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What Does the Decay of Journalism Have to Do with My Huge Appetite for Celebrity Gossip?

By Vanessa Richmond, The Tyee. Posted May 31, 2008.


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"You're the problem," a male friend told me sternly a few weeks ago. I'm why the rich are getting richer and poor are getting poorer, why political apathy abounds, why environmental catastrophe looms. Because I, and people like me, read pop culture stories -- celebrity ones in particular. And because that's what more and more media are covering instead of what they "should" be (i.e. politics, the economy and international affairs). Hence, society is going to hell in a hand basket.

His criticism is equivalent to what gets posted in the comments sections of The Tyee and other news sites after almost any pop culture story. After blogging celeb Emily Gould's article "Exposed" ran in this weekend's New York Times Magazine (about the emotional trauma she experienced as a result of sharing too much of her and her friends' and boyfriends' lives online) many comments were variations on these ones: "Why is this important to me???????" and "I expect more from the New York Times."



Sure, it's true that there's no shortage of real, crucial issues right now. And I do read "serious" stories about them every day. But I am proud to say my reading diet includes far more stories that are considered to be the journalistic equivalent of genetically modified, non-organic candy corn.

I'm hardly alone. The readership numbers for pop culture stories -- which I count as celebrity, social trend, TV, music and film pieces in both blogs and traditional media -- are skyrocketing as readership of traditional news and newspapers is on the decline.

Talk among yourselves

It's not just democracy -- readers voting with their clicks -- that has convinced me about pop culture's worth. I actually think that much maligned celebrity "gossip" pieces can provide a rich forum for values debates. So I'm proud to say I know as much about the Greek drama of celebrity life as I do about the sub prime crisis or about the rising cost of oil. And I consider them to be not candy, but flavorful parts of the main course.

That's because pop culture journalism is like a misunderstood, blonde friend who seems air headed but actually gets the best marks in school, is the most fun to hang out with and the liveliest to talk to. That New York Times article by Emily Gould had 1212 comments posted after it by noon on Monday (before comments were closed). The most popular political op-ed column of the day had 102. That's not unusual.



And that pattern plays out in the real world, in my experience. Last week, at a dinner with some friends, I mentioned a story I'd read about peak oil and the impacts on flying. "Oh yeah?" said one smart, well-read friend. Then she told us about a recent flight she'd taken where the airline had lost her luggage. Later, I mentioned a story I'd read that listed "hippy-crite" celebs -- ones who say they're concerned about the environment but whose actions suggest otherwise. John Travolta recently said "everyone can do their bit" when it comes to global warming, but travels in his 150-passenger jet -- alone. Madonna headlined Al Gore's Live Earth concert in London but has $2 million invested in mining and oil exploration companies. Brad Pitt spearheads a green reconstruction project in the Hurricane Katrina-stricken Lower 9th Ward of New Orleans -- but flies in his private jet to and from meetings there.

The conversation about the environment, policy and personal responsibility lasted most of the evening. What are the worst environmental offenses? What's inexcusable and what's unavoidable? What should governments be doing and what's up to the individual?

Even the Emily Gould article is about the costs, benefits and limits of free speech, about censorship and privacy, about ethics in journalism. Did she go too far? What is too far? That's what people talk about.

Fame, fortune, families

Or how about this week's reports that Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt bought a $60 million chateau in Provence, France: the perfect spot for Jolie to give birth to twins in a few months. Mention Canada's declining fertility rate or the fact that the housing affordability crisis means many middle class Canadians are finding breeding just too expensive and you'll get a few polite nods. But mention Brangelina's recent purchase, along with the fact that each of their children has a personal nanny, or that Angelina Jolie says she wants three more kids (becoming this generation's Mia Farrow), and people shout over each other to weigh in. People talk about the cost of children and the consumerism around it. Some say it's wrong for a mother of four young kids to star in three movies this year -- or to constantly uproot the kids to various houses and schools around the world as she does so.



To add to that, this week Jenna Jameson said that, inspired by Angelina Jolie, she's going to stay unmarried and "go for the babies." And Kirsten Davis, also inspired by Jolie, has said she might remain single but adopt a baby. In response to these stories, people I know talk about the value of marriage, about the ethics of having children vs. adoption in an overpopulated world, about the difficulty of being a single parent, about a woman's right to choose when she has kids and how, about childcare and about men's role in raising kids.

On the other hand, there's Arianna Huffington's blog post "unmasking" John McCain's record on reproductive rights. In short, he has a 25 year record of voting against a woman's right to choose, his website says he's against Roe vs. Wade, against insurance companies covering birth control, and only believes in abstinence-only education. This week, McCain appeared on Ellen and said that he wishes her well, but is against the fact that she's now legally allowed to marry her partner, Portia de Rossi, in California this summer. Pretty similar discussions happen as a result of discussing Jolie's choices and McCain's positions -- but I bet more people know about Jolie and more people discuss fertility, reproductive rights and marriage as a result.

Trashy biases


I mention this to people who doubt the complexity of the values debate spurred by celebrities, and they don't tend to believe me. But the same or even more heated arguments transpire -- verbally and in the comments sections of news sites and blogs -- than political ones between insider politicos with brand name degrees. The difference is, pop culture readers accept that news readers read news, but not the other way around.



In fact, most of the people who are critical of my reading tendencies would be horrified to hear that they're being sexist or elitist -- but that's often the case. One friend who is a news addict (an admirable habit), said every woman he knows reads celebrity trash, and that every time he sees a tabloid around -- at home or work -- he throws it in the garbage where it belongs. He acknowledges men may read about sports, but says celebrities are far worse, and thinks women are slaves to powerful media companies (gosh). Another friend said that with two university degrees, I'm capable of understanding the news (read: unlike some people) so don't need to spend my time on trash. He meant well, but doesn't see his own bias.

Talking about patterns in pop culture is at least as useful a vehicle for social criticism than pure politics. It is politics. It's also democratic. Pop culture is popular not because it's dumb, but because it's usually about the crucial questions of life and society, told with interesting characters and a constantly updating, suspenseful storyline. And just like with Emily Gould's piece, pop culture pieces tend to get the big readership.

The Wright approach

Do I think all celebrity stories are valid and true? Well, I don't tend to trust anything with unnamed sources -- in news or pop culture. Do I think more media sites will start to publish only high readership pieces and ignore the news? Well, if they do, they'll lack credibility and lose readers who want a balanced diet. And don't tell me that I can't sample tabloid journalism without becoming its dupe. Some critical distance is the best stance when imbibing any form of journalism, including celebrity soap operas.

Do I think the current methods of gathering celeb news are OK? I have to admit, that like my other omnivorous eating habits, I eat meat but don't actually kill the animal myself. I've never stalked a celebrity or hung out with the paparazzi and don't plan to. In fact, I find the idea distasteful and would prefer that there were more ethical standards in place. There's more than enough fodder for discussion from what celebs say themselves on talk shows, statements, media conferences and premieres.

And as Lara Cohen, the news director at Us Weekly pointed out in her piece "Who Are You Calling a Tabloid?" a few weeks ago, political writers aren't exactly angelic. "To say the news media's coverage of Reverend Wright has been exhaustive is like saying that Us was mildly interested in Brad Pitt's split from Jennifer Aniston. The true hallmark of sensationalized journalism is ginning up controversy to drive sales. Wright's outbursts were the mainstream media's equivalent of Tom Cruise jumping on Oprah's couch -- a train wreck no one could turn away from. And so they milked it, regardless of the impact on the very race they were supposedly covering objectively."



At least I know what I'm eating.

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Posted by: kepstein7777 on May 31, 2008 4:11 AM   
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Perhaps a group of Alternetters can stretch a Brad and Angelina story into a half-way intelligent discussion. But it doesn't explain the other 90% who read this stuff for pure gossip, and couldn't give a crap about the cultural, sociological, values, and other aspects of it.

As for me, I can only take so much "real" news. Economics and foreign policy can often be depressing, or dry and tedious. Sometimes I just want to point at the TV and make fun of all the flaky celebrities.

Many lefties seem to put too much pressure on themselves and each other. You don't have to be PC, relevant, and intelligent all the time, and you don't always have to rationalize your indulgences as research for your master's thesis. And if some PC snob or news junkie gives you a hard time, just grab a copy of People Magazine, roll it up, and smack them on the nose with it.

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» RE: Maybe Posted by: Livemike
» RE: Maybe Posted by: Livemike
» RE: Maybe Posted by: Livemike
Knowledgetastic
Posted by: mattcoa on May 31, 2008 4:51 AM   
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The notion that gossip leads to intelligent discourse on important subjects is a flimsy argument. Just because you are discussing an issue, doesn't mean you are knowledgable. Everybody has become a pundit, offering opinions on subjects that they know nothing about. And like most pundits on tv, they're never right. I've talked to Christians who have never read the bible; discussed the use of renewable energy with people who have never even read an article on the subject. Discussing subjects that you're not educated about leads to perpetuation of misconceptions. Which reminds me; I heard somewhere that Obama is a secret Muslim, and theres no way I'm gonna vote for a Muslim because they're all terrorists.

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» RE: Knowledgetastic Posted by: Livemike
Time is valuable
Posted by: Maryanne on May 31, 2008 5:39 AM   
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I have just so much time, so I want this spent on things that are important and important to me. I do NOT care what celebraties are doing with their social lives since none of this impacts my life. When the airwaves are filled with this nonsense hour after hour when there are matters of significance that we should know about this is a disgrace. People are being force fed this stuff- they wouldn't watch it if it weren't there. (They can always buy a tabloid if this stuff is so necessary in their lives.) For the rest of us, cut out this stuff and give us real news.

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» RE: Time is valuable Posted by: beautifulady2003
Back in the day....
Posted by: Tom Degan on May 31, 2008 6:11 AM   
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During the era of the Cronkites, the Murrows and the Severeids, our parents and grandparents had a pretty good idea what was going on with respect to affairs of state. That is no longer the case. The deregulation of the FCC a generation ago has had a dreadful effect on the American electorate. Think about it for a minute. A quarter of a century ago, CBS was owned by the Paley family. Today it is owned by Westinghouse - an arms manufacturer.

Why aren't the American people outraged by this turn of events? Because they've been so dumned-down since the dawn of the Reagan Revolution, they don't know any better. It's sickening.

Thank God for sites like AlterNet.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

McClellan's Talking

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» RE: Back in the day.... Posted by: somatzu
» Networking Posted by: ray burchard
» RE: Back in the day.... Posted by: Livemike
Talk Is Cheap
Posted by: RobP on May 31, 2008 6:50 AM   
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..

news or gossip- same thing.
just keep on staring at your screen....

while you sit, while you walk, while you wait...

as life passes you by....

..

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» RE: Talk Is Cheap Posted by: Prairie Waif
"I do *not* own a Television. I *read*."
Posted by: Prairie Waif on May 31, 2008 6:55 AM   
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Whenever, I read that statement in someone's description of themself? I know they have pretty much cut themselves off from the exterior world and live in a world of their self-styled intellectual snobbery. GACK!

The entire idea of trying to elevate oneself above others by arranging Architectural Digest, Mother Jones, along with your Mountain Equipment Co-op Catalogue, Wired and Wallpaper publications is over the top on trying to prove your intellectual superiority over those who GASP own and watch television.

It reminds me of Stephan Hawking's Book, A Brief History of Time being on the best seller list for months and yet, how many people used it as little more than a paperweight for the pile of computer printouts accumulating on the coffee table? I know of *one* person who actually read the book.

This year's Primary race has been more comedy and drama than any episode of The Young and The Restless, that my Mom like to watch during supper and comment on "how stupid do they think we are?" "Why, oh why, would she take *that* THING back?" and more. It was fun and we laughed as we closed down the day, Mom with her gardening and work around the farm and me, dragging in from TA-ing 30 first year Geography students. I still miss it; can't watch the show without Mum's commentary, it's not the same.

To be derisive about popular culture is shooting yourself in the foot, but that is my opinion. I watch commercials and analyze trends of target markets and the new means of marketing and see how they are tied in to the latest "celebrity" trend and thus, which celebrity is on top and who has fallen from grace.

As quoted on television last night, keep your friends close, but your enemies closer. If you are a parent, I am not, but deal with young people, knowing the trends and how your child is a "target market" will also assist you in teaching them to communicate effectively and assertively. Think not?

I began and operated a girls day camp where we spent a day on dissecting media and the message. The girls (ages 8 to 14) made collages from magazines; womens, teens, fashion, People, etc. They were asked to explain their collage and the group discussed it. You'd be surprised at the variety of takes on it and how, one 8-year old who had made a collage of lipstick, explained that "our lips are not okay without junk," the discussion followed from that; likewise the collage on Red Carpet Gowns.

We live in a media saturated age. To decline to participate because of some self-imposed impression of snobbery, leaves you on the outside of the discourse and looking less educated than you thought you could look by stacking your fancy reading material next to your stack of Wall Street Journals.

I am quite happy to get People Magazine's Sexiest Man Alive edition and put it on the bookshelf next to my Planet Simpsons Book, I Am America and So Can You, and Freakonomics. Nothing wrong with a mix of reading anymore than cheezies and eating a filet mignon every now and again.

Gotta go, time for Bear in the Big Blue House.

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Dibble is Programming, Programming is Conditioning, and The FAUX media is the Message.
Posted by: Ottomatic on May 31, 2008 7:01 AM   
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Garbage in and garbage out.
They are certainly,
Con-o-sewers of GARBAGE.
Point the finger in the other direction.
Sensationalist,
Corpirate Dibble.
$5 DOLLARS a gallon please!
Job and pay gone.
Big opening at Burger King!
Where did our Country go?
Where did our money go?
I pledge alligiance to
The Corpirate State
Where some CEO seals my fate.
If they came back to day?
What would the Fore fathers say?
They would laugh right away at:
All the corruption, spying, torture, treason and Lies
There's no surprise.
What is, is.
Watch the monkey dance as Dead Eye picks your pocket.

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I hate to be the...
Posted by: somatzu on May 31, 2008 7:16 AM   
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...weaselly relativist, always sneaking in and out of everyone else's opinions, but don't we all have guilty pleasures that, if they stuck their heads up for a second, would come under all kinds of critical gunfire? I also hate to indulge the whole "...everything in moderation" cliche but isn't that the point here?

I mean, none of us are actually going to cut out all our secret (or not so secret) desires for vacuous junk, whether it be in the form of pop gossip, Swedish doom metal, civilization 4, posting comments ;) etc. No one should be completely consumed by their desires, but we shouldn't turn into bolsheviks, crying out against anything that we perceive to be void of social value.

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» Doom metal rules. Posted by: Coleman
Waste of Time
Posted by: beautifulady2003 on May 31, 2008 7:22 AM   
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I'm sorry but I just can't go along with the premise that celebrity gossip leads to meaningful discussion. I won't waste my time on it. I consider my time to be a precious commodity and I try to use it wisely. I don't understand the need some people have to spy on other people's lives, or why they find movie stars or pop singers to be so fascinating. There is so much more in the world to be interested in.

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What Purpose Does Celebrity Gossip Serve?
Posted by: lavendula13 on May 31, 2008 7:39 AM   
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I agree with Maryanne, it serves no purpose. If the American people turned off the boob tube and turned away from MySpace for just ten minutes a day, they might educate themselves on the real issues confronting us, not just us as a nation but us as a species. I have nothing against Angelina Jolie, but my real focus is (as it should be) on the increasing acidification of the oceans and the subsequent extinction of species, including coral.
Wake up people. The party is over, and everyone else has left the room. Time to get back to real life, no matter how unpleasant it may be. Failing to confront the problems does not make them disappear.

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Blah, blah, blah...
Posted by: greens4me on May 31, 2008 7:49 AM   
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I find it quite interesting how some people feel they need to justify their celebrity addiction! Just when I thought I had heard it all, now someone is trying to tell us that it creates more conversations about important issues,which in turn can lead to positive action (this one makes me laugh so hard I can barely type!). I would really like to know who reads about (and listens to) the lives of celebrities and then assesses their own lifestyle in order to make changes that will have a positive impact on this planet and all its inhabitants. The people that I know that read this crap (yes I do classify it as that!)give little thought to the devastation that is causes to the forests (in creatures that rely on them, including us!) due to the publication of this less than informative (to put it very politely) blah, blah, blah media coverage.

How many people want to be like A. Jolie and Brad Pitt...probably far too many considering that their actions to not reflect the so called positive message they (and others) try to get out there. I think it is time that people just admit that they are addicted to celebrities and what they have to offer, which in mind is very little in a world that is desperate need of positive role models and people willing to walk the walk, not just talk the talk!

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» RE: Blah, blah, blah... Posted by: helenwheels
» RE: Blah, blah, blah... Posted by: beautifulady2003
Life is short, time is valuable.
Posted by: Artkansas on May 31, 2008 8:03 AM   
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Unfortunately, most of this pop-star worship is designed to distract you from the major issues. You can only pay attention to one thing at a time. Time wasted on a star's sex life or lack thereof is time you will never get back and time that has not helped you in your life.

While news of how big Gore's house is may start a little discussion on the environment, it really stalls progress. No one is motivated to help the environment by that news and in fact it's discredited because it's revealed that an environmental talker is not an environmental doer. So why should we?

As long as we are talking. Why not mention what a hideous industry the paparazzi has grown up to be. Talk about eroding privacy. Why shouldn't an actor be able to go home at the end of the day and enjoy their home life? Acting is just their livelihood, much as driving a truck or making a web page is the livelihood of others. But it's people like the author who are driving this obsessive nosiness.

And inevitably, since this is what people respond to, it's driving meaningful news off the screen. We can see Brangelina or news about how Bush fabricated intelligence before invading Iraq. But realistically, we don't have time for both, not on a half hour news report. Which bit of news do you think will get aired?

As McLuhan said, "The Medium is the Massage". Pop-star worship journalism massages our eyes and our ears, distracting us from important happenings and robbing us of our ability to react to them.

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Oh Please!
Posted by: Grandma Crabby on May 31, 2008 8:17 AM   
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This is the dumbest article I have read in a very long time.

Here is the REAL function of celebrity gossip:

1. It provides some excitement for people who lead very boring lives.

2. It continues the high school mentality for those who actually enjoyed it in high school and have no ability to grow up.

3. It is not as "depressing" as real news.

4. It is an easy, cheap way for news organizations to fill air time.

5. People love to gossip.

6. Most celebrities are willing participants... even those who you see running from the paparazzi. This makes it easy on the news organizations.

7. Makes it a little easier to appreciate your own life when you see some rich bimbo who "has it all" make a damn fool of herself. As in, "I may be kind of a loser, but at least I do not shave my head in public."

Now those are the functions of celebrity gossip. DO NOT try to make it sound grand dearie, just accept the fact that you like to read a bit of crap. (Now that is NOT as bad of as habit as constantly scratching yourself in public.)

However, whether you have the ego strength to admit it or not, the overload of celebrity gossip replacing decent journalism is indeed a big reason why America is in the toilet.


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» RE: Oh Please! Posted by: helenwheels
» RE: Amen! Posted by: lessbread
» Well said . . . Posted by: Scientz
Not the straightest course
Posted by: oscarg on May 31, 2008 8:26 AM   
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Enlightened discourse may come from celebrity gossip in the same fashion that healthful eating habits may be derived from a steady diet of junk food. It's possible, but unlikely to happen and probably not the straightest course to that end. I bet most parents would mind if their children went to college and studied "the latest news" on their fav celebrities. When you feed this monster, it only gets bigger. Further, celebrity gossip's focus is what make things important and relevant. And many of these things hurt people. For example, diet, weight, and flab. Talk about building an industry on insecurities.

This is not to say we, the addicts to the mainstream news media, are any better off. We get indoctrinated daily by the powers that be. Who are we to throw stones?

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Dilsie
Posted by: uncle charley on May 31, 2008 8:26 AM   
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All this makes me wonder: there must be a hero/royalty/celebrity fascination gene in the human system. Since over 200 years ago when the U.S. was liberated from the shackles of royalty, we continue to worship & adore celebs, whether sports, politics, entertainment, religion or [gasp] royalty. Until science learns how to alter pathological genes, looks like we're stuck with it. Now where did I put that last issue of Sports Illustrated?

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» RE: Dilsie Posted by: Cardinal Spellman
"That trial"
Posted by: wildbill on May 31, 2008 8:28 AM   
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Several years ago, before 9/11 and the TSA, I was changing planes at the Salt Lake City airport, and the ticket agent at the gate was asking everyone for their ID, even though we were already in the secure area and had arrived on other planes from the same airline.

The man in front of me asked the agent why they were checking IDs. The agent said, "It's because of the verdict in that trial." The O.J. Simpson murder trial had just concluded, and the passenger asked, "What does O.J. have to do with airline security?" The agent said, "Not that trial, the other one, in New York."

The trial of the World Trade Center truck bombers had also just concluded, with some convictions and prison sentences. That trial had a direct effect on many of us, through a little more hassle at the airport gate and, eventually, through "WTC Part II - 9/11" and the many ways it changed our lives and the lives of Americans and others for generations to come. Little mention was made of that New York trial in the media, while O.J.'s trial got typical saturation, "ride that horse until it's dead then whip it and try to keep riding" coverage by all the print and broadcast media, even it it only affected the lives of O.J. and the victims' families.

There were a lot of other things going on while the media was feeding us a steady diet of O.J. Our government and the PACs that control it were quickly sneaking a lot of things through that affected us all, while everyone was distracted by a high-profile murder case.

We probably deserve what we get. 9/11 wasn't a conspiracy by evil politicians or businessmen, as some claim, but it wasn't what most Americans thought it was, either, simply "evildoers" attacking us because "they hate our freedom." If we could pry ourselves away from Britney's self-destruction and Rev. Wright's loud rants and Racheal Ray's scarf, etc., etc., we might understand how the world really works and why things happen as they do, and why the trial in New York was ultimately much more important to us than the one in California.

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You ARE the problem.
Posted by: Ayla87 on May 31, 2008 9:10 AM   
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I don't think celebrity gossipers have really taken into accoun the impact that they've had on the lives that they enjoy to watch go up in flames. Do you honestly think that Britney Spears would've had that nervous breakdown, if she didn't have a dozen poparazzi around her at all times for five years? Do you really think Lindsey Lohan's drug addiction would've lasted as long as it did if it wasn't on the news being 'exposed' every night.

Gossip and lies cause immense amounts of stress in people, we all learned that in middle school. And with enough stress in thier lives, people snap, do stupid things, and pick up addictions to cope with thier pain. So why are people supporting such behavior by buying celebrity gossip magazines and watching E! ? All you're doing is destroying lives.

And there is a difference between sports and celebrity gossip. Sports coverage, rarely focuses most of it's attention on the individual players, unless they've done something actually newsworthly (Like when Dwayne Wayne bought his mother her own church for mothers day). They focus on the games that are played, and the teams that play against each other. They stay out of the lives of the individual players.

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» RE: You ARE the problem. Posted by: Livemike
CELEBRITY FLUFF
Posted by: Docent on May 31, 2008 11:00 AM   
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Celebrity gossip...Pap for the masses. Media is interested in.....ratings and only the corporate bottom line. "Infotainment" now is the norm in the news media arena. Celebrity gossip is the deception of our society to the distraction of actual newsworthy information that affects each one of us and the way we live our lives.

There are only 24 hours in the day and when the most important thing coming out of the news is celebrity fluff - what does that say about our information pipeline?

I cannot understand how the writer actually thinks that the people who make a feast of
celebrity hijinks really are interested in
any forthright discussion of more than what new movie some celebrity is involved in or what drug rehab care facility they just got out of.

Does it really matter how much people are fascinated by the rich, famous and powerful?
Does what they are doing with their lives really skew our society in a harmful way?
Have we become a nation of "watchers" and "wishers" as opposed to "thinkers" and "doers"?

Would our country be in this debtor's mess, the WMD quagmire in Iraq, the sub-prime
housing debacle, sinking dollar and painful oil dependance if our main public news and media sources had given us the accurate threads of information necessary to make informed decisions?

Of course not......just load up the people with celebrity junk as a distraction....and it helps bring in the advertising dollars for
Big Corpa!

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I fundamentally disagree with the article
Posted by: daniel347x on May 31, 2008 11:16 AM   
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I think this article fails to discuss or describe the nature of sensationalism in media. In my opinion, sensationalism is not a means of empowering people to act. Instead, it's a means of disempowering people. It's no coincidence that social, cultural, and political issues are raised - that's the whole point, the whole purpose. It channels the sense that "this is my world and I can be involved" into "since we can't do anything about the world, let's tune in to watch what famous people with alot of prestige and often money do, when they have to deal with the struggles of life".

Celebrities almost never raise radical political concepts, they almost never talk about organizing for an increased minimum wage, for a shorter work week, to defund the military, against capitalism. If they did, they wouldn't become celebrities - because the role of celebrities is to make a comfortable place for many different people to be able to safely discuss issues of life without having to challenge serious norms that would put their own job, their own social standing, at risk. It could be different, but it's not.

The author describes how conversations about celebrities engage people in political discussion. As an example, she gives (regarding Angelina Jolie) some say it's wrong for a mother of four young kids to star in three movies this year. This, though, is a perfect example of the way sensationalism channels energy away from politics, not towards it! How is the question of whether Angelina Jolie should star in three movies a political conversation? Even if it's a political conversation about women's issues, about being forced to engage full-time in home life and work life without social support, and how women (or men) should have a right to paid leave and other social support structures, I think it's a perfect example of how this necessary conversation gets channeled away from organizing to make it happen, in a way that any corporate CEO and right-wing politician would be very, very happy to accept.

When the author politicizes issues by framing them in a political context and using celebrity gossip to raise radical political points - that is political. It's important to politicize things, and when the author does this, it's the work of a political activist. In my opinion, though, this is the exception. Normally, conversations about celebrities have the political connotations sanitized out of them.

I also disagree with the second main theme of the article - that it is sexist and elitist to disparage celebrity adolation and conversations about the lives of celebrities. The author gives an example of someone who says with two university degrees, [the author] is capable of understanding the news so doesn't need to spend [her] time on trash. Actually, in my opinion people with university degrees tend to be more indoctrinated, and have their political sensibilities more channeled away from political change, than people without university degrees. The comment was very elitist and classist. But how is that an argument that conversations about celebrities are about important political issues? It's a straw-man argument.

The author's other central example was a man who thinks "celebrities are far worse" than sports and throws away all tabloids. I don't think celebrities are far worse than sports - I think they're about the same. In some ways the issues are a bit different, but at a deeper level I think they both fill the same role: to disempower people by channeling energy away from important pursuits, in what little free time people have. I don't think many people who have seriously thought through this issue would say that sports are not worthy of the same criticism that celebrity culture is. To me, the sports example is another straw-man argument.

Dan Nissenbaum

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I wouldn't shed a tear if . . .
Posted by: countingdaisies on May 31, 2008 11:53 AM   
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every top celebrity dropped dead today.

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People Gossip
Posted by: stuarts on May 31, 2008 12:28 PM   
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Studies of indigenous cultures show that they spend a lot of time around the hearth discussing who's dating whom and who would be a good match for whom, amongst other rather familiar topics. So, I get why folks invest their time in this stuff. I understand the appeal from an anthropological perspective. The question I have is why are they talking about folks they don't know and never will know? Why are they investing their time finding out if Brad is a good mate when he will likely never mate with one in their tribe? What does it say about these folks that they don't spend their gossip time around their hearths investing that energy exclusively in those that they socialize with? Why the need for the surrogate? What's missing?

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» RE: People Gossip Posted by: brightideas
» RE: People Gossip Posted by: PopRox80
» RE: People Gossip Posted by: Livemike
Why TV News is Bad For You
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on May 31, 2008 1:04 PM   
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I think this comparison of TV versus Reading sums up why TV News is bad for you.


Getting News from TV is to Getting News from Reading
Like Writing a Book Report on a Movie is to Writing a Book Report on a Book

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Celebrity News Watchers do NOT make Good Voters
Posted by: rfrancis@godisdead.com on May 31, 2008 1:11 PM   
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The author has a point in regards to sports.

Sports viewing offers less value to people than even celebrity news.

I am not on the team, I do not have friends and family on the team, why care what happens to the team? Just because I live close to them?

It really is idiotic.


That said watch this video on YouTube where people are asked who they are voting for, what their favorite policy of the candidate is, and what specific aspect of the policy do they like.

Discussing celebrity news might possibly (though I seriously wonder) lead to thoughtful debates on issues like the drug war or the war in Iraq but it does not make the person an informed voter.

If the citizen does not know the bills the candidates have sponsored, the bills they have voted yes on and no on, they are ill informed and hurt our democracy. I don't care how many subjects they might be educated on.


And as that video shows just about no one is actually informed about the candidate they want to win.

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Celeb gossip is valuable?
Posted by: tap17x on May 31, 2008 1:23 PM   
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Utter bullshit. It's her lame excuse for her worthless addiction. She is part of the problem. Celeb worship is responsible for OJ getting away with murder, for Reagan becoming the second-worst prez in modern history, for the extreme overpay of actors like that idiot Travolta and his "Scientology," and other offenses too numerous to mention. People Magazine is bought only by imbeciles who have no lives.

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» RE: Celeb gossip is valuable? Posted by: beautifulady2003
Nope...
Posted by: radiomorning on May 31, 2008 3:13 PM   
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You almost had me, but a lot of your logic is flawed, no doubt from cutting your teeth in celeb chat forums.

Because something is more popular doesn't give it any merit or value whatsoever. You also didn't convice me of the value of these morality debates you get into with your fellow celeb-worshippers.

I agree sports is a distraction from the issues, but its not creepy like celeb worship. I mean, I see Brad Pitt in movies as I might see an athlete in a game. I read about new movies and music as I might peruse the sports section. I certainly don't care to read about what my favorite athletes do in the privacy of their own home, their families/pets/hobbies etc. Beacause I don't care. So it's not the same thing at all.

It's just creepy. Its like watching your neighbours from behind the curtains.

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Huh?
Posted by: improperly_sedated on May 31, 2008 3:13 PM   
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Suppose I were a bandit by trade. I could easily sit down with my colleagues to discuss what concealable weapons have the greatest intimidation value and wind up talking about the environment, abortion rights, or party politics.

Does this justify banditry?

While not quite as antisocial, celebrity gossip is a clearly malignant force in society. It is the cutting edge of our abandonment of privacy, followed closely by a similar treatment of public officials. We wind up with blowjob impeachments. We wind up with no one but a narcissistic freak willing to engage in public life.

And on a more direct level, it is sadistic harassment. We have been told that simply by being famous, a person is made fair game for endless public humiliation. We have been told that if someone wanted a private life, they should never have gone into show business. That they should never have allowed themselves to become famous by any means. That they should have just kept a low profile and not gotten involved.

But apparently this is all OK, because some of the people who perpetuate this humiliation are, in some ways, decent human beings who like to talk about things that matter.

Folks talked about important issues while they watched the gladiatorial games, too.

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» Another spot-on post. Posted by: Coleman
» RE: Huh? Posted by: Livemike
Relativity
Posted by: Jeanne on May 31, 2008 4:36 PM   
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Does it matter how much useless crap we fill our heads and time with, as long as we know it is crap? If, however, we make the mistake of thinking this crap is important, then it is a problem. I resent the fact that I know who Britney Spears (or Lindsay Lohan) is. But, I can honestly say, I've never sat down and watched anything they've been in, thanks to knowing who they are!

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Good and bogus journalism
Posted by: willymack on May 31, 2008 7:05 PM   
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Let's face it; TV news is mostly cheap pablum, mind numbing mush. There are a few bright lights like Kieth Olbermann, Rachel Maddow, Dan Abrams, and comedians Jon Stewart and Steven Colbert to shed some light on the awful truths of the bush regime. The rest is just plain junk, and knuckleheads like Lush Limberger, Shill O'liely, and Sean Hamhead are a very unfunny joke. Trashy tabloids have a place in that a lot of our people are semi-literate and don't comprehend much unless there are lots of pictures of hapless twits who serve to make the readers of the tabloids feel a little better about themselves. Maybe Olbermann et. al. are the beginning of a revival of REAL broadcast journalism. A return of anti-trust laws and the breakup of monopolies encouraged since reagan's days would speed the process.

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Stress and Overwork is a big cultprit too...
Posted by: Smartcookie on May 31, 2008 10:47 PM   
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... and is why things arne't getting solved, most people are trapped in obligations and strapped for time, so they don't have the time to put much of their thought towards big complicated issues that DO NOT SCALE well. i.e. as population increases the scale becomes more difficult to manage.

On top of that and finding people who can think straight and ADD to the discussion rather then divert people from thinking clearly about issues is a real problem.

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Pop culture soma
Posted by: YogiBear on Jun 1, 2008 10:53 AM   
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That New York Times article by Emily Gould had 1212 comments posted after it by noon on Monday (before comments were closed). The most popular political op-ed column of the day had 102. That's not unusual.

And that pattern plays out in the real world, in my experience.


3 out of 4 Kings have found it's much easier to keep the serfs happy if they're distracted from the real goings on of the day. Pop culture is a live soap opera. It's a distraction from our daily lives, just as tipping one back in a bar is or keeping track of one's fantasy baseball team is.

These elements are also necessary, in small doses, to prevent hopeless despair from settling in. In large doses, they prevent us from rising up en masse against our subjugators.

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Amazing
Posted by: PopRox80 on Jun 1, 2008 8:50 PM   
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that with things like this happening in the world, people can still stomach celebrity gossip.

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Pop Culture and The Rabble
Posted by: pdxstudent on Jun 2, 2008 11:08 AM   
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We have already heard for over the last 100 years that we are a decadent civilization on the wane. Why then do the rabble resent those who call it for what it is, who take it seriously insofar as that means recognizing that there is the rabble and then there is something better?

Let those who want to indulge decadent junk do so, but don't let them get away with calling it or treating it as anything other than junk. Forgetting this, deliberately or by mistake, is what ruins the best in humanity.

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Next time you go to a supermarket . . .
Posted by: Walks-in-Storms on Jun 3, 2008 7:28 AM   
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Ask the checkout clerk how many of those celebrity and tabloid magazines he sells to men. It should tell you a great deal about what's happening to our country.

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Dumb and Dumberer
Posted by: BlueGorilla on Jun 6, 2008 4:44 PM   
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I remember in my childhood,when the whole family would sit and take in a John Pilger documentary,or Play For Today..(which often presented a very raw,challenging drama dealing with ,social issues imaginatively).This was the 70s and 80s.
We were a fairly standard British blue collar lot.The culture we engaged in ,veered from vapid soap dramas to challenging political investigative journalism.
Pure,brainless fun is an essential part of any culture..but now it is a case of candyfloss taking over, more and more of the menu.For many,today, there seems little room left,for anything substantial,
Looking back,perhaps through slightly rose tinted spectacles,I beleive that we were engaging with the world on a level,that would be seen as intellectual by many of today's celeb-soaked zombies (with apoligies, to any recently reanimated, dead people,who might be reading this.I meant no criticism of your reanimated intellect ).
I am appalled by celeb cultures,complete takeover of the telly and magazine racks..there seems to be no escape from this vicarious ,culture.The phenomenon seems to proudly elevate the talentless (ie the British royal family, a third rate model,or a kick and run football player etc).
A growing number of youngsters have the ambition merely "to be famous",wwhhhaattt..??? These hopeless case's don't want to develop a talent,or help society,y'know the old route to fame.They have seen the empty husk, that is Paris Hilton,and been inspired by the American nightmare..and it is wasting their talents.
Just at the point,when the world needs the young, more than ever,many of them respond with vacancy.
If the wantonly thick ,want to follow this emptyness,then that is their choice (though it is a sad one,and hasn't happened in a social vacuum),however the problem is,that this anti-culture invades and infects the world,that the rest of us inhabit.
I beleive that ,when the great wave of the melting icebergs,is about to hit our shores,the Murdoch newspapers in the UK,will have a special feature on some "reality tv"dullard,and his/her on/off media generated relationship,with some other spaghetti necked,witless, gap in the air model.

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this has happened for years
Posted by: dannrusso on Jun 7, 2008 5:05 AM   
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Joe DiMaggio! Marilyn Monroe! Arthur Miller!

and just think of how many celebrities our parents and grandparents were talking about...with the invention of the internet, and its 24/7 "news" cycle, of course the amount of "news" is going to exponentially explode...

my wife was just reading over my shoulder and said "as long as they are paying attention to Bono instead of Lindsey and Brittney we'll all be ok" but its not just that - without the internet and its complete oversaturation of everything we wouldnt have been that into Rev. Wright or people discussing President Obama's "Muslim" past - its easier to make anyone into a celebrity and of course when you go for the lowest common denominator, its easy to get people into a feeding frenzy after which they have no desire or ability to a. see the truth or 2. stop feeding at the teat of gossip pages and what they are being told is news.

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