» RE: A do-nothing conspiracy Posted by: Lauren
» RE: A do-nothing conspiracy Posted by: Last Chance
We have the best spy agencies money can buy....
Posted by: xvictor on May 19, 2008 5:13 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The United States government budgets literally BILLIONS of dollars annually into the various spy agencies: FBI, CIA, NSA and godknowswhatelse. They work domestically and internationally. They work closely with the spy agencies of other governments in Europe in Asia. This is true for decades. We have spy sattellites that can detect the brand names of cigarettes lying in a gutter. We have ultra sonic listening devices, etc.

For those who insist we were taken by surprise by a bunch of "ragheads" who just strolls into a couple of jets and then ram them into buildings are popping some totally strong stuff -- considering the elaborate and EXPENSIVE spy outfits we support.

And I have not one but THREE bridges I like to sell you CHEAP!!! Send me money first and we can deal!!!

Heheheh
Posted by: hotar on May 19, 2008 5:16 AM   
Current rating: 2    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Unlike the above commenters, I thought the story was funny and hit the 9/11 "truth" movement right where it hurts, smack in the middle of its glaring inconsistencies and gaping factual errors. Rock on, Mr. Taibbi!

» I disagree . . . Posted by: Scientz
» RE: I disagree . . . Posted by: Crazy H
» No . . . Posted by: Scientz
» RE: Heheheh Posted by: metryjen
» You and me both . . . Posted by: Scientz
» RE: You and me both . . . Posted by: bornxeyed
» I'll defer . . . Posted by: Scientz
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