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We Had Abortions

By The Editors, Ms. Magazine. Posted October 6, 2006.


These women invite you to join them in a campaign for honesty and freedom.
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In its 1972 debut issue, Ms. magazine ran a bold petition in which 53 well-known U.S. women declared that they had undergone abortions —despite state laws rendering the procedure illegal. These women were following the example of a 1971 manifesto signed by 343 prominent French women, who also had declared they had abortions.

Even then, to many it seemed absurd that the government could deny a woman sovereignty over her own body. It is even more absurd in 2006 to learn that an abortion ban has passed into law in South Dakota, although it has been stayed until an initiative to remove the ban is voted on this November. Whatever happens in South Dakota, 17 other states now have trigger laws or pre-Roe v.Wade laws that could automatically ban abortion if the Supreme Court were to reverse Roe. Experts believe that as many as 30 states could outlaw abortion if Roe is overturned. A myriad of restrictions already limit access to abortion in the U.S. for poor women, young women and women in the military.

We know it is time again for women of conscience to stand up and speak truth to power.

At the time of the original Ms. petition, illegal abortions were causing untold suffering in the United States, especially for poor women who had to resort to unsafe self-induced or back-alley abortions. Today, in the developing nations, approximately 70,000 women and girls die each year from botched and unsafe abortions. Another 500,000 needless maternal deaths occur. Most of this suffering and loss could be prevented. U.S. international family-planning policies contribute to the death toll: first, by conditioning U.S. aid on a global gag rule that prevents medical workers from even giving out information on abortion (let alone providing the service); second, by withholding or providing inadequate funds; and finally, by funding "abstinence-only" rather than comprehensive sex education.

We are now starting a new petition, beginning with the names of some of the original 1972 signers. They signed "to save lives and to spare other women the pain of socially imposed guilt." Their purpose was "to repeal archaic and inhuman laws." They recognized that because of the "social stigma still wrongly attached to abortion" many would not be able to sign publicly. But they invited all women to sign-"to help eliminate the stigma."

We recognize that, still, not every woman will be able to sign — 33 years after Roe — even though abortion is a very common, necessary and important procedure for millions of women in the U.S. But if a multitude of women step forward publicly, and more and more continue to join us, we will transform the public debate.

We know that women who have had abortions have spoken out many times during the last 33 years, and millions of women and men have marched in countless rallies and demonstrations. It is time to speak out again -- in even larger numbers -- and to make politicians face their neighbors, influential members of the community and, yes, their own family members who have had abortions. We cannot, must not, lose the right to safe and accessible abortion or access to birth control -- for U.S. women and the women of the world. Just as in 1972, Ms. will send the signed petitions to the White House, members of Congress and state legislators. We will also post the petition online. And we ask signers to make a contribution so Ms. can promote the petition and provide needed funds to fight abortion bans and support targeted abortion providers, such as the sole remaining women's clinic in Mississippi.

Your name and your voice will make a difference.

To add your name to the petition, go to www.msmagazine.com.

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Abort BUSH and the Republican Party
Posted by: thinkverybig on Oct 6, 2006 12:23 AM   
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We need to abort BUSH and the Republican Congress and send them all to jail.

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excellent
Posted by: rsaxto on Oct 6, 2006 12:35 AM   
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This is an excellent idea. The function of the Bushies is to pass archaic and inhuman laws like abortion bans, torture and mass murder illegal warfare. It is a gross tragedy in the early 21st century that we are saddled with these Neanderthal throwbacks. Vote out most of the Congress and require that a decent Congress impeach the election-stealing fake members of the Presidency.

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» RE: excellent Posted by: randyfoss
» RE: excellent Posted by: Envi
» RE: excellent Posted by: yellow
I had two abortions
Posted by: Lizmv on Oct 6, 2006 2:51 AM   
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The first at 17, being lucky enough to live a short drive from NYC where it was legal, where my mother's ob-gyn spent Saturdays performing abortions. Through his practice, he had become a firm believer in a woman's right to control her own body. He strongly felt that abortion was a medical choice that the government had no business regulating.
The second was due to failed birth control, much later, when I could see the light at the end of the very long tunnel of raising two daughters alone. Knowing that I would be raising another child alone, I simply did not have it left in me to do it.
There have been LOTS of issues in my life that have emotionally scared me, but abortion IS NOT ONE OF THEM. I felt nothing but great relief afterwards.

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» Too much information Posted by: ISlamIslam
» so when your friends Posted by: sln70
» RE: so when your friends Posted by: randyfoss
» RE: so when your friends Posted by: Envi
» do me a favour Posted by: sln70
» RE: do me a favour Posted by: okcamp
» RE: Too much information Posted by: xi_people
» RE: Too much information Posted by: ISlamIslam
» RE: Too much information Posted by: rinpochet
» lemme guess, you're a man! Posted by: deborama
» RE: lemme guess, you're a man! Posted by: ISlamIslam
» RE: Too much information Posted by: jc1234
» RE: Too much information Posted by: Cthulhu
» RE: I had two abortions Posted by: fluffmuffinmom
» RE: I had two abortions Posted by: Cthulhu
» Must be nice Posted by: russianblue1
» RE: I had two abortions Posted by: swedemily
Barbara Bush had an abortion but it lived
Posted by: mat38 on Oct 6, 2006 3:45 AM   
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anmd it's name is George W.

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abort fakeleftism and lifestyle leftism
Posted by: political_outcast on Oct 6, 2006 5:23 AM   
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instead return to economic leftism and bring ordinary americans back to leftism. Stop making leftism into interest-group leftism and instead target all working class americans as potential leftists, not just young unmarried women, racial minorities, gays, and metrosexuals.

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Abandon abortion as an issue
Posted by: silkreed on Oct 6, 2006 6:17 AM   
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This is so counterproductive for the left. I had an abortion a long time ago -- I was naïve and had woefully inadequate sex education -- and I'm glad I did, but the main thing is, one moves on. (I'm now happily married with two beautiful teenage daughters.) Abortion is never a Good Thing in itself; it's nasty to think about, whether you're on the right or the left, and who wants to sign a petition if they're afraid they'll get hauled over the coals like Lizmv?

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» The Republican "Culture of Life" Posted by: mrcentrist
» RE: Abandon abortion as an issue Posted by: crabbygoat
Contraception, not abortion
Posted by: jmoore on Oct 6, 2006 6:50 AM   
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If information about and access to reliable contraception were guaranteed as a basic human right, and if contraception and voluntary sterilization were made covered expenses on health insurance plans, then the necessity for abortions would be greatly reduced. Women have always sought to gain control over their own bodies and will continue to do so. Let's make it easier for them.

Preventing conception is eminently respectful of life: the theory of contraception recognizes that a child is so important that it deserves to be born into a situation where it will be loved and cared for.

Those who oppose contraception as tantamount to abortion are following an impractical doctrine. This planet cannot support a population who believes every egg a woman produces is sacred and should be given the opportunity to develop into a human. For those who believe that a "lost" egg could become the individual who will cure cancer or save the world from itself, I respectfully counter with the argument that we should spend our resources ensuring education and opportunities for the children who are already born, since any born human has equal potential for greatness.

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» RE: Contraception, not abortion Posted by: brokenbendystraw
» RE: Contraception, not abortion Posted by: crabbygoat
IT'S ABOUT AFFORDABILITY
Posted by: VZEQICVA on Oct 6, 2006 7:50 AM   
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Women who can afford an abortion will never be prohibited. But the poorer among us will be controlled by legislation. Having nothing to do with the morality of abortion. It's about a need to control lives not to protect them. It's hypocrisy. Federal legislation demanding that a child be brought into the world is discriminatory because it never applies to all women. Only those who can't afford a way around it. That's what has to be addressed. Thanks, ANNA

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Moral Conviction vs Reality
Posted by: NoPCZone on Oct 6, 2006 8:19 AM   
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The secret to Democracy is compromise and it seems that this one issue is the poster child for single issue litmus tests and polarization. As a Baby Boomer, this issue has been in the center of American politics longer than I have been able to vote. As a Christian, I have heard it discussed in the halls of faith almost all of my life. As an active participant in politics, I have heard this discussed and argued at kitchen tables, conference tables, diner tables, restaurant tables dining room tables and in classrooms. As a health care worker, I have had the opportunity to discuss this with Doctors, Nurses and others in lounges, break rooms, etc. many times.

Despite having heard all of the arguments and presentations, this issue does not present an easy answer and rarely one that everyone can agree on. Without some compromise, we will never move past this issue and the shadow that it projects across all American politics. Even compromise seems like a distant hope but hope we must.

Both sides of the issue have compelling aspects to their arguments and positions. The choice position's emphasis on personal privacy and a woman's right to control her own body is legitimate. The anti-abortion position's discomfort with terminating an otherwise viable human life is also legitimate. I'm sure the last 3 sentences have managed to piss off 99% of the people who will read this, but this is the crux of the problem.

Compromise is going to be the only way this issue will ever be resolved. One side will never accept unrestricted abortion on demand and the other side will not accept a complete ban on abortion. Strange as it seems, both sides have real and valid reasons and reasoning to support their opposition to the extremes.

After much thought, this is where I have come to regarding the issue:
1- Abortion needs to be removed from clinics and into the hospitals where it belongs. There are significant medical issues with the consequences of the way many clinics are handling patients. This is a significant surgical procedure and should be treated as such for the protection of the health of the patient.
2- Any woman should be able to get an abortion from a qualified Physician after consultation and full informed consent. There are legitimate health-risk issues for the patient seeking an abortion and any woman seeking an abortion should be provided that information, without prejudice, from a qualified and informed licensed professional.
3- All licensed Hospitals should be required to allow Physicians to perform abortion procedures as long as proper informed consent, best practices care and medical follow-up are provided by the Physician. No corner cutting should be allowed.
4- Abortions past the first trimester should only be available if a Physician determines that a compelling Medical need exists for the woman. If they decide that they do not want their baby from a viable pregnancy past the first trimester every reasonable effort should be made to allow the pregnancy to go full term and the baby offered up for adoption.
5- Public money should not be used to pay for abortion procedures performed for the purpose of birth control. Any abortion deemed appropriate and/or necessary by a Physician on medical grounds should be paid for by either insurance or public health programs.
6- No private insurance company should be able to deny a claim for any medically necessary abortion for any reason. Likewise, no insurance company should be compelled to pay for abortion used for the purpose of birth control.

It's not a perfect proposal, but is about the best I can see that addresses the rights and health needs of women while addressing the moral/ethical concerns of those who oppose abortion as a method of birth control. No 'pure' bill is going to be able to stand in our political and legal system and environment.

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Abortion is not recreation
Posted by: tashi on Oct 6, 2006 9:10 AM   
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No wonder lefties are considered loonies. Abortion is being treated as a recreation. Its a choice that women ought to make only under extreme cases such as rape and danger to the life of the mother.
Emphasis should be upon reducing the number of abortions by providing universal contraception education, and availability of contraceptions including morning-after pills.
In countries such as France where the abortion rate is much lower, its based upon proper education and availability of contraceptive methods.
And if you are not responsible enough to control your body, then don't sleep around. Goes for both men and women.

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» RE: Abortion is not recreation/ CASTRATE MEN Posted by: jonestown kool-aid
» RE: Abortion is not recreation/ CASTRATE MEN Posted by: jonestown kool-aid
» RE: SLEEPING AROUND Posted by: Envi
» RE: Abortion is not recreation Posted by: grammasanity
Ok, St. Paul
Posted by: sln70 on Oct 6, 2006 9:14 AM   
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whatever you say. :eyeroll:

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Freedom!
Posted by: Ripke on Oct 6, 2006 9:21 AM   
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Come on! This is the US of A. We have freedom! Doesn't that mean we can do whatever we want?

This attitude is why our country is in such shambles right now. Let's just do whatever we want, regardless of consequences and regardless of the effect our actions have on other problem.

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leftist woman with conscience- not a Roman Catholic either!!
Posted by: pvalemont@bigpond.com on Oct 6, 2006 9:20 AM   
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Abortion is not about a woman's right to control "her own body"- instead, it is about the control she exercises over the body of the human life within her, which belongs to both her and the father of the child, but ultimately belongs only to itself. How many women can say they aborted with the best interests of the child in mind? Abortion is a grave issue, and the decision to abort should only be taken in extreme circumstances. Abortion is not a done deal with the left. How dare you write as if it is!?

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I Had An Abortion
Posted by: grammasanity on Oct 6, 2006 9:47 AM   
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It was when I was 20, in 1965. It was done without anaesthetic, by a doctor who attempted to be sexual with me while I was on the table. I was arrested as I walked out of the doctor's office, hospitalized for a week, including a D&C and a reaction to the antibiotics they gave me. Two years later, I had to fly to Ohio to testify against the doctor, or they were going to put ME in jail.
Is this what you arrogant and ignorant young men want for your wives and girlfriends if, in spite of being "careful and responsible", or even saying 'NO' and being overruled by superior force?
I now have three healthy and happy adult children and ten grandchildren. Obviously having an abortion didn't interfere with my reproduction in the long run.
And if you believe in spiritual things, the 'soul' whose potential body I aborted, was born, not much later, to a wealthy family able to give her all the advantages, and is now one of my best friends.
LIFE is not contingent on MATTER.
There is no moral grounds to oppose abortion, since the soul can easily find another way to incarnate.

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» RE: I Had An Abortion Posted by: TooDamnCool
» RE: I Had An Abortion Posted by: okcamp
» RE: I Had An Abortion Posted by: TooDamnCool
» RE: I Had An Abortion Posted by: jonestown kool-aid
» She didn't murder her child. Posted by: MatthewSavage
» RE: She didn't murder her child. Posted by: TooDamnCool
» RE: She didn't murder her child. Posted by: MatthewSavage
» RE: She didn't murder her child. Posted by: MatthewSavage
» Troll Posted by: fork
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» RE: She didn't murder her child. Posted by: wolfdaughter
» RE: I Had An Abortion Posted by: ethanay
» RE: I Had An Abortion Posted by: Maureen E. Mellom
» Must be nice Posted by: russianblue1
» RE: I Had An Abortion Posted by: ladyoracle
Against abortion? Don't have one.
Posted by: mviscid on Oct 6, 2006 9:54 AM   
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Personal choice is just that: personal. All y'all anti-abortion people can rant and rave as you like. None of your womb-envy or guilt-attempts will make a shit if I have an unintended pregnancy and decide to abort. Like others said above, our species' success is no longer measured in fruitfulness; we have that covered. In my life, our success is measured in how we live our lives and what we do with the responsibility of our western society's affluence. Admit you don't know what it feels like to want to abort - it's okay. I'll admit I don't know what it feels like to want a baby.

(Plus: Accidents happen. You can be responsible and use birth control 100% correctly and it can still fail you. Ease up on people, you've never walked in their moccasins. You don't know! Kindness and respect are implicit when you withhold judgement of others. It's called being civil.)

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» RE: Against abortion? Don't have one. Posted by: jonestown kool-aid
Pro-lifers,please read
Posted by: kww355 on Oct 6, 2006 10:55 AM   
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I think I can safely speak for those of us who are pro-choice. None of us is "pro-abortion". It is the last resort for any thinking woman and probably 95% of those who have one. ( I'm sure some women have them repeatedly as birth control due to laziness or ignorance & I'm not denying that. )

If there were a foolproof method of birth control that was safe,easy & inexpensive, there would be many fewer abortions.

In my own case, I knew at 5 years old, I never wanted to grow up and be a "mommy". I didn't change my mind. I tried to get my tubes tied starting at 19 and fought repeatedly with the ONLY gynecologist in my little village for TEN YEARS.

I kept getting, "you'll change your mind", "what if you get married ?", "you're too young to make a permanent decision like that", ad nauseum.

I brought it up every time I went to him. After ten years, he startled me by looking through my chart and saying, "You've been trying to get me to tie your tubes for a long time, haven't you?" I had my surgery two weeks later.

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» RE: Pro-lifers,please read Posted by: ladyoracle
» ripke Posted by: kww355
» RE: Pro-lifers,please read Posted by: Annarisse
» RE: Pro-lifers,please read Posted by: flairndip
worthwhile
Posted by: ladyoracle on Oct 6, 2006 11:05 AM   
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I am interested to see what, if anything, comes out of this petition. I subscribe to Ms. and have had an abortion, but I didn't sign the petition because I am not comfortable having my name on such a public list, especially since it'll be available on the internet. It seems like an invitation for harassment, which wouldn't have been the case with the 1972 hard copy of the petition.

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» I am with you Posted by: kimbokel
» I agree. Posted by: Monkfish
There are a LOT of little babies born to crack moms who would be happier NOT being born
Posted by: IMPEACHtheterrorists on Oct 6, 2006 11:09 AM   
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Posted by: IMPEACHtheterrorists on Oct 6, 2006 10:55 AM

Until people like YOU line up to adopt babies born on Crack, You have got NO leg to stand on....... Do you think just anyone should be a parent? Because just anyone can (and often does) end up pregnant? Even drug addicts get pregnant. You need to grow up.... sometimes Abortion is a good thing whether you can stand to hear it or not, give those babies souls a chance to be born to someone who will love them! I dont see you lining up to adopt those "unwanted" crack babies, or all the babies born to HIV + parents. I just see you wanting to bomb abortion clinics, and witchhunt the women down and hang em if they have had an abortion. You people make me crazy. Back off my body! Back off my RIGHT! Cant stand abortion? FINE----DONT HAVE ONE

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Keep It Safe And Legal
Posted by: barksnottbites on Oct 6, 2006 11:09 AM   
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I believe wholeheartedly in keeping abortion safe and legal. Creative ideas for how we can maintain our health as women keeping laws to keep us safe and Doctors informed!
However, my own abortion was not the high point of my life and I surely wouldnt want anybody to have to go through it, I wouldnt want to wear a button like an advertisement like it were some great thing and yet,.. I still absolutely believe in it needing abortion to be always safe and available for All women. For All time. This is a health issue. Women and All people need comprehensive attention to their heath; body, mind, spirit. Hopefully as we all evolve we wont need to have so many abortions, but that is a Different issue. I guess I'll just wear a button that says 'Keep It Safe & Legal' for now. It's feminine to be true to our selves and integrated I am open to new ideas.

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The Racism of the Pro-Life Movement
Posted by: Kym525 on Oct 6, 2006 11:16 AM   
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I'm willing to bet big money that if it were black or latina women having a lot of abortions, the mostly white and upper-class folks of the pro-life movement would have nothing to say. In fact since most of them are probably anti-immigrant anyway, they'd feel pretty good that they won't be outnumbered by little brown people.

Then again it takes the tragedy of white children being lost in senseless school shootings to make these people care about black and brown children in the innder cities. Oh wait, they DON'T care because when violence happens to kids in urban areas, nary a hue nor cry is raised. Where's the outrage when bullets took the life of a three-year old girl, or of a ten year-old boy riding his bike?

Also, I'd be more than curious how these "righteous" white folks would react if their precious daughters came home pregnant and the father is either black or brown. Hmm...

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I've often wondered...
Posted by: sausage on Oct 6, 2006 11:16 AM   
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I've often wondered how "pro-lifers"--and I surround that phrase in quotation marks because many anti-abortionists likewise espouse the death penality--would feel if the Christian Taliban having acheived the stated goal of outlawing abortion also, citing some arcane biblical verse, began outlawing plastic surgery?

Perhaps the interpetation of Leviticus 19:28, "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.", could be stretched to include facelifts, tummy-tucks and boob jobs?
Maybe Romans 9:20 applies:"But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? "Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, 'Why did you make me like this?' "?

Gee, if god doesn't want women to have abortion surgery why's it O.K. with him that women, especially wealthy white ones, get plastic surgery?

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» RE: I've often wondered... Posted by: Annarisse
» Must be nice Posted by: russianblue1
» Back at ya! Posted by: sausage
» RE: Back at ya! Posted by: TheNamelessCity
» Be fair, now... Posted by: MatthewSavage
» RE: Be fair, now... Posted by: fork
China's got it right!
Posted by: Ripke on Oct 6, 2006 11:32 AM   
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Let's limit people to one baby and after that mutilate their genitals so they can't reproduce anymore. Then we won't have to worry about un-wanted pregnancies. No, wait, let's just limit to high schoolers who have babies, since most of them can't take care of themselves much less a baby. Or maybe you should have to have a certain IQ to have a baby. Wait, then most you pro-death people wouldn't be allowed to have any babies.

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» Chill Posted by: sausage
» RE: Chill Posted by: Ripke
» So it's O.K. with you... Posted by: sausage
» RE: Chill/ TAKE A CLASS IN LOGIC Posted by: 1984NOW!!!
Either offer real help or leave people alone
Posted by: Callibrarian on Oct 6, 2006 12:09 PM   
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I'm tired of seeing a bunch of people standing around holding signs when they could be adopting the 119,000 foster children up for adoption. I am tired of them having bumper stickers when they could have given that money to food pantries. I have seen people talk the talk then walk the walk---out the door, when you ask them to do something concrete like HELP. My family spent every weekend for over a year driving donated food from supermarkets to shelters and charities. Though there were plenty of others available at church, few were willing to give up even one weekend a year. I volunteered twice a week at another church. Though there were several hun