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If Congress Slaps Rove with Contempt, How Will His Bosses at Fox and Newsweek Deal with It?

The press is too busy employing -- and praising -- Rove to notice his mounting legal jeopardy.
May 22, 2008  |  
 
 
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If Rep. John Conyers (D-MI) holds true to his recent promise to slap Karl Rove with a contempt of Congress charge for refusing to answer questions about explosive abuse-of-power allegations and whether Rove unleashed the Justice Department on a prominent Alabama Democrat, it will be interesting to see how Rove's newfound media employers at Newsweek, Fox News, and The Wall Street Journal handle the story.



It will also be worth noting how Beltway opinion-makers in the press, who in recent weeks have been praising Rove for his second act as a full-time pundit, deal with the messy development.


When Rove began lining up media jobs following his 2007 White House departure, there were howls of protest about such an obvious and controversial partisan being embraced by media outlets as a news analyst.


The politics-to-press revolving door is not good for journalism. (We need more reporters, not pundits.) But the trend is not going away, and history shows the media are far more willing to hire partisan Republicans than Democrats.


My beef with the Rove hiring, though, centers on two issues related specifically to him. The first is about the still-unfolding saga out of Alabama (more on that below) and the way Rove's new employers consistently downplay that troubling story. As do journalists now busy handing out kudos to Rove for his talking-head talent.


But secondly, and perhaps more importantly, why is Rove being held up as a paragon of political analysis at the very moment the Republican president he helped mold, and the Republican Congress he helped steer, are both in complete free falls? I don't remember the mainstream media clamoring to sign up the political insights of Hamilton Jordan just as President Jimmy Carter plummeted in the polls.



According to the most recent surveys, President Bush's current second-term debacle exceeds any other White House calamity in modern times. Yet the man who made it all possible, the "brains" behind the president who has become "radioactive" inside his own party, is toasted in the press as a political wise man.


Since when do the spoils go to the loser?


And do editors or producers at Newsweek or The Wall Street Journal or Fox News even broach the topic with Rove and ask him to pontificate, in print or on the air, about why the Republican Party that he helped shape for much of the last decade is now spiraling downward, and why Bush has made history as the most disliked president ever to sit in the Oval Office? Or do news executives not want to highlight to their readers and viewers the fact that their vaunted political expert, whose insights are advertised as being so valuable, actually helped design the GOP's modern-day Edsel?


It makes no sense, but I can't say I'm surprised by the lack of reality that surrounds Rove and the glowing reviews he's collecting from the press.



It's simply a continuation of the gooey, ongoing crush the Beltway press has had on Rove, who for years was credited in the media for building the Republican Party into a sleek, hardball-playing, election-winning vessel that could out-race the dawdling Democrat boat with ease. Rove, the press cheered, had literally cracked the code to winning elections, and poor Democrats were powerless to slow down his juggernaut.


Forget that Bush has suffered a historic plummet in the polls, bottoming out at a depth never before measured with modern polling. None of that matters, because as MSNBC's Norah O'Donnell proclaimed


just last week, Rove "is a brilliant political tactician."


That has been the divined media narrative on Rove for years, and nothing will change it. Not even the fact that Republican pros now publicly admit the number one challenge facing the party come November is Bush's dismal standing among most Americans. "As the head figure of the Republican brand, President Bush continues to flounder," Rep. Tom Davis (R-VA) wrote to his colleagues last week, stressing the political climate for Republicans "is the worst since Watergate."



The carnage come November could be historic, especially in the wake of the GOP's stunning Mississippi loss last week in the kind of congressional district Democrats don't even usually compete in, let alone win by eight points. The Republican Party spent more $1 million trying to salvage the race. As the Politico noted:

Many House GOP operatives are privately predicting that the party could easily lose up to 20 seats this fall.


Combined with the 30 seats that the GOP lost in 2006, that would leave the party facing a 70-vote deficit against Democrats in the House -- a state of powerlessness reminiscent of Republicans' long wilderness years in the 1960s and '70s.
And for that, all-star pundit Karl Rove deserves the blame. Why won't the media assign it?


Sweet Home Alabama



Meanwhile, the Alabama saga continues to gather momentum. The short version is that former Gov. Don Siegelman, a Democrat who was convicted on corruption charges in 2006, has accused Rove of engineering the prosecution through the Justice Department in order to make sure Siegelman could not run again for re-election. The politician also claims Rove helped steal the bitterly contested 2002 Alabama governor's election, which Siegelman lost by just 3,000 votes. Siegelman led as returns came in on Election Day and throughout the night. It was only when the ballot count from Baldwin County changed drastically from its initial tally that the Democrat lost.


Siegelman claims the incidents were part of a sinister, by-any-means-necessary effort by Rove to politicize the Justice Department to ensure a permanent Republican majority. ("I think this will make Watergate look like child's play," Siegelman insists.)


Backing up the heart of Siegelman's claim about the political prosecution is a longtime Republican attorney from Alabama named Dana Jill Simpson. She signed an affidavit last year and claimed she took part in a conference call with Alabama Republican operatives where Rove's role in Siegelman's prosecution was discussed.


Both Siegelman, currently released from prison on bond following an appeals court ruling, and Simpson have appeared on 60 Minutes to make their claims against Rove. (For more details on Siegelman, go here, here, or here.)



The Alabama story has been picked up by congressional Democrats, who are already investigating what role Rove played in the Bush administration's unprecedented firing of eight U.S. attorneys. Conyers, chairman of the Judiciary Committee, requested that Rove testify about Siegelman.


Despite the fact that he claims to have had absolutely no involvement in the matter, Rove has refused to testify. (Wouldn't that be the easiest type of testimony to give?) Instead, Rove offered to speak privately with committee staff off the record and with no transcript. The problem with that kind of arrangement, as Salon.com's Joe Conason wrote in 2007, is that the Valerie Plame leak investigation has already highlighted how "Rove is a proven liar who cannot be trusted to tell the truth even when he is under oath, unless and until he is directly threatened with the prospect of prison time."



Still, most the media have been too busy toasting


Rove the pundit -- they love his disarming on-air charm! -- to dwell on the looming controversy. (MSNBC's Dan Abrams and CBS' 60 Minutes have proven to be two key exceptions.) When The New York Times and The Washington Post ran lengthy, flattering profiles of Rove, totaling more than 2,000 words, the newspapers set aside just 68 words, combined, to reference the Siegelman story.



As for Rove's new media employers, I searched Nexis and could find only a single sentence published in Newsweek that referenced the allegations Siegelman has lodged against Rove. At Fox News, there have been, at best, just a handful of passing references that appeared in Nexis in the last month. And the Journal has devoted virtually no coverage to Siegelman's allegations against Rove. A search of the Factiva database turned up one reference in a story about an Alabama TV station blacking out the 60 Minutes broadcast in which Siegelman's claims were investigated.


The press is too busy employing -- and praising -- Rove to notice his mounting legal jeopardy. I can't help thinking that the media reaction would be much different if a Democratic adviser were at the center of attention. I'm thinking specifically about 1997, when longtime Clinton presidential adviser George Stephanopoulos left the administration and took a job at ABC News as a full-time pundit. What if just months after arriving at ABC News, it was alleged that Stephanopoulos had been at the center of an abuse-of-power scandal within the Clinton administration, as has Rove? Would the press have reacted the same way? Let's play that out a bit and see.


First, a quick history lesson in how the overcaffeinated political press operated during the Clinton '90s. Webster Hubbell was a longtime friend of Bill and Hillary Clinton's. Hubbell was named associate attorney general at the outset of Clinton's first term but had to step down when investigators found that while previously working at the Rose Law firm in Little Rock (where Hillary also worked), Hubbell had billed clients for work that was never performed and that Hubbell never reported the earnings to the IRS. Hubbell was sentenced to 21 months in prison for tax evasion.


Throughout the 1990s, Hubbell repeatedly clashed with independent counsel Kenneth Starr, who pressed the Clinton friend for more damning information about the ongoing Whitewater-related investigations. Over time, the press joined Starr's conspiratorial obsession that Hubbell was the key to unraveling the Clinton's criminal empire. The press went even further, suggesting the Clintons were somehow muzzling Hubbell (hush money?) from talking about their business dealings. In the end, Hubbell was of no use to Starr because he had no damning inside information about the Clintons.



Now, let's tweak the script just a bit to make the Hubbell story more analogous to the current Rove-Siegelman controversy and see what it would have looked like if Stephanopoulos, having just joined ABC News as a pundit, had been at the center of the allegations.


Let's say that while sitting inside the Cumberland Federal Correctional Institution in Maryland, Hubbell claimed that Stephanopoulos had served as his go-between with the Clintons as they discussed their conspiracy of silence. Then a Democratic attorney from Arkansas and longtime party loyalist released a signed affidavit in which she claimed to have overheard a conference call where party operatives made open reference to the fact that Stephanopoulos was applying pressure to the Justice Department to make sure it backed off any further Hubbell prosecutions, thereby ensuring Hubbell wouldn't become a political problem for the White House.


Imagine the Democratic whistle-blower then went on 60 Minutes and made her charges on national television. Then Hubbell was released on bond while a retrial was contemplated, and he went on 60 Minutes and claimed Stephanopoulos, in coordination with the Clinton White House and Justice Department, had tried to silence him. And then the Republican-controlled House demanded that Stephanopoulos testify under oath about the allegations, but Stephanopoulos refused to cooperate, thereby initiating possible contempt of Congress charges.


If all of that took place, do you think A) ABC News would have kept Stephanopoulos on the air as a political pundit, the way Fox News, Newsweek, and


The Wall Street Journal have kept Rove on their payrolls? B) ABC News would have essentially boycotted reporting on Hubbell's allegations, the way Fox News, Newsweek, and the Journal have mostly stayed clear of Rove's Siegelman mess? And/or C) The Washington Post and The New York Times would have published glowing reviews about what an insightful pundit Stephanopoulos had turned out to be, while basically ignoring the explosive allegations made by Hubbell and the Democratic attorney in Arkansas?



The media's double standard seems obvious.


To recap: The Siegelman saga gains momentum while the GOP disintegrates, and Karl Rove continues to harvest media kudos as a masterful political tactician.


Which one of those three just doesn't belong?

A senior fellow at Media Matters for America, and a former senior writer for Salon, Boehlert's first book, "Lapdogs: How The Press Rolled Over for Bush," was published in May. He can be reached at eboehlert@aol.com

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It's just entertainment!
Posted by: carbon-based on May 22, 2008 6:37 PM   
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Roves pundit job is not all that surprising.. it's entertainment..you dont have to say anything nice or enjoy the show, just keep talking about it or watching it... Rove draws a crowd and in most respects knows how the political process works better than most.

As for the repubs loss in Miss and La. not too much can be read into that. These weren't typical deomcrats. They are really repubs in democrats clothing..They just happened to be great candidates and the voting public saw that..They are pro gun, pro life, pro American..everything the typical North East/San Francisco looney limo liberal isnt!

Hopefully Americans are coming to the realization that party doesn't matter much any more. As a conservative repub, I'm voting for Obama, not for what he knows or his experience, which isnt much.. it's more for the person.. Isnt it about time America wake up and look past the party!

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Rove and his ilk should have been punished a long time ago.
Posted by: maxpayne on May 23, 2008 5:06 AM   
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At least that's what would have happened if he weren't Republican. Pathetic though that this Democratic "majority" won't lift a finger to punish the rightwing lunatics. No wonder America needs to ABOLISH both parties at this rate !

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Citizens Arrest of Karl Rove if Mukasey violates Constitution..!
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on May 23, 2008 5:21 AM   
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If our a$$-hole criminal traitor Attorney General Mukasey refuses to honor the subpoenas and contempt charges and indictments of the Congress than it is time for local attorney generals and district attorneys to decide if they are Constitutional entities and will hand down arrest warrants locally for one Karl Rove here in New York, or are renegade Tory anti-Constitutional fascists aligned with the Federalist Society as is this disgrace Mukasey..

This would also allow for Citizens Arrest of Karl Rove so he can be handed over to a proper venue for delivery before and bar of Justice and our Congress for his Crimes Against These United States and it's People..!

Simple as that..

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Watch out
Posted by: Last Chance on May 23, 2008 5:36 AM   
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when there are only 2 rats left on Bush & Cheney's sinking ship of lies. Cornered rats are dangerous, they might even bomb Iran and launch WW3 to save themselves from further humiliation(!) I sooooo regret they have not been impeached!!!!

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Remember the day....
Posted by: Tom Degan on May 23, 2008 6:43 AM   
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when Newsweek was published by Phil Grahamm and Ben Bradlee (that would be, the great Ben Bradlee) was its editor? Ah, those were the days! How far the mighty have fallen! I wouldn't give you two cents for Newsweek today.

You can trace that magazine's demise to the moment Katherine Grahamm died a number of years ago. The very fact that a disgusting little ideological pervert such as Karl Rove is actually being paid by that publication as a political commentator is just too funny for words! Whom in their right mind can even take Newsweek seriously these days? Not me.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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Rove Bots vs. America
Posted by: TFYQA on May 23, 2008 7:16 AM   
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America will always be filled with half-clever hucksters who look for ways to live the fat life off the ignorance and loneliness of country rubes. – Matt Taibbi

Rove & cloned-bots... is all it took ! America's Republic & constitution was so fragile that it crumbled under the guise of this Mad Cult of High-Testosterene, Arrogant Fools Who Strong-Armed America Into a Catastrophe ! Is this how the greatest democratic exercise in history will be terminated ?

The Military is Nowhere; the Press is Nowhere; the Congress is Nowhere...Is there a limit to the damage this executive branch can inflict to the USA ? Where is everybody indeed !

At least Gore Vidal is still here !
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Ignorance is the downfall of all cultures and we are about to hit bottom.

EXECUTIVE RESUME
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I like Rove right where he is
Posted by: surfreality on May 23, 2008 7:26 AM   
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out in the open, where everybody can keep an eye on him. It's good too, that he is pontificating on this, that and the other. He is part of the national discussion as it should be because he has a lot to answer for and sooner or later he will not be able to duck the hard questions. Sooner or later someone will have the balls to put him on the witness stand and he'll have to talk. Let the great unraveling begin.
Then his employers in the media will have 2 stories: how one of their own is a criminal and how they enabled him.

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The media's double standard seems obvious.
Posted by: Lauren on May 23, 2008 7:32 AM   
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I was really surprised when after he had to leave his position at the White House (corruption scandal) he got not just a job, but multiple plum jobs, in major media outlets. That tells us a lot, about them.

Wow. The guy is tied to treason and they embrace him? It says a lot about the media and the people who work there. It is a conspiracy for treason, they DO know that. Why would they embrace him? They are all going to go down together.

If it was my paper, magazine, radio or TV show, I'd throw him over board and talk about the crimes of this administration, distance myself. The fact they don't means they are in it with him. I bet it is connected to drugs, dealing that is.

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What's the big deal? Ollie North has had his own shows and collumns for years
Posted by: Rune on May 23, 2008 7:51 AM   
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Oliver North is a criminal who was convicted for his involvement with selling arms to terrorists, funneling money to more terrorists (and later it was revealed he augmented the supply of money by setting up cocaine sales, too). Did that stop the right wing media from hailing him as a hero and putting him on a soap box? No, not at all. And once he got off on a legal technicality, they acted as if his crimes against the constitution and the most basic principles of justice and civility never happened. Why should Fox worry about any of this? Newsweek is little better.

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rakshasa
Posted by: sirios on May 23, 2008 8:46 AM   
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Cracked the code to winning elections? How about cracked the code to stealing elections or eliminating any code of civil conduct. Once again criminal behavoir gets rewarded with a bonus in the form of employment at "you're an apathetic narcoleptic if you believe this s%#t news room". Rove and his heartless buddies should be sent to the moon, except the USA would get cited for illegal dumping of toxic waste.

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Bobby Decker AKA THE ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE PURPLERAIN MAN
Posted by: Bobby Decker on May 23, 2008 8:47 AM   
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" ID LOVE TO BE THE FLY ON THE WALL WHEN THEY ALL { THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY & ASSORTED NEO CON
STOOGES THE CLINTONS AND ALL THEIR DLC WEASSELS
AND THEIR CORPORATE OWNED MULTIMEDIA MILLIONARE
SHILLS } GET TOGETHER AND HAVE A GOOD LAFF OVER HOW THERE CONSTANTLY ABLE TO BAMBOZZLE ALL OF THE RUBES IN AMERICA !

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The Media is a Bad Joke
Posted by: Southern Gal on May 23, 2008 9:01 AM   
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The media does have a tendency to overlook or under-report bad things about their cherished darlings. The media has little to do with real news and real issues. It's all about entertainment and corporate dollars and powerful friends.

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Don't Tase me Bro..!
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on May 23, 2008 9:13 AM   
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Tase Rove's ass, duck tape him and present him to Congress as a criminal he is.."Citizens Arrest Citizens Arrest.."

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Rove Protégé May Dig for Dirt on Obama
Posted by: ThePublicRecord on May 23, 2008 9:38 AM   
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http://www.pubrecord.org

Rove Protégé May Dig for Dirt on Obama

The Public Record
May 23, 2008

Timothy Griffin, a central figure in the U.S. Attorney scandal and a protégé of Republican political guru Karl Rove, reportedly has been hired to dig up dirt on likely Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

FirstRead, a political Web site of NBC News, cited a Republican source as confirming that Griffin was being brought onboard by the Republican National Committee to handle opposition research on Obama.

Griffin hung up on me when I contacted him at his home and asked him to comment about the report. An RNC aide told me he could neither “confirm nor deny the report.”

Griffin’s return to the RNC as an opposition researcher – a post he held during the Bush-Cheney campaigns – would seem to mark a return to a “dirty tricks” style of campaigning that John McCain has vowed to avoid.

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The cover of next month's TIME magazine?
Posted by: fanny666 on May 23, 2008 11:20 AM   
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One can only dream...

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Revolting
Posted by: willymack on May 23, 2008 12:12 PM   
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Every time I think I've matured to the point of dignified urbanity, bush comes on the air and opens his lying mouth. I've gotten to the point where I have to turn off the TV or change channels so I won't go into a fit of apoplexy. Oh, maybe it's not that bad, but the sorry excuse for a human being impersonating our president makes my skin crawl. Same with his enablers and handlers, including cheney, and especially rove. That pasty-faced pile of dung seems to bring out the worst in me. He's the personification of everything that's wrong with our moral compass, divisiveness, and lack of scruples everywhere one looks. How I'd love to see him shackled and handcuffed! His complete and insouciant lack of regard for our laws, as he refuses repeated summonses to appear before Congress to testify under oath is infuriating, and a reminder of the lawless nature of this regime, which arrogantly thumbs its nose at Congress and the American people, daring us to "do something about it".

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cunhvn
Posted by: intheknow on May 23, 2008 12:52 PM   
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As for FOX handling it...Ollie North...need I say more?

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Spineless
Posted by: reinaldok on May 23, 2008 10:23 PM   
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Does anyone really think that the demos will do anything about the disgusting Rove episode?
It will be the same dilly-dally mumbo jumbo that we all seem to have gotten used to. Right now there is an almost absurd situation going on in South Florida. The demo congresswoman from Fort Lauderdale, Ms. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz refuses to take up a position against the three Cuban-American repub reps from Miami. The three are 110% Bush lovers. She says they are her friends. This has caused quite a stir in Miami among the more progressive groups, but as is quite obvious, has not gotten much mileage in the MSM. I have contacted the Florida Demos about this. Their response would have made the famous Cantiflas or Danny Kaye quite proud. Pure doble-speak. Interesting to note that a lady named N. Pelosi was recently in Miami. Who do you think accompanied her on her brief tour of the area? Ms. Wasserman, of course.
Do something about Rove and pals - Forget it.

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article lost me with Steph. analogy
Posted by: whealeydj on May 24, 2008 1:15 AM   
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The article correctly points out why media is biased by hiring and praising Rove. If indicted or questioned by Congress, we should suggest his employers lay him off. it may be because I am tired but the Stephanapoulos webb hubbell analogy just seemed too convoluted and long to make the author's point.

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Swine Daddy Rove Carried the Show
Posted by: jreal on May 25, 2008 6:03 PM   
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It's late 2001 and Fox News is on the rise. The Twin Towers have fallen and Rupert is raking it in. Boom boom boom and the feeds keep moving. The nation is emotionally paralyzed and looking for hope... This is Karl Rove's violin. The formula of the music - Control = Power = Money = More Control = More Power = More Money...

The Fox News Mantra is the choir to Rove's lead. The Wall Street Journal is the puppeteer for the show, moving to Karl's every wretched note. 'Swine on Broadway.'

Oh you say the economy is in the crapper and the party that rove built (as we know this is a completely renewed version of the already swine infested party of old), is suffocating in its own feces.

First off, you don't trust swine, and you certainly don't trust a fox. The party has sold its soul and it's a fight for the last bone in a pit of crap. But the choir can't turn its back on its daddy. Daddy Karl made the show and he made em' rich.

TWIN TOWERS DOWN, AND BLACKWATER'S IN YOUR WIFE'S NEW NIGHT-GOWN.

The show was fantastic, well put and well done.

THREE THOUSAND DEAD, AND THE WHOLE DAMNED INDUSTRY IS IN YOUR BED.

Any minor mishaps had a smooth recovery. All the players in lockstep. Some of the audience was even hipnotized into its participation; there brains were turned to mush, and forever their pawn. "1984" was there, but was scared shitless hiding in the bathroom.

The show was beautiful. The minds of many were sapped, and culture was vanished for the replacement of lockstep corporate monolithes with their flags waving over the carcases of 3000.

The drunkennes would eventually dissipate, leaving many confused, and wondering how they got where they were. Many would be left to defend their horrible drunken actions in a dispicable manner rather than accept that their minds were stolen and replaced with a monolithic banner. They were turned to dogs as they bark in their defense. The collar marks around their necks are still visible for many others to see and know... "They lost their soul at the show". And just listening to them bark, it doesn't take long to figure out how short a leash that Karl and the rest of the "Swine on Broadway" gave this poor muttant.

So you say the show has a sad ending? Maybe so, but the players are now out on the town toasting to a well scripted play.

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indict war criminals
Posted by: indict war criminals on May 26, 2008 10:23 AM   
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I challenge everybody who has a subscription to Newsweek or the Wall Street Journal to cancel it to send a message. Your subscription dollars are helping to pay Rove's salary. Hasn't he done enough for this country already? How do you spell WAR CRIMINAL.

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It's just entertainment!
Posted by: carbon-based on May 22, 2008 6:37 PM   
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Roves pundit job is not all that surprising.. it's entertainment..you dont have to say anything nice or enjoy the show, just keep talking about it or watching it... Rove draws a crowd and in most respects knows how the political process works better than most.

As for the repubs loss in Miss and La. not too much can be read into that. These weren't typical deomcrats. They are really repubs in democrats clothing..They just happened to be great candidates and the voting public saw that..They are pro gun, pro life, pro American..everything the typical North East/San Francisco looney limo liberal isnt!

Hopefully Americans are coming to the realization that party doesn't matter much any more. As a conservative repub, I'm voting for Obama, not for what he knows or his experience, which isnt much.. it's more for the person.. Isnt it about time America wake up and look past the party!

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Rove and his ilk should have been punished a long time ago.
Posted by: maxpayne on May 23, 2008 5:06 AM   
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At least that's what would have happened if he weren't Republican. Pathetic though that this Democratic "majority" won't lift a finger to punish the rightwing lunatics. No wonder America needs to ABOLISH both parties at this rate !

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Citizens Arrest of Karl Rove if Mukasey violates Constitution..!
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on May 23, 2008 5:21 AM   
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If our a$$-hole criminal traitor Attorney General Mukasey refuses to honor the subpoenas and contempt charges and indictments of the Congress than it is time for local attorney generals and district attorneys to decide if they are Constitutional entities and will hand down arrest warrants locally for one Karl Rove here in New York, or are renegade Tory anti-Constitutional fascists aligned with the Federalist Society as is this disgrace Mukasey..

This would also allow for Citizens Arrest of Karl Rove so he can be handed over to a proper venue for delivery before and bar of Justice and our Congress for his Crimes Against These United States and it's People..!

Simple as that..

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Watch out
Posted by: Last Chance on May 23, 2008 5:36 AM   
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when there are only 2 rats left on Bush & Cheney's sinking ship of lies. Cornered rats are dangerous, they might even bomb Iran and launch WW3 to save themselves from further humiliation(!) I sooooo regret they have not been impeached!!!!

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Remember the day....
Posted by: Tom Degan on May 23, 2008 6:43 AM   
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when Newsweek was published by Phil Grahamm and Ben Bradlee (that would be, the great Ben Bradlee) was its editor? Ah, those were the days! How far the mighty have fallen! I wouldn't give you two cents for Newsweek today.

You can trace that magazine's demise to the moment Katherine Grahamm died a number of years ago. The very fact that a disgusting little ideological pervert such as Karl Rove is actually being paid by that publication as a political commentator is just too funny for words! Whom in their right mind can even take Newsweek seriously these days? Not me.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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Rove Bots vs. America
Posted by: TFYQA on May 23, 2008 7:16 AM   
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America will always be filled with half-clever hucksters who look for ways to live the fat life off the ignorance and loneliness of country rubes. – Matt Taibbi

Rove & cloned-bots... is all it took ! America's Republic & constitution was so fragile that it crumbled under the guise of this Mad Cult of High-Testosterene, Arrogant Fools Who Strong-Armed America Into a Catastrophe ! Is this how the greatest democratic exercise in history will be terminated ?

The Military is Nowhere; the Press is Nowhere; the Congress is Nowhere...Is there a limit to the damage this executive branch can inflict to the USA ? Where is everybody indeed !

At least Gore Vidal is still here !
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Ignorance is the downfall of all cultures and we are about to hit bottom.

EXECUTIVE RESUME
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I like Rove right where he is
Posted by: surfreality on May 23, 2008 7:26 AM   
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out in the open, where everybody can keep an eye on him. It's good too, that he is pontificating on this, that and the other. He is part of the national discussion as it should be because he has a lot to answer for and sooner or later he will not be able to duck the hard questions. Sooner or later someone will have the balls to put him on the witness stand and he'll have to talk. Let the great unraveling begin.
Then his employers in the media will have 2 stories: how one of their own is a criminal and how they enabled him.

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The media's double standard seems obvious.
Posted by: Lauren on May 23, 2008 7:32 AM   
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I was really surprised when after he had to leave his position at the White House (corruption scandal) he got not just a job, but multiple plum jobs, in major media outlets. That tells us a lot, about them.

Wow. The guy is tied to treason and they embrace him? It says a lot about the media and the people who work there. It is a conspiracy for treason, they DO know that. Why would they embrace him? They are all going to go down together.

If it was my paper, magazine, radio or TV show, I'd throw him over board and talk about the crimes of this administration, distance myself. The fact they don't means they are in it with him. I bet it is connected to drugs, dealing that is.

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What's the big deal? Ollie North has had his own shows and collumns for years
Posted by: Rune on May 23, 2008 7:51 AM   
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Oliver North is a criminal who was convicted for his involvement with selling arms to terrorists, funneling money to more terrorists (and later it was revealed he augmented the supply of money by setting up cocaine sales, too). Did that stop the right wing media from hailing him as a hero and putting him on a soap box? No, not at all. And once he got off on a legal technicality, they acted as if his crimes against the constitution and the most basic principles of justice and civility never happened. Why should Fox worry about any of this? Newsweek is little better.

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rakshasa
Posted by: sirios on May 23, 2008 8:46 AM   
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Cracked the code to winning elections? How about cracked the code to stealing elections or eliminating any code of civil conduct. Once again criminal behavoir gets rewarded with a bonus in the form of employment at "you're an apathetic narcoleptic if you believe this s%#t news room". Rove and his heartless buddies should be sent to the moon, except the USA would get cited for illegal dumping of toxic waste.

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Bobby Decker AKA THE ARTIST FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE PURPLERAIN MAN
Posted by: Bobby Decker on May 23, 2008 8:47 AM   
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" ID LOVE TO BE THE FLY ON THE WALL WHEN THEY ALL { THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY & ASSORTED NEO CON
STOOGES THE CLINTONS AND ALL THEIR DLC WEASSELS
AND THEIR CORPORATE OWNED MULTIMEDIA MILLIONARE
SHILLS } GET TOGETHER AND HAVE A GOOD LAFF OVER HOW THERE CONSTANTLY ABLE TO BAMBOZZLE ALL OF THE RUBES IN AMERICA !

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The Media is a Bad Joke
Posted by: Southern Gal on May 23, 2008 9:01 AM   
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The media does have a tendency to overlook or under-report bad things about their cherished darlings. The media has little to do with real news and real issues. It's all about entertainment and corporate dollars and powerful friends.

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Don't Tase me Bro..!
Posted by: TJ-stars4peace on May 23, 2008 9:13 AM   
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Tase Rove's ass, duck tape him and present him to Congress as a criminal he is.."Citizens Arrest Citizens Arrest.."

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Rove Protégé May Dig for Dirt on Obama
Posted by: ThePublicRecord on May 23, 2008 9:38 AM   
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http://www.pubrecord.org

Rove Protégé May Dig for Dirt on Obama

The Public Record
May 23, 2008

Timothy Griffin, a central figure in the U.S. Attorney scandal and a protégé of Republican political guru Karl Rove, reportedly has been hired to dig up dirt on likely Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama.

FirstRead, a political Web site of NBC News, cited a Republican source as confirming that Griffin was being brought onboard by the Republican National Committee to handle opposition research on Obama.

Griffin hung up on me when I contacted him at his home and asked him to comment about the report. An RNC aide told me he could neither “confirm nor deny the report.”

Griffin’s return to the RNC as an opposition researcher – a post he held during the Bush-Cheney campaigns – would seem to mark a return to a “dirty tricks” style of campaigning that John McCain has vowed to avoid.

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The cover of next month's TIME magazine?
Posted by: fanny666 on May 23, 2008 11:20 AM   
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One can only dream...

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Revolting
Posted by: willymack on May 23, 2008 12:12 PM   
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Every time I think I've matured to the point of dignified urbanity, bush comes on the air and opens his lying mouth. I've gotten to the point where I have to turn off the TV or change channels so I won't go into a fit of apoplexy. Oh, maybe it's not that bad, but the sorry excuse for a human being impersonating our president makes my skin crawl. Same with his enablers and handlers, including cheney, and especially rove. That pasty-faced pile of dung seems to bring out the worst in me. He's the personification of everything that's wrong with our moral compass, divisiveness, and lack of scruples everywhere one looks. How I'd love to see him shackled and handcuffed! His complete and insouciant lack of regard for our laws, as he refuses repeated summonses to appear before Congress to testify under oath is infuriating, and a reminder of the lawless nature of this regime, which arrogantly thumbs its nose at Congress and the American people, daring us to "do something about it".

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cunhvn
Posted by: intheknow on May 23, 2008 12:52 PM   
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As for FOX handling it...Ollie North...need I say more?

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Spineless
Posted by: reinaldok on May 23, 2008 10:23 PM   
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Does anyone really think that the demos will do anything about the disgusting Rove episode?
It will be the same dilly-dally mumbo jumbo that we all seem to have gotten used to. Right now there is an almost absurd situation going on in South Florida. The demo congresswoman from Fort Lauderdale, Ms. Debbie Wasserman-Schultz refuses to take up a position against the three Cuban-American repub reps from Miami. The three are 110% Bush lovers. She says they are her friends. This has caused quite a stir in Miami among the more progressive groups, but as is quite obvious, has not gotten much mileage in the MSM. I have contacted the Florida Demos about this. Their response would have made the famous Cantiflas or Danny Kaye quite proud. Pure doble-speak. Interesting to note that a lady named N. Pelosi was recently in Miami. Who do you think accompanied her on her brief tour of the area? Ms. Wasserman, of course.
Do something about Rove and pals - Forget it.

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article lost me with Steph. analogy
Posted by: whealeydj on May 24, 2008 1:15 AM   
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The article correctly points out why media is biased by hiring and praising Rove. If indicted or questioned by Congress, we should suggest his employers lay him off. it may be because I am tired but the Stephanapoulos webb hubbell analogy just seemed too convoluted and long to make the author's point.

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Swine Daddy Rove Carried the Show
Posted by: jreal on May 25, 2008 6:03 PM   
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It's late 2001 and Fox News is on the rise. The Twin Towers have fallen and Rupert is raking it in. Boom boom boom and the feeds keep moving. The nation is emotionally paralyzed and looking for hope... This is Karl Rove's violin. The formula of the music - Control = Power = Money = More Control = More Power = More Money...

The Fox News Mantra is the choir to Rove's lead. The Wall Street Journal is the puppeteer for the show, moving to Karl's every wretched note. 'Swine on Broadway.'

Oh you say the economy is in the crapper and the party that rove built (as we know this is a completely renewed version of the already swine infested party of old), is suffocating in its own feces.

First off, you don't trust swine, and you certainly don't trust a fox. The party has sold its soul and it's a fight for the last bone in a pit of crap. But the choir can't turn its back on its daddy. Daddy Karl made the show and he made em' rich.

TWIN TOWERS DOWN, AND BLACKWATER'S IN YOUR WIFE'S NEW NIGHT-GOWN.

The show was fantastic, well put and well done.

THREE THOUSAND DEAD, AND THE WHOLE DAMNED INDUSTRY IS IN YOUR BED.

Any minor mishaps had a smooth recovery. All the players in lockstep. Some of the audience was even hipnotized into its participation; there brains were turned to mush, and forever their pawn. "1984" was there, but was scared shitless hiding in the bathroom.

The show was beautiful. The minds of many were sapped, and culture was vanished for the replacement of lockstep corporate monolithes with their flags waving over the carcases of 3000.

The drunkennes would eventually dissipate, leaving many confused, and wondering how they got where they were. Many would be left to defend their horrible drunken actions in a dispicable manner rather than accept that their minds were stolen and replaced with a monolithic banner. They were turned to dogs as they bark in their defense. The collar marks around their necks are still visible for many others to see and know... "They lost their soul at the show". And just listening to them bark, it doesn't take long to figure out how short a leash that Karl and the rest of the "Swine on Broadway" gave this poor muttant.

So you say the show has a sad ending? Maybe so, but the players are now out on the town toasting to a well scripted play.

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indict war criminals
Posted by: indict war criminals on May 26, 2008 10:23 AM   
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I challenge everybody who has a subscription to Newsweek or the Wall Street Journal to cancel it to send a message. Your subscription dollars are helping to pay Rove's salary. Hasn't he done enough for this country already? How do you spell WAR CRIMINAL.

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