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Real Journalists Don't Make $5 Million a Year
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The past week was a good one if you were a courtier. We were instructed by the high priests on television over the past few days to mourn a Sunday morning talk show host, who made $5 million a year and who gave a platform to the powerful and the famous so they could spin, equivocate and lie to the nation. We were repeatedly told by these television courtiers, people like Tom Brokaw and Wolf Blitzer, that this talk show host was one of our nation's greatest journalists, as if sitting in a studio, putting on makeup and chatting with Dick Cheney or George W. Bush have much to do with journalism.
No journalist makes $5 million a year. No journalist has a comfortable, cozy relationship with the powerful. No journalist believes that acting as a conduit, or a stenographer, for the powerful is a primary part of his or her calling. Those in power fear and dislike real journalists. Ask Seymour Hersh and Amy Goodman how often Bush or Cheney has invited them to dinner at the White House or offered them an interview.
All governments lie, as I.F. Stone pointed out, and it is the job of the journalist to do the hard, tedious reporting to shine a light on these lies. It is the job of courtiers, those on television playing the role of journalists, to feed off the scraps tossed to them by the powerful and never question the system. In the slang of the profession, these television courtiers are "throats." These courtiers, including the late Tim Russert, never gave a voice to credible critics in the buildup to the war against Iraq. They were too busy playing their roles as red-blooded American patriots. They never fought back in their public forums against the steady erosion of our civil liberties and the trashing of our Constitution. These courtiers blindly accept the administration's current propaganda to justify an attack on Iran. They parrot this propaganda. They dare not defy the corporate state. The corporations that employ them make them famous and rich. It is their Faustian pact. No class of courtiers, from the eunuchs behind Manchus in the 19th century to the Baghdad caliphs of the Abbasid caliphate, has ever transformed itself into a responsible elite. Courtiers are hedonists of power.
Our Versailles was busy this past week. The Democrats passed the FISA bill, which provides immunity for the telecoms that cooperated with the National Security Agency's illegal surveillance over the past six years. This bill, which when signed means we will never know the extent of the Bush White House's violation of our civil liberties, is expected to be adopted by the Senate. Barack Obama has promised to sign it in the name of national security. The bill gives the U.S. government a license to eavesdrop on our phone calls and e-mails. It demolishes our right to privacy. It endangers the work of journalists, human rights workers, crusading lawyers and whistle-blowers who attempt to expose abuses the government seeks to hide. These private communications can be stored indefinitely and disseminated, not just to the U.S. government but to other governments as well. The bill, once signed into law, will make it possible for those in power to identify and silence anyone who dares to make public information that defies the official narrative.
Being a courtier, and Obama is one of the best, requires agility and eloquence. The most talented of them can be lauded as persuasive actors. They entertain us. They make us feel good. They convince us they are our friends. We would like to have dinner with them. They are the smiley faces of a corporate state that has hijacked the government and is raping the nation. When the corporations make their iron demands, these courtiers drop to their knees, whether to placate the telecommunications companies that fund their campaigns and want to be protected from lawsuits, or to permit oil and gas companies to rake in obscene profits and keep in place the vast subsidies of corporate welfare doled out by the state.
We cannot differentiate between illusion and reality. We trust courtiers wearing face powder who deceive us in the name of journalism. We trust courtiers in our political parties who promise to fight for our interests and then pass bill after bill to further corporate fraud and abuse. We confuse how we feel about courtiers like Obama and Russert with real information, facts and knowledge. We chant in unison with Obama that we want change, we yell "yes we can," and then stand dumbly by as he coldly votes away our civil liberties. The Democratic Party, including Obama, continues to fund the war. It refuses to impeach Bush and Cheney. It allows the government to spy on us without warrants or cause. And then it tells us it is our salvation. This is a form of collective domestic abuse. And, as so often happens in the weird pathology of victim and victimizer, we keep coming back for more.
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Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Jun 26, 2008 1:28 AM
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“These courtiers blindly accept the administration's current propaganda to justify an attack on Iran.”
No.
These MSM “courtiers” do nothing of the kind. They are the lowest lowlife rung of the ruling class and they know it. If they didn’t spread lies for their corporate monopoly paymasters, they would be nixed in a heartbeat for replacement.
And Obama willing to cheerfully fund endless sham genocide as he betrays the nation for a FISA spy state while the media continues to sell 9/11 “war on terror” of a thousand lies? Well, that’s just par for the course.
It’s all just that much more proof America is a Fascist state masquerading as “capitalist” so-called “democracy”.
“And, as so often happens in the weird pathology of victim and victimizer, we keep coming back for more.”
On this I would sadly agree.
And it's the reason our nation has grown to be so despised the world over. It’s not just about a murderous, psychopath Washington-media-“education” axis owned by Fascists. It is about most Americans that have lost their morality with their minds and spirits to a Fascist nightmare you would need to be dead asleep to buy into.
As the late George Carlin so often said, the “owners” have “got you by the balls”. Carlin well knew that America under tinhorn Fascism is no better than a Kool-Aid State (a Corporate Monopoly State, to be more precise.
So, roll over and take it, America.
You deserve it. At least until you decide you don’t.
“The minority, the ruling class at present, has the schools and press, usually the Church as well, under its thumb. This enables it to organize and sway the emotions of the masses, and make its tool of them.”
Doctor Albert Einstein (in a letter to Sigmund Freud 7/30/1932. 1879-1955)
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Posted by: Suzon on Jun 26, 2008 4:39 AM
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I have worked long and hard (unpaid) to detect the reality hidden behind the screen and I trust no courtiers. George Carlin was far from alone in his refusal to turn a blind eye to the facts. There are millions who don't buy into the myths. Remember that despite ridicule from the corporate media, Al Gore won the election in 2000.
Yes, there are dupes, charlatans and idiots among us, but we won't reclaim our rights as citizens with defeatism. If I were running Alternet, I'd send every article which makes the assumption that we are all to blame for what's wrong (guilt by association!) back to the author for a rewrite.
Remember Valley Forge. Did George Washington sustain the troops with glum thoughts? I don't think so.
Yes, things have been very difficult. The future is uncertain. But truth and the ideal of liberty and justice for all are tremendous sources of power and inspiration.
Advantage-seeking cowards and brutes have only spurious entitlement to cling to. Government based upon truth and justice is humanity's birthright--we can and will get it back!
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Posted by: Moonray on Jun 26, 2008 4:51 AM
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I also dislike the telecom bill and wish Obama hadn't voted for it, but I also realize that Obama is down in the political pit doing the actual fighting. He has to make decisions based on the political realities of the moment as he sees them. I trust him to do that in a way that's best for the nation in the long run, whether I like a particular piece of legislation or not. Hedges' tantrum on this issue doesn't help anything and weakens his credibility as a journalist -- a relatively low-paid, real journalist.
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Posted by: thebeerdoctor on Jun 26, 2008 5:28 AM
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Posted by: Jasonix on Jun 26, 2008 5:42 AM
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As a result, any journalist with talent flees the profession by the time they're 25. Public relations, advertising, and corporate communications are full of journalism refugees who got smart. That's why "seasoned journalists" are mostly sour old coots with little talent and merely average intelligence, in sharp contrast to the veterans of virtually any other discipline that requires a college education.
The exception is the top newspapers like the New York Times or Chicago Tribune. There, the children of the elite (often, though, the least talented ones who lacked their parents' balls for business) step right from Boston University, Wellesley College, Stanford U., or wherever straight into jobs at the nation's top papers. Someone from a working-class family can spend 25 years working their way up through the ranks, and if they manage to finally make it to a paper like that, it'll be as a freelancer who gets sent to dangerous places like Iraq.
Any college student would be a fool to go into journalism.
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Posted by: Midwesterners on Jun 26, 2008 7:46 AM
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So while I totally agree that the MSM is full of nothing but "prostitutes" at almost every level--with the FEW AND VERY NOTABLE EXCEPTIONS of Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow or Bill Moyers--
I think it would be a crime against humanity to sit this presidential election out and bemoan the fact that Obama is just one more "courtier" and not everything we want him to be at this moment in time.
As far as I am concerned, the act of "not voting" in November 2008 is JUST as morally reprehensible as the act of "voting Republican." Certainly, the world, the planet and the globe--and not just "we" folks in America--cannot afford to have yet another Republican Administration!
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Posted by: Prairie Waif on Jun 26, 2008 8:07 AM
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I saw him speak to a CANADIAN CROWD, he had he timerity to ask CANADIANS if we knew that there had been a genocide in Rwanda.
The 80's old doll, all done up with red lipstick and in her fur, turned to me and said, "How stupid does he think we ARE?! That was our guy, Romeo D'allaire being left to fend for our troops. IDIOT!!
I could have agreed with my lovely compatriot more.
Wolf Blitzer, a journalist?! I hope I stop laughing long enough to get the breakfast dishes done without breaking any.
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Posted by: Vic Fedorov on Jun 26, 2008 9:09 AM
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and insofar as the media doesn't demand that the economy, which most compells the many discussing together, be discussed in local free assemblies,
And that the media does not know the tenth amendment's reservation of powers for the state or the people, in free assembly, has been unconstitutionally usurped for local elected officials, or that the media even know the form of free assembly is for decision-making by many citizens.
Or that the media does not question the falseness of dominance in some sports by a certain races.
Or that the media doesn't even inquire into what christian terminology such as the kingdom of god even means,
Or that they accept a burned out judiciary that honors the few reasoning and not a form for the many discussing,
I move that all journalists are bad,
And that this totalitarian limitation of information is a trait associated with communism more than fascism.
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Posted by: Midwesterners on Jun 26, 2008 10:27 AM
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I have maintained for years (since even before 2000) that Hitler or the former USSR could only have dreamed of having a propaganda machine work as smoothly as our MSM! Rove is Joseph Goebbels--and like his predecessor Goebbels, Rove doesn't even need to prod the MSM anymore: The Corporate MSM automatically does what Rove wants it to do now anyway!! And the MSM is the Soviet Politboro of today--unconsciously goose stepping to the Republican/Corporate demands! (Of course, as I said above here, there ARE some major exceptions to this "rule"--such as Olbermann, Maddow or Moyers, who certainly are NOT corporate puppets!)
BUT STILL, as I ALSO said above, it would be an enormous mistake--of cataclysmic proportions--to stay home and not vote for Obama. Obama may not be everything we want, but he is better than the alternative of four more years of Republican Reign! And hopefully, we have learned from history how heinous and horrific the "Republican Alternative" is!!!
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Posted by: walterik on Jun 27, 2008 12:58 PM
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I would be inclined to believe that it will be years and years before an orderly return to financial stability and a decent living for the working class will be happening. Can't you see the handwriting on the wall?
W.
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Posted by: janelynne on Jun 27, 2008 7:07 PM
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I don't know who will be able to clean up the corruption of the main stream media. There is simply no watchdog left to do the job. The fox, pardon the pun, is watching the hen house. We need a new media. We need change. And we need an informed public who attaches itself on the internet, dawn to dusk.
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Posted by: sfjack on Jun 27, 2008 9:44 PM
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Sorry, but I do believe in Obama much more than McCain, of course. The one I really believe is Kucinich, and we all know what happened to him for telling the truth. Scary as hell, is it not?
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Posted by: rgoalierob on Jun 29, 2008 6:45 AM
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If we had REAL journalism, our "democracy" would have been dissolved by a revolution. Instead, we sat on our asses and watched Bush/Cheney performed a coup of their own.
We'll see when we're ready to see.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Jun 30, 2008 5:00 PM
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As it turns out, the Sage for Our Age, indeed, the Sage For the Ages, was one Phinias T. Barnum, when he said: "There's a sucker born every minute."
You bet we're being played -- and with technology, there is sooo much more with which to do the playing. The Romans gave the people bread and spectacle, but what we're getting, at least the middle class, is bullsh*t and reality television. The "bread" is rapidly disappearing.
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Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Jun 26, 2008 1:28 AM
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“These courtiers blindly accept the administration's current propaganda to justify an attack on Iran.”
No.
These MSM “courtiers” do nothing of the kind. They are the lowest lowlife rung of the ruling class and they know it. If they didn’t spread lies for their corporate monopoly paymasters, they would be nixed in a heartbeat for replacement.
And Obama willing to cheerfully fund endless sham genocide as he betrays the nation for a FISA spy state while the media continues to sell 9/11 “war on terror” of a thousand lies? Well, that’s just par for the course.
It’s all just that much more proof America is a Fascist state masquerading as “capitalist” so-called “democracy”.
“And, as so often happens in the weird pathology of victim and victimizer, we keep coming back for more.”
On this I would sadly agree.
And it's the reason our nation has grown to be so despised the world over. It’s not just about a murderous, psychopath Washington-media-“education” axis owned by Fascists. It is about most Americans that have lost their morality with their minds and spirits to a Fascist nightmare you would need to be dead asleep to buy into.
As the late George Carlin so often said, the “owners” have “got you by the balls”. Carlin well knew that America under tinhorn Fascism is no better than a Kool-Aid State (a Corporate Monopoly State, to be more precise.
So, roll over and take it, America.
You deserve it. At least until you decide you don’t.
“The minority, the ruling class at present, has the schools and press, usually the Church as well, under its thumb. This enables it to organize and sway the emotions of the masses, and make its tool of them.”
Doctor Albert Einstein (in a letter to Sigmund Freud 7/30/1932. 1879-1955)
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Posted by: Suzon on Jun 26, 2008 4:39 AM
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I have worked long and hard (unpaid) to detect the reality hidden behind the screen and I trust no courtiers. George Carlin was far from alone in his refusal to turn a blind eye to the facts. There are millions who don't buy into the myths. Remember that despite ridicule from the corporate media, Al Gore won the election in 2000.
Yes, there are dupes, charlatans and idiots among us, but we won't reclaim our rights as citizens with defeatism. If I were running Alternet, I'd send every article which makes the assumption that we are all to blame for what's wrong (guilt by association!) back to the author for a rewrite.
Remember Valley Forge. Did George Washington sustain the troops with glum thoughts? I don't think so.
Yes, things have been very difficult. The future is uncertain. But truth and the ideal of liberty and justice for all are tremendous sources of power and inspiration.
Advantage-seeking cowards and brutes have only spurious entitlement to cling to. Government based upon truth and justice is humanity's birthright--we can and will get it back!
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Posted by: Moonray on Jun 26, 2008 4:51 AM
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I also dislike the telecom bill and wish Obama hadn't voted for it, but I also realize that Obama is down in the political pit doing the actual fighting. He has to make decisions based on the political realities of the moment as he sees them. I trust him to do that in a way that's best for the nation in the long run, whether I like a particular piece of legislation or not. Hedges' tantrum on this issue doesn't help anything and weakens his credibility as a journalist -- a relatively low-paid, real journalist.
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Posted by: thebeerdoctor on Jun 26, 2008 5:28 AM
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Posted by: Jasonix on Jun 26, 2008 5:42 AM
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As a result, any journalist with talent flees the profession by the time they're 25. Public relations, advertising, and corporate communications are full of journalism refugees who got smart. That's why "seasoned journalists" are mostly sour old coots with little talent and merely average intelligence, in sharp contrast to the veterans of virtually any other discipline that requires a college education.
The exception is the top newspapers like the New York Times or Chicago Tribune. There, the children of the elite (often, though, the least talented ones who lacked their parents' balls for business) step right from Boston University, Wellesley College, Stanford U., or wherever straight into jobs at the nation's top papers. Someone from a working-class family can spend 25 years working their way up through the ranks, and if they manage to finally make it to a paper like that, it'll be as a freelancer who gets sent to dangerous places like Iraq.
Any college student would be a fool to go into journalism.
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Posted by: Midwesterners on Jun 26, 2008 7:46 AM
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So while I totally agree that the MSM is full of nothing but "prostitutes" at almost every level--with the FEW AND VERY NOTABLE EXCEPTIONS of Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow or Bill Moyers--
I think it would be a crime against humanity to sit this presidential election out and bemoan the fact that Obama is just one more "courtier" and not everything we want him to be at this moment in time.
As far as I am concerned, the act of "not voting" in November 2008 is JUST as morally reprehensible as the act of "voting Republican." Certainly, the world, the planet and the globe--and not just "we" folks in America--cannot afford to have yet another Republican Administration!
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Posted by: Prairie Waif on Jun 26, 2008 8:07 AM
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I saw him speak to a CANADIAN CROWD, he had he timerity to ask CANADIANS if we knew that there had been a genocide in Rwanda.
The 80's old doll, all done up with red lipstick and in her fur, turned to me and said, "How stupid does he think we ARE?! That was our guy, Romeo D'allaire being left to fend for our troops. IDIOT!!
I could have agreed with my lovely compatriot more.
Wolf Blitzer, a journalist?! I hope I stop laughing long enough to get the breakfast dishes done without breaking any.
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Posted by: Vic Fedorov on Jun 26, 2008 9:09 AM
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and insofar as the media doesn't demand that the economy, which most compells the many discussing together, be discussed in local free assemblies,
And that the media does not know the tenth amendment's reservation of powers for the state or the people, in free assembly, has been unconstitutionally usurped for local elected officials, or that the media even know the form of free assembly is for decision-making by many citizens.
Or that the media does not question the falseness of dominance in some sports by a certain races.
Or that the media doesn't even inquire into what christian terminology such as the kingdom of god even means,
Or that they accept a burned out judiciary that honors the few reasoning and not a form for the many discussing,
I move that all journalists are bad,
And that this totalitarian limitation of information is a trait associated with communism more than fascism.
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» Yes!!! Rove and The MSM are like Hitler's Goebbels & the former Soviet Politboro
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Posted by: Midwesterners on Jun 26, 2008 10:27 AM
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I have maintained for years (since even before 2000) that Hitler or the former USSR could only have dreamed of having a propaganda machine work as smoothly as our MSM! Rove is Joseph Goebbels--and like his predecessor Goebbels, Rove doesn't even need to prod the MSM anymore: The Corporate MSM automatically does what Rove wants it to do now anyway!! And the MSM is the Soviet Politboro of today--unconsciously goose stepping to the Republican/Corporate demands! (Of course, as I said above here, there ARE some major exceptions to this "rule"--such as Olbermann, Maddow or Moyers, who certainly are NOT corporate puppets!)
BUT STILL, as I ALSO said above, it would be an enormous mistake--of cataclysmic proportions--to stay home and not vote for Obama. Obama may not be everything we want, but he is better than the alternative of four more years of Republican Reign! And hopefully, we have learned from history how heinous and horrific the "Republican Alternative" is!!!
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Posted by: walterik on Jun 27, 2008 12:58 PM
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I would be inclined to believe that it will be years and years before an orderly return to financial stability and a decent living for the working class will be happening. Can't you see the handwriting on the wall?
W.
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Posted by: pacto on Jun 27, 2008 4:31 PM
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Posted by: janelynne on Jun 27, 2008 7:07 PM
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I don't know who will be able to clean up the corruption of the main stream media. There is simply no watchdog left to do the job. The fox, pardon the pun, is watching the hen house. We need a new media. We need change. And we need an informed public who attaches itself on the internet, dawn to dusk.
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» You hit the nail on the head!
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Posted by: sfjack on Jun 27, 2008 9:44 PM
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Sorry, but I do believe in Obama much more than McCain, of course. The one I really believe is Kucinich, and we all know what happened to him for telling the truth. Scary as hell, is it not?
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Posted by: whealeydj on Jun 28, 2008 7:22 AM
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Posted by: rgoalierob on Jun 29, 2008 6:45 AM
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If we had REAL journalism, our "democracy" would have been dissolved by a revolution. Instead, we sat on our asses and watched Bush/Cheney performed a coup of their own.
We'll see when we're ready to see.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on Jun 30, 2008 5:00 PM
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As it turns out, the Sage for Our Age, indeed, the Sage For the Ages, was one Phinias T. Barnum, when he said: "There's a sucker born every minute."
You bet we're being played -- and with technology, there is sooo much more with which to do the playing. The Romans gave the people bread and spectacle, but what we're getting, at least the middle class, is bullsh*t and reality television. The "bread" is rapidly disappearing.
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