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Does the Drop in Housing Prices Mean It's Time to Buy?

By Jami Farkas, Nguoi-viet.com. Posted October 22, 2007.


With all the bad news about housing sales these days, it's tough to know when is the right time to buy.
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The headlines have been enough to make potential homeowners think twice.

''Home builder outlook falls to record low''

''Treasury chief: Housing turmoil a 'risk' to economy''

''Forecasts for home sales get gloomier''

''Housing slide yet to hit bottom''

Get the picture?

In 2007, what we read regarding the housing market certainly hasn’t been good news, keeping some buyers away. Still, real-estate experts said that this might just be a great time to make that big purchase.

''I advise my people that buying a house is not buying stock or something. ... It’s a long-term investment, and you’re looking for a need,'' said Allen Chiang, the chief executive officer of Presidential Real Estate, which has five offices in Southern California, and a member of the board of directors of the Asian Real Estate Association of America. He tells his clients not ''to consider tomorrow it’s going to be lower or next month. You’re not going to sell right away.''

The market is correcting itself after years of perhaps unrealistic and unsustainable appreciation, experts say. That has put sellers who bought at record-high prices or with subprime mortgages in a bind, but Chiang said sellers who have lived in and tended to their homes for several years will enjoy a profit — even if it they don’t sell at the sky-high prices that were seen a few years ago.

Sellers need to ''go back to reality,'' he said. ''It’s real money in their pocket.''

Still, while the headlines have screamed bad times, that isn’t necessarily going to last.

As far as the mortgage industry goes, conditions are getting better, which could lead to more sales in 2008, according to information released last week by the National Association of Realtors.

Lawrence Yun, NAR senior economist, said in a prepared statement that widening credit availability will help turn around home sales. ''Conforming loans are abundantly available at historically favorable mortgage rates. Pricing has steadily improved on jumbo mortgages since the August credit crunch, and FHA loans are replacing subprime mortgages,'' he said.

Yun said despite the bad news, 2007 will be the fifth-highest year on record for sales of existing homes.

''Although sales are off from an unsustainable peak in 2005, there is a historically high level of home sales taking place this year -- a lot of people are, in fact, buying homes,'' he said. ''One out of 16 American households is buying a home this year. The speculative excesses have been removed from the market and home sales are returning to fundamentally healthy levels, while prices remain near record highs, reflecting favorable mortgage rates and positive job gains.''

Existing-home sales are expected to total 5.78 million in 2007 and then rise to 6.12 million next year, in contrast with 6.48 million in 2006. New-home sales are forecast at 804,000 this year and 752,000 in 2008, down from 1.05 million in 2006. ''A cutback in housing construction is a positive sign for the market because it will help lower inventory and firm up home prices,'' Yun said.

Duc Nguyen, who sells real estate in the Sarasota and Bradenton, Fla., areas, says he has seen the nervousness among his buyers. But, he says, buyers have opportunities now that they might not have had before to purchase their dream home.

''It’s obvious that the prices are dropping,'' he said. ''Those people who want to buy now are better off to look for location. Before the real-estate boom, they were looking for any house in any location.''

But now, both Nguyen and Chiang said, buyers might be able to find a home that is more affordable in a location they have coveted.

''Take advantage,'' Nguyen said. ''Jump into what you really want. Buy for the long run. It’s a good time for buyers. I don’t think there’s been a better time in the last few years.''

Nguyen has sold real estate just four years; Chiang has been in the business since 1987 and has weathered the ups and downs of the market.

He’s seen people jump in their cars to get to the new listings before others did, watched people settle for houses that weren’t the right one just so they could buy something.

Times, yes, are different. But that doesn’t mean the buyers still aren’t looking.

''I’ve been showing houses almost seven days a week,'' he said.

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In A Word- No
Posted by: NoPCZone on Oct 22, 2007 12:27 AM   
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It's time to get and stay as liquid as possible. Taxes on property will be rising even as prices continue to fall. There is still plenty of downside in most markets.
BTW- If you can shelter some of your cash in non US $ denominated instruments, do so. The dollar that traded $.85-.90 to a Euro when Dubya came in is now roughly $1.40 US to a Euro. That is a massive decline in real value.

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» Mutual Funds? Posted by: brunowe
Gosh. Real estate agents who say it is a good time to buy.
Posted by: Sojourner on Oct 22, 2007 12:42 AM   
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I intend no sarcasm when I say this is the emptiest piece of drivel I have ever seen on AlterNet.

I have never met a real estate agent who doesn't think it's a good time to buy, so long as it is something he's selling. An interview with two salesmen is nothing more than an RE office bull session. Can you imagine anyone there saying it's a bad time to buy?

How about a bit of human interest? Like, how many of those bargains are the salesmen buying up? We know that whenever RE salesmen find a real bargain, they buy it because they believe they can sell it and turn a quick profit.

Or how many low income families have they found homes for? Or how many of the properties they sold are now in foreclosure? Anything other than simply parroting their sales pitch.

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» thank you! Posted by: historystudent
Cloud cuckoo-land
Posted by: John Annis on Oct 22, 2007 3:31 AM   
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It must be wonderful to be able to believe this tosh. Along with Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy. The US is headed into the biggest recession in almost 80 years, and the banks are scared stiff of lending mioney, even to A+ investors, yet this is a good time to make the biggest purchase of your life?

Stupidity must be catching.

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What is the point?
Posted by: Trazom on Oct 22, 2007 6:24 AM   
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What is the point of this article? Is it supposed to make us feel better about the currently gloomy real estate market, particularly those of us waiting in the wings to grab a piece of the action?

There are so many flaws in these statistics I really don't know where to begin, least of which is that the US population continues to grow, so naturally that has an effect on overall sales volume.

As another poster has already said, real estate agents will always tell you that NOW is a good time to buy. Doesn't matter if the sky is falling and Satan shows up with his legion of death soldiers, now is still a good time to buy. It's absolute nonsense.

The truth is that now is a good time to buy if you need a home. Period. If you are in it for the long haul (not withstanding layoffs or change of life circumstances), then go for it. In 30 years time this current real estate downturn will be a thing of the past. We could even be in a new one, as quite often these things are cyclical in nature.

If you have time to play with, then by all means wait. I don't foresee prices stabilizing for at least 2 years. We have to hit rock bottom in order for this to happen, and I think we still have a long way to go.

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Now is the time not to buy
Posted by: mrsanfran on Oct 22, 2007 7:51 AM   
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If you are in it for the long haul, and prices fall, how are you
going to refi if the rates become more favorable? As the
previous posters said, Realtors never tell you not to buy.
I am in Arizona now, after being a lifelong Socal resident.
This market here has suffered the most devastating collapse
I have ever seen in 30 years. Very little is selling in my development and
most nearby. Sellers keep reducing, and there are 57,000 +
listings on the Mls. 28,000 is normal. Only a fool would buy
most of these listings. Why not wait and see how low they can go? Until that 57,000 figure starts reducing, there is no stabilization and it is not a good time to buy most properties. I am a licensed agent by the way who does mortgages for a living. The appraisals are coming in lower every month. Objectively I have to say, don't buy yet. I think it will be at least another year before we hit rock bottom here, maybe longer.

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Fraud
Posted by: Constitutionalist75 on Oct 22, 2007 8:06 AM   
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Why would any rational person want to invest thousands of dollars and go into a lifetime of debt to hire contractors to build a plywood & 2 by 4 fire trap, thousands of which are now burning in California and elsewhere?! But they did so, and they are now going broke because they fell for sweet-talking real estate salesmen who got rich on the "American Dream" of everyone owning their own home.

If instead they had bought a small parcel of fertile land and taught themselves the skills of building eco-tech housing and growing organic gardens according to the principles of permaculture, they would be there yet and not homeless refugees.

I like to tell the story of the Vietnamese immigrant who, after succeeding in business, built a home in California according to his own specifications, which included a TILE outer finishing instead of particle board, plaster board, aluminum siding, etc. So, when a wildfire hit the neighborhood, his was the only house left standing.

I also like to remind people of "The Wizard of OZ" in which Dorothy's Aunt and Uncle and hired hands went down into the storm cellar just before the tornado struck.

Yet, how many Americans build fire proof homes or have a storm cellar? Pitifully few. And how many Americans press their local and state representatives to use taxes to help people take such precautions? None that I know of. -- all of which leads one to suspect the vast majority of Americans are fools and idiots ready to be gulled by hucksters and con men at any time of day or night. How else could they have allowed Cheney and Bush to steal two elections, hook them into their imperialist war on Iraq, welcome millions of illegal aliens to drive down wages and nullify the Constitution in favor of a virtual dictatorship that now threatens World War Three?! Fools and idiots!

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» RE: Fraud Posted by: donl51
3 Questions
Posted by: Gaubladt on Oct 22, 2007 8:16 AM   
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The only questions here are:
Do you want to buy a house?
Can you afford it comfortably?
If you decide on a floating rate mortgage, can you handle bankruptcy?

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» RE: 3 Questions Posted by: Constitutionalist75
Bear Market
Posted by: Iconoclast421 on Oct 22, 2007 8:44 AM   
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Currency devaluation is going to destroy any gains made by a real estate investment. Oil prices are going to be creating a long term demand destruction. Economic growth will be slowing. If it weren't for the huge wealth transfer occuring now, as well as the ongoing offshoring of asset ownership, I think we'd be in negative growth. Even the Vice President of the United States has dumped the dollar and switched to euros. So not only has he scammed Americans out of millions, he stabs us in the back again by dumping on the dollar. My hero...

And yet I just saw a "focus group" (a whole room full of IDIOTS) on Fox News talking about the republican candidates, and NOT ONE of them raised their hand for Ron Paul. They're all just a bunch of fools who love Cheney selling out our country but call Ron Paul "certifiably insane". (Frank Luntz ) Even though if they had been listening to Ron Paul this crap could have been avoided years ago. Doesnt matter to them. They're still 30% of America! You bet your bottom dollar that people this rediculously stupid will make sure the real estate balloon keeps deflating. It is a good time to buy land along the canadian border, or north of there if ya know what I mean. The value of land in major metropolitan areas ... I would not expect the value of that land to rise... Unless there is a good renewable energy source nearby. Atlanta? You can forget about buying land near there. Around the great lakes? Perhaps you could do well. Arizona? Solar breakthroughs might make that a good investment. Washington State is a good deal. The most important factor is definately potential nearby alternative energy sources. What you want to look at is renewable energy density. (Lots of available renewables in an area with a relatively low population density.) That is the way to go.

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» RE: Bear Market Posted by: jbur816
» RE: Bear Market Posted by: donl51
As Bart Simpson would say
Posted by: chaoslegs on Oct 22, 2007 8:59 AM   
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this is a 'craptacular' article.

Yes, you should consider your home a long term investment, but who wants to owe more on a mortgage than they can sell their house for. That is a problem in a market of falling housing prices.

Dean Baker wrote in his blog:

This numbers are so striking since the vast majority of these mortgages have not reset yet. Even most 2005 mortgages have not reset, since the most common period is 36 months. In other words, the reset is not the problem with these defaults, people simply cannot afford their homes or realize that they owe more than the current value of their house, so they opt to walk away from it.

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a nation of renters
Posted by: gerdhansel on Oct 22, 2007 10:21 AM   
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In twenty years the USA will become a nation of renters. The real estate bust of 2007 will be last nail in the coffin of America's once-strong middle class.

Our children and our grandchildren will curse us for the world they will soon inherit from our sorry asses.

A home is supposed to be a place to live, not a stock portfolio with a picket fence and a jacuzzi. When will we ever learn.

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» RE: a nation of renters Posted by: jbur816
Hey, the finance industry is trying to sell some new loans!
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Oct 22, 2007 11:47 AM   
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Nice to see that Alternet is helping with the public relations campaign. Buy some money, people, and keep Goldman Sachs and Bank of America afloat! Use your home as equity to take advantage of these sweet, once-in-a-lifetime deals!

Or maybe - just maybe - that's not actually in your best interests. Yikes.

neurlingo

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Hey, the finance industry is trying to sell some new loans!
Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Oct 22, 2007 11:47 AM   
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Nice to see that Alternet is helping with the public relations campaign. Buy some money, people, and keep Goldman Sachs and Bank of America afloat! Use your home as equity to take advantage of these sweet, once-in-a-lifetime deals!

Or maybe - just maybe - that's not actually in your best interests. Yikes.

neurlingo

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it's a great time to buy rental units - if you've got the money
Posted by: heliana on Oct 22, 2007 12:05 PM   
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the last numbers I've heard is seven million foreclosures forecasted for 2008. I've a feeling most of those souls won't be buying in a while - and they'll need a place to live.

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not time yet
Posted by: dogguyz on Oct 22, 2007 12:48 PM   
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the pirces of homes will continue to drop and foreclosures will be worse in '09 than they are in '08. With some geopgraphic variability, they will go down by 40-50% of what they were at the high market of 2005. I was a realtor for 12 yrs in Calif and these realtors in the article are doing the typical sales meeting cheerleading. He talks about'widening credit availability' being what will stimulate sales- well this is precisely what got us into this fine mess Olie. All of the sudden everyone and their brother qualified for a home because the industry was left deregulated/unchecked and the fox minding the hen house, underwriting was no more, and a FALSE demand for housing was created raising the prices unrealistically. People were convinced that they should always drain equity regularly, with the rationalization (sales tool) that they need the interest deduction (most dont make enough for it to matter that much anyway), with the real reason being to drain the publics net worth=powerless. The economy has all been false because the spending has all been with borrowed money which does not make a strong nation. In fact, credit will not be widely available, it will be the opposite because they are re introducing real underwriting to the industry. We will end up like UE ,most people will be renting. THe USA as we knew it is gone and not coming back ever.

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» RE: not time yet Posted by: jbur816
the reason why it's happening.....
Posted by: eosrk on Oct 22, 2007 3:12 PM   
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....the American Worker is earning way less money, their jobs are outsorced, Free Trade, NAFTA, them fuckers in the White House, Fire sales on new homes.......I say we're heading for another depression. What can save it:
(drum roll)
(then cymbals)
WWIII! and at the rate their going on Capitol Hill, it might not be far from now!

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» THE REAL REASON IS... Posted by: HistArch
» RE: THE REAL REASON IS... Posted by: Constitutionalist75