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Sibel Edmonds: 'Buckle Up, There's Much More Coming'

By Luke Ryland, GetUnderground. Posted January 30, 2008.


The heroic whistleblower on nuclear secrets corruption at the highest levels attacks the cowardly U.S. press and warns she has much more to reveal.
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In the last few weeks, UK's Times has run a series of articles about the so-called 'Sibel Edmonds case.' (' For sale: West's deadly nuclear secrets, ' FBI denies file exposing nuclear secrets theft' and ' Tip-off thwarted nuclear spy ring probe')

Former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds stumbled into a world of espionage, nuclear black market, narcotics trafficking, money laundering, and corruption at the highest levels of the US government.

I interviewed Sibel yesterday regarding the current investigation and reporting by the Times, the failures of the US media, and last week's decision by the Bush administration to legalize the sale of nuclear technology to Turkey, in an apparent to exonerate prior criminal activity by officials in his administration.

Sibel also has some urgent 'action items' so that we can stop these dangerous nuclear proliferation activities. I urge you to act on her suggestions.

Luke Ryland: What do you have to say about the recent work by the Insight journalists - Chris Gourlay, Jonathan Calvert, Joe Lauria - at the UK's Times?

Sibel Edmonds: They've done good, solid reporting so far by doing what reporters are supposed to. They have been chasing sources and getting their hands on documents. It's pretty simple. As you know, this story has been available to any journalist for six years now.

There's been a lot of speculation in the last few weeks that American reporters haven't touched this story because they are 'corporate owned' but it is wrong to exonerate these reporters so quickly. Many of them are too close to their official sources, and some are simply lazy. This Times team chases sources, and if they can't reach them one way, they'll try and try again, or they'll seek out alternate sources, or find other ways to ensure that they get the story.

When I hear from US reporters, they say 'Sibel, give us all the documents we'll need, and you line up all the sources for us, and then maybe we'll do a story' and if one source doesn't return their phone call, they simply give up. That's not journalism!

Ryland: Why has the US failed on this story so dramatically for 6 years?

Edmonds: It's a combination of things, obviously. You need to consider that the entire US press corps has failed on this story; not only the regular print and TV media, but the alternative media has failed on this too.

Part of the reason is that journalists are simply too close to their official sources. Those sources might tell the journalist that there's nothing to the story, and so the journalist gives up on it, or the official sources might 'request' that the journalist to stay away from the story, and the journalist is then concerned about losing access to the source in the future.

Another reason is the partisanship. With the foreign press, there is no partisanship, and that's one reason why they have been more effective at covering this case, and I'm not just talking about the recent Times articles here. With the US media, it appears as though if there is no clear partisan angle, then there's no story. As you know, this case is spread over two administrations, and that appears to make it difficult for the reporters to cover the story. Even within one news organization you might have one journalist who wants to use the story to indict Clinton, and another who wants to use the story to bash Bush, and in the end neither of them write about the story because it doesn't fit their partisanship, their 'narrative', so they just drop it altogether.

I had such high hopes for the alternative press, and they do a lot of good work, but partisanship repeatedly gets in the way there too, on both sides.

The US media also suffers from a pack mentality. I was told by one executive that they weren't doing the story because it was 'old news' because 60 Minutes/i> did a single segment in October 2002, even though they only covered a tiny part of the case. This executive literally told me that he'd only cover the story if it was 'hot and sexy.' I often think that I'd need to be able to hire Britney Spears to be a spokesperson -- and this is not just for my case, but for any of the many other solid, important cases at the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition Apparently this is what it would take to get any coverage.


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MSM far Worse than "Cowardly" & "Lazy"
Posted by: LookOut on Jan 30, 2008 2:13 AM   
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It is treacherous.

Sibel Edmonds appears as one of a handful of authentic champions to do battle with an entire DC / BushCorp / Clinton puppet front and the Fascist corporate Mafia behind it all.

Her performance in opposition to 9/11 cover-up for one is exemplary.

In an era of MSM snake oil “candidates” such as Hillary that flaunt lethal smarm over no integrity and no substance, Edmonds is a revelation.

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MSM went down the pan when it loaded up on...
Posted by: Bobsays on Jan 30, 2008 3:49 AM   
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Journalism school rich girls who thought the media industry owed them a living to pay off their ivy league debts. It became a good-girl middle class job, and at that point it was no surprise good girls are not going to risk their careers on stories that may get them in trouble.

Prior to the good-girls, journalism used to attract a more eclectic group of people: rogues, scoundrals, activists, liberal arts grads, hacks. But what most of them shared was a renegades attitude: a willingness to take risk and take the heat when they upset the powers-that-be. That generation of people were purged out of journalism to be replaced by fragrant ladies who act more like stenographers than muck-raking journalists.

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» A thoroughly sexist comment Posted by: brunowe
» Yep, it's mostly women.. Posted by: messedup
» "I say so" is not a source Posted by: EKSwitaj
» Yep, it's mostly women.. Posted by: messedup
Do either of the Commitees mentioned..
Posted by: zipper696 on Jan 30, 2008 5:42 AM   
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...have somebody willing to ask awkward questions? Or, are they the same time servers and Bushy apologists?

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In 2004, I arranged for Sibel Edmonds to speak at the GOP Protests in NYC
Posted by: BillDouglas on Jan 30, 2008 6:30 AM   
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What was disturbing, was that the largest peace rallies in NYC would not consider giving Sibel Edmonds the podium at their rallies. I begged them to reconsider.

The leadership of the peace & justice movement, at least ones that exercised their veto power over others . . . refused Sibel Edmonds a chance to speak on the issues around 9/11.

This was part of a pattern. In 2003, before the war, I tried to coordinate some 9/11 widows fighting for answers around the events of 9/11 to speak at the major anti-war rallies in NYC and San Francisco. The leadership would not allow it at the anti-war rallies.

So, we went around the "leaders" and raised funds from a wealthy technology millionaire in Silicon Valley who was saavy to the 9/11 lies, and designed and printed the iconoclastic "Stop the 9/11 Cover Up" signs.

We sent thousands of them to New York City, and San Francisco to be passed out by 9/11 activists at the anti-war marches, since the leadership wouldn't touch 9/11. THE RANK AND FILE PEACE ACTIVISTS WERE HUNGRY FOR 9/11 TRUTH, many putting down the anti-war signs they'd made to bring, and grabbing the "Stop the 9/11 Cover Up" signs we provided.

The media was hungry to question 9/11 early on. The LA Time and NY Newsday wrote on their front page photo captions, "Thousands march to stop the war and stop the 9/11 cover up."

Now back to Sibel Edmonds. In NYC in 2004 we could only arrange for Sibel to speak at the National Organization for Women's mass event in Central Park, because the then head of NYC NOW knew we'd been lied to about 9/11, and as a New Yorker, she was FURIOUS.

Had it not been for that NOW organizer, I'd only have been able to get Sibel booked to speak at a small 9/11 truth event in Manhattan, even though she had VERY IMPORTANT THINGS TO SAY, AT A CRITICAL TIME FOR OUR COUNTRY . . . right before Bush's 2nd election.

So for 6 long years now, 9/11 truth activists, and whistleblowers have been ignored, maligned and dismissed.

Even Alternet has gone out of its way to make fun of those questioning the events of 9/11. I hope this coverage of Sibel Edmonds signals a new day, a new time for progressives and progressive media . . . to stop turning away from the ugly reality that when the truth is known about 9/11 . . . our world will NEVER look the same.

For more information visit, www.TheShellGame.net and select "911 Links". Among other important information around 9/11, you'll find a link to Sibel Edmonds website.

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» No, you missed the point Posted by: brunowe
Truth Be Know
Posted by: douglashoyt on Jan 30, 2008 6:41 AM   
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Most people have not had experience with the government. Therefore, the US government has credibility.

Most people find it hard to imagine that the US government will lie, cheat, steal and kill to get their private (public) policies instituted.

Most people have awaken to find our government compromised. Our economy in the drink. And the military industrial complex in firm facsist control.

Have a nice day.

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This looks like a good place to start.
Posted by: Farragher on Jan 30, 2008 6:56 AM   
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Perhaps we should send this easy to find list to Amy Goodman, or the New York Times. They are all either bought and paid for, or they simply don't care. The relentless hypocracy is difficult to deal with on a daily basis after all.


Members of the U.S. Senates Foriegn Relations committee.

Christopher J. Dodd, Connecticut
John F. Kerry, Massachusetts
Russell D. Feingold, Wisconsin
Barbara Boxer, California
Bill Nelson, Florida
Barack Obama, Illinois
Robert Menendez, New Jersey
Benjamin L. Cardin, Maryland
Robert P. Casey Jr., Pennsylvania
Jim Webb, Virginia
Chuck Hagel, Nebraska
Norm Coleman, Minnesota
Bob Corker, Tennessee
John E. Sununu, New Hampshire
George V. Voinovich, Ohio
Lisa Murkowski, Alaska
Jim DeMint, South Carolina
Johnny Isakson, Georgia
David Vitter, Louisiana


Members of the House Foriegn Affairs Committee
**********
Tom Lantos
Chairman
Howard L. Berman
California, 28th District
Gary L. Ackerman
New York, 5th District
Eni F. H. Faleomavaega
American Samoa
Donald M. Payne
New Jersey, 10th District
Brad Sherman
California, 27th District
Robert Wexler
Florida, 19th District
Eliot L. Engel
New York, 17th District
Bill Delahunt
Massachusetts, 10th District
Gregory W. Meeks
New York, 6th District
Diane E. Watson
California, 33rd District
Adam Smith
Washington, 9th District
Russ Carnahan
Missouri, 3rd District
John S. Tanner
Tennessee, 8th District
Gene Green
Texas, 29th District
Lynn C. Woolsey
California, 6th District
Sheila Jackson Lee
Texas, 18th District
Rubén Hinojosa
Texas, 15th District
Joseph Crowley
New York, 7th District
David Wu
Oregon, 1st District
Brad Miller
North Carolina, 13th District
Linda T. Sánchez
California, 39th District
David Scott
Georgia, 13th District
Jim Costa
California, 20th District
Albio Sires
New Jersey, 13th District
Gabrielle Giffords
Arizona, 8th District
Ron Klein
Florida, 22nd District
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen
Florida, 18th District
Christopher H. Smith
New Jersey, 4th District
Dan Burton
Indiana, 5th District
Elton Gallegly
California, 24th District
Dana Rohrabacher
California, 46th District
Donald A. Manzullo
Illinois, 16th District
Edward R. Royce
California, 40th District
Steve Chabot
Ohio, 1st District
Thomas G. Tancredo
Colorado, 6th District
Ron Paul
Texas, 14th District
Jeff Flake
Arizona, 6th District
Mike Pence
Indiana, 6th District
Joe Wilson
South Carolina, 2nd District
John Boozman
Arkansas, 3rd District
J. Gresham Barrett
South Carolina, 3rd District
Connie Mack
Florida, 14th District
Jeff Fortenberry
Nebraska, 1st District
Michael T. McCaul
Texas, 10th District
Ted Poe
Texas, 2nd District
Bob Inglis
South Carolina, 4th District
Luis G. Fortuño
Puerto Rico
Gus Bilirakis
Florida, 9th District
Robert J. Wittman
Virginia, 1st District

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"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." - William Co
Posted by: BillDouglas on Jan 30, 2008 7:19 AM   
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"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone
of any significance in the major media."

- - William Colby, former CIA director


Did anyone notice that TheDailyKos did a hit piece on anyone questioning the integrity of the elections?

For years now I've been trying to post relevant information about the lies around the events of 9/11 with The Kos.

Now, I've had issues with Alternet regarding 9/11, because they've run features giving back handed slaps at those questioning the glaring problems with the official 9/11 story, while not publishing anything from David Ray Griffin, Steven Jones, or Richard Gage of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, etc. HOWEVER, ALTERNET HAS PUBLISHED ALL MY POSTS IN COMMENTS TO ARTICLES.

But, when I've tried to post on DailyKos, I've been told flat out by editors there, "We do not allow 9/11 related posts."

Now, given what we all know thanks to the work of BlackBoxVoting and others . . . the irregularities in Deibold vote counters, and other issues already in this primary . . . SOMETHING IS GOING AWRY.

What is up with DailyKos? When they don't let people talk about the 9/11 lies, and now they go after anyone questioning the voting scams?

Why is it that when corporate media needs the "liberal voice" they go to DailyKos, who narrows thinking for people, while letting them "think" they are liberal renegades?

Perhaps former CIA Director, William Colby has an answer it would behoove us to explore:

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone
of any significance in the major media."

- - William Colby, former CIA director

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» These comments are not helpful. Posted by: BillDouglas
» kos is a shill Posted by: gary_7vn
» Suspicious of that quote Posted by: Joshua Holland
» RE: Suspicious of that quote Posted by: gary_7vn
Mister
Posted by: Spock on Jan 30, 2008 7:38 AM   
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As I remarked elswhere here this morning, people who know about C.I.A. Operation MOCKINGBIRD won't be at all surprised at the way the U.S. media treats this story.

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As an aside,
Posted by: rockpicker on Jan 30, 2008 7:57 AM   
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A videoed speech by David Ray Griffin, entitled "Let's Get Empirical," has been posted here:

http://www.freedomvideo.org/

on the Jan. 29 blog page. Excellent examination of both leading conspiracy theories, and exposure of how two of Alternet's darlings, Rothschild and A. Cockburn, have abused themselves by castigating the 9/11 Truthers. Would love to see Cockburn and Griffin debate "the facts."

Sibel is my hero, with a warrior's courage and clarity of conviction. It is up to the rest of us to put pressure on congress and the press to demand an open and independent investigation into her claims, as well as the 9/11 cobweb.

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Sibel is Honest and Courageous
Posted by: topview on Jan 30, 2008 8:03 AM   
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We need more Patriots like Sibel, but unfortunately we have people in government positions who make their lives miserable and persecute them for what they believe is the right thing to do.
I truly fear for her life, as those people will not stop at murder to shut them up.
John and Bobby Kennedy were two who were out to change the corruption in this government and they couldn't be protected from the corrupt elite that run ramped in this world.
Sibel has a lot of guts to take a stand against these crooks and tell her story.
I'm afraid her release of the information she knows about these traitors will just be ignored by the Mass media and the people that can bring charges against them.
So far the cover up of JFK,RFK,MLK and 9/11 has been pretty successful.
Our chance for the change we needed to investigate these crooks is being diminished by each Presidential candidate that has quit the race. Now Edwards is leaving the race as when you can't get your word out to the people because the MSM just ignore you.It is a sorry time for this country.
The people have to wake up and demand these crooks be removed and the MSM be forced to report the true corruption of our government.

I just hope Congress will listen to Sibel and take action to clean up the huge corruption of
of our country. Before that will happen, we will have to make some changes by voting in people who have respect for our Constitution and Bill of Rights.
We can thank Sibel for her Courage and respect for the law, by telling her story and bringing down these Traitors. Lets just hope it will do some good for the change we need to save us from the corruption of these crooks and put our country back on the right track.
The Powers that Be, will do anything to stop her and her organization of whistle blowers from making their voices heard by the people.
Its a very sad time when people like Sibel have to worry about the safety of their lives for doing the right thing.

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terrible article
Posted by: kenhymes on Jan 30, 2008 11:54 AM   
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What a horrible article. Anyone who knew nothing about Ms. Edmonds' previous revelations would remain in the dark. Given that one of the premises of the interview is that the media won't cover this, why is there so little actual information? It's all reaction and speculation. I certainly don't doubt the corruption and treachery of the White House and others high in US government. But we know so much in the public record about Halliburton and Blackwater and the Hanford nuclear power plant and torture and other crimes... what kind of silly game is it to say "buckle up, more is coming"? There are real sources with experience on the ground aplenty to talk to.

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Geez; where to start?
Posted by: willymack on Jan 30, 2008 12:28 PM   
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The situation here is so bad that just listing all that's wrong would take all day. Here's a partial list:
1. Crooks, liars, and closet queens everywhere you look,and this is just in our rethug "administration".
2. A tragic, phony war with no end in sight.
3. Our economy on the edge of a very high cliff.
4. Our "leaders" guilty of war crimes, crimes against humanity, war profiteering, and treason.
5. The theft of who knows how much from our national treasury.
6. The contuining assualt on Social Security, our enviornment, and our Constitutional guarantees.
7. The phony "war on drugs" and "war on terror".
8. Election fraud in 2000 and 2004.
9. The conmingling of church and state.
10. The continuing, illegal spying on our citizens.
As I said, this is just a partial list. the rest would require much more time and space than I care to devote. You get the picture by now, anyway. As for this latest revelation, well, that's icing on the cake, don't you think? The question is: when will something be DONE about this, and who'll DO it? The prospect of the bushie thugs getting away with all this makes me ill.

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ET
Posted by: evaneis on Jan 30, 2008 2:27 PM   
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The downfall of the MSM has nothing to do with gender and everything to do with a handful of corporations owning almost all of the MSM, corporate funding of journalism schools, and the high pay of TV news reporters. Reporters know if they tell the truth or pursue stories their corporate owners don't like they could lose their jobs. Or they are told outright not to cover certain stories. After a while the ones not censored by their bosses start to censor themselves.
The CEO's who own the media are mostly conservative republicans, so the republicans have a leg up on the democrats from the start. In 2000 it was shown that Bush got 25% more coverage than Gore and a reporter for NBC was fired, (by Jack Welsh the head of GE, which owns NBC), because he felt she was being too pro-Gore in her reporting. Plus, news anchors on the major networks make 10 million dollars a year now, and even in Denver they make $500,000 or more. Somebody that rich is not going to risk their jobs to tell the truth or challenge the corporate slant of the news, nor will most of them care.

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Re: terrible article
Posted by: PaulK on Jan 30, 2008 5:58 PM   
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OK, if Alternet won't cover the background, I will. This is from
http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp01292008.html

"I am not one to easily embrace conspiracy theories, and in particular have found the idea that 9-11 was somehow an inside job too incredible for serious consideration. On the other hand, there are some very fishy aspects to some officials' behavior pertaining to the attacks. Justin Raimondo has made a very good case for the fact that Mossad agents posing as "Israeli art students" were tracking al-Qaeda operatives in the U.S. before 9/11. Over 120 Israelis were detained after 9/11, some failing polygraph tests when asked about their involvement in intelligence gathering. But they were not held or charged with any illegal activity but rather deported. As former FBI translator and whistle-blower Sibel Edmonds has revealed, there was a curious failure of the government before 9/11 to act upon intelligence pertaining to an al-Qaeda attack. Most importantly Edmonds, defying the gag order that former Attorney General Ashcroft imposed on her in 2002, is implicating Marc Grossman, formerly the number three man in the State Department, in efforts to provide U.S. nuclear secrets to Pakistan and Israel. She suggests this was done through Turkish contacts and Pakistani contacts, including the former head of Pakistan's ISI who funneled funds to Mohamed Atta! Now there's a conspiracy for you.

Edmonds claims that during her time at the FBI (September 20, 2001 to March 22, 2002) she discovered that intelligence material had been deliberately allowed to accumulate without translation; that inept translators were retained and promoted; and that evidence for traffic in nuclear materials was ignored. More shockingly, she charges that Grossman arranged for Turkish and Israeli Ph.D. students to acquire security clearances to Los Alamos and other nuclear facilities; and that nuclear secrets they acquired were transmitted to Pakistan and to Abdul Qadeer Khan, the "father of the Islamic bomb," who in turn was selling nuclear technology to Libya and other nations. She links Grossman to the former Pakistani military intelligence chief Mahmoud Ahmad, a patron of the Taliban who reportedly arranged for a payment of $ 100,000 to 9/11 ringleader Atta via Pakistani terrorist Saeed Sheikh before the attacks. She suggests that he warned Pakistani and Turkish contacts against dealings with the Brewster Jennings Corp., the CIA front company that Valerie Plame was involved in as part of an effort to infiltrate a nuclear smuggling ring. All very heady stuff, published this month in the Times of London (and largely ignored by the U.S. media)."

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On Buying & Re-selling status quo Kool-Aid
Posted by: LookOut on Jan 30, 2008 7:29 PM   
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Clue: the official story at 9/11 that Sibel Edmonds has been at odds with is at very best a bad conspiracy theory. And it’s one riddled with conflicted problems.

Edmonds presents documented evidence corroborated by FBI and Senate officials that government bureaucrats had centralized [FBI Headquarters and FBI Field Office at Washington) and specific foreknowledge of 9/11attacks at least four months before. In Edmonds words the intel foreknowledge provided:

1) Osama Bin Laden was planning a major terrorist attack in the United
States targeting 4-5 major cities,
2) the attack was going to involve airplanes,
3) some of the individuals in charge of carrying out this attack were already in place in the United States,
4) the attack was going to be carried out soon, in a few months. The agents who
received this information reported it to their superior, Special Agent in Charge of
Counterterrorism, Thomas Frields, at the FBI Washington Field Office, by filing “302”
forms, and the translator translated and documented this information. No action was
taken…


Edmonds also has proof of 9/11 withheld intelligence and forged intelligence on behalf of “certain 9/11 detainees” as well as more 9/11 intelligence shared with “unknown recipients” .

Aside from the dozens of innocent or set up Arab patsies rounded up – the only “9/11 detainees” were 200 plus Israeli spies busted on 9/11 and within the hours afterward. These hundreds of spies that tracked “hijackers” were quietly deported back to Israel as part of the larger 9/11 cover-up.

“After almost three years since September 11, many officials still refuse to admit to
having specific information regarding the terrorists’ plans to attack the United States.”


In other words, Edmonds presented documented, factual proof of a 9/11 conspiracy cover-up directly to the “9/11 Commission”. She was silenced thereafter with the “State Secrets Privilege” order for being a 9/11 whistleblower.

“The intentional continuation of ineptitude and incompetence by mid-level bureaucratic management” at the FBI as Edmonds wrote in her letter to the chair of the 9/11 Commission may have been a factor. But even “intentional” incompetence does not cover intel forgery and sharing intelligence with “unknown recipients” or the concealment and deception of a battalion of Israeli spies at the corrupt center of 9/11.

In short, the cover-up at 9/11 is proven fact and a matter of public record unreported by corporate rigged mainstream media and the monopolist corporate owned government it protects.

The buying and re-selling of status quo government wrongdoing and cover-up at 9/11 is the only “Kool-Aid” on this thread.

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Bad Reporters?
Posted by: ProgressiveManiac on Jan 31, 2008 7:04 AM   
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When I hear from US reporters, they say 'Sibel, give us all the documents we'll need, and you line up all the sources for us, and then maybe we'll do a story' and if one source doesn't return their phone call, they simply give up. That's not journalism!

While I am often quick to heap scorn on the MSM, I am less anxious to place the blame on reporters, who after all occupy the lowest positions in the MSM. Like other businesses, the media has been squeezing its workers to produce and the emphasis is on producing greater and greater profit levels. It all comes down to generating bigger bonuses for the CEO.

I am just guessing, but I suspect that most reporters are working overtime now, just trying to grind out some copy and their editors are not so interested in that copy being ground-breaking news stories. If a reporter has to spin his wheels doing real reporting work like tracking down sources, his editor will be on his back about falling productivity. If a reporter out a story that her editor decides to reject because it is politically incorrect (e.g., makes the administration look bad) then that is a black mark.

We like to think of these reporters as pillars of the fourth estate. They are supposed to be standing up for democracy and keeping a wary eye for corruption and misconduct. However, they are also men and women trying to make a living and not get laid off. They are trying to advance in their careers and eventually make enough money to live on.

The problem is not the reporters. The problem is the concentration in the MSM and the fact that news is being treated not as a pillar of democracy but as a profit center in large media corporations.

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The "Profit Center" Argument Won't Wash
Posted by: LookOut on Jan 31, 2008 10:31 PM   
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It never did.

Look at who literally creates private fiat money out of thin air (i.e. "Federal Reserve" Corp rigging) and where it goes. Then look up CIA "Operation Mockingbird" among others.

This is a very old story.

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Luke Ryland has made some very strange assumptions
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Feb 2, 2008 7:33 PM   
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Luke Ryland has made some very strange assumptions, such as that there are
secrets, that the supposed secrets cannot be re-discovered or re-invented, that only
Americans have the IQ required to do nuclear physics and nuclear engineering,
probably that reactor technology is related to bomb technology, and that all things
nuclear are bad. All of those assumptions are wrong. There are no nuclear
secrets. Physics is the same everywhere in the Universe. A physicist in another
galaxy gets the same answer as a physicist in the USA. There are people in every
country smart enough to be physicists and nuclear engineers. The problems
involved in inventing nuclear power plants have been solved many times in many
countries. 32 countries already have nuclear power plants. Only 9 have the
bomb. Students in universities all over the world solve the problems involved in
building reactors every day as homework and on exams. Textbooks in libraries all
over the world freely tell anybody who can read them how to build reactors.
Reactor technology is NOT bomb technology. Bombs are very different from
reactors.

There is American technology that we NEED to give every country on earth. That
technology is how to make reactors that are as safe as the latest American reactors,
how to make efficient reactors, and so on. The latest American reactors are so
safe that meltdown is impossible. American reactors do not release radioactivity.
Of course NO reactor has EVER had a NUCLEAR explosion, and that includes
Chernobyl. There has never been an American nuclear power plant accident that
resulted in a fatality. We need to give or sell this technology to every country
[except Iran and North Korea] to keep Americans from being paranoid about
nuclear power. Accidents generate paranoia. We need to sell electricity from
nuclear power plants to Iran and North Korea. American technology would have
prevented the Chernobyl accident. The Soviets built a bad reactor because the
Soviets did not invest in 6 decades of research in reactor safety, as the US did.
We need American technology to spread worldwide to prevent the building of any
more reactors as primitive and as poorly constructed as the Chernobyl reactor.

Nuclear power is the first and biggest step in rescuing our planet from global
warming and rescuing people from poverty. Burning COAL to make electricity is
the source of 34% of our CO2 output. That is 38% of the 90% reduction we need
to make in CO2 output to stop global warming. Replacing coal with nuclear is the
biggest and easiest wedge in the global warming solution. Prosperity requires
energy. There is no way around it with a human population of more than 6
billion. Nuclear power is a mature technology, ready to build now. Wind, solar
and geothermal require research that we don't have time for. We need to sell
nuclear technology and build nuclear power plants here for safety, health, peace,
prosperity and global cooling.

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Allah's Bomb
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Feb 2, 2008 7:48 PM   
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Reference: "Allah's Bomb" by Al J. Venter. The US built the first bomb with no
prior knowledge that it would even work and no outside help in only 3 years.
South Africa built bombs with no more than a dozen people working on the project
at any one time. Israel built both bombs and reactors fueled by so-called nuclear
"waste." Israel stole spent fuel to do this. The amazing thing about Islamic
nuclear efforts is their seeming lack of aptitude for nuclear engineering. Perhaps
it is because they are interrupted 5 times a day to pray, I don't know. Iran has a
uranium mine. Egypt has 10 places that could be uranium mines. Chad has a
uranium mine. Australia exports uranium. There are many places all over the
earth where uranium can be mined. Canada and Great Britain have reactors that
run on UN enriched uranium. A. Q. Kahn, Pakistan's nuclear engineer seems to
have been better at smuggling and spying than at nuclear engineering. For all of
their efforts, Iran still doesn't have a reactor.

Before the Soviet Union got the bomb, there was a big scare in the US that, if the
Soviets did get it, they would use it. They didn't. Before China got the bomb,
people in the US said: "There are so many Chinese that they would welcome
loosing half of their population, so they will use the bomb as soon as they get it."
China has never used the bomb. The story repeats for every country that the US
didn't want to have the bomb. Will Iran be different because the Islamic holy
books say that infidels must be killed or enslaved? What about the idea that
Islamists think it is better to kill all infidels even if that means killing everybody?
So far, Pakistan is Islamic and has the bomb but hasn't used it. What does this
mean for Turkey having nuclear power plants? I think it means that Turkish
nuclear power plants should be built to American standards, the highest and best in
the world.

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Woops!
Posted by: AsteroidMiner on Feb 2, 2008 8:25 PM   
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I meant Iran doesn't have a reactor of Iranian design. They have
reactors or partial reactors built by other people.

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Vanity Fair - Sept 2005
Posted by: mayita1usa on Feb 6, 2008 11:31 PM   
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While they didn't exactly get a scoop, David Rose of Vanity Fair did an extensive history about Sibel's story a couple of years ago. I wonder why she didn't think that was worth mentioning?
Here's a link to the article, which I have remembered ever since reading it:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article9774.htm

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