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Why Is Coke Glamorous and Heroin Scary? Because of Halfwits Like Nikki Sixx
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Bad books can still be important. This one, which is so bad it's unintentionally funny, still represents an epochal cultural moment: the final trickle-down of a formerly elitist narrative invented by Lord Byron, the wildly talented English 18th century poet, into a sleazy plotline used and abused by a man representing the very bottom of the demographic pyramid -- Nikki Sixx, bass guitarist of '80s rock band Mötley Crüe.
George Gordon, Lord Byron (1788-1824), was, among other things, the greatest English poet of the past two centuries, recognized as such everywhere except England and America. He was also the first and finest incarnation of the self-destructive superstar. In fact, stardom didn't just happen; it was invented by Byron. He showed the rest of the world how to be a star -- the whole storyline of early fame, wild decadence, bitter exile and a lonely, heroic death. Byron's death came in Greece, where he ended up after a lifetime of fleeing southward and eastward from his home in what he scornfully called "the moral North." Greece was in rebellion against the Ottoman Turks, and Byron died of fever while funding, training and trying to negotiate consensus among the rebel factions.
It didn't take long for that genuinely heroic death to be reduced to its lowest common denominator: "live fast, die young and leave a beautiful corpse." By our time, it's pretty much all you have to do -- as long as you are famous when you die. That goes without saying; there's no love lost when an anonymous loser dies, but if a celebrity dies young and pretty, the whole culture explodes in masturbatory frenzy officially presented as "grief."
Nikki Sixx, of course, may never have heard of Byron. The Byronic story came to him through more recent versions. There's a whole subgenre of Bohemian-druggie tales to borrow from, and Nikki (or his ghostwriter) borrows freely, starting with his title, a clear echo of The Basketball Diaries, Jim Carroll's 1987 record of his descent from star jock to hopeless junky. Carroll's book itself represented a clear point on the graph by which this elitist tale makes its way down toward the Wal-Mart crowd: Carroll was a protege/mascot of the NYC Beat scene whose greatest practicioner, William Burroughs, wrote the best American versions of druggie-in-purgatory, including Junkie (1953), which our own Nikki Sixx cites approvingly. Nikki sees it as his job to take this often-abused plotline further down the pop parade to where it has never gone before, and probably never should have gone at all: hair metal. And he manages to come back alive, in case you were worried.
Mötley Crüe is a band most people old enough to remember have tried hard to forget. Mötley was huge in the mid-1980s. I didn't realize how big until I read the diary entry in which Nikki whines that his manager sent his latest paycheck to his home while he was on tour. The check is for $650,000. I'd bet that that's more than really talented American bands of the 1980s like Husker Du made in their entire career.
The Mötley Crüe era was of course a low point in pop history. Nikki actually calls himself "a dreg." I've never heard that word used in the singular before, but it fits. This guy is the ultimate dreg. He does decadence strictly by the numbers. He even considers killing his girlfriend, because after all, the Sex Pistols' Sid Vicious killed his girlfriend. And there's no pleasure in it. Part of that is the big lie in American culture that celebrity decadence always arises from and falls back into some private "pain." But Nikki really doesn't seem to like sex that much. The only part that he really seems to enjoy is the drugs, and since he's incapable of effective description, you have to infer his pleasure from the sheer doggedness with which he gets high.
And his drug stories are full of lies and bathos. The most interesting lie is the deflection of blame to heroin, when it's clear that Nikki was never a junky. He's a cokehead, a classic L.A. white-trash cokehead. So why is this called The Heroin Diaries? Because Nikki's publisher realized cocaine is too sleazy and too 1970s to interest anybody. Heroin, which only entered the middle-class California druggie's repertoire in the 1980s, still retains some of its exotic, forbidden appeal.
Occasionally he slips up, admitting that he does much more coke than smack, admitting at one point, "I'm not having [my dealer] bring smack very often but my coke intake is up 1,000%." And since Nikki's typical binge ends in paranoia, with our hero locked in the walk-in closet of his mansion hearing voices outside, it's clear that it's the coke, not the smack, messing with him.
Yet heroin that gets the blame when Nikki's retarded band mates discuss his descent to what Tommy Lee calls "a dark fucking place." If you've spent any time in L.A. you've probably met guys like this. For them, cocaine is simply part of a normal healthy diet, whereas heroin is just plain evil. Odd, because among intelligent druggies opiates get a lot of respect, while coke is simply despised. For serious drug people there are two ways to go: up with some variety of speed, or down with some kind of opiate. Coke is scorned as a short-acting verbal emetic, a silly drug for moneyed trash. The only intellectuals who took it seriously were Freud and Sherlock Holmes -- one a half-baked intellectual who masqueraded his literary criticism as therapy, postponing effective treatment for schizophrenia and depression by generations, the other an apotheosized peeping tom, who of course never really existed. Indeed, both were nasty voyeurs; perhaps that's a feature of coke addiction too.
Opiates, by contrast, have been the drug of choice for an astonishing number of the really talented people of the last few centuries: Coleridge, de Quincy, Poe, Donald Goines, Jean Cocteau, William Burroughs, Jimi Hendrix. And prescription opiates are still the choice of L.A.'s upper class, which is why when one of the stars is arrested, their glove compartments are always full of perfectly legal percodan or Demerol. (If you're a star, you see, you can get special prescriptions which are issued after your arrest but dated weeks before.)
Of course injected street heroin has a terrible potential for fatal overdoses, because you don't know the purity of the dose until it's already in your bloodstream. What no one seems to realize is that this too is a side effect of Prohibition. When you make a drug illegal, you are encouraging smugglers to import it in the most concentrated, potent form available, then charge insanely high prices for infinitesmal amounts. In the case of heroin, these quantities are so tiny that the drug must be injected to be effective. Without Prohibition, quantity and content would be clear, and people would be free to smoke opium in legal dens. In such conditions, accidental overdoses are rare. Conversely, in countries like Iran which prohibit that allegedly safe, mainstream drug, alcohol, many users die or go blind from ingesting street booze laced with the usual variety of poisons. Prohibition kills far more people than "drugs."
Alas, even educated Americans are too intimidated to point this out. In a provincial, Puritan society like ours, nothing is worse than your neighbors' disapproval, and speaking up against the drug laws can get you whispered about. And if Nikki's betters won't speak out honestly on the topic, we can hardly expect him and his idiot hessian friends to get it. So naturally, they're all eager to blame heroin, "the worst drug in the world." They're also in love with its notoriety -- hence the book's title.
A roadie explains that at first, nobody worried because everyone thought Nikki, like his hair twin Tommy Lee, "was just snorting coke and drinking." And after all, mixing cocaine with a fifth of Jack Daniels never hurt anybody. It's amazing how self-righteous these scum can get, as when a friend of Nikki's protests, "I used to do loads of pot and coke with Nikki, but I'd never do heroin." That's purity, huh? Perhaps the worst thing about coke is that it makes idiots think they're eloquent. They spew clichés, convinced they're the soul of wit. And they know, by now, exactly how to play the doomed celebrity. Every one of us, every single consumer/victim of American culture, shifts easily to celebrity-speak. You see this in interviews with momentarily famous nonentities who refer to themselves in the third person and clearly imagine themselves as the protagonists of a tragic, heroic narrative.
The trouble is that Mötley Crüe is not the stuff of tragedy. It's the stuff of Spinal Tap, and in fact this book reads like Hunter Thompson rewritten by Nigel Tufnel. Every rock cliché you ever heard can be found in its pages, even "Welcome to my nightmare." But Nikki and the friends interviewed for their recollections of his crisis are hopeless at depicting the nightmare, taking refuge in stale adjectives like "dark" and "pain." Tommy Lee explains that drugs "led us to this really dark fucking place," then, realizing he's onto a good adjectival thing, amplifies his remarks, stating that said place was, in fact, "dark as fuck."
This darkness amounts to shameless plagiarism of the works of Hunter Thompson, right down to the imitation-Ralph Steadman graphics splattered across this book's 400 glossy magazine-style pages. Except that Thompson was one of the funniest and least boastful druggies who ever wrote, while The Heroin Diaries are simply Spinal Tap without the jokes.
There isn't even any suspense or risk involved in all the drugging, because Mötley Crüe are stars, and stars are not subject to the drug laws. This is shown conclusively when a couple of Chicago cops come into Mötley Crüe's dressing room and see the band snorting lines off a mirror. Not only do the cops not arrest them but they give the boys their cards and tell them to call if any other cops give them trouble. Try that if you're not famous, and you'll have a very different experience.
So nothing much happens, until the overdose, and that's a long time coming. For the most part, Nikki sits in his mansion sulking in the dark. Burroughs made a good story out of sitting in the dark doing drugs, but Burroughs had two things Nikki lacks: a brain and a sense of humor. Thompson, a speedfreak rather than a junky, went out and did things while hideously twisted. Either way can work, but Nikki's catalogues of coke consumed in a closet are very dull.
I'm not using "dull" in the disingenuous way a lot of prudish reviewers do, using that word when they mean "offensive." Nikki's decadence isn't offensive, it's just secondhand. His prose style, yes -- that's offensive. To paraphrase Tommy Lee, it's bad as fuck. This book was supposedly co-written by a British rock journalist, but this fool, one Ian Gittins, can't write either. Let's play count-the-clichés in this passage from Ian's "Introduction," in which he explains his work on the book:
"[W]e were able to fill in the black holes and piece together the story of a man who, at the beating heart of an over-the-top rock band, was profoundly falling apart at the seams." Well, everybody knows that black holes are tough on seams, even if you're wearing leather pants. Ian is so clueless he can't tell the difference between the idiom of 1990's Britain and1980's L.A. Here's a quick tip, Ian: 1980s L.A. cokeheads didn't use "gear" to mean drugs.
Ah, drugs; these stories of "pain" and redemption do keep circling around the "black hole" of drugs, And hardly anyone will say the simple truth that people do drugs because drugs are fun. Whenever I hear about another celebrity's "battle with drugs," I have to laugh. What's the battle -- getting enough of them? Price dispute?
If somebody like Nikki could come out and say, "I did a lot of drugs and had a wonderful time!" he could redeem himself. That wouldn't take much talent or brains, just a little honesty. But there's no honesty here. Byron was blunt about why he left "the moral North" to die fighting in Greece; he was driven out by the moral disapproval of his own people:
When a man hath no freedom to fight for at home,
Let him combat for that of his neighbors;
Let him think of the glory of Greece and of Rome,
And get knock'd on the head for his labors.
Byron died without finding God or AA's "higher power" or groveling to the sanctimonious majority back home. In our time, perhaps only Hunter Thompson showed that sort of lifelong heretical courage. It certainly can't be found in Nikki's tale, which doggedly follows the Protestant tale of the Saved Sinner.
The elements of the story are simple: the hero has to dive deep into sin. This part of the story is always bragging disguised as confession: "My sins are bigger and gaudier than your sins." The gaudier and noisier the sin, the better. Nikki has done his best to check this item off the list, God knows. The sinner must then crash and burn, hitting bottom. Nikki fulfills this requirement on page 384. Anybody else could have managed it much sooner, but then that's the point: Byron's Progress has touched down on the very bottom of the demographic sea. So, naturally, God comes in when the lights go out, right there on page 384. Before he can even turn blue properly, Nikki is visited by Grace -- Grace the religious epiphany, not the groupie of the same name. His unintentionally hilarious reaction to the fact that he's been literally, physically saved is, "Maybe there is a God."
Many an observer would have come to the opposite conclusion: Cobain kills himself and Nikki lives? There is no god.
Nikki survives simply because he's famous; he's surrounded by adoring, masochistic women, one of whom revives him. Without the fame and fortune, not only would he have died but his "pain" would interest no one at all. Suffering served up without these condiments is available all around you; just look into the cars stopped beside you at the next red light. But how many bestsellers do you see about the suffering of, say, a single mom working at Wal-Mart in Houston with chronic back pain and a broken air conditioner? That's true suffering. That's Hell on earth. But nobody wants to know about it. Nikki's suffering, by contrast, has spent a long time on Amazon's top thousand sellers.
The appeal of rock-star suffering is simple: it's not suffering at all. Here's an example of what Nikki calls suffering. Keep in mind that the ostensible point of this anecdote is to show how lonely our star is, deep inside:
"I've been thinking about last Christmas Eve when I picked up that girl in a strip club, brought her back here [to his mansion] on my bike, took her home the next day, then had Christmas dinner all by myself at McDonald's. I haven't made much progress I see."If that's suffering, then there are millions of horny selfish guys who would love to suffer like that.
The only really radical, interesting thing a rock star could say would be what people dread hearing: "Ha ha, I'm famous and you're nobody! I drink your adulation like blood! You send me all your love and money and I give you nothing! And I'm the happiest man in the world!"
If Mark David Chapman's lawyer had made that argument the thesis of his defense: "My client killed Dracula! You should be giving him a medal!" we might have the beginning of an interesting discussion about celebrity as a new form of extortion, of oppression. Instead we get Spinal Tap's cover of "Amazing Grace."
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Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 12, 2008 12:42 AM
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In any case, today's opiate addicts are not burnouts from rock bands. They are outwardly normal people who get their drugs from the doctor's office, not off the street. There is a fair amount of illegal heroin in the U.S., (via Afghanistan and Mexico) but the real opiate drug problem in the U.S. centers around prescription drugs, as this coroner reports on his blog:
"We always think of heroin as the real “bad guy” opiate of abuse and it is. It is associated with presentation to the ER with problems of various sorts, increased risk of various infectious diseases, suicide and death. SAMHSA estimates (and admits that it may be an underestimate) that nearly 400,000 folks used heroin in 2004 (most recently studied year), including about 120,000 first-time users.
But what is even more concerning to me, 11.2 million Americans used prescription opioids for “non-medical” purposes in 2003 (most recent SAMHSA data). They estimate that there are 4.4 million “current non-medical users” in this country. Talk about a real problem with huge numbers.
Certainly this agrees with what we see through our office. Death related to non-prescription use of prescription drugs outpaces the heroin deaths we see and we see our share of both."
It's also true that modern medicine would not exist as it is today without the opiate drugs. The whole point is that we need to stop treating drug abuse as a criminal problem, but rather as a public health problem. We also need to acknowledge that it's OK for people to take drugs in order to achieve the fleeting pleasures they offer. This is true for alcohol, for caffeine, and for tobacco - but not for any other drugs, such as cannabis, coca leaf or opium.
The solution is the same as for alcohol and tobacco: legalize, tax and regulate, and place severe restrictions on advertising, especially to kids (though that hasn't stopped the beer and cigarette companies, has it?).
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» What do you mean by "OK for people to take drugs"...?
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» Have you ever met real alcoholic?
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» did you bother reading
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» Odd that "anti-drug crusaders" always ignore the corporate drug pushers, isn't it?
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» Don't imply things that aren't the case, tc.....
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» My point is made clear if you view U.S. government/corporate anti-drug ads. . .
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» So, you've once again pointed out that our national drug policy is hypocritical...
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» No, I've pointed out that the "war on drugs" benefits corporate drug pushers
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» Claiming that your opponents say things they don't isn't argument.....
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» Yes, as a physician I see end-stage alcoholics all the time...
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» Right - and how many lives have been saved by morphine?
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» I'm not sure it's viewed as a "very acceptable position within the medical establishment"...
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» The numbers don't lie: alcohol is by far a bigger killer than all illicits combined
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» You seem to be missing my point entirely...
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» How many DEA talking points have you hit on so far? (here's the list)
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» On the contrary.....
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» loved your last sentence
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» See DEA talking points #6, #7 and #8. Nice rewrite.
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» Sorry, left out the "honestly discuss" bit
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» Here's where I disagree with you, tc - point 4) of your "honest truths":
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» You're wrong: Legalizing drugs will remove profit and stigma from the equation
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» are you completely incapable of understanding what is written?
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» Another myth from mjalabe: Europe's lenient drug laws
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» You're the one who first brought up Europe's laws...
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» I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames...
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» Generally speaking, American heroin comes from Southeast Asia, Colombia and Mexico...
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Posted by: fanny666 on Apr 12, 2008 12:57 AM
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What a mindless rant against... well, the author is not exactly sure. Celebrities in general? Music he does not like? Sigmund Freud?
Let's attack the real enemy: Nikki Sixx. Who by the way is donating the money from this book to a shelter for runaway teens (he was a teenage runaway). Maybe he fails at writing an anti-drug book, but that was his intention. It's a fucking diary. He didn't write it for English majors like you to poo-poo on.
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» Sigmund Freud was no "half-baked intellectual" - he was a revolutionary thinker.
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Posted by: Kevbo on Apr 12, 2008 1:28 AM
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Why would you even need to pick up the book to know that?
Someone's obviously jonesing for romantic drug use cut with rock star strut.
It's all been done before.
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Posted by: mvonballmo on Apr 12, 2008 2:53 AM
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Byron died without finding God or AA's "higher power" or groveling to the sanctimonious majority back home. In our time, perhaps only Hunter Thompson showed that sort of lifelong heretical courage.
Another recent social critic who also had quite a sense of humor, Bill Hicks, was unabashed about his drug use, defending the lifestyle thusly:
No, I don't do drugs anymore, either. But I'll tell you something about drugs. I used to do drugs, but I'll tell you something honestly about drugs, honestly, and I know it's not a very popular idea, you don't hear it very often anymore, but it is the truth: I had a great time doing drugs. Sorry. Never murdered anyone, never robbed anyone, never raped anyone, never beat anyone, never lost a job, a car, a house, a wife or kids, laughed my ass off, and went about my day.
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Posted by: Todd Kimmell on Apr 12, 2008 5:19 AM
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I read as far as the suggestion that smack has more cache, more real street cred, and somehow more class than coke.
Philadelphia has one of the highest murder rates in the country. A much higher figure, without benefit of any headlines, is deaths by overdose in this city and the surrounding suburbs... an outright epidemic.
Drugs are drugs. People do them, and then they grow out of that phase in their lives or they die. But don't work so hard to try to add some sort of justifying mystique to the one that is killing local kids around here by the hundreds, every year.
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» Alcohol and tobacco are the deadly drugs you're talking about, right?
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Posted by: Fat Man at the Buffet Line on Apr 12, 2008 5:28 AM
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» some drugs are really fun
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Posted by: jmmartin on Apr 12, 2008 5:44 AM
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Also, I have a minor cavil. William Burroughs never published a book under that name. He used the initial of his middle name, Seward, so it should read William S. Burroughs.
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Posted by: snarlah on Apr 12, 2008 6:36 AM
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Remember, while we're at it, that William Randolph Hearst, Mexican hater (we don't have those do we?) caused marijuana to be made illegal and it's been that way for a hundred years or so, yet there's no proof that it does anyone's health any harm. And hemp used to be among the most heavily used products in the world.
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Posted by: Vic Fedorov on Apr 12, 2008 6:45 AM
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Byron defaced the temple of poseiden in Greece, cutting his into a pillar there.
That's bad, irresponsible karma, doesn't sound like a mediator at all.
Both heroin and graffiti may profess a little rebellion, but really are acts self-degredation onto one's own soul.
You almost have to be a victim of some mind controll to do heroin or carve your initials in a 2500 yr old temple.
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Posted by: sean000 on Apr 12, 2008 8:32 AM
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"ClichEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?"
At first I thought it was just a typo. After many repeats I decided it must be intentional. Maybe I just didn't read your article carefully enough to understand that you were being clever, but I didn't want to devote too much time to reading about Nikki Sixx. His band already cost me many hours of my life in the 80s as I sat through their craptacular videos while watching MTV and hoping they'd play a better band next.
I'm not surprised that a has-been rock star wrote a book, with help, about drugs and how lonely his partying lifestyle has left him. I'm just surprised this particular one merits an article this long. You're obviously familiar with drug-addled superstars who are much better writers, and you're also familiar with more talented bands like Husker Du. You've also seen Spinal Tap. Rather than devote so much of your time and words to Mr. Sixx, I would have simply borrowed from the infamous review of Spinal Tap's album "Shark Sandwich" and written the following two-line review of Mr. Sixx's book: "S**t Sandwich."
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Posted by: e rice on Apr 12, 2008 9:00 AM
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whatever the drug of choice, the effect of consumption past a certain point is, ultimately, the same: complete self-involvement and self-isolation, total disconnection from other people.
how is this 'fun'?
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Posted by: Asses of Evil on Apr 12, 2008 9:03 AM
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Posted by: hurricane hugo on Apr 12, 2008 10:44 AM
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Why would this book be any different?
jdfu!
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Posted by: deastCarey on Apr 12, 2008 10:48 AM
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Posted by: lasirene on Apr 12, 2008 11:03 AM
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What I'd like to see from Alternet are articles about drugs relating to COINTELPRO and information that proves once and for all that "the man" uses drugs to control the masses and put down any kind of popular movements. Look at what happened to the Black Panthers. I did my share of drugs when I was younger and I still use my drugs of choice (alcohol, chocolate)but these days I take every opportunity to tell all the young people I know that if they buy into the drug scene, especially now, they are being made a big fat sucker by the man who is trying to stop them from being part of the solution.
Alternet, please! I don't pore over every single article every week, but I keep coming across these boring fluff pieces-this article could have perhaps been interesting if it was more than just a review- and used Sixx's book as a jumping off place. I'm really getting tired of this lowest common denominator type article from Alternet. I expect better. I can get low-brow bullcrap everywhere else.
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Posted by: sunnywater on Apr 12, 2008 12:57 PM
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This may be the worst article I've ever read on Alternet. The tone of the piece snarky, and childish. Reminds me of the sophmoric writing in Circus magazine.
Come now, you guys can do better than this thin tripe.
Sorry about my negative attitude guys, I guess I expected too much.
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Posted by: progdem on Apr 12, 2008 1:11 PM
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But the drugs stories, the sex stories and especially the religion stories that are hostile and demeaning (as an agnostic I am not insulted myself, but I know lots of people on the correct side of the political issues who do get their feelings hurt and feel excluded because of this aggressive secularism.), all serve to divide and distract. For one thing focus on drugs (unless it is focus on the racist aspects of the drug war and how it is destroying low income communities) is just childish. Who gives a flying fuck about Nikki Six? Besides the people sitting in front of the TV watching MTV and VH1 for their pop culture fix that is.
It is worth thinking back to the civil rights and anti war movements of the sixties. They got associated with the counter-culture movement, the preffered rebellion of spoiled rich brats, and now you can't talk about protesting without being labelled a hippy. This focus on silliness just lets people stereotype you and write you off as another coddled, bourgeois limo liberal.
If I am wrong and alternet is not here to fight the central fight of our time, then please forgive me. I am not claiming there is zero use to some of these articles (this one maybe, but not all the drugs, sex and religion articles), but that the pull down the movements that matter.
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Posted by: dogbeach on Apr 12, 2008 1:51 PM
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Nice try.
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Posted by: realmuzik on Apr 12, 2008 4:39 PM
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I just finished Valerie Bertinelli's book [that included] her account of her ex-hubby Eddie Van Halen's alcoholism and cocaine abuse, which destroyed their 20-year marraige (A miracle in itself, especially for a show-biz couple). It can easily be told right alongside Sixx's accounts of his heroin abuse.
Let's not forget that it's not just the hard rockers and metal heads. Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love, anyone?? Heroin destroyed Cobain, too (It definitely led to his either suicide or murder, depending on what story you wish to believe), and Love is barely sober at best.
Young people really need to read these books for their cautionary tales. Never mind the relevancy or unrelevancy of their subjects' talents.
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Posted by: grumble-bum on Apr 12, 2008 5:58 PM
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1.) Limit your writing to something you actually know something about. That would apparently rule out the following topics; Psychotherapy (One may debate the lasting merits of Freud's work, but to deny that it was a paradigm shift is friggin' dumb), Addiction (Have you ever known any actual addicts, or even done, & I mean done, any drugs? Or are your observations solely gleaned from required reading texts back in Prep School?), & finally, Literary Criticism (kinda have to be able to put together a cohesive series of thoughts to pull that one off).
2.) Make sure that when criticizing others, that you aren't guilty of identical failings. In this case that would preclude basing the bulk of your critique on your target's reliance on cliche (ignoring for the moment that drug addiction & recovery stories are by nature rather cliche- What'd you expect Nikki & Friends to do, invent a new vocabulary for pain & isolation?), when your whole article is nothing but a tired retread of the false concepts that Heroin is somehow heroic, & that Prohibition is solely to blame for its lethality (I'd ask some of my Heroin-addicted friends if they'd stop injecting & start smoking if it was legal, but unfortunately many of them are fucking dead, & the rest of them are way too busy procuring & using Heroin to read your joke of an article). While I'm on the topic, it may surprise you that the observation that an 80's Hair-Metal rock star is a poor writer is also, well, rather obvious.
3.) Quit writing articles about how incredibly stupid the entire population of the United States is (especially in comparison to yourself). After all, we are just too durn stupid to appreciate yer jeenyus. It's a tragic waste of your brilliance.
4.) Learn to include some measure of redeeming substance with your bile. A smidgen of humility or self-awareness (not "-importance", mind you) might be a good start. Your idols (Thompson, Tiabbi, Burroughs) had this. That's why they have had enduring careers. Blind arrogance, aimlessly applied & ungrounded in any human virtue, is ultimately just "dull". We're all bozos on this bus, but most of us have the decency to masturbate in private.
So, congratulations are due; you have, through consistency, dogged effort, & useless observation, joined the elite ranks of such Alternet-supported "writers" as Kathy Freston of "Stepford Born-Again Vegans for Prius!" infamy. Albeit, from the opposite end of the spectrum.
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Posted by: DropTheOBomb on Apr 12, 2008 10:27 PM
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William S. Burroughs the best practitioner of the Beats? Better than Kerouac and Ginsberg? Really??
Husker Du is talented? Could have fooled me.
Hunter S. Thompson didn't brag about his drug use? Seriously?? "Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas" was essentially a long brazen brag about how much drugs he and his friend once did and the hilarity that ensued.
Ay yi yi.
At least you got one thing right...I'm still trying to forget Motley Crue ever existed (and I refuse to write "Motley Crue" with the ridiculous dots over the vowels.)
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Posted by: theallegro on Apr 13, 2008 1:51 AM
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Posted by: biginJapan on Apr 13, 2008 3:42 AM
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But saying they are a band we are all still trying to forget pissed me off. Screw you and your "god on high" attitude about what is cool or not. Try writing about something that matters next time. Please.
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Posted by: jw56 on Apr 13, 2008 8:08 AM
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Serious? What is this love affair we have with narcotics all about? Sure, I'm all for the legalization of drugs (too many people in prison for nonsense behavior and drug use), but why do we always try to glamorize it?
A couple of years ago my brother had his last three teeth yanked from his mouth. His other teeth fell out from constant use of meth. Serious drug people? When have drug people been serious about anything but keeping their buzz?
I guess he was serious when he stole from family and friends. I guess he was serious when he got his son for weekends and then left him with me or my mother because he was out looking for more meth. I guess he was serious when he'd borrow a vehicle for a week and forgot where he parked it. I guess he was serious when he forgot to go to work and expected everyone to pay his bills. I guess he was serious when we received calls asking for bail money. I guess he was serious when he crashed on someone's couch for a week or two.
I don't know if he ever used heroin. At this point I don't care, but the stories I've been told by people who did or had loved ones who did aren't any better than his.
When it comes to drug use, American's have their heads up their asses.
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Posted by: karyse on Apr 13, 2008 8:39 AM
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Or maybe they're just clueless. Anyone who lived through the late sixties remembers fondly doing drugs -- and no, we didn't rob, steal, or cheat, anyone to get them. Maybe because then they were virtually free.
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Posted by: WhatNow? on Apr 13, 2008 10:15 AM
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"Of course injected street heroin has a terrible potential for fatal overdoses, because you don't know the purity of the dose until it's already in your bloodstream. What no one seems to realize is that this too is a side effect of Prohibition."
Yep, legalize all drugs with accurate weights and potencies and then let the idiots overdose if they want. That might do wonders to improve the gene pool. And then the destruction would likely be more localized to the individual instead of spreading the chaos.
"Conversely, in countries like Iran which prohibit that allegedly safe, mainstream drug, alcohol, many users die or go blind from ingesting street booze laced with the usual variety of poisons. Prohibition kills far more people than "drugs."
Bingo! Same thing was happening in the US during prohibition. Prohibition has made me suffer far more than drugs ever would. I would have smoked a little grass here and there with little detriment but a fake scarcity would lead towards alcohol, which caused me problems I never would have known.
The article also mentions drugs are fun. Why do people seem to like to leave out the fact that many drugs cause euphoria. What's wrong with euphoria?
eu·pho·ri·a (yōō-fôr'ē-ə, -fōr'-)
n. A feeling of great happiness or well-being.
And last but not least, moderation is the key. If Sixx wasn't such a stupid piece of shit, he could have partaken a little dope here and there and not suffered too greatly but he's like a large percentage of people. They're stupid and have little to no self control.
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Husker who?
Nuff time wasted on this bunk.
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Posted by: jwhattersley on Apr 13, 2008 6:43 PM
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And, getting mad because heroin is demonized compared to coke? Good lord, aren't there REAL things to get angry about?
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Posted by: Urban Myth #3 on Apr 19, 2008 7:01 PM
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This makes for over 40 million people!
Ask your local Cop, any Cop, Hospital Worker, Social Worker, Criminal Justice worker - what substance does the most harm in society today????
Our old friend the Bottle and the accompanying ravages ensure that no Government is willing to decriminalise any further recreational substances - their hands are full with this particular one.
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Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Apr 12, 2008 12:42 AM
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In any case, today's opiate addicts are not burnouts from rock bands. They are outwardly normal people who get their drugs from the doctor's office, not off the street. There is a fair amount of illegal heroin in the U.S., (via Afghanistan and Mexico) but the real opiate drug problem in the U.S. centers around prescription drugs, as this coroner reports on his blog:
"We always think of heroin as the real “bad guy” opiate of abuse and it is. It is associated with presentation to the ER with problems of various sorts, increased risk of various infectious diseases, suicide and death. SAMHSA estimates (and admits that it may be an underestimate) that nearly 400,000 folks used heroin in 2004 (most recently studied year), including about 120,000 first-time users.
But what is even more concerning to me, 11.2 million Americans used prescription opioids for “non-medical” purposes in 2003 (most recent SAMHSA data). They estimate that there are 4.4 million “current non-medical users” in this country. Talk about a real problem with huge numbers.
Certainly this agrees with what we see through our office. Death related to non-prescription use of prescription drugs outpaces the heroin deaths we see and we see our share of both."
It's also true that modern medicine would not exist as it is today without the opiate drugs. The whole point is that we need to stop treating drug abuse as a criminal problem, but rather as a public health problem. We also need to acknowledge that it's OK for people to take drugs in order to achieve the fleeting pleasures they offer. This is true for alcohol, for caffeine, and for tobacco - but not for any other drugs, such as cannabis, coca leaf or opium.
The solution is the same as for alcohol and tobacco: legalize, tax and regulate, and place severe restrictions on advertising, especially to kids (though that hasn't stopped the beer and cigarette companies, has it?).
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Posted by: fanny666 on Apr 12, 2008 12:57 AM
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What a mindless rant against... well, the author is not exactly sure. Celebrities in general? Music he does not like? Sigmund Freud?
Let's attack the real enemy: Nikki Sixx. Who by the way is donating the money from this book to a shelter for runaway teens (he was a teenage runaway). Maybe he fails at writing an anti-drug book, but that was his intention. It's a fucking diary. He didn't write it for English majors like you to poo-poo on.
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Posted by: Kevbo on Apr 12, 2008 1:28 AM
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Why would you even need to pick up the book to know that?
Someone's obviously jonesing for romantic drug use cut with rock star strut.
It's all been done before.
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Posted by: mvonballmo on Apr 12, 2008 2:53 AM
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Byron died without finding God or AA's "higher power" or groveling to the sanctimonious majority back home. In our time, perhaps only Hunter Thompson showed that sort of lifelong heretical courage.
Another recent social critic who also had quite a sense of humor, Bill Hicks, was unabashed about his drug use, defending the lifestyle thusly:
No, I don't do drugs anymore, either. But I'll tell you something about drugs. I used to do drugs, but I'll tell you something honestly about drugs, honestly, and I know it's not a very popular idea, you don't hear it very often anymore, but it is the truth: I had a great time doing drugs. Sorry. Never murdered anyone, never robbed anyone, never raped anyone, never beat anyone, never lost a job, a car, a house, a wife or kids, laughed my ass off, and went about my day.
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I read as far as the suggestion that smack has more cache, more real street cred, and somehow more class than coke.
Philadelphia has one of the highest murder rates in the country. A much higher figure, without benefit of any headlines, is deaths by overdose in this city and the surrounding suburbs... an outright epidemic.
Drugs are drugs. People do them, and then they grow out of that phase in their lives or they die. But don't work so hard to try to add some sort of justifying mystique to the one that is killing local kids around here by the hundreds, every year.
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Posted by: jmmartin on Apr 12, 2008 5:44 AM
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Also, I have a minor cavil. William Burroughs never published a book under that name. He used the initial of his middle name, Seward, so it should read William S. Burroughs.
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Remember, while we're at it, that William Randolph Hearst, Mexican hater (we don't have those do we?) caused marijuana to be made illegal and it's been that way for a hundred years or so, yet there's no proof that it does anyone's health any harm. And hemp used to be among the most heavily used products in the world.
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Posted by: Vic Fedorov on Apr 12, 2008 6:45 AM
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Byron defaced the temple of poseiden in Greece, cutting his into a pillar there.
That's bad, irresponsible karma, doesn't sound like a mediator at all.
Both heroin and graffiti may profess a little rebellion, but really are acts self-degredation onto one's own soul.
You almost have to be a victim of some mind controll to do heroin or carve your initials in a 2500 yr old temple.
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"ClichEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?"
At first I thought it was just a typo. After many repeats I decided it must be intentional. Maybe I just didn't read your article carefully enough to understand that you were being clever, but I didn't want to devote too much time to reading about Nikki Sixx. His band already cost me many hours of my life in the 80s as I sat through their craptacular videos while watching MTV and hoping they'd play a better band next.
I'm not surprised that a has-been rock star wrote a book, with help, about drugs and how lonely his partying lifestyle has left him. I'm just surprised this particular one merits an article this long. You're obviously familiar with drug-addled superstars who are much better writers, and you're also familiar with more talented bands like Husker Du. You've also seen Spinal Tap. Rather than devote so much of your time and words to Mr. Sixx, I would have simply borrowed from the infamous review of Spinal Tap's album "Shark Sandwich" and written the following two-line review of Mr. Sixx's book: "S**t Sandwich."
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Posted by: e rice on Apr 12, 2008 9:00 AM
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whatever the drug of choice, the effect of consumption past a certain point is, ultimately, the same: complete self-involvement and self-isolation, total disconnection from other people.
how is this 'fun'?
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Posted by: hurricane hugo on Apr 12, 2008 10:44 AM
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Why would this book be any different?
jdfu!
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Posted by: lasirene on Apr 12, 2008 11:03 AM
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What I'd like to see from Alternet are articles about drugs relating to COINTELPRO and information that proves once and for all that "the man" uses drugs to control the masses and put down any kind of popular movements. Look at what happened to the Black Panthers. I did my share of drugs when I was younger and I still use my drugs of choice (alcohol, chocolate)but these days I take every opportunity to tell all the young people I know that if they buy into the drug scene, especially now, they are being made a big fat sucker by the man who is trying to stop them from being part of the solution.
Alternet, please! I don't pore over every single article every week, but I keep coming across these boring fluff pieces-this article could have perhaps been interesting if it was more than just a review- and used Sixx's book as a jumping off place. I'm really getting tired of this lowest common denominator type article from Alternet. I expect better. I can get low-brow bullcrap everywhere else.
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Posted by: sunnywater on Apr 12, 2008 12:57 PM
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This may be the worst article I've ever read on Alternet. The tone of the piece snarky, and childish. Reminds me of the sophmoric writing in Circus magazine.
Come now, you guys can do better than this thin tripe.
Sorry about my negative attitude guys, I guess I expected too much.
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Posted by: progdem on Apr 12, 2008 1:11 PM
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But the drugs stories, the sex stories and especially the religion stories that are hostile and demeaning (as an agnostic I am not insulted myself, but I know lots of people on the correct side of the political issues who do get their feelings hurt and feel excluded because of this aggressive secularism.), all serve to divide and distract. For one thing focus on drugs (unless it is focus on the racist aspects of the drug war and how it is destroying low income communities) is just childish. Who gives a flying fuck about Nikki Six? Besides the people sitting in front of the TV watching MTV and VH1 for their pop culture fix that is.
It is worth thinking back to the civil rights and anti war movements of the sixties. They got associated with the counter-culture movement, the preffered rebellion of spoiled rich brats, and now you can't talk about protesting without being labelled a hippy. This focus on silliness just lets people stereotype you and write you off as another coddled, bourgeois limo liberal.
If I am wrong and alternet is not here to fight the central fight of our time, then please forgive me. I am not claiming there is zero use to some of these articles (this one maybe, but not all the drugs, sex and religion articles), but that the pull down the movements that matter.
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Nice try.
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Posted by: realmuzik on Apr 12, 2008 4:39 PM
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I just finished Valerie Bertinelli's book [that included] her account of her ex-hubby Eddie Van Halen's alcoholism and cocaine abuse, which destroyed their 20-year marraige (A miracle in itself, especially for a show-biz couple). It can easily be told right alongside Sixx's accounts of his heroin abuse.
Let's not forget that it's not just the hard rockers and metal heads. Kurt Cobain and Courtney Love, anyone?? Heroin destroyed Cobain, too (It definitely led to his either suicide or murder, depending on what story you wish to believe), and Love is barely sober at best.
Young people really need to read these books for their cautionary tales. Never mind the relevancy or unrelevancy of their subjects' talents.
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Posted by: grumble-bum on Apr 12, 2008 5:58 PM
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1.) Limit your writing to something you actually know something about. That would apparently rule out the following topics; Psychotherapy (One may debate the lasting merits of Freud's work, but to deny that it was a paradigm shift is friggin' dumb), Addiction (Have you ever known any actual addicts, or even done, & I mean done, any drugs? Or are your observations solely gleaned from required reading texts back in Prep School?), & finally, Literary Criticism (kinda have to be able to put together a cohesive series of thoughts to pull that one off).
2.) Make sure that when criticizing others, that you aren't guilty of identical failings. In this case that would preclude basing the bulk of your critique on your target's reliance on cliche (ignoring for the moment that drug addiction & recovery stories are by nature rather cliche- What'd you expect Nikki & Friends to do, invent a new vocabulary for pain & isolation?), when your whole article is nothing but a tired retread of the false concepts that Heroin is somehow heroic, & that Prohibition is solely to blame for its lethality (I'd ask some of my Heroin-addicted friends if they'd stop injecting & start smoking if it was legal, but unfortunately many of them are fucking dead, & the rest of them are way too busy procuring & using Heroin to read your joke of an article). While I'm on the topic, it may surprise you that the observation that an 80's Hair-Metal rock star is a poor writer is also, well, rather obvious.
3.) Quit writing articles about how incredibly stupid the entire population of the United States is (especially in comparison to yourself). After all, we are just too durn stupid to appreciate yer jeenyus. It's a tragic waste of your brilliance.
4.) Learn to include some measure of redeeming substance with your bile. A smidgen of humility or self-awareness (not "-importance", mind you) might be a good start. Your idols (Thompson, Tiabbi, Burroughs) had this. That's why they have had enduring careers. Blind arrogance, aimlessly applied & ungrounded in any human virtue, is ultimately just "dull". We're all bozos on this bus, but most of us have the decency to masturbate in private.
So, congratulations are due; you have, through consistency, dogged effort, & useless observation, joined the elite ranks of such Alternet-supported "writers" as Kathy Freston of "Stepford Born-Again Vegans for Prius!" infamy. Albeit, from the opposite end of the spectrum.
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William S. Burroughs the best practitioner of the Beats? Better than Kerouac and Ginsberg? Really??
Husker Du is talented? Could have fooled me.
Hunter S. Thompson didn't brag about his drug use? Seriously?? "Fear And Loathing In Las Vegas" was essentially a long brazen brag about how much drugs he and his friend once did and the hilarity that ensued.
Ay yi yi.
At least you got one thing right...I'm still trying to forget Motley Crue ever existed (and I refuse to write "Motley Crue" with the ridiculous dots over the vowels.)
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But saying they are a band we are all still trying to forget pissed me off. Screw you and your "god on high" attitude about what is cool or not. Try writing about something that matters next time. Please.
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Posted by: jw56 on Apr 13, 2008 8:08 AM
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Serious? What is this love affair we have with narcotics all about? Sure, I'm all for the legalization of drugs (too many people in prison for nonsense behavior and drug use), but why do we always try to glamorize it?
A couple of years ago my brother had his last three teeth yanked from his mouth. His other teeth fell out from constant use of meth. Serious drug people? When have drug people been serious about anything but keeping their buzz?
I guess he was serious when he stole from family and friends. I guess he was serious when he got his son for weekends and then left him with me or my mother because he was out looking for more meth. I guess he was serious when he'd borrow a vehicle for a week and forgot where he parked it. I guess he was serious when he forgot to go to work and expected everyone to pay his bills. I guess he was serious when we received calls asking for bail money. I guess he was serious when he crashed on someone's couch for a week or two.
I don't know if he ever used heroin. At this point I don't care, but the stories I've been told by people who did or had loved ones who did aren't any better than his.
When it comes to drug use, American's have their heads up their asses.
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Posted by: karyse on Apr 13, 2008 8:39 AM
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Or maybe they're just clueless. Anyone who lived through the late sixties remembers fondly doing drugs -- and no, we didn't rob, steal, or cheat, anyone to get them. Maybe because then they were virtually free.
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"Of course injected street heroin has a terrible potential for fatal overdoses, because you don't know the purity of the dose until it's already in your bloodstream. What no one seems to realize is that this too is a side effect of Prohibition."
Yep, legalize all drugs with accurate weights and potencies and then let the idiots overdose if they want. That might do wonders to improve the gene pool. And then the destruction would likely be more localized to the individual instead of spreading the chaos.
"Conversely, in countries like Iran which prohibit that allegedly safe, mainstream drug, alcohol, many users die or go blind from ingesting street booze laced with the usual variety of poisons. Prohibition kills far more people than "drugs."
Bingo! Same thing was happening in the US during prohibition. Prohibition has made me suffer far more than drugs ever would. I would have smoked a little grass here and there with little detriment but a fake scarcity would lead towards alcohol, which caused me problems I never would have known.
The article also mentions drugs are fun. Why do people seem to like to leave out the fact that many drugs cause euphoria. What's wrong with euphoria?
eu·pho·ri·a (yōō-fôr'ē-ə, -fōr'-)
n. A feeling of great happiness or well-being.
And last but not least, moderation is the key. If Sixx wasn't such a stupid piece of shit, he could have partaken a little dope here and there and not suffered too greatly but he's like a large percentage of people. They're stupid and have little to no self control.
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Husker who?
Nuff time wasted on this bunk.
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And, getting mad because heroin is demonized compared to coke? Good lord, aren't there REAL things to get angry about?
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This makes for over 40 million people!
Ask your local Cop, any Cop, Hospital Worker, Social Worker, Criminal Justice worker - what substance does the most harm in society today????
Our old friend the Bottle and the accompanying ravages ensure that no Government is willing to decriminalise any further recreational substances - their hands are full with this particular one.
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