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Mad for Rachel Maddow

By Rebecca Traister, The Nation. Posted August 7, 2008.


Will Maddow's unlikely success, reliant on her ability to defy cliche, signal a move in punditry away from the thuggish and toward the sophisticated?
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In a year bursting with memorable moments in televised political punditry, the first may have come on January 8, when MSNBC commentator Rachel Maddow explained one of the quick-spreading theories behind Hillary Clinton's victory in New Hampshire, a surprise win that had knocked many of Maddow's on-air colleagues on their asses.

"You want to know who they're blaming for women voters breaking for Hillary Clinton over Barack Obama?" a delighted Maddow asked co-panelist Pat Buchanan and host Chris Matthews, her eyes flashing. "They're blaming Chris Matthews! People are citing specifically Chris ... not only for his own views but also as a symbol of what the mainstream media has done to Hillary Clinton."

Matthews sputtered dismissively, but Maddow wasn't done yet. "People feel the media is piling on Hillary Clinton," she said, "and they're coming to her defense with their votes." For Matthews, who'd been enjoying near rapturous pleasure over the presumptive early-season thumping of his personal hobgoblin, there could not have been worse news than that his own commentary might have paved the way for Clinton's triumph. Yet here was just this headline, delivered by Maddow, looking like Sylvester the Cat, practically licking yellow feathers from the corners of her mouth.

"I didn't mean it in a mean way at all," says Maddow over breakfast on a summer day many months and many MSNBC promotions away from that indelible January night. "But I knew that it was just going to blow his mind."

Matthews is far from the first talking head to get this treatment. Long before this primary season, clips of Maddow, an Air America host often invited on cable news shows as a ballsy gremlin of the left, zipped around the Internet. Her specialty was making Tucker Carlson's head explode, or getting under Buchanan's skin until all he could do was gibber at her about socialism. But presidential election cycles provide the hot klieg lights under which character actors mature into media leading ladies, and at 35, with fewer than five years of national broadcast experience under her belt, Rachel Maddow is the explosive star of the season. She's gone from being a popular guest analyst on MSNBC to an exclusive commentator to a regular guest host for the network's prize pig, Countdown With Keith Olbermann. Now there is increasing clang and clamor over the possibility that she will get her own show on MSNBC.

What's remarkable about Maddow's ascension is not its velocity -- Hurricane Katrina made Anderson Cooper in less than a week -- but the shifts in media it may demarcate. Maddow is one of the few left-liberal women to bust open the world of TV punditry, which has made icons of right-wing commentators like Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin. Unlike her beautiful, bilious conservative female counterparts or the cocksure boys-on-the-bus analysts, however, Maddow didn't get here by bluster and bravado but with a combination of crisp thinking and galumphing good cheer. Remarkably, this season's discovery isn't a glossy matinee idol or a smooth-talking partisan hack but a PhD Rhodes scholar lesbian policy wonk who started as a prison AIDS activist.

All of which raises a crucial question: does Maddow's unlikely success, reliant on her ability to defy cliché and categorization at every turn, signal a move in punditry away from the thuggish and the angry and toward the lucid and sophisticated? Or has her powerful charisma and canny career management allowed her to break the rules -- without actually breaking a mold?

When we meet, Maddow is halfway through an eight-night stand filling in for a vacationing Olbermann on Countdown, and she is vibrating with energy from the previous evening. She believes she has three distinct responsibilities when subbing: not messing anything up for the show's permanent stewards, keeping Olbermann's ratings high and just being Rachel Maddow. "Trying to do it as if I'm Keith isn't the best way to go," she explains.

Maddow fulfilled all three responsibilities in her July stint, showcasing her obvious facility with the medium while putting her own stamp on the program. Nonetheless, she still dwells on her anxieties about the mechanics of hosting -- when to look at the camera, when to turn to the script -- which she says Olbermann has tutored her on. "It's like rocket science, honestly," she says. "And I feel like I've got a learning curve that's like the Matterhorn! Holy mackerel!"

Of course, Olbermann recently told the Kansas City Star that his protégée mastered the technical stuff in about ten minutes, and that on the first night she stepped in for him, she didn't make a single teleprompter mistake, while he averages four or five a night. But Maddow's signature mixture of self-deprecation and gusto, her holy mackerel-ness, is as good a place as any to start thinking about her singular success. Everything about her radiates competence and a deft, bright careerism. She wants to succeed, makes no bones about campaigning for her own television show and yet evinces a regular-person charm and self-doubt that ensures you'll never mistake her ambition for bloodthirst or bullying.


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Rebecca Traister is a senior writer for Salon, where she covers women in media, politics and entertainment.

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Rachel turns me into a lovesick teenage virgin who...
Posted by: HughScott on Aug 7, 2008 2:07 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
fantasizes about spinning the bottle with her and forget all that sex stuff.

Seriously. folks, I'm not kidding. I tell my wife of 50 years that every time Rachel appears on my favorite TV show, "Countdown."

What -- she's a lesbian?

Well, good for Rachel because the orientation obviously makes her joyously happy.

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» Exactly right, CosmoViking! Posted by: HughScott
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Popping Carlson's Red Balloon Head...
Posted by: gazooks on Aug 7, 2008 3:08 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
... is public service enough. Her calm intelligence and canny demeanor is bonus. Amazing that she even got in the door, must have the shit diggers working OT.

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she should get her own show
Posted by: DrXyzzy on Aug 7, 2008 3:34 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I loved listening to Rachel in the morning slot on AirAmerica. Solid news stories, with actual journalistic analysis and a sense of context.

Media hacks, beware.

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» RE: she should get her own show Posted by: koolwoman
Ultimately Ms. Maddow will only matter
Posted by: weathered on Aug 7, 2008 3:45 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
if she has the courage to confront the cascade of crimes 9/11 wrought.
Otherwise she's another talking head for which there is an a lrg. inventory of shapes, sizes and colors to choose from.

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RACHEL GETS IT RIGHT. OKLAHOMA'S SALLY KERN SAYS THAT GAYS
Posted by: Raymond Emerson on Aug 7, 2008 4:24 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
are more dangerous than the terrorists. It is likely Sally Kern is more dangerous than the terrorists. We are actually not divided on terrorists. The right uses divide and conquer. Probably because there is a distinct chance that 9-11 was fomented by the right for their political purposes, terrorism was never as big as it appeared.. WE won't learn that for 20 years and maybe never.

We do now know that Reagan stole the White House by means of overt treason. We now know that it is likely that Bush the first had to take the White House to cover his own part in treason. We are beginning to learn how evil the right is. Its not Iran. Its not North Korea. Its the NEOCONS, George Bush and their enablers. That, of course, includes McCain.

I am saying that John McCain is a greater danger to the United States than Osama Bin Laden, North Korea, or Iran.

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» Tell me more: Posted by: CanuckKid
WellAWARE
Posted by: wellaware lec on Aug 7, 2008 4:36 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I have never in my life of 59 years listened with such rapt attention to someone on the radio. Her combination of highly educating, crisp, easy to understand, whole brained and androgenous commentary has really changed my life in some ways. I too have not watched TV for well over 10 years at this point, so if she leaves Air America, I may also, out of great disappointment.
Focusing on her sexual preference diminishes what she is about. I think of her as very androgenous, which the author embellishes with more words to make it seem an innovative approach to life. Not so; Rachel is just so damn good at it. She represents the best of what someone can be on so many levels. There are many extraordinary people out here; what is so fabulous is that she as a representative of us, is getting so much recognition in the national media, and she is nearly impossible to ultimately slander, which is the mark of truth on a very deep level.
I too have never heard her refer to 9-11 in any kind of probing way but that doesn't mean she never has done this. Woe to the people who cooperated with that travesty on so many levels, if she ever does.
Accolades to Rachel, and to this author, who has done a great job encapsulating, if that's possible, who Rachel is...

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» RE: WellAWARE Posted by: kpdsayle
POST-RACIAL, POST-GENDER and POST-GAY...
Posted by: zootlux on Aug 7, 2008 5:33 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
She takes no prisoners when dealing with the really mean and greedy. She knows the depth of the conservative hate for the Constitution... and their plans to ruin America for selfish financial gain plus their bullying contempt for people not just like them..
I learned three new important words from this article:Post-Racial,Post-Gender and Post-Gay. We all need to catch up to the importance of these discriptors and pronounce that we too are also Post-Hate.. then leave the Republican bigots in our dust. .

The Inkling

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Dear Rachel
Posted by: pcushniesr on Aug 7, 2008 5:36 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Please never become enamored of success and stardom. Please never trade integrity for your picture on the cover of Time. Always remember why we love you.

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Second Only to Keith in Honest opinions
Posted by: Purple Girl on Aug 7, 2008 5:37 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Rachel has proven when she states an opinion it is HERS- Not scripted talking points.
She is a great addition to Countdown and the main reason I bother to watch 'Race to the White House'- Just to hear her field dress Buchanan, Salam & Molinari.
She is also one of the few examples of what the Womens Movement used to stand for- 'Equality for ALL'. She makes this Ol' Libber proud when she guts the 'good ol' boys' and the 'Pay backs a Bitch at any cost' so called Feminists.
Laughed for an Hour after she handed Bachanan is ass the other night!
Give 'em Hell Rachel
And give her a Show MSNBC! Real Libbers appreciate her genuine input!

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WE *******LOVE******** the Dr.Maddow!
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Aug 7, 2008 5:49 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
not only can she make beer shoot out my nose...
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she's living PROOF that excellence, ethics & integrity aren't mutually exclusive with professional success & public adoration!


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» RE: WE *******LOVE... Posted by: ranchero42
Rachel should get "Meet the Press"
Posted by: mogelsberg on Aug 7, 2008 5:49 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Rachel is so smart, quick and honest she should be the person to do the "Meet the Press" show. She would be even better than Tim Russert. She did a fabulous job as host for "Countdown" when Keith was on vacation. No, I've changed my mind - it should be "Rachel for President"!

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"Has anybody ever heard of, RAchel MADow?"
Posted by: PJAW on Aug 7, 2008 5:52 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
That's the Rush Limbaugh quote that Rachel used as a tag line on her radio show for a long time. All over America, more and more people are shouting, "Yes, I have, and you stink by the way!"

(Question: What's the difference between Rush Limbaugh and The Hindenburg?
Answer: One's a flaming Nazi gas-bag, and the other is a dirigible.)

I subscribed to XM early on, specifically to listen to Air America. When their format changed, and "Morning Sedition" was cancelled, I dropped a note expressing my hope that Rachel would somehow continue with an on-air presence. They were smart enough to follow my advice, and her pairing with sidekick Kent Jones was some of the best stuff ever, giving real purpose to Marconi's invention. Now that she's a panelist on MSNBC's "Race for The White House", which is simulcast on her radio show, it's not nearly as compelling. Mostly because you have to listen to Pat Buchanan bluster, Rachel is only one in the crowd, and the theme music was apparently lifted from the soundtrack for Gitmo interrogations.

The Gitmo interrogations, which Rush Limbaugh likened to a fraternity hazing.
(Question: What's 18 inches long and hangs off a horse's ass?
Answer: Rush Limbaugh's necktie.)

I see Rachel as an embodiment of the new direction America has been strugging to establish for itself. She's no more a representative of any kind of gender role than Obama is of "blackness". And they both speak to that phenomenon effectively, without obsessng about it. Ghandi's famous quote of "Be the change you want to see in the world", has apparently not been lost on either of them. They've managed to transcend the pettiness that has so often forced people who are "different", into some kind of defensive posture that eventually becomes the definition of who they are. It's the most encouraging thing to witness in America right now, because we have lost so much from so many good people in the past.

Rachel, if you're reading this, I love you. A lot of us do. Just keep being who you are. If that means being a TV star, fine. If you end up being a "handyman" in rural New Hampshire, that's fine too. Lemme know if you ever need a hand repairing a fence or a toilet.

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From all the ladies...
Posted by: pikaomega on Aug 7, 2008 5:54 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
a roaring thank you to Miss Rachel.

I am (slightly) under thirty and a activist wonk myself, and, though I do not have a PhD, I thank Rachel and all those like her who have stood as competent, intelligent stewards of policy and politics in a toxic swamp of partisan hackery.

She has been the shining spot throughout this campaign, for the very rare ability to recognize and quantify the positive and negative inherent within all aspects of this race.

I bemoan the insistence upon absolutes that has become the defining factor in our political discourse, and the fact that Rachel has had the tenacity to stand up and say what we all are, or should be thinking-that any person, not to mention political aspirant, has points of both character and detriment. No one exists in black and white, and to hear her acknowledge this reality in a political context does more to advance the discourse and overall climate than the most effective pandering could ever accomplish.

It is painfully apparent that the wheat of public opinion has been disassociated from the chafe of the media narrative for some time now. The reality in which the voter exists is one that is marked by an illegitimate war, warming climate, lacking health care, crumbling infrastructure, failing schools, impending financial crisis and an overall feeling of pessimism and insecurity. One needs to look no further than the ABC Gibson/Stephanopoulos debate and the public outcry (not of the treatment of the candidates, but of the issues considered to be vital) that followed to realize that the MSM has jumped the shark. Voters know that the luxury of Rovian style politics that has marred the past 8 years is one that we can no longer afford, those that set the tone, both left and right, with a few exceptions, see that as a threat to their bottom line and will fight the whole way down.

Please, please, please, keep her going. She, and those like her, are the best, last chance that we have of putting ourselves back on the rails.

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MADDOW IS HOT IN MANY WAYS!
Posted by: drricklippin on Aug 7, 2008 6:07 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Brains and Beauty!

But most importantly,like Obama embodies a post-racial society, Maddow enbodies a post homophobic society

GO RACHEL!

Dr.Rick Lippin
Southampton,Pa
ralippin@aol.com

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Air America Radio Lost More Than Its Original Air Talents...
Posted by: SkeeterVT1 on Aug 7, 2008 6:34 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I need to expand upon the following paragraph from Rebecca Traister's excellent article:

"Maddow is one of the only original Air Americans to be left standing after the company's rocky four-and-a-half-year history, and her mainstream success is an unqualified victory for the network. If she got plucked away by grabby television hands, it would be a tough loss. 'We view her as a homegrown talent,' says Air America chairman Charles Kireker, who has run the network since February. 'We hope and expect to have her continue hosting a radio show on Air America for a long time.'"

* * *

Indeed, Maddow, Laura Flanders and Sam Seder are the only members of the original class of Air America Radio on-air talents still on the network.

"Morning Sedition" hosts Marc Marron and Mark Riley are gone. Marron returned to stand-up comedy in Los Angeles and Riley chose to stay with the network's former flagship station in New York, WLIB, when Air America moved to rival station WWRL.

Randi Rhodes and Mike Milloy quit Air America for the rival liberal talk-radio network, NovaM -- taking 30 of Air America's 100 affiliates with them.

Al Franken, of course, is now running for the U.S. Senate in his native Minnesota.

And Jeanne Garofalo, who co-hosted "The Majority Report" with Seder, was fired. Flanders is the network's sole surviving original weekend host.

Air America today is a much smaller network than it was when I listened to it regularly on its Burlington, Vermont affiliate, WVAA (Now ESPN-affiliated all-sports WCAT). By the time it declared bankruptcy in late 2006, the network had shrunk to fewer than 50 affiliates.

Now it has about 60 stations -- only one-tenth the size of Rush Limbaugh's so-called "Excellence in Broadcasting" network (Limbaugh's show is syndicated by Clear Channel's Premiere Radio Networks).

So it's pretty safe to say that Maddow has far more viewers on MSNBC than she has listeners on Air America, given the talk-radio network's massive hemorrhaging of talent, listeners and affiliate stations.

It wasn't my decision to stop listening to Air America -- that decision was made by the owners of the local affiliate in my hometown who decided to change formats and dump Air America in favor of ESPN Radio.

But after listening to the network through its Web stream, I was't happy with what I was listening to. I miss "Morning Sedition" -- I thought it was the most irreverent show on the network.

I don't really care for Lionel. Thom Hartmann, the best of the network's current crop, really belongs on National Public Radio. Randi Rhodes was the heart and soul of Air America and her departure leaves too big a void for the network to fill.

The Air America I enjoyed just four short years ago just doesn't cut it for me anymore.

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» A minor correction Posted by: BobKincaid
Keep on..keeping on...Rachel
Posted by: rfgtile on Aug 7, 2008 6:36 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Hurray for Rachel! She is the most refreshing thing to hit the media in my 77 year old "white dude" memory.

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Heck, I've even gotten my entire family to become Maddow fans
Posted by: Sagan on Aug 7, 2008 6:59 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I started watching MSNBC during the primary season, where I was first introduced to Rachel Maddow in their primary night election coverage. I've been hooked on Kieth Olbermann and Rachel Maddow ever since. Rachel's uniqueness doesn't just stem from her intriguing androgyny; she's the ANTI-pundit....or at least she's broken the mold.

Rather than spew out partisan talking points, sloppily and blindly defending left-wing or right-wing preconceived notions and biases to further her own side's agenda (like the dichotomy of bitter, close-minded clowns they often invite to appear on CNN), Rachel possesses an almost ZEN-LIKE clarity and insightfulness. She consistently brings level-headed candor to the conversation, informed facts rather than skewed opinions; she radiates this kind of wisdom without the most remote inkling of arrogance or cockiness.

The humility and good nature that seems to come across through the camera only tends to make her seem that MUCH MORE trustworthy... It's weird thing, but I feel that it's one of Maddow's greatest qualities: that genuine humility. It something no other talking head has. I think it's possibly one of the strongest factors in her success.

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As much as I like Olbermann...
Posted by: Farkle on Aug 7, 2008 7:14 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
...I don't miss him when Rachel is presiding over his show. She is a breath of fresh air in a medium full of hot CO2.

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MSNBC appearance
Posted by: chairthrower on Aug 7, 2008 7:16 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I remember the first time I saw her on MSNBC during the primaries. It was in April (I don't watch MSNBC all that much) and she was on the panel with Pat Buchanan and all the others. I knew I knew the voice but I couldn't place her until they said her name.

She was wearing so much makeup as opposed to every other picture I'd seen of her that it totally threw me. It was a little offputting, since she seemed to be going mainstream as opposed to her more traditional boyish look.

But her analysis was incomparably brilliant, and she was just leaving the rest of the panel in the dust. As long as she sticks to her principles in that regard, she can look however she (or her corporate overlords) wants.

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Shirl
Posted by: toots on Aug 7, 2008 7:18 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I would like to see her on the McGlaulin group on PBS, however I don't want her to replace Keith O, I think he is great too, they are good together***

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Yes, Rachael is fresh and unhackneyed.................
Posted by: yogendra2 on Aug 7, 2008 7:27 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
both in content and style. This article, however, is not, and I fail to see how the cliched, both in content and style, can very well represent Ms. Maddow, whom I adore. Rebecca, could you get a lesson here?

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Another American
Posted by: 876 on Aug 7, 2008 7:30 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
What's so “sophisticated” about this woman? Didn’t she propose expanding the war in Afghanistan? She sounds like another war mongering hysterical lunatic. In America even the "sophisticates" aren’t happy unless they’re killing someone waging their wars somewhere.

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No Questions?
Posted by: nolafugees on Aug 7, 2008 7:32 AM   
Current rating: 1    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
While Maddow presents a "alternative," "far-left" view to the center and right-lite pundits that populate MSNBCs vision of the political landscape, does no one consider that her own advocacy of "left" issues (generally presented in opposition to P.Buchanan) sets up a false dialectic (seeing as how GE is doing the broadcasting)?

Could the fact that she is a Rhodes scholar presenting "left-wing" views on an global energy interest's house organ be potentially problematic?

Or are you so happy to have a pony in the same race as Coulter that it doesn't matter?

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My two cents
Posted by: Tomas44 on Aug 7, 2008 7:41 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Long live Rachel Maddow!

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Rachel Maddow Rules!
Posted by: cherylholmes on Aug 7, 2008 7:44 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Rachel Maddow rules even in Texas! I could care less about anyone's sexual orientation, I look at "who" a person is. Rachel blows me away...what an awesome combination of brawn, guts, and intellect. I admire the hell out of her!

Now, can we get MSNBC to stop censoring Countdown's video podcasts? They've been censored and made unavailable for weeks now. I've emailed them and called them.. I urge everyone to do the same. I first noticed it when Keith would mention certain things the WH was offended by..the censoring started then. Now it's complete. Countdown is no longer available via online video podcast.

Please call MSNBC to protest at
1-212-664-4444

Rachel was awesome subbing for Keith! You go girl...but wish you loved animals...:o(

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What is it about Rachel?
Posted by: willymack on Aug 7, 2008 7:57 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Is it her keen intellect? Partly, but don't forget, most Americans have NO intellectual life to speak of. Is it her beauty? Despite her best efforts to butch up her appearance, she's STILL beautiful. Is it her courage under fire? I think we're getting warmer here. What it is about Rachel Maddow is that she's LOVEABLE.

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You go, girl!
Posted by: Democritus on Aug 7, 2008 8:06 AM   
Current rating: 5    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Rachel tells it the way it is, clearly and succinctly and without hype. What else would we expect from a Stanford grad?

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» RE: You go, girl! Posted by: ranchero42
Cliches...
Posted by: ravi on Aug 7, 2008 8:09 AM   
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Not to dampen the comment enthusiasm too much, but I am afraid the description of Maddow is a bit overboard. She is left of center, articulate, bold, etc, indeed. But she is well aware of the limits of discourse and the allegiances necessary to succeed in the mainstream.

I recommend this video on Crooks and Liars.

Maddow:


... you know what, the Soviet Union had a pretty stupid economic system. And that was a pretty fragile country and they were minting dissidents faster than they could jail them. And so they collapsed because Americans were...are... a beacon of hope to the world... because American values are more attractive to people when given the option...


I am not an apologist for the SU, but the above is as illogical, cliched and wrong-headed as they come. For one thing the "world" was/is not choosing between alternatives offered to it by the USA or its alter-ego.

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I too love Rachel. If only she would discuss the chronic stagnation of late capitalism.
Posted by: yellow on Aug 7, 2008 8:13 AM   
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I have always thought Rachel's show on Air America was great and quite informative. I hope she keeps up the good work!!

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Congratulations.....
Posted by: Spiritgirl on Aug 7, 2008 8:21 AM   
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I'm only sorry that I don't have cable. But it is refreshing to know that there is actually someone in the media that understands objectivity. As long as she equally holds all feet to the same fire, I'm all for it.

Her being a civics geek - I think that we need more civics geeks in this country, then maybe we wouldn't tolerate the BS that we're being fed on a daily basis!

While she may be "out", what does putting it in the article have to do with her credentials? Put bluntly, her sexual orientation - is none of my business!

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Deb
Posted by: debmcd on Aug 7, 2008 9:00 AM   
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Rachel is hands down my favorite woman on television. She adds a bit of humor that diffuses most of the male piglets on the shows on which she is a guest. She is proffessional and very smart and she knows what she's talking about. She actually does her research before she starts talking. She doesn't just get on camera to get on camera with nothing to say but the latest talking points or the latest insults. I never missed her when she sat in for Keith. Kudos to Rachel Maddow.

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TV vs Radio
Posted by: Fog on Aug 7, 2008 9:20 AM   
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It's interesting to note, while listening to Rachel's show as it's simulcast with MSNBC, that radio is much more dense with information.

Listening to TV on the radio exposes how much filler, noise, pauses, distractions, lead-ins to trivial moments and waste of air time TV really is.

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Is there someway we can run Keith and Rachel
Posted by: bettyn on Aug 7, 2008 9:55 AM   
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For President and VP?

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I have such a crush on you Rachel!
Posted by: fanny666 on Aug 7, 2008 12:29 PM   
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I know that you're a lesbian in a long-term relationship, but I feel like we could work through that.

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CAN WE GET KENT JONES BACK???
Posted by: BlueBerry PickN on Aug 7, 2008 12:50 PM   
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PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSEEEEE????


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I miss the WELSHMAN!!!

AAR sux.

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Cult of Personality
Posted by: ceraiteri on Aug 7, 2008 1:01 PM   
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Look into my eyes, what do you see?
Cult of personality
I know your anger, I know your dreams
I’ve been everything you want to be
I’m the cult of personality
Like mussolini and kennedy
I’m the cult of personality
Cult of personality
Cult of personality

Neon lights, a nobel prize
The mirror speaks, the reflection lies
You don’t have to follow me
Only you can set me free
I sell the things you need to be
I’m the smiling face on your t.v.
I’m the cult of personality
I exploit you still you love me

I tell you one and one makes three
I’m the cult of personality
Like joseph stalin and gandi
I’m the cult of personality
Cult of personality
Cult of personality

Neon lights a nobel prize
A leader speaks, that leader dies
You don’t have to follow me
Only you can set you free

You gave me fortune
You gave me fame
You me power in your god’s name
I’m every person you need to be
I’m the cult of personality
Look into my eyes, what do you see?
Cult of personality
I know your anger, I know your dreams
I’ve been everything you want to be
I’m the cult of personality
Like mussolini and kennedy
I’m the cult of personality
Cult of personality
Cult of personality

Neon lights, a nobel prize
The mirror speaks, the reflection lies
You don’t have to follow me
Only you can set me free
I sell the things you need to be
I’m the smiling face on your t.v.
I’m the cult of personality
I exploit you still you love me

I tell you one and one makes three
I’m the cult of personality
Like joseph stalin and gandi
I’m the cult of personality
Cult of personality
Cult of personality

Neon lights a nobel prize
A leader speaks, that leader dies
You don’t have to follow me
Only you can set you free

You gave me fortune
You gave me fame
You me power in your god’s name
I’m every person you need to be
I’m the cult of personality

(by Living Color)

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Big Fan
Posted by: RobNLA on Aug 7, 2008 1:04 PM   
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She's brilliant and funny. Rachel manages to expose the lies of the right with ease and humor. With the exception of Keith O., there aren't many in cable news that are willing or able to do it so well.

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I want to hang out with her!
Posted by: GloWill on Aug 7, 2008 3:58 PM   
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She radiates warmth, humor and intelligence! She's so down to earth and funny! I'd give anything to be able to meet her! If I were gay, I would totally have a crush on her! But, straight, married and have 4 kids. I just love her anyway!
-Gloria (Connecticut)

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stunned
Posted by: daniel w vermillion on Aug 7, 2008 3:59 PM   
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rachael is at her most charming when you see her cheeks redden with (not embarrassment) humility; like, am i really here now? i lurve her, i loave her, i luff her, i'm gay for her. i am an old white guy who is really sick of watching old white guys on tv. ok? i am really thrilled to see all this commentary about this new kid on the screen. all i really want to know from rache is, "what will your first book be about?"

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Lesbianism does what for whom? Makes them a star? Make me a sweater.
Posted by: Nightstallion on Aug 7, 2008 5:52 PM   
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Toooo Late! I'm already a sweater! I worked too long on my thugee reputation to stop being thuggish now! I am a post minimalist who has seen the error of minimalization. That is I see where the buttered side always turns toward the floor. The other shoe always drops and humans are no damn good, do not give a fuck and every stinking one of them is afraid to admit it to the point of being a blushing bride for missing the possible faux pas headed their way.

If you become distracted by a beautiful face, an obvious heartthrob to male or female . . . . BREAD KNIFE IN THE HEART!!! I personally do not want any more warmongering assholes in the highest office in the land. NO MORE PERSONALITIES BEFORE PRINCIPLES! I won't stand for it and neither should anyone else who is trying to be serious about ridding this country of its ticks fleas and other vermin masquerading as human beings.

It is outside our purview to dump these miscreants with witticisms and cheap parlor tricks. It is going to be a bumpy ride and may get mortally discorporate on the way. Like any real exorcism of demons does!

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I, too, think Maddow is great, a breath of fresh air...but...
Posted by: inspired1 on Aug 7, 2008 6:15 PM   
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It's HER, but not her.

What is so refreshing is that we get to see and hear a sensitive, thinking person.

What makes this so shocking, is that seeing someone like her is so far removed from our daily reality that it becomes NEWS itself, and we get caught up in the personal, and we all speculate on her future.

I'll bet we all know someone that we have conversations with, that we go to dinner or demonstrations with. Someone who's funny, sharp, incicive, well-informed and whom we'd love to see on the TV.

Or better yet two or three friends who have talked for years about the insanity going on around us, whose banter would make for lively viewing/listening. Kind of a "Car Talk' of progressive politics.

One of the most salient comments by Ralph Nader (a great man, notwithstanding whatever nonsense has filtered into too many brains) is that we, as a society, have allowed our expectations to go lower and lower, and we don't say or do anything about it.

Having an intelligent, articulate, progressive-thinking woman on the airwaves should not deserve this much column space, for it shouldn't be such an anomaly. Look how much ground and humanity we have lost!

Awash in a sea of five hundred channels, and countless hours of televised drivel, we get all excited about one or two people making sense onn our screens, rather than being upset and organized around the reasons why we have given a tiny unprincipled minority the "right" to determine what WE get to see.

What has happened to our expectations?

Where is the story about WHY such good people and their reflections on politics, society and life are so rare? Why have they been so excluded for so many years? Why not speculate on the future "career path" and successes of such a society?

"Focus on the individual," media owner-gatekeepers constantly transmit as they happily suck up our collective dollars. Have you heard any of our political leaders from mainstream parties ever regret the shallowness and narrowness of our media to the point they were willing to do something about it? Think real hard now....

In a sane society, Rachel would be the norm!

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Liam on the Left
Posted by: Liam on Aug 7, 2008 7:21 PM   
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She is smart as hell and just as funny. And she goes after anybody! Only Olbermann even comes close. The "left" media is lucky she is here. Hope we have years and years of Rachel Maddow ahead of us!

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I miss the boyish butchy Rachel
Posted by: Bouldercreeker on Aug 7, 2008 8:17 PM   
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and pray that her willingness to let them slather on the make up and be feminized doesn't speak to a willingness to be sanitized, homogenized, and ultimately de-radicalized.

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ba
Posted by: mnstra on Aug 7, 2008 9:14 PM   
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Aren't you all just sick and tired of this celebrity crap. You are so easily snowed.Grow up.
Put principles before personalities to really change this murderous economy>>>>>>>

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Off topic; sort of
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Aug 7, 2008 9:54 PM   
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"People feel the media is piling on Hillary Clinton," she said, "and they're coming to her defense with their votes."

If enough people believe that justice is a true human reaction,I see hope for democracy.

After most revolutionary wars, there is a period of violent mob rule. This is caused by the overpowering emotion of revenge against what the people considered to be unfair treatment. Many people are afraid of democracy because they equate it with mob rule.

I believe that the opposite is true. I believe that fairness is one of the first abstract concepts that children learn and that the peoples' sense of justice is strong enough to make democracy possible.

One of the fundamental features of our constitution is protection of individuals and minorities from the majority. This expression of justice was passed by the majority.

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Glib Flash & Not much Else
Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Aug 8, 2008 12:10 AM   
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Maddow is another smooth-talking media character that pretends at depth and delivers very little indeed.

A pleasant manner? Sure. That along with good teeth and a stage charisma.

She is to media what Obama is to politics. A skin-deep play actor that poses at being the real thing.

(no thanks)

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Get a real network
Posted by: overseas on Aug 8, 2008 3:05 AM   
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Rachel is great but I would respect her more if she worked for a real network that has a more (or even slightly) responsible track record on war and bush/cheney. But better she is there keeping them honest. I guess it is hard to find a respectible mass media network these days so she is doing the right thing in the best way she knows. Keep it up.

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Neeeeeva Miiiiiiiiiiind !!!
Posted by: QCao009 on Aug 8, 2008 12:34 PM   
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Actually, if you close your eyes for a minute, it's SNL's Gilda Radner you are thinking off.

Rachel fits a Jungian cosmic prototype, gay or not. Combination of folksy and sophisticated, irreverent and well prepared. It's life imitating art all over again.

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A fresh debut that is already getting old.
Posted by: rpenn on Aug 8, 2008 8:30 PM   
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She was so refreshing when she first started with MSNBC, especially when putting the horrid, loud Chris Matthews in his place. But now Rachael seems too focused on pushing her own agenda. When she has subbed for Olbermann she answers her own questions before the guest has a chance to comment. This locks her in as not listening and not particularly trying to enlighten the viewer with another person's view. Perhaps she is trying to be Olbermann, but he is way too astute, savvy and inquisitive to become caught up in such FOX-like punditry.

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RACHEL, A WONDERFUL NEW BRAND OF SMARTS
Posted by: orwellturns on Aug 9, 2008 1:00 PM   
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I really dislike people saying that she is better than Olbermann because he is the reason why she can do what she does, on TV anyway. It was Olbermann that had the original courage to call the Bush administration what it is. I'll never forget seeing his first commentary, it was like being taken out of the loony bin. THERE WAS SOMEONE OUT THERE THAT WAS GOING TO SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER BY MORONS, CROOKS AND LIARS!

Rachel is TERRRRRRIFIC, and it is great that she can be more impartial.
That speaks to her intellect and a just judgement.

GO, GO, GO!! ALL THE WAY RACHEL!!

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Manna for the starved
Posted by: Julian on Aug 9, 2008 7:17 PM   
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"Will Maddow's unlikely success, reliant on her ability to defy cliche, signal a move in punditry away from the thuggish and toward the sophisticated?"

This is also what demarks Obama from the others (little else does), and explains his explosive popularity among people who are tired of being talked down to by routinists. It's not that Maddow is just another Obama - she very clearly is a lot more than that. But the same magic works for both - addressing the world in something more than two-second sound bites is appreciated almost as manna from heaven. Even more when it's funny as well.

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