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Hip Hop Journos Speak Out Against Sexism

By Sabrina Ford, Pop and Politics. Posted May 31, 2005.


Fueled by a recent sexual harassment lawsuit against The Source magazine, a growing number of hip-hop journalists, activists, and fans are signing a petition denouncing sexism in the hip-hop industry.
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Last month, Kim Osorio, former editor-in-chief of The Source, and Michelle Joyce, former vice president of marketing, filed charges of gender discrimination and sexual harassment against co-owners Raymond “Benzino” Scott and David Mays. In response to the allegations, Scott and Mays were quoted in interviews with AllHipHop.com alleging that Osorio engaged in sexual relationships with several rappers while employed by The Source.

Confused about the relevance of Osorio’s alleged affairs in connection with the law suit? If so, you certainly wouldn’t be alone. Established hip-hop journalists Elizabeth Mendez Berry, who recently wrote a controversial piece about hip-hop and violence against women for Vibe magazine, and Jeff Chang, author of "Can’t Stop Won’t Stop: A History of the Hip Hop Generation," also failed to see the relevance.

A petition denouncing sexual harassment at The Source is now circulating on line. Mendez Berry and Chang, who, along with Joan Morgan, are behind the petition, discuss their reaction to allegations of sexual harassment at The Source and what prompted the petition.

PopandPolitics.com: What was your initial reaction to the allegations of sexual harassment at The Source?

Jeff Chang: I wasn't surprised. Sexual harassment at The Source and in the "urban music industry" has been a poorly kept secret for decades. As women have moved into leadership, particularly in hip-hop journalism, I think there has been more push-back. But we haven't reached the tipping point yet past which there's an open conversation and a trend towards changing the situation, so most women I see still suffer in silence.

PP: What was your reaction to the comments Mays and Benzino made about Kim Osorio's sexual relationships?

Elizabeth Mendez Berry: Part of me laughed. How oblivious can they be? Who are their lawyers? As far as I know, Mays initially tried to retract his statements about Osorio, but then the following day Benzino said the same thing about her, and soon after, Mays was reiterating it himself [on AllHipHop.com]. So they feel pretty comfortable with what they’ve said.

Their arrogance, and the fact that they had no idea that what they were saying was completely self-incriminating, really spoke to the level of entitlement that some men in hip-hop feel. And of course, these are two men who say that they are on a crusade to preserve the music, men who consider themselves community leaders. I also found it really interesting that Mays, a white man who was so invested in critiquing Eminem’s sexism against women of color, was so quick to jump back into the old “she’s a ho / she’s a bitch” paradigm when two women of color confronted him. Benzino was up there criticizing Eminem as well, but it seems like both of them were fair-weather feminists.

So that was kind of amusing. At the same time, I was really saddened: the idea that a woman bringing a suit would be subject to this kind of speculation is frightening for anyone who works in the business. Plus the fact that a significant number of people spent time on the Internet speculating about Osorio’s sexual history really reminded me of how sexist our community is.

PP: How did this petition come about?

EMB: The thing for me was getting it on the public record that what Mays and Benzino had said was unacceptable to other people who are part of the profession. Oftentimes in hip-hop, we get exasperated and furrow our brows and then we don’t do anything, so I wanted to present a clear response to their behavior that came from within hip-hop journalism, so that it would not be seen as outsiders wagging their fingers. I feel like we need to be clear that this is a profession and that people are expected to behave professionally. Just because it is hip-hop doesn’t mean people can get away with behavior that would never be tolerated in any other context.


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Sabrina Ford is a student at San Francisco State University where she also works with the Center for Integration and Improvement in Journalism.

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Finally!
Posted by: janvdb on Jun 1, 2005 10:57 AM   
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Ark aark ark!! -- this is sooooo funny.

What a couple of ridiculous losers these two blowhards are! They sit there calling women whores and just have NO idea how stupid they look.

Hiphop is sexist. Water is wet. These men quake inside and abuse women to make themselves feel a little better. The sky is up. These men are a joke. The sun is bright.

If black men wanted to make themselves look like total losers, total fools and totally lowclass, utterly clueless, without style, uneducated and doomed from the start -- well they have found the way right here. Abuse women, boys!! Wifebeating to enhance your status!! Yeah, now THAT'S an idea with LEGS!!

Who needs education, hard work, self discipline and a plan to get ahead in life and gain status, security and respect when you can just SLAP THE BITCH?????

The bluster is a blast! All that macho just makes me HOWL!

What a bunch of insecure little boys -- they're a big joke and THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW IT.

If they really felt good about themselves and their "manhood," would they have to talk about it nonstop, over and over, repeatedly? What, besides deep quaking fear of not being good enough and/or a damned sneaking suspicion that society has put them at the bottom of the heap coupled with an absolute refusal to do anything productive about that, would keep these losers so fixated abuse and denigration of women for hours and hours on end -- the hiphop stations just pump it out 24/7.

aark ark ark aaaaaaark!! Haaaaaaaaaaaa ha ha!! Waaaahaha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!

Keep it up, boys, we need the laughs!!

Jan VanDenBerg

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It's the patriarchy...
Posted by: loba70 on Jun 1, 2005 10:15 PM   
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hard at work. If only trickle-down economics worked the way that trickle-down oppression does. White men in power have been abusing everyone for years, including and maybe sometimes especially, white women, but if enslaving the black race for over 400 years wasn't enough (and I could argue that it is still going on today though it might look a little different), in a new all-time low, the powerful, wealthy, white men are "allowing" black men into the "boy's club", to a degree, and they are showing them the ropes. Power and wealth are things to be respected, women are not. Women are evil, they will distract you from you goals. Women will make you soft and life is hard and we must always be prepared for war. Women want peace. Women are the enemy. It is here that most men these days tend to be "color-blind".

Now, I understand about personal responsibility and choice, but the social issues of this country can never be left out of the equation and you have to feel like you have a choice to make a choice. You go against the Establishment and you are going against your money and your money keeps you alive in this country. Those who feel weak will always look to oppress those "perceived" to be weaker than themselves. It only gets insidious when the oppressor believes he is "helping" the oppressed. If this is where men feel they need to "take care" of women, don't do us any favors.

It gives me hope that some of the men of hip-hop are standing beside the women and helping them to fight. It makes me sad that the women have to fight in the first place.

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what is a "journo"?
Posted by: melaninjitsu on Jun 3, 2005 8:14 AM   
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It's called JOURNALISM. If spelling the entire word out is too much work for you, you've probably chosen the wrong profession.

This is a scam. Fighing sexism in hip hop without highlighting women who are making a difference and have been for the past 20 years (or so) is simply dishonest, and these charlatans are taking adavantage of every opportunity to not do their fucking jobs. Jeff is promoting a book. The other two are trying to get on VH-1, I guess. If you're a hip-hop journalist, just report on the hip hop nation. If you can't FIND or IDENTIFY the hip hop nation, you are a failure as a hip hop journalist, and so I say, get thee to the post office. The hip hop nation is not the Source magazine, nor is it BET. This "growing movement" gets down like "we're not gonna take it anymore". But really...take what? mistreatment in music videos? Like women like Karen Mason and Wendy Day never existed. Like Dedra Davis, Esq. isn't out here representing small labels, producers, writers, and artists. Here's a sister who took on Interscope and won and we're talking about what? Women are making serious impact in hip hop, putting money in people's hands and feeding families. There are female DJs who could use some attention, female lawyers and publicists out here representing and sisters running indie labels, but all these clowns want to talk about is chicks in bathing suits and Dave fucking Mays. PLEASE.

Let's talk HIP HOP. Stop this nonsense.

I'm tired of having my culture used to sell cheeseburgers, candy, and to promote people who have nothing else to say.

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What's the underlying problem?
Posted by: loba70 on Jun 4, 2005 9:10 AM   
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I grew up in the 70's and 80's at the birth of hip-hop and "things ain't like they used to be". Things get "co-opted" and for lack of a better word, "re-marginalized". Obviously, we are opinionated and the article has struck a chord, but where are we directing that anger? What is the underlying problem? If we're going to have unity in the culture, what's the assessment. I'm interested to know what everyone thinks.

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Record companies control the content
Posted by: dlf on Jun 5, 2005 9:36 AM   
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Well let's be clear here. Record companies decide what the product looks and sounds like. Take a guy like Nas for an example, he transverses across a spectrum of sensitive subjects. He is considered by many to be a musical prophet, but he mixes message music with violent lyrics. So did Tupak. Ultimately there are those who just like to write nasty and violent lyrics, who have no conscience let alone one that is political. But record companies who distribute the records and I think we can all agree are overwhelmingly white, have guided this music. And those artist who have sought to rise above do not get the same kind of airplay, or promotion as someone talking about "back that thang up gurl..."

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Power struggles...
Posted by: loba70 on Jun 5, 2005 5:00 PM   
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is really what we are talking about here. I agree with everyone's perspective on this. Jan, you are absolutely right that other cultures can be as sexist as ours, if not worse in practice and mind you, ours is made up of many cultures, but I guess my point is that you have to look at where the power is in THIS country like Kim was saying, not only in terms of physical strength, but monetary power and ownership in a land of supposed "equal opportunity". Oprah is an exception to the rule and even she isn't in the Top 5%. For all of Oprah's clout, I've no doubt that there are things she will never be able to influence.

Now, when we're talking about record companies, dlf, you're dead on. Most artists are gonna do what they gotta do to get paid because the creative control just isn't their's and that means mimicking the mainstream even if they weren't about it in the first place. Jay-Z dropped that on The Black Album. Nas, though maybe not the most enlightened brother in terms of sexism, has and always has had a strong message that supercedes any misogyny in his lyrics and that is why he will never go mainstream, though he can get one past here and there. It IS about airplay, exposure, etc...and it's about what people in charge WANT you to hear. Nas sells, but you gotta go looking for him. White record companies just don't want to hear a racial or pro-woman message.

This article is exposing The Source because that is a widely distributed magazine and obviously their influence matters. This situation is just a microcosm of the larger media issues going on this country and again, it is about ownership. People have a choice to speak their minds and speak the truth, but they aren't going to get exposure and unless they get lucky, they aren't going to get paid.

Sex sells, misogyny sells, and until women can get more control and more ownership, I personally don't see an end to it. Even enlightened, responsible males fall victim to THAT Game.

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my girl Kym525
Posted by: kittykat on Sep 3, 2005 8:32 PM   
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Amen sister!! You are absolutely right but since people in this country wouldn't know 'fairness' if it bit them in their fake,phony,bullshit asses we won't see 5,000 articles about all the disgusting,disgraceful,perverted, and EXTREMELY misogynistic garbage coming from rock stars. And the jvnb's of the world wouldn't have a justification for their racism and censorship disguised as morality I don't hear everyone especially the holier than thou racist hypocrites whining all day and night about them. Even though I don't necessarily find everything in hip-hop so wonderful I'm wondering where is that same righteous indignation from black women towards sleazy Hollywood movies or tv shows like "Law&Order" or "The Practice" that only view black women as the most negative of negative stereotypes including the old standard skanky 'ho'. Where's all the goddamn complaining then so let me get this straight it apparently IS ok though for white males to display black women as 'bitches and hos' what a bunch of grandstanding bullshit. For examples just look no further than the sending the black feamle empowerment ideal back 1,000 years movie "Monster's Ball" I'm surprised Billy Bob didn't hand over money it at least would have been more consistent. Even so-called reality tv is leaving no stone unturned when it comes to negative images of black females not that those women are exactly angels but damn they are going out of their way to cast the most obnoxious females they can find to point 'see,I told you so' fingers but noone has an issue with that. The supposed 'journalists' are nothing but spoiled,whiny,no talent bitches trying to get attention for themselves and frankly punk ones at that since they don't have 'fairness' and constantly criticize WHITE males so they don't piss off their white male bosses.

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