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Talk Radio's Last Stand?
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The email alert read "Breaking from Newsmax.com," the conservative online news site that also publishes Newsmax Magazine. One item in particular caught my attention -- "Special: Will President Obama Ban O'Reilly, Rush?"
One click, however, reveals this "breaking" news is simply old wine poured into a "special" new anti-Obama bottle: a ridiculous recycled report titled "Talk Radio's Last Stand," offered with a subscription to Newsmax magazine and a "Dynamo Emergency World Band Radio" -- all for just $35!
Leading hard-right conservatives, led by their talk radio "shock jock" troops, have been worrying aloud about the supposed return of the long-defunct Fairness Doctrine ever since their stunning success last year in defeating bipartisan immigration reform. The latest salvo is the Newsmax report, headlined "Battle for Talk Radio: Powerful Foes Want to End the Gabfest," which cleverly combines the usual talk radio tropes of pugnacity and victimization. The text of the "special offer" supplies the details:
"The 2008 election has yet to be decided, but one thing is clear: If the Democrats win the White House, expect an all-out attack on talk radio. Political talk, as we know it, could end. If they win, Rush, Imus, Savage, Beck, and dozens of other major hosts will be muzzled by using federal regulations to control political talk. So, what's their plan of attack?"
As Newsmax sees it, "leading liberals in Congress, the Democratic presidential candidates, and even some Republicans speak openly of their plans to end conservative talk radio using federal regulations. Their weapon: a revived Fairness Doctrine, which would once again require stations to air divergent points of view -- a clever ruse that makes station owners leery of airing controversial talk-radio hosts, fearing lawsuits and federal sanctions. With a new Fairness Doctrine, you could see many top conservative radio hosts canned."
As further evidence, Newsmax offers "an exclusive interview with Fox News host Bill O'Reilly," assuring us there is "no question" a plan is being hatched. "The far-left kooks will try, but they will fail," O'Reilly says.
Well, the far-right kooks like O'Reilly are certainly succeeding once again in ginning up outrage and false controversy -- while simultaneously pushing up their ratings. As detailed in my new book, "Shock Jocks: Hate Speech and Talk Radio," this putative threat to the First Amendment simply isn't real -- nor is the far-right's existential fear that conservative talk radio will somehow be wiped from the media landscape.
What is real is that the Reagan-era demise of the doctrine was in fact "the decision that launched a thousand lips," as Los Angeles Times reporter Jim Puzzanghera once phrased it. "The move is widely credited with triggering the explosive growth of political talk radio." But when a handful of politicians mused about its reinstatement "after conservative talk show hosts such as Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Michael Savage helped torpedo a major immigration bill," Puzzanghera noted, the result was an "armada of opposition on the airwaves, Internet blogs and in Washington, where broadcasters have joined with Republicans to fight what they call an attempt to zip their lips."
Most progressives are of course suspicious of the right's newfound "issue," and many, like radio talk show host Ed Schultz, rightly characterize talk of a reinstated Fairness Doctrine as a "straw man" invented by conservatives. "They have 450 right-wing talkers in America," Schultz says. "They all read off the same talking points."
As the trade journal Broadcasting and Cable noted, the Fairness Doctrine had "long been the province of communications-law texts and history books." The original doctrine required broadcasters -- who must obtain a license to use the publicly owned airwaves -- to present issues of public importance in a balanced manner. Since the doctrine was an attempt to ensure that coverage of controversial issues by broadcasters be balanced and fair, and since it hadn't been enforced in two decades, the sudden and fervent talk show opposition to it seemed odd at first blush. After all, don't conservatives regularly claim an interest in being "fair and balanced"?
Nevertheless, merely the perceived possibility of bringing back the Fairness Doctrine has led many conservative commentators to paint that possibility in near-apocalyptic terms. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, for example, called it "an assault on the First Amendment" and accused Democrats of wanting to wipe out conservative talk radio. "They want to kill it because every time we have an extended conversation with the American people, liberalism falls apart and its ideas collapse," Gingrich explained. Limbaugh, America's No. 1 radio talker, went so far as to suggest that, instead of imposing a "Fairness Doctrine," perhaps a "Truth Doctrine" should be imposed to control all news outlets other than talk radio.
Other conservative voices, such as Joseph Farah of WorldNetDaily.com, followed Limbaugh's lead and began warning explicitly of an impending "war on talk radio." In an article in the August 2007 issue of WND's Whistleblower magazine, Farah wrote, "Though most Americans aren't yet aware of it, talk radio -- from Rush Limbaugh to the local talker in small-town America -- is under major attack." Farah drew a direct link between talk radio's success in mobilizing opinion against the immigration bill and what he and other conservatives saw as a frontal assault on their main medium of expression. "And no wonder: Last month radio talkers presided over a minor American revolution when they urged millions of citizens to successfully oppose the immigration/amnesty bill that the president and both political parties had been pushing relentlessly," Farah wrote. "It went down in flames -- a devastating blow to the political establishment."
"Now it's revenge time," Farah concluded, articulating the conventional conservative wisdom. "If radio talkers, in conjunction with the Internet, can mobilize Americans to oppose the political elite with regard to immigration, what kind of effect might they have on voters during the critically important November 2008 presidential election just around the corner? The fact is, powerful forces in and out of politics feel extremely threatened by this one part of the mass media that overwhelmingly champions traditional American values. They want talk radio crippled before it does any more 'damage.'"
Now that Barack Obama is set to be the Democratic nominee, conservatives are trying to pin the allegedly impending "assault" on talk radio directly on him. But even a cursory look at the elements of the Newsmax "special report" demonstrates that this supposedly current "controversy" is comprised mostly of leftovers such as "the Don Imus controversy" and is focused more on Hillary Clinton ("Laura Ingraham's dire forecast about a Hillary Clinton presidency") than Barack Obama:
- Why the Don Imus controversy was the first skirmish in a bigger war
- Hillary Clinton's secret role in getting Imus fired
- Why Imus calls Hillary "Satan" and vows revenge
- Talker Glenn Beck's chilling prediction for freedom of speech
- Why liberals can't win ratings in radio -- but conservatives do
- Naming names: powerful Democrats who favor the Fairness Doctrine
- Media Matters' "blacklist" of conservative talkers
- National Public Radio's tilt to the left
- Talk radio and the "new McCarthyism"
- GOP Rep. Mike Pence's campaign to stop the Fairness Doctrine
- Clear Channel's strategic moves to "appease" Democrats
- The supposed adversary that saved Air America
- The lawsuit that threatens political talk radio
- How Democrats can re-impose the Doctrine -- without congressional action
Not surprisingly, this concerted conservative focus on the possible return of the Fairness Doctrine seems more devoted to stirring up the base than combating any real danger. Most informed political observers believe there is scant possibility that the fusty doctrine will ever be re-imposed -- and even less chance that if it were, talk radio would be "eliminated." But to conservatives such as Limbaugh, Farah and the Newsmax team, the battle for talk radio is actually existential, about everything, or at least everything that matters: "America is short on leadership right now," Farah says. "Radio talk show hosts, who every day belt out the truth that no one else in the broadcast world dares to speak, are the closest thing today's Americans have to real leadership. Eliminate talk radio, and America goes down the tubes."
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Posted by: Crazy H on Jun 11, 2008 3:39 PM
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There's a reason that Limpbone refuses invitations for one-on-one debates. It's the same reason that he's got a mute button for the callers. It's the same reason that o'Liely blows up at his guests.
And it's the same reason they're so deathly afraid of someone being able to respond to their BS on "their" medium.
That reason goes under the name of "Fact" and it scares them silly. (silly-er?)
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» RE:Congratulations! I've never really seen someone use a derogatory term for his point of view!
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» Life is not Fair
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» You'd be getting cheaper gas at the pumps if it weren't for rightwing bullshit radio.
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» What a drama queen
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» RE: kevetch, kevetch, kevetch!
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» RE: If so-called "progressives"; the right doesn't own the airwaves. Stand on a street corner. . .
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Posted by: UnEasyOne on Jun 12, 2008 4:08 AM
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When a minority effectively control 100% of the publicly owned airwaves, free speech is a dead letter.
Either free speech IS important and it is vital that the viewpoint of the majority be represented as well as the loudmouth minority with billionaire sponsors, or it is not - and they have no bitch if I kick em off the air.
The spinners of the "wingnut radio = free speech" lie have a basic argument - go buy your own radio station. Fine. Keep your f**kin radio station - just don't use MY airwaves to exclusively broadcast your propaganda!
When I have the license and you don't, let's see just how hard it is for me to borrow the money to start my own. Probably won't be much - yours will be on the market for cheap.
In other words, the value of these stations is not the equipment but the license! The license is for use of the airwaves - OWNED BY ME!
I am sick of demagogues like Savage inciting violence and hatred against progressives! I am tired of being lied about by the junkie Limbaugh. I am tired of being unable to find even centrist, middle-of-the-road dialog on MY airwaves.
When it has been monopolized by billionaires, "free" is an oxymoron.
Adherents of this status quo know their arguments can't stand up to scrutiny - lies are like roaches scrambling for the dark when the light is turned on. They will piss and moan that I am trying to take their free speech. F em! If they valued free speech, this conversation would be unnecessary.
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» RE: Give em one year to clean up their act. Then yank their licences.
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» RE: Ask millions of dead Tsutsis and Jews how "IGNORE THEM" worked when the haters took over THEIR
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» RE: Ask millions of dead Tsutsis and Jews how "IGNORE THEM" worked when the haters took over THEIR
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» RE: Give em one year to clean up their act. Then yank their licences.
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Posted by: deb.dellapiana on Jun 12, 2008 4:14 AM
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They don't have to go away. Let's simply balance it out with some Progressive Talk Radio so that we can have a fair fight over the airwaves. That's what freedom of speech is all about, children.
Clowns on parade. Every single one of them.
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Posted by: Biflspud on Jun 12, 2008 4:38 AM
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It's being sold as a first amendment issue to throw red meat to the libertarian base, but by far and large, it's coded to political figures: "We have a strong hand, and you'd better dance to our little tune."
Bravo, honestly -- it's well played. Transparent, but well played.
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Posted by: halweiner on Jun 12, 2008 4:52 AM
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They will migrate to the World Wide Web. You can't control or abolish that any more than you can put the genie back in the bottle.
Get over it. The " fairness doctrine " may not be totally fair but it is a lot better than what we now have and " enjoy "..... unfettered motormouth b.s. and slander.
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Posted by: ericthefool on Jun 12, 2008 5:33 AM
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I also get very angry because these people have so much power, so much freedom, and so much good they COULD do. They reach millions but only mislead them. They could really change things for the better, but decide to be on the side of $$$$ and self interest.
There is a trend going on in right wing radio right now. There is some dissent. Glen Beck was knocking both candidates yesterday and was even talking about forefathers and rolling back the constitution. O'Reilly is on a don't attack Iran tirade, O'Reilly and Hannity are acting sympathetic to the gas prices, but this is of course to drill in Anwar.
I don't think you can out right ban them, that would be very anti-American. I think we lay some rules down, and monitor some truthiness. Truth needs to come out. These people could change the World, if only they would tell the truth. Tell the truth, you can stay.
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Posted by: PakiBoy on Jun 12, 2008 6:07 AM
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Right-wing pundits have done a great job in making the so-called 'free-market' economic model palatable to middle-class workers, even though such an economic model is against the interest of the middle-class.
Right-wing pundits have done a great job in dismantling the civil liberty protections of the US justice system by pushing for a Unitary Executive to engage in domestic spying, Patriot Act, etc.
And best, Right-wing pundits have done a great job in making education (real education), critical thinking as enemy of the ordinary citizen. So in the 21st century, you have 'Creationism' being taught in America.
Professors are being harassed and smeared by well-funded groups like Campus-Watch.
This culture of anti-intellectualism that is being pushed by the Right-wing media, is the main reason why the Evil Empire is crumbling from within.
So, America, please, don't invoke the 'Fairness Doctrine'. It ain't fair to the rest of the world.
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Posted by: KeepsonTickn on Jun 12, 2008 6:35 AM
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Media conglomerates like Clearchannel are ignoring this huge untapped market, even while their stock prices are tanking.
I live in St. Louis. If I could listen to four radio stations at a time, I could hear hundreds of hours a week of right-wing radio, broadcast all over the metropolitan area. For a while last year, there was one small, low wattage station carrying one progressive program, Randi Rhodes, in a lineup that was otherwise solidly hate radio. To advertise her show, they played a clip of one of the most horrible statements Randi ever made, something about George W. Bush coming from his mother's "fetid womb." This clip was guaranteed to offend the majority of this Midwest audience. Heck, it offended me. The morning talk show DJs openly ranted about wanting Randi pulled off the air. Finally, (Before her infamous Hillary comments) Randi's program was replaced with a sports show.
The whole Randi Rhodes affair was obviously meant to say "Well, we tried, but progressive talk just doesn't make it on the radio."
It has been shown that a single progressive show on a conservative station will fail, because the right-wing audience will boycott their advertisers. Randi Rhodes was also an obvious mismatch to this market, particularly the subgroup that would enjoy hosts like Neil Boortz.
What I would like to see are more progressive stations. As I understand it, they are very succesful in markets where they actually exist. Media conglomerates are willing to give up market share to keep progressive talk off the airwaves, preferring to compete against themselves for the right-wing fringe.
Conservative radio personalities are always talking up market forces, yet they are quite happy to be esconced in a bubble where fifty percent of the market is excluded by owners who are more interested pushing an agenda than in either meeting the interests of the public or maximizing profits. We need to break up the cartels.
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» RE: Break up the media cartels.
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Posted by: Glitterik on Jun 12, 2008 6:43 AM
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jun 12, 2008 6:46 AM
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Plenty of other countries do it, so if we were really serious about "fairness", we'd scrap that silly old Constitution and just let the government tell us what for.
On penalty of fine, imprisonment, mayhap death.
We need folks to get serious about trampling folk's rights. GWB is only going to be able to do it for us for another few months.
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» Can you cite the appropriate law? Or are you imagining it?
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» To restate the obvious, there isn't anything prohibiting clear(lydum)channel...
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» RE: Fascist Clear Channel already bans progressive speech - and the Dixie Chicks
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» Furthermore, your assertion that we need left-wing asshats to "fairly balance"...
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Posted by: alturn on Jun 12, 2008 6:50 AM
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It would be better to reserve a larger portion of the airwaves for local communnity (NOT NPR) non profit radio. Then legislate rules for this portion to be open to the widest wide spectrum of views and programming.
The creativity explosion would likely spark a renaissance greater than the Reagan fairness doctrine revolution. Imagine, people being on the air doing what they love, not doing what they are told.
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Posted by: ozonehole on Jun 12, 2008 7:03 AM
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It needs to be repealed. We need our anti-trust laws back. Clear Channel by buying out all competition. Four news groups own the entire newspaper business. Our right-wing media is as effective as Pravda once was.
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Posted by: Illiteratilumen on Jun 12, 2008 7:11 AM
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Bills like the Fairness Doctrine are as un-American as they get. Why should the government tell people what they should be listening to? If people wanted to hear left-wing radio shows Air America would be a thriving business with syndication across the country. It is not because there was not widespread demand for the services of that business. People want to listen to Rush and Sean Hannity for whatever reason they want to listen to them. I don't understand it but I don't understand why people watch shows like Who Wants to have Sex with Flava Flav either.
Compete or go home. Don't try and legislate what stations can and can't play.
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» RE: How pitious would be your moans if the left dominated this media like the right does now!
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» I wouldn't have a problem with that
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Posted by: maxpayne on Jun 12, 2008 7:28 AM
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Posted by: steven w on Jun 12, 2008 7:54 AM
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Posted by: JibreelRiley on Jun 12, 2008 8:28 AM
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Plus Rush, Hannity, Levin and friends are good at what they do.
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Posted by: Drclaw on Jun 12, 2008 10:17 AM
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However, this should not be construed as allowing these idiots to say whatever they please. There is enough racist, sexist, and violent rhetoric out there from some of these guys to take them down now, and this should be used whenever possible to bring some sanity back to policitcal discourse.
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Posted by: dbatterman on Jun 12, 2008 10:36 AM
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I think there are many reasons why conservative talk radio does better than progressive talkers. They did forge the format itself first, and their most devoted listeners would rather be told what to think than think for themselves. Also, if I want an intelligent, cogent examination of news, I'll turn to NPR. If you want a bunch of easily digestible talking points, you turn to talk radio.
Even my hardcore conservative friends know that the likes of Limbaugh and Hannity are completely full of it. I think their audiences are probably 1/3 people who just think they're entertaining personalities, 1/3 people who disagree with them and listen because they want to "know thine enemy" and the other 1/3 just want to feel like they know something by repeating what "that there man on the radio jes said."
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Posted by: Wacre on Jun 12, 2008 10:37 AM
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This effort would be coupled with bringing the FCC in line as well, ensuring that corporations cannot come in and gobble up all the local media of any particular area.
Let's hit the Bill O' Reilly's and Sean Hannity's of the world where it hurts: In their wallets. And I understand that any fines would probably be paid for by the network, but amass enough of them and I guarantee that the hammer (and I don't mean Delay) will be brought down hard on such behaviour.
Because, let's be honest here. They may be rich, but they aren't rich enough that a few stiff fines couldn't sway them toward moderation.
And yes, it would be government interfering the the private sector. Sofw. The private sector seems to have an aversion toward any type of regulation, but once they bankrupt themselves, guess who's hand is dipping in the public trough?
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Posted by: reelectnoone on Jun 12, 2008 11:12 AM
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That would be one way to shut Limbaugh up...force him to tell only the truth.
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Posted by: robbie.seal on Jun 12, 2008 12:14 PM
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Many on this site have nothing but contempt for the government. They believe that it is controlled by big business, Extremist Christian Wackos and Right Wing Nazis. If that is the case, how can you trust that same government to decide what you will or will not listen to?
I personally have a problem with folks trying to tell me what I can or cant listen to, watch, read or say. I personally think its dangerous to give a small group of unelected officials that much power over me. If I don't like what someone says, I don't watch them, or don't listen to them or don't buy their books. What you consider fair today, may not be so fair tomorrow.
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Posted by: olita on Jun 12, 2008 2:40 PM
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I don't agree, as many here seem to think, that the reason that there isn't more left talk radio is because it isn't profitable or that there is a market for it.
I also think it's misguided to hold up Air America as proof that left/progressive radio doesn't work. It isn't that simple. There is a virtual monopoly on our air-waves, for starters...
..And to those who can't see how right wing talk has hurt our democracy, I say this: Democracy depends on a well informed citizenry. Rush, Sean etc. mostly do nothing more than spew the GOP talking point of the day, or their own hair-brained-logic-twisted P.O.V. There is a reason (besides Fox/Cable News)that a large percentage actually thought Saddam Hussein had WMD and was responsible for 9/11. DO you seriously think we would be in this war if the American people were actually informed with the truth?
Lastly, and I know I'm mixing issues here, I pose this amusing little thought exercise: If simply NOT listening to right-wing radio is an adequate remedy for those who despise it, why can't those who despise abortion simply NOT have one and allow THAT to be an adequate remedy as well? I mean, hundreds of thousands needlessly killed in Iraq because the public was lied to about the reasons for war is just as tragic of all those little babies who never got born because of an abortion, right?
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Posted by: Angel Of Mercy on Jun 12, 2008 2:40 PM
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They have no remaining credibility, no top-flight candidates, not much money and the Democrats are out-polling them on EVERY major issue this election cycle. Even hardcore rightwing ideologues are echoing the opinion that they're going to get their collective clock cleaned in November. The only thing that's left to them at this point is their tremendous media advantage. This article in the National Review Online hints that one might be going galley-west as well.
I would, of course, trust it more if it had appeared somewhere else...but that doesn't mean we cannot verify its allegations for ourselves. I hardly believe that the administration-friendly FCC would plot such a coup...but there are any number of sly, motivated Progressives who might conceive and execute this glorious game-changing maneuver.
If this is true--if even any significant PART of it is true!--the unclean Republicans could well be marginalized and reduced to the stature of a regional party for the rest of this century!
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Posted by: willymack on Jun 12, 2008 4:14 PM
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Posted by: Ydotheyhateus on Jun 12, 2008 7:17 PM
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— U.S. Supreme Court, upholding the constitutionality of the Fairness Doctrine in Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. FCC, 1969.
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Posted by: Bbear41 on Jun 13, 2008 2:53 PM
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Posted by: Bbear41 on Jun 13, 2008 2:53 PM
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Posted by: joze46 on Jun 13, 2008 2:53 PM
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For the past two decades one has to be a stooge not to understand the realities of what is happening on Hate Radio and in our broadband television cable spectrum. Limbaugh, along with IMUS deliberately made an argument from absurdity, ignorance, especially pleading or ridiculing with repugnance always misleading and with snobbery telling America they are the authority in cultural value in advanced in the studies of conservatism or independence.
Yes indeed, the greatest piece of propagandizing messaging that offers not what America needs to know but what they those with big money want you to know. These are sick people and America will only change when the public domain electromagnetic spectrum is taken from them.
If Obama delivers on that promise for change he will get my vote because I too am sick of the media and way they operate. America we would never be in this situation of uncertainty and despair if the media did its job. Please America we are the government and they are licensed to the public to serve and provide oversight. As in any licensed business they too like any official in government “MUST” support the laws and regulations in the Constitution as a government licensed Institution. Such as accept different oppinions "real live" not notes or read emails or opposite views by unknown people from real people not mystery voices that appear through a speaker on you car radio that you do not know which Limbaugh and other do, however alway seem to suggest they offer the truth. The current media with bias and greed have used and abused just about all the privileges. America we now witness torture as a debate and endure speech treachery forming a horrible cultural divide that does not have to be.
Change we can believe in is not good enough. Simply put, "Change We Must", or America will continue on a tail spin of dispair and division.
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Posted by: john mont on Jun 13, 2008 4:22 PM
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Posted by: mainspark on Jun 13, 2008 4:36 PM
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It's a matter of sour grapes, in advance. They can see that John McCain won't be elected. They can see that their numbers in the House of Representatives and the Senate will be diminished in the next election. And with that, the very fabric of our Republic will be horribly torn apart!
Relax. The pendulum is just swinging back to other side. One day...
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Posted by: whealeydj on Jun 14, 2008 9:14 AM
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Posted by: Newsguy on Jun 14, 2008 11:18 AM
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What we need instead of a Fairness Doctrine is a requirement that stations beef up their local news and operate in "the public interest, convenience and necessity" as outlined in the Communications Act of 1934.
Stations currently are simply printing presses for money and to hell with the public.
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Posted by: BlueGorilla on Jun 14, 2008 5:14 PM
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After all doesn't this lie-fest illustrate,why there needs to be balance?
The right want a free reign,to access the minds of the populus,and vomit jock-bias all over them.Anything that offers fairness will be treated as Commie-liberal-Trotskyite-Maoism in the diseased mind of the thick-jock.
In the twisted brain-rung of a demented jock-mental,freedom equals whatever they say it is.
I wonder how many (un)shocking-jocks,were school bullies?
If the left is energized by this bias,it will represent the first good thing,that has ever resulted from the words of Limbaugh (tiny brain,tiny male parts), O'Reilly (soulless and impotent),or their stormtrooper follower's.
Why not create a new fairness doctrine?This far right, lie-fest should spur us into action.
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Posted by: mike_burns on Jun 15, 2008 11:45 PM
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Posted by: Romans1 on Jun 17, 2008 7:41 AM
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Posted by: edweirdness on Jun 17, 2008 12:23 PM
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Equally certain is the fact that "retail" radio will never countenance "debate radio" as an alternative to "talk radio", anymore than theatre allows the audience to chime in during a performance.
Air America failed because it offered no marketable product, other than politics that some felt boring, and others found offensive, and for the most part, offered only dogmatic, agenda driven responses to conservative talk radio. No one in liberal talk radio stopped to consider that their demographic probably didn't listen to conservative talk radio to begin with, and that any responses or rebuttals being offered were meaningless in the context of offering an "alternative viewpoint".
Shutting down or hamstringing a uniquely American media such as radio, simply because liberal elites don't have a "nack" for radio is dangerously misguided. Liberals won't always be left to wander in the desert, but they will have to emulate successful business models if they expect to use radio to spread their message.
If they (liberals) truly believe that talk radio must be "constrained" in any fashion, their battle for the hearts and minds of American's is already lost. Pissing off consumers who will simply "tune out" that which they do not care to listen to, will hardly serve to advance anyone's goals, and will doubtless compound the problems of an already struggling radio media marketplace.
Demanding that the rules be changed simply because "everybody on your team sucks" is childish, and shortsighted. Cowboy up why don't you, and spend a few bucks building a competitive alternative to conservative talk radio. If no one wants to listen to liberal talk radio, its not because of unfair competition, its because your message and the manner in which its presented, sucks!
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Posted by: rickiey on Jun 18, 2008 7:32 PM
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I mean, I must be there, because I read the replies and there a bunch of people saying that the government should have the right to determine the CONTENT of the publicized speech of those who talk about the rights and wrong doings of the government.
Here that spinning? It's the writers of the bill of rights in their graves, with their ghosts saying "Hey, stupid, we put that there for a REASON".
Ok, we know that this means clearchannel is going to give is Limbaugh, and Beck, and Savage and Hannity, and whoever the current republican hatemonger of the minute is. Yeah, so?
I mean, really. SO?
We can turn it off. We can turn on Air America. We can turn on some music. We can turn on PBS. We can turn on the XM radio and listen to Canadian comedy. We could turn the damn thing off, and actually talk in the car.
Do you really think that Americans are SO stupid, that they blindly do what Limbaugh says. Yes, some are. Most are not. And the ones that are that stupid, are NOT going to be swayed by a contradictory opinion following limbaugh. Why?
Because they are going to turn it off.
Government control of the content of media, is simply wrong.
Yes, some of you are going to say "You are just turning over control over the content of media to the corporations, that is worse".
And I'm gonna say, no, it isn't. Because none of the corporations have a monopoly. Nor do they have a specific political agenda. Yes, I know (don't start), they tend to go conservative because thats where the money is. Yeah, I know. Trust me, I KNOW. But the point is, the corporation's responsibility is to the MONEY, not to the republican party.
If the government is running the media, its the party line, all the time. No independents, no air america, none of it.
So, knowing that Limbaugh is on the air, unfettered, without a rebuttal on the same station, still, keeping government control out of the media, is WORTH IT.
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Posted by: Crazy H on Jun 11, 2008 3:39 PM
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There's a reason that Limpbone refuses invitations for one-on-one debates. It's the same reason that he's got a mute button for the callers. It's the same reason that o'Liely blows up at his guests.
And it's the same reason they're so deathly afraid of someone being able to respond to their BS on "their" medium.
That reason goes under the name of "Fact" and it scares them silly. (silly-er?)
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Posted by: UnEasyOne on Jun 12, 2008 4:08 AM
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When a minority effectively control 100% of the publicly owned airwaves, free speech is a dead letter.
Either free speech IS important and it is vital that the viewpoint of the majority be represented as well as the loudmouth minority with billionaire sponsors, or it is not - and they have no bitch if I kick em off the air.
The spinners of the "wingnut radio = free speech" lie have a basic argument - go buy your own radio station. Fine. Keep your f**kin radio station - just don't use MY airwaves to exclusively broadcast your propaganda!
When I have the license and you don't, let's see just how hard it is for me to borrow the money to start my own. Probably won't be much - yours will be on the market for cheap.
In other words, the value of these stations is not the equipment but the license! The license is for use of the airwaves - OWNED BY ME!
I am sick of demagogues like Savage inciting violence and hatred against progressives! I am tired of being lied about by the junkie Limbaugh. I am tired of being unable to find even centrist, middle-of-the-road dialog on MY airwaves.
When it has been monopolized by billionaires, "free" is an oxymoron.
Adherents of this status quo know their arguments can't stand up to scrutiny - lies are like roaches scrambling for the dark when the light is turned on. They will piss and moan that I am trying to take their free speech. F em! If they valued free speech, this conversation would be unnecessary.
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Posted by: deb.dellapiana on Jun 12, 2008 4:14 AM
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They don't have to go away. Let's simply balance it out with some Progressive Talk Radio so that we can have a fair fight over the airwaves. That's what freedom of speech is all about, children.
Clowns on parade. Every single one of them.
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Posted by: Biflspud on Jun 12, 2008 4:38 AM
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It's being sold as a first amendment issue to throw red meat to the libertarian base, but by far and large, it's coded to political figures: "We have a strong hand, and you'd better dance to our little tune."
Bravo, honestly -- it's well played. Transparent, but well played.
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Posted by: halweiner on Jun 12, 2008 4:52 AM
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They will migrate to the World Wide Web. You can't control or abolish that any more than you can put the genie back in the bottle.
Get over it. The " fairness doctrine " may not be totally fair but it is a lot better than what we now have and " enjoy "..... unfettered motormouth b.s. and slander.
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Posted by: ericthefool on Jun 12, 2008 5:33 AM
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I also get very angry because these people have so much power, so much freedom, and so much good they COULD do. They reach millions but only mislead them. They could really change things for the better, but decide to be on the side of $$$$ and self interest.
There is a trend going on in right wing radio right now. There is some dissent. Glen Beck was knocking both candidates yesterday and was even talking about forefathers and rolling back the constitution. O'Reilly is on a don't attack Iran tirade, O'Reilly and Hannity are acting sympathetic to the gas prices, but this is of course to drill in Anwar.
I don't think you can out right ban them, that would be very anti-American. I think we lay some rules down, and monitor some truthiness. Truth needs to come out. These people could change the World, if only they would tell the truth. Tell the truth, you can stay.
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Posted by: PakiBoy on Jun 12, 2008 6:07 AM
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Right-wing pundits have done a great job in making the so-called 'free-market' economic model palatable to middle-class workers, even though such an economic model is against the interest of the middle-class.
Right-wing pundits have done a great job in dismantling the civil liberty protections of the US justice system by pushing for a Unitary Executive to engage in domestic spying, Patriot Act, etc.
And best, Right-wing pundits have done a great job in making education (real education), critical thinking as enemy of the ordinary citizen. So in the 21st century, you have 'Creationism' being taught in America.
Professors are being harassed and smeared by well-funded groups like Campus-Watch.
This culture of anti-intellectualism that is being pushed by the Right-wing media, is the main reason why the Evil Empire is crumbling from within.
So, America, please, don't invoke the 'Fairness Doctrine'. It ain't fair to the rest of the world.
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Posted by: KeepsonTickn on Jun 12, 2008 6:35 AM
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Media conglomerates like Clearchannel are ignoring this huge untapped market, even while their stock prices are tanking.
I live in St. Louis. If I could listen to four radio stations at a time, I could hear hundreds of hours a week of right-wing radio, broadcast all over the metropolitan area. For a while last year, there was one small, low wattage station carrying one progressive program, Randi Rhodes, in a lineup that was otherwise solidly hate radio. To advertise her show, they played a clip of one of the most horrible statements Randi ever made, something about George W. Bush coming from his mother's "fetid womb." This clip was guaranteed to offend the majority of this Midwest audience. Heck, it offended me. The morning talk show DJs openly ranted about wanting Randi pulled off the air. Finally, (Before her infamous Hillary comments) Randi's program was replaced with a sports show.
The whole Randi Rhodes affair was obviously meant to say "Well, we tried, but progressive talk just doesn't make it on the radio."
It has been shown that a single progressive show on a conservative station will fail, because the right-wing audience will boycott their advertisers. Randi Rhodes was also an obvious mismatch to this market, particularly the subgroup that would enjoy hosts like Neil Boortz.
What I would like to see are more progressive stations. As I understand it, they are very succesful in markets where they actually exist. Media conglomerates are willing to give up market share to keep progressive talk off the airwaves, preferring to compete against themselves for the right-wing fringe.
Conservative radio personalities are always talking up market forces, yet they are quite happy to be esconced in a bubble where fifty percent of the market is excluded by owners who are more interested pushing an agenda than in either meeting the interests of the public or maximizing profits. We need to break up the cartels.
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Posted by: Glitterik on Jun 12, 2008 6:43 AM
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Jun 12, 2008 6:46 AM
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Plenty of other countries do it, so if we were really serious about "fairness", we'd scrap that silly old Constitution and just let the government tell us what for.
On penalty of fine, imprisonment, mayhap death.
We need folks to get serious about trampling folk's rights. GWB is only going to be able to do it for us for another few months.
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Posted by: alturn on Jun 12, 2008 6:50 AM
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It would be better to reserve a larger portion of the airwaves for local communnity (NOT NPR) non profit radio. Then legislate rules for this portion to be open to the widest wide spectrum of views and programming.
The creativity explosion would likely spark a renaissance greater than the Reagan fairness doctrine revolution. Imagine, people being on the air doing what they love, not doing what they are told.
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Posted by: ozonehole on Jun 12, 2008 7:03 AM
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It needs to be repealed. We need our anti-trust laws back. Clear Channel by buying out all competition. Four news groups own the entire newspaper business. Our right-wing media is as effective as Pravda once was.
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Posted by: Illiteratilumen on Jun 12, 2008 7:11 AM
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Bills like the Fairness Doctrine are as un-American as they get. Why should the government tell people what they should be listening to? If people wanted to hear left-wing radio shows Air America would be a thriving business with syndication across the country. It is not because there was not widespread demand for the services of that business. People want to listen to Rush and Sean Hannity for whatever reason they want to listen to them. I don't understand it but I don't understand why people watch shows like Who Wants to have Sex with Flava Flav either.
Compete or go home. Don't try and legislate what stations can and can't play.
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Posted by: steven w on Jun 12, 2008 7:54 AM
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Posted by: JibreelRiley on Jun 12, 2008 8:28 AM
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Plus Rush, Hannity, Levin and friends are good at what they do.
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Posted by: Drclaw on Jun 12, 2008 10:17 AM
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However, this should not be construed as allowing these idiots to say whatever they please. There is enough racist, sexist, and violent rhetoric out there from some of these guys to take them down now, and this should be used whenever possible to bring some sanity back to policitcal discourse.
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Posted by: dbatterman on Jun 12, 2008 10:36 AM
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I think there are many reasons why conservative talk radio does better than progressive talkers. They did forge the format itself first, and their most devoted listeners would rather be told what to think than think for themselves. Also, if I want an intelligent, cogent examination of news, I'll turn to NPR. If you want a bunch of easily digestible talking points, you turn to talk radio.
Even my hardcore conservative friends know that the likes of Limbaugh and Hannity are completely full of it. I think their audiences are probably 1/3 people who just think they're entertaining personalities, 1/3 people who disagree with them and listen because they want to "know thine enemy" and the other 1/3 just want to feel like they know something by repeating what "that there man on the radio jes said."
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Posted by: Wacre on Jun 12, 2008 10:37 AM
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This effort would be coupled with bringing the FCC in line as well, ensuring that corporations cannot come in and gobble up all the local media of any particular area.
Let's hit the Bill O' Reilly's and Sean Hannity's of the world where it hurts: In their wallets. And I understand that any fines would probably be paid for by the network, but amass enough of them and I guarantee that the hammer (and I don't mean Delay) will be brought down hard on such behaviour.
Because, let's be honest here. They may be rich, but they aren't rich enough that a few stiff fines couldn't sway them toward moderation.
And yes, it would be government interfering the the private sector. Sofw. The private sector seems to have an aversion toward any type of regulation, but once they bankrupt themselves, guess who's hand is dipping in the public trough?
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Posted by: reelectnoone on Jun 12, 2008 11:12 AM
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That would be one way to shut Limbaugh up...force him to tell only the truth.
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Posted by: robbie.seal on Jun 12, 2008 12:14 PM
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Many on this site have nothing but contempt for the government. They believe that it is controlled by big business, Extremist Christian Wackos and Right Wing Nazis. If that is the case, how can you trust that same government to decide what you will or will not listen to?
I personally have a problem with folks trying to tell me what I can or cant listen to, watch, read or say. I personally think its dangerous to give a small group of unelected officials that much power over me. If I don't like what someone says, I don't watch them, or don't listen to them or don't buy their books. What you consider fair today, may not be so fair tomorrow.
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Posted by: olita on Jun 12, 2008 2:40 PM
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I don't agree, as many here seem to think, that the reason that there isn't more left talk radio is because it isn't profitable or that there is a market for it.
I also think it's misguided to hold up Air America as proof that left/progressive radio doesn't work. It isn't that simple. There is a virtual monopoly on our air-waves, for starters...
..And to those who can't see how right wing talk has hurt our democracy, I say this: Democracy depends on a well informed citizenry. Rush, Sean etc. mostly do nothing more than spew the GOP talking point of the day, or their own hair-brained-logic-twisted P.O.V. There is a reason (besides Fox/Cable News)that a large percentage actually thought Saddam Hussein had WMD and was responsible for 9/11. DO you seriously think we would be in this war if the American people were actually informed with the truth?
Lastly, and I know I'm mixing issues here, I pose this amusing little thought exercise: If simply NOT listening to right-wing radio is an adequate remedy for those who despise it, why can't those who despise abortion simply NOT have one and allow THAT to be an adequate remedy as well? I mean, hundreds of thousands needlessly killed in Iraq because the public was lied to about the reasons for war is just as tragic of all those little babies who never got born because of an abortion, right?
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Posted by: Angel Of Mercy on Jun 12, 2008 2:40 PM
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They have no remaining credibility, no top-flight candidates, not much money and the Democrats are out-polling them on EVERY major issue this election cycle. Even hardcore rightwing ideologues are echoing the opinion that they're going to get their collective clock cleaned in November. The only thing that's left to them at this point is their tremendous media advantage. This article in the National Review Online hints that one might be going galley-west as well.
I would, of course, trust it more if it had appeared somewhere else...but that doesn't mean we cannot verify its allegations for ourselves. I hardly believe that the administration-friendly FCC would plot such a coup...but there are any number of sly, motivated Progressives who might conceive and execute this glorious game-changing maneuver.
If this is true--if even any significant PART of it is true!--the unclean Republicans could well be marginalized and reduced to the stature of a regional party for the rest of this century!
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Posted by: Ydotheyhateus on Jun 12, 2008 7:17 PM
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— U.S. Supreme Court, upholding the constitutionality of the Fairness Doctrine in Red Lion Broadcasting Co. v. FCC, 1969.
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Posted by: joze46 on Jun 13, 2008 2:53 PM
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For the past two decades one has to be a stooge not to understand the realities of what is happening on Hate Radio and in our broadband television cable spectrum. Limbaugh, along with IMUS deliberately made an argument from absurdity, ignorance, especially pleading or ridiculing with repugnance always misleading and with snobbery telling America they are the authority in cultural value in advanced in the studies of conservatism or independence.
Yes indeed, the greatest piece of propagandizing messaging that offers not what America needs to know but what they those with big money want you to know. These are sick people and America will only change when the public domain electromagnetic spectrum is taken from them.
If Obama delivers on that promise for change he will get my vote because I too am sick of the media and way they operate. America we would never be in this situation of uncertainty and despair if the media did its job. Please America we are the government and they are licensed to the public to serve and provide oversight. As in any licensed business they too like any official in government “MUST” support the laws and regulations in the Constitution as a government licensed Institution. Such as accept different oppinions "real live" not notes or read emails or opposite views by unknown people from real people not mystery voices that appear through a speaker on you car radio that you do not know which Limbaugh and other do, however alway seem to suggest they offer the truth. The current media with bias and greed have used and abused just about all the privileges. America we now witness torture as a debate and endure speech treachery forming a horrible cultural divide that does not have to be.
Change we can believe in is not good enough. Simply put, "Change We Must", or America will continue on a tail spin of dispair and division.
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Posted by: mainspark on Jun 13, 2008 4:36 PM
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It's a matter of sour grapes, in advance. They can see that John McCain won't be elected. They can see that their numbers in the House of Representatives and the Senate will be diminished in the next election. And with that, the very fabric of our Republic will be horribly torn apart!
Relax. The pendulum is just swinging back to other side. One day...
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Posted by: Newsguy on Jun 14, 2008 11:18 AM
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What we need instead of a Fairness Doctrine is a requirement that stations beef up their local news and operate in "the public interest, convenience and necessity" as outlined in the Communications Act of 1934.
Stations currently are simply printing presses for money and to hell with the public.
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Posted by: BlueGorilla on Jun 14, 2008 5:14 PM
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After all doesn't this lie-fest illustrate,why there needs to be balance?
The right want a free reign,to access the minds of the populus,and vomit jock-bias all over them.Anything that offers fairness will be treated as Commie-liberal-Trotskyite-Maoism in the diseased mind of the thick-jock.
In the twisted brain-rung of a demented jock-mental,freedom equals whatever they say it is.
I wonder how many (un)shocking-jocks,were school bullies?
If the left is energized by this bias,it will represent the first good thing,that has ever resulted from the words of Limbaugh (tiny brain,tiny male parts), O'Reilly (soulless and impotent),or their stormtrooper follower's.
Why not create a new fairness doctrine?This far right, lie-fest should spur us into action.
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Posted by: edweirdness on Jun 17, 2008 12:23 PM
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Equally certain is the fact that "retail" radio will never countenance "debate radio" as an alternative to "talk radio", anymore than theatre allows the audience to chime in during a performance.
Air America failed because it offered no marketable product, other than politics that some felt boring, and others found offensive, and for the most part, offered only dogmatic, agenda driven responses to conservative talk radio. No one in liberal talk radio stopped to consider that their demographic probably didn't listen to conservative talk radio to begin with, and that any responses or rebuttals being offered were meaningless in the context of offering an "alternative viewpoint".
Shutting down or hamstringing a uniquely American media such as radio, simply because liberal elites don't have a "nack" for radio is dangerously misguided. Liberals won't always be left to wander in the desert, but they will have to emulate successful business models if they expect to use radio to spread their message.
If they (liberals) truly believe that talk radio must be "constrained" in any fashion, their battle for the hearts and minds of American's is already lost. Pissing off consumers who will simply "tune out" that which they do not care to listen to, will hardly serve to advance anyone's goals, and will doubtless compound the problems of an already struggling radio media marketplace.
Demanding that the rules be changed simply because "everybody on your team sucks" is childish, and shortsighted. Cowboy up why don't you, and spend a few bucks building a competitive alternative to conservative talk radio. If no one wants to listen to liberal talk radio, its not because of unfair competition, its because your message and the manner in which its presented, sucks!
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Posted by: rickiey on Jun 18, 2008 7:32 PM
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I mean, I must be there, because I read the replies and there a bunch of people saying that the government should have the right to determine the CONTENT of the publicized speech of those who talk about the rights and wrong doings of the government.
Here that spinning? It's the writers of the bill of rights in their graves, with their ghosts saying "Hey, stupid, we put that there for a REASON".
Ok, we know that this means clearchannel is going to give is Limbaugh, and Beck, and Savage and Hannity, and whoever the current republican hatemonger of the minute is. Yeah, so?
I mean, really. SO?
We can turn it off. We can turn on Air America. We can turn on some music. We can turn on PBS. We can turn on the XM radio and listen to Canadian comedy. We could turn the damn thing off, and actually talk in the car.
Do you really think that Americans are SO stupid, that they blindly do what Limbaugh says. Yes, some are. Most are not. And the ones that are that stupid, are NOT going to be swayed by a contradictory opinion following limbaugh. Why?
Because they are going to turn it off.
Government control of the content of media, is simply wrong.
Yes, some of you are going to say "You are just turning over control over the content of media to the corporations, that is worse".
And I'm gonna say, no, it isn't. Because none of the corporations have a monopoly. Nor do they have a specific political agenda. Yes, I know (don't start), they tend to go conservative because thats where the money is. Yeah, I know. Trust me, I KNOW. But the point is, the corporation's responsibility is to the MONEY, not to the republican party.
If the government is running the media, its the party line, all the time. No independents, no air america, none of it.
So, knowing that Limbaugh is on the air, unfettered, without a rebuttal on the same station, still, keeping government control out of the media, is WORTH IT.
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