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Fox News Is in for a Very Rough 2008
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My guess is that Fox News guru Roger Ailes has been reaching for the Tums more often than usual early in the New Year, and there are lots of reasons for the hovering angst.
Let's take an extended multiple choice quiz. Right now, which of the following topics is likely causing the discomfort inside Ailes' Fox News empire?
A) CNN's resurgence as the go-to cable destination for election coverage.
B) The incredible shrinking candidacy of Fox News' favored son, Rudy Giuliani.
C) The still-standing candidacy of Fox News nemesis and well-funded, anti-war GOP candidate Rep. Ron Paul.
D) The Democratic candidates' blanket refusal to debate on Fox News during the primary season.
E) Host Bill O'Reilly being so desperate for an interview from a Democratic contender that he had to schlep all the way to New Hampshire, where he shoved an aide to Sen. Barack Obama and then had to be calmed down by Secret Service agents.
F) Former Fox News architect and Ailes confidante Dan Cooper posting chapters from his a wildly unflattering tell-all book about his old boss. ("The best thing that ever happened to Roger Ailes was 9/11.")
G) The fledgling Fox Business Network, whose anemic ratings are in danger of being surpassed by some large city public access channels.
H) Host John Gibson's recent heartless attacks on actor Heath Ledger, just hours after the young actor was found dead.
I) Fox News reporter Major Garrett botching his "exclusive" that Paul Begala and James Carville were going to join Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's presidential campaign, and then refusing to correct the record.
I'd say it's
A, B, C, D, E, F, and G. (I doubt Gibson's grave-dancing or Garrett's whopper caused Ailes a moment's concern.)
Bottom line is that Fox News is in for a very rough 2008. And the umbrella reason for that is quite simple: Eight years ago the all-news cable channel went all-in on the presidency of George Bush and became a broadcast partner with the White House. Proof of that was on display Sunday night, January 27, during Fox News' prime-time, "Fighting to the Finish," an "historic documentary" on the final year of Bush's presidency. Filmed in HD and featuring "unprecedented access," according to the Fox News press release, the show was pure propaganda. (I must have missed Fox News' "Fighting to the Finish" special back in 2000, chronicling the conclusion of President Bill Clinton's second term and his "extraordinarily consequential tenure.")
The point is that Fox News years ago made an obvious decision to appeal almost exclusively to Republican viewers. The good news then for Fox News was that it succeeded. The bad news now for Fox News is that it succeeded.
Meaning, when the GOP catches a cold, everybody at Fox News gets sick. As blogger Logan Murphy put it at Crooks and Liars, "Watching FOXNews getting their comeuppance has been fun to watch. They made their bed, now they're having to lie in it and it's not too comfortable."
The most obvious signs of Fox News' downturn have been the cable ratings for the big primary and caucus votes this year, as well as the high-profile debates. With this election season generating unprecedented voter and viewer interest, Fox News' rating bumps to date have remained underwhelming, to say the least.
For instance, on the night of the big New Hampshire primary, CNN, which habitually trails behind Fox News in the prime-time race, attracted nearly 250,000 more viewers than its top competitor, marking a changing-of-the-guard of sorts.
The turnaround was striking when you consider that in 2004, even with no Republicans running against Bush, Fox News was still able to draw 200,000 more viewers than CNN on the night of the New Hampshire Democratic primary. Yet in 2008, with a very competitive GOP field, CNN was the ratings winner from New Hampshire.
And just look at the ratings for January 19, which featured returns from the Nevada caucus coming in during the late afternoon, and then fresh returns from the South Carolina Republican primary being posted during prime time that night. In the past, Fox News would have absolutely owned that night of coverage, as conservative news junkies flocked to their home team -- Fox News -- to see the results. But no more. CNN grabbed nearly just as many prime-time viewers for the Republican South Carolina returns as did Fox News.
The problem for Fox News is that it's the Democratic race that's creating most of the excitement, yet Fox News has been forced to mostly watch the race from the sidelines. That's because last winter, after Fox News tried to smear Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) for purportedly attending a radical Muslim school as a child, liberal bloggers launched an initiative to get Democratic candidates to boycott a debate co-sponsored by Fox News and the Nevada Democratic Party. (The boycott, powered by Foxattacks.com, was later extended to any and all Fox News debates.)
The point of the online crusade was not to simply embarrass Fox News or rattle Nevada Democrats for being out of touch with the grassroots masses that distrusted and despised Fox News. The point, instead, was to begin chipping away, in a serious, consistent method, at Fox News' reputation. To spell out that Fox News was nothing more than a Republican mouthpiece and that Democrats need not engage with the News Corp. giant.
The lack of Democratic debates for Fox News has meant a huge setback for the news organization from a ratings perspective. Just look at the grand slam CNN hit last week when, on January 21, it broadcast the much-talked-about Democratic debate from South Carolina. The CNN event not only creamed Fox News in the ratings, nearly tripling its audience that night, but the debate set a new cable news mark for the most viewers ever to watch a primary debate.
In
fact, of the 10 most-watched debates this election season, Fox has aired just two, compared to CNN's five. Of the 10 most-watched debates, six have featured Democrats; four Republicans.
CNN is virtually guaranteed another monster ratings win this week with a pair of high-profile debates staged in California -- the Republicans on Wednesday night and Democrats on Thursday.
No wonder CNN's so giddy these days. Here's the spin CNN president Jonathan Klein put out following its New Hampshire ratings win: "There's a freshness and exuberance to our coverage that the others just aren't matching. ... Fox almost seems downright despondent in their coverage."
So I'm not the only one who feels like Fox News coverage, especially of the Republican field, often feels like a televised wake. Or maybe that's just been Fox News' collective, subconscious mourning of the Giuliani campaign.
After all, Sean Hannity served as Fox News' official ambassador to the Giuliani campaign; a campaign that Ailes and Fox News were hoping to ride back into the White House. Yet despite showering Giuliani with all kinds of laudatory coverage, both Hannity and Ailes have been powerless, as they watched Giuliani's rudderless campaign go nowhere for months.
Even an all-out Fox News marketing blitz to label Giuliani "America's Mayor" never got traction. In fact, it ranked right up there with the launch of New Coke, in terms of branding success. (Watch this clip to see the Fox News absurdity up-close.)
In the meantime, the rise of Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and especially Mike Huckabee, with his populist streak, has caused all sorts of consternation at Fox News. Even the conservative Weekly Standard took noticed. The magazine recently wrote that "A lot of conservatives have problems with both Huckabee and McCain. Last night on Fox, for example, Sean Hannity could barely conceal his distaste for both pols."
And don't even mention Ron Paul's name to the folks at Fox News, who have stepped outside their role as journalists to try to kneecap the anti-war GOP candidate. The most blatant slap came right before the New Hampshire primary, when Fox News refused to include Paul in a televised GOP debate, despite the fact that just days earlier Paul grabbed 10 percent of the vote in the Iowa caucus, nearly doubling the tally Giuliani posted.
Paul's Republican supporters became so incensed by the snub that they literally chased Sean Hannity through the New Hampshire night chanting "Fox News sucks!" and captured the scene in a homemade clip that really has to be seen to be believed. (To recap New Hampshire for Fox News: Hannity was pursued by a Republican mob, O'Reilly got into a shoving match with an Obama aide, and CNN grabbed more viewers. Now that's a week to remember!)
Oh, and we can't forget the wildly hyped launch of the Fox Business Network, which, News Corp. execs bragged, would dethrone longtime cable business news champ CNBC. Of course, that might happen one day. But the early ratings for Fox Business Network have been unbelievably weak.
After two months on the air, Fox Business Network, available in 30 million homes, was attracting, on average, just 6,300 viewers on any given weekday, according to Nielsen Media Research. That was good for a nearly invisible .05 rating. (By comparison, CNBC during that period was attracting 265,000 viewers.)
Making matters worse for Ailes was the fact that on January 22, as fears mounted about a possible global financial crisis, CNBC posted its best ratings in seven years, attracting 401,000 viewers that day.
The hurdle for Fox Business Network has always been simple: Why would investors and day traders in search of reliable business information turn from CNBC over to the Fox brand, which is so well-known for passing along one-sided information? News Corp. always assumed Fox News would help launch the business channel. But Fox News is taken seriously by so few people, it may be hurting the business launch.
After all, Fox News continues to embarrass itself with a type of journalism that nobody else in the industry would dare call professional. And for proof of that look no further than Major Garrett, who is supposed to be one of the channel's nonpartisan, serious journalists. He landed a recent scoop about how former advisers to Bill Clinton, Paul Begala and James Carville, were getting set to join Hillary Clinton's campaign.
Carville immediately shot the story down, telling Talking Points Memo's Greg Sargent that very same day, "Fox was, is and will continue to be an asinine and ignorant network. I have not spoken to anyone in the Clinton campaign about this. I'm not getting back into domestic political consulting."
Begala did Carville one better and directly emailed Garrett to deny the story -- a story Garrett never bothered trying to check with Begala or Carville before it was broadcast. Garrett's response to Begala's blanket denial? Garrett told the Democratic operative that he would take his denial "under advisement." [Emphasis added.]
Garrett then went back on the air and repeated the same story, and added the fact that Begala had been on a conference call the day before with Clinton advisers, which was also false. And no, despite his earlier email exchange with Begala, Garrett never bothered to try to confirm the conference call story with him before reporting it on Fox News.
On his Fox News blog, Garrett did acknowledge the Begala email and claimed he'd be updating the fast-moving story soon -- which, he told readers, would likely be confirmed the next day when the Clinton campaign made the Begala/Carville announcement. But the next day when the story imploded, Garrett simply ignored the embarrassing gaffe.
Recounting the whole Kafka-esque charade at the Huffington Post, Begala wrote, "I've never had a more surrealistic day. If this is what one of Fox's best and most respected reporters is doing, what are the hacks up to?"
They're watching CNN capture the campaign ratings crown.
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Posted by: vox persona on Jan 30, 2008 1:38 AM
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» I can't think of a network that deserves it more!!! I call them....
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Jan 30, 2008 1:51 AM
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Faux News-Right of Center
CNN- Left of Center
MSMBC- Far Left of Center
Reality
Faux News- Extreme Wingnut Right
CNN- Right of Center
MSNBC- Slightly Right of Center
FYI- CNBC is nothing to brag about. The take they pimp daily is so right wing NeoCon as to make a Faux Producer blush. They have also added unbiased to their tagline. Hosts are openly hostile to anyone not worshipping at the altar of Private Equity and Tax Cuts as the cure for all ills.
Unbiased Uh-huh
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Posted by: adp3d on Jan 30, 2008 3:44 AM
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Posted by: gazooks on Jan 30, 2008 3:46 AM
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No one does Bush standup better than Bush, can O'Reilly be far behind as the future funniest man on cable?
Do we really need writers when such authentic mindlessness proliferates?
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Posted by: casual_asides on Jan 30, 2008 3:59 AM
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Either Murdoch knows which side their bread is buttered on, or News Corp has been reading up on Clinton's foreign policy--four more years of the War in Iraq! Hillary wants to put flag-burners in Federal prison, too, so I think Fox News would be much more comfortable with her than you might think.
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Jan 30, 2008 4:04 AM
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Conservative: GOOD. Liberal: BAD. Think of it as Mallard Fillmore in real time.
It was not like this in our parent's day. In that bygone, lost era, before the Triumph of Mediocrity (as Norman Corwin put it twenty years ago in the sub title of his well-written book, "Trivializing America"), the greatest generation went to the polls with - at the very least - a remedial knowledge of the issues important to their counrty. Today we are so susceptible to political propaganda and corporate-media influence, the main talking point of the last presidential campaign was John Kerry's innocent gaffe during the primary season: "I voted for the eighty-seven billion before I voted against it". A statement as innocuous as that would not have made so much as a blip on the political radar screens of 1960, 1972 or even 1984 for that matter.
Mah! Mah! The ol' plantation sho' has changed!
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
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Posted by: HeKnew on Jan 30, 2008 4:07 AM
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They're organizing a town petition making President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney subject to arrest for crimes against the Constitution.
http://www.brattleboro.org/
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Posted by: Sushi on Jan 30, 2008 4:56 AM
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It all sounds like high-tech school yard gossip instead of news. You have to go to foreign sources to hear anything resembling a report on important issues. At least they don't dumb it down.
I don't even believe the report that Clinton won Florida. I don't know very many people who are big fans, but the media tells us she won, so "it must be troo." Who the hell knows at this point. It's probably just another sell job because the R's think they can beat her or steal the elections again, saying, "America is just not ready to have a female prez."
A pox on Fox.
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Posted by: Sushi on Jan 30, 2008 4:56 AM
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It all sounds like high-tech school yard gossip instead of news. You have to go to foreign sources to hear anything resembling a report on important issues. At least they don't dumb it down.
I don't even believe the report that Clinton won Florida. I don't know very many people who are big fans, but the media tells us she won, so "it must be troo." Who the hell knows at this point. It's probably just another sell job because the R's think they can beat her or steal the elections again, saying, "America is just not ready to have a female prez."
A pox on Fox.
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Posted by: Kuressaare on Jan 30, 2008 4:57 AM
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I would say my vision for Gibson would not even be multiple cardboard boxes; if Gibson causes his chief the least worry of anything on that list, he may have cause to reconsider one fine day. I will think on it, very deeply. People who would exhibit such hatred for people only playing parts in dramas (but why not cover real honest to god Gay men too?), are they a few cards short? The hatred they have stirred up, wow, I'd say ten out of ten from where I sit. Rest easy guys, all the money in the world will protect you (not at all). You remember the famous Uncle Louis who got blown to bits? In Ireland? Prince Charles very broken up? Uncle Louis as now confirmed in released secret papers,-- he knew about Dieppe and what would happen. Canada, was the big loser, at least 4000 slain like slaves in a pen. Althogh there is a Ronald Reagan movie showing how their few U.S. hundreds were the big winners and victors. Typical. We all knew it years ago, how the sand beach was to allow the landing party to disappear downwards quickly to avoid the machine guns. The sand was in fact river type rocks the size of softballs at least. No men wiggled anywhere, and at the top of the "beach" the German machine guns played sport of a sort. I prayed for years that Uncle Louis would go to Heaven (his variety), and by God, he did. The power of prayer, right. I am praying these Fox idiots into heaven as best I can.
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Posted by: Turiye on Jan 30, 2008 5:12 AM
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Posted by: Turiye on Jan 30, 2008 5:14 AM
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Posted by: williameon on Jan 30, 2008 5:15 AM
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What a lying pack of A-sholes.
Rupert the Pervert says it’s entertainment.
It is Grossly unbalanced,
Pure and unadulterated:
BU__! SH__!
What a decrepit old lying piece of cow dung.
This is what we are up against.
Dinosaurs spewing fossilized turds.
As far as the rest of the crass media is concerned,
They present two sides of the same coin.
The Media is a Fascist Conditioning Device that spews endless hypnotic propaganda.
Giving only the Cor‘pirate’ view point.
Things are great!
Just sit back and take it.
What’s great for them is bad for you.
They are purveyors of the Grand Delusion!
The illusion that we live in a free Country governed by and for the people.
It is HOAX and just the complete opposite.
We are Governed by crazy fascist crooks!
Hell bent on Destroying us and the world.
They all sit there and clap for The Fuhrer.
While the country is going to hell in a hand basket and our freedom flushed down the sewer.
Like nothing happened.
Smug in their deceit.
Assassins: one and all.
Anyone who goes along with this charade should be
Tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail.
We live in a Military Media Dictatorship.
Just like the ones they've supported all around the world.
Our system is being run by vicious ruthless criminals.
Who are committing crimes against the American people and Humanity everyday.
They are the lowest of the low.
Dead Eye and The Shrub.
They’ve killed millions at the drop of a hat.
Who else do you think, would do their dirty work?
Einstein? The Buddha? Christ?
The Shrub has given you a glimpse into their private reality!
The truth in his own words:
“They write History.”
“They are above the law.”
They pull the strings that make you jump.
They control the talking heads.
They control the coinversation.
How do we fight back?
First,
SHUT IT OFF!
Then Divest yourselves from any of their Corpirate Garbage.
Stop investing in the Schlock Market!
Where they make a killing while you loose your shirt.
Does 1929 all over again ring a Bell?
Take what ever resources you have and prepare for the collapse of
The Corpirate Empire.
The rats are leaving the sinking ship.
Dead eye to Bahrain and the shrub to Argentina.
Good riddance!
Invest in yourself and your community first.
Self sufficiency and self reliance is the key to survival.
Victory gardens.
Green energy.
Energy conservation.
Reduced consumption coupled with increased efficiency.
Kick the oil habit.
Get the Oil Monkey off our backs.
Kick them were it hurts!
In the gut first and then
In the wallet.
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» Amen. Just turn the shit off.
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Posted by: Sissy on Jan 30, 2008 5:23 AM
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Roger Ailes in his pre-network days epitimized political dirty tricks sleaze. I wondered how long it would take for his come-uppance and hopefully its just now beginning.
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Posted by: ronheri on Jan 30, 2008 5:49 AM
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» i think he was saying his wife is a bitch
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Posted by: smendler on Jan 30, 2008 6:02 AM
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Posted by: tiredangry on Jan 30, 2008 6:22 AM
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Posted by: mrcentrist on Jan 30, 2008 6:28 AM
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Posted by: halg on Jan 30, 2008 6:45 AM
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"We had to get rid of some characters here at Alternet," says Johsua Hoddaln, whose actual name is mispelled due to a malfunction in spellcheck. "We had to let some punctuation go as well. For instance we seem to be running out of properly placed commas which makes long sentences seem run-on. Other than that we are doing all right." Hoddaln [sic] says they cannot afford to spend time proofreading written work beofre it is posted, even if "it only takes a few seconds."
Despite these minor oversights, Altenret continues to offer an interesting and diverse array of articles on all topics relevant to politics and society by leading columnists and bloggers.
"We're not sure who this 'Ruy' Giuliani is," Hoddeln admits. "Maybe he is a brother of the former mayor. You never know. He must have slipped into the Republican race when we weren't looking."
Reader "halg" says he will continue to read Alternet anyway, finding the occassional typos by the otherwise commendable team to be amusing and fodder for clever retorts, adding that "proofreading seems to be a lost art in the 21st century."
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Posted by: carbon-based on Jan 30, 2008 7:18 AM
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Fox is the ONLY station that will present BOTH sides of a debate, thats what makes it compelling. CNN just can't seem to get hold of that and MSNBC is just to far left to be credible.
It's a formula that works..Just take a look at the lead Fox has over the other networks. There are spots where CNN or MSNBC(a surprise) is in the lead but overall Fox seem to have it.
http://insidecable.blogsome.com/category/ratings/
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Posted by: JDaniel on Jan 30, 2008 8:13 AM
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Hopefully, Fox will be relegated to the dark anals of history and remembered for the last five years. It is tempting to comparing Fox to the early Nazi speech writers and reporters who with alterior motives aided in the rise of a terrible leader and eventually led so many people down the corridors of death.
I hope our nation can survive the constant barage of hate and self-serving lies that are constantly being propagated at FOX. The true test of Democracy has been put in the grinder, while self serving politicians and power hunger news editors and publishers seek to maintain a strangle hold on power.
May God Save Our Nation from those who would destroy it by their words from within.
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» And Fox has the best scheme. Sleaze!
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Posted by: dockboy on Jan 30, 2008 8:32 AM
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The fact that you lunatics focus on Fox so much only fuels them on, and you generate more interest than necessary to one network's news. Get a grip, will you? If they bother you that much, ignore them completely. Jeez.
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Posted by: Dietrich on Jan 30, 2008 9:42 AM
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However, there are too many examples where media works against their own corporate interest for ratings for this to be the. Examples that destroy the left's model of media criticism can be had in the comparison of the relative amounts of coverage in the James Byrd murder and the Christian/Newsom murder.
If I bet everyone who read this article $100 that they would know about the James Byrd murder but wouldn't know about the Christian/Newsom murders, I could make some serious coin. I'll provide links. The point is that the Christian/Newsom murder last year was one of the most news-glorious stories of the decade, and it was hushed up by the media. They were too busy reporting the lacrosse rapes that never happened. Meanwhile, the rape/torture/murder of these two kids went unreported not because it wouldn't get ratings, but because it didn't fit the political agenda.
The media indeed have a political agenda. It is pro-war, but it isn't only out of corporate interest. "If it bleeds it leads," except for when the bleeders are ordinary white people.
Proof of concept here
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Posted by: trappedintwilightzone on Jan 30, 2008 11:14 AM
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My guy, Kucinich, is gone and I won't play the destructive role of a Naderite, pissing away my vote on a write-in. (Can you even write in on those black-hole voting machines?)
So if we have even a prayer of having a snowball's chance (how slim is that?!) of not cementing the neocon/uber-christian-fundamentalist fascist stranglehold on our nation and our future, we'd better get the lead out and go hell bent for Barack. Otherwise, we're heading over Niagara Falls on a bloody surfboard.
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Posted by: Cyre2067 on Jan 30, 2008 11:25 AM
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We see the same sort of infection in the democratic party - while they pretend to be opposition to the Ziocons they still downplay the Israeli genocide issue, support the 'official 9-11 conspiracy theory', and haven't acknowledged the warcrime/treason committed in the last 8 years. So we still have a long way to go imho.
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Posted by: Quannah on Jan 30, 2008 1:47 PM
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Can't happen soon enough! I'm planning the party, though!
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Posted by: Makan on Jan 30, 2008 5:14 PM
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They are mouthpieces for the ruling elite. This is not to say that the other major networks are any better. They are all for shit.
It was John Swinton(http://www.quoteland.com/author.asp?AUTHOR_ID=1400) who labelled journalists as "intellectual prostitutes".
All these outlets present the same news stories and basically the same advertisements for a wide host of pharmaceutical poisons for the masses.
In the end its lies, distortions, fearmongering and BS about Britney Spears, et.al. for news and expensive, useless, toxic drugs for the sheeples of Amerika.
Got to keep the public FAT, DUMB and HAPPY.
As the old say goes:
M=m3 MANIPULATION = MONEY x MEDIA x MANPOWER
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ...William Colby, former director of the CIA...
In television, how the head moves is more important than whats in it.
Dirty laundry everywhere and in the meanwhile the masses sleep as the destruction of America continue by the hidden hands of the ruling elite.
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Posted by: piggy on Jan 30, 2008 11:55 PM
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I cheer the demise of Fox, as i will all the nonsense on the other side of the same false narrative.
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Posted by: flymulla on Feb 2, 2008 1:12 PM
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As the head, states the TV are making the cash out of the heavily burdened taxpayers. They are told that Chinese toys have more lead; Hillary was having problem and called the husband to assist for the election. So did Obama. Called his wife. The Bush administration has failed in economy, soldiers are committing suicides and the Afghanistan troops have the criticism of having too little information. The elections from the classrooms and the churches (Caucuses) have been the classrooms for the voters as well. Americans are taught how to vote via TV. I mean America is not a new country. Americans need to be trained to vote? Is this TV gimmick or the net working overtime
I thank you
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Posted by: NoPCZone on Jan 30, 2008 1:51 AM
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Faux News-Right of Center
CNN- Left of Center
MSMBC- Far Left of Center
Reality
Faux News- Extreme Wingnut Right
CNN- Right of Center
MSNBC- Slightly Right of Center
FYI- CNBC is nothing to brag about. The take they pimp daily is so right wing NeoCon as to make a Faux Producer blush. They have also added unbiased to their tagline. Hosts are openly hostile to anyone not worshipping at the altar of Private Equity and Tax Cuts as the cure for all ills.
Unbiased Uh-huh
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Posted by: gazooks on Jan 30, 2008 3:46 AM
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No one does Bush standup better than Bush, can O'Reilly be far behind as the future funniest man on cable?
Do we really need writers when such authentic mindlessness proliferates?
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Either Murdoch knows which side their bread is buttered on, or News Corp has been reading up on Clinton's foreign policy--four more years of the War in Iraq! Hillary wants to put flag-burners in Federal prison, too, so I think Fox News would be much more comfortable with her than you might think.
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Jan 30, 2008 4:04 AM
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Conservative: GOOD. Liberal: BAD. Think of it as Mallard Fillmore in real time.
It was not like this in our parent's day. In that bygone, lost era, before the Triumph of Mediocrity (as Norman Corwin put it twenty years ago in the sub title of his well-written book, "Trivializing America"), the greatest generation went to the polls with - at the very least - a remedial knowledge of the issues important to their counrty. Today we are so susceptible to political propaganda and corporate-media influence, the main talking point of the last presidential campaign was John Kerry's innocent gaffe during the primary season: "I voted for the eighty-seven billion before I voted against it". A statement as innocuous as that would not have made so much as a blip on the political radar screens of 1960, 1972 or even 1984 for that matter.
Mah! Mah! The ol' plantation sho' has changed!
Tom Degan
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Posted by: HeKnew on Jan 30, 2008 4:07 AM
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They're organizing a town petition making President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney subject to arrest for crimes against the Constitution.
http://www.brattleboro.org/
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Posted by: Sushi on Jan 30, 2008 4:56 AM
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It all sounds like high-tech school yard gossip instead of news. You have to go to foreign sources to hear anything resembling a report on important issues. At least they don't dumb it down.
I don't even believe the report that Clinton won Florida. I don't know very many people who are big fans, but the media tells us she won, so "it must be troo." Who the hell knows at this point. It's probably just another sell job because the R's think they can beat her or steal the elections again, saying, "America is just not ready to have a female prez."
A pox on Fox.
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Posted by: Sushi on Jan 30, 2008 4:56 AM
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It all sounds like high-tech school yard gossip instead of news. You have to go to foreign sources to hear anything resembling a report on important issues. At least they don't dumb it down.
I don't even believe the report that Clinton won Florida. I don't know very many people who are big fans, but the media tells us she won, so "it must be troo." Who the hell knows at this point. It's probably just another sell job because the R's think they can beat her or steal the elections again, saying, "America is just not ready to have a female prez."
A pox on Fox.
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Posted by: Kuressaare on Jan 30, 2008 4:57 AM
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I would say my vision for Gibson would not even be multiple cardboard boxes; if Gibson causes his chief the least worry of anything on that list, he may have cause to reconsider one fine day. I will think on it, very deeply. People who would exhibit such hatred for people only playing parts in dramas (but why not cover real honest to god Gay men too?), are they a few cards short? The hatred they have stirred up, wow, I'd say ten out of ten from where I sit. Rest easy guys, all the money in the world will protect you (not at all). You remember the famous Uncle Louis who got blown to bits? In Ireland? Prince Charles very broken up? Uncle Louis as now confirmed in released secret papers,-- he knew about Dieppe and what would happen. Canada, was the big loser, at least 4000 slain like slaves in a pen. Althogh there is a Ronald Reagan movie showing how their few U.S. hundreds were the big winners and victors. Typical. We all knew it years ago, how the sand beach was to allow the landing party to disappear downwards quickly to avoid the machine guns. The sand was in fact river type rocks the size of softballs at least. No men wiggled anywhere, and at the top of the "beach" the German machine guns played sport of a sort. I prayed for years that Uncle Louis would go to Heaven (his variety), and by God, he did. The power of prayer, right. I am praying these Fox idiots into heaven as best I can.
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Posted by: williameon on Jan 30, 2008 5:15 AM
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What a lying pack of A-sholes.
Rupert the Pervert says it’s entertainment.
It is Grossly unbalanced,
Pure and unadulterated:
BU__! SH__!
What a decrepit old lying piece of cow dung.
This is what we are up against.
Dinosaurs spewing fossilized turds.
As far as the rest of the crass media is concerned,
They present two sides of the same coin.
The Media is a Fascist Conditioning Device that spews endless hypnotic propaganda.
Giving only the Cor‘pirate’ view point.
Things are great!
Just sit back and take it.
What’s great for them is bad for you.
They are purveyors of the Grand Delusion!
The illusion that we live in a free Country governed by and for the people.
It is HOAX and just the complete opposite.
We are Governed by crazy fascist crooks!
Hell bent on Destroying us and the world.
They all sit there and clap for The Fuhrer.
While the country is going to hell in a hand basket and our freedom flushed down the sewer.
Like nothing happened.
Smug in their deceit.
Assassins: one and all.
Anyone who goes along with this charade should be
Tarred, feathered and run out of town on a rail.
We live in a Military Media Dictatorship.
Just like the ones they've supported all around the world.
Our system is being run by vicious ruthless criminals.
Who are committing crimes against the American people and Humanity everyday.
They are the lowest of the low.
Dead Eye and The Shrub.
They’ve killed millions at the drop of a hat.
Who else do you think, would do their dirty work?
Einstein? The Buddha? Christ?
The Shrub has given you a glimpse into their private reality!
The truth in his own words:
“They write History.”
“They are above the law.”
They pull the strings that make you jump.
They control the talking heads.
They control the coinversation.
How do we fight back?
First,
SHUT IT OFF!
Then Divest yourselves from any of their Corpirate Garbage.
Stop investing in the Schlock Market!
Where they make a killing while you loose your shirt.
Does 1929 all over again ring a Bell?
Take what ever resources you have and prepare for the collapse of
The Corpirate Empire.
The rats are leaving the sinking ship.
Dead eye to Bahrain and the shrub to Argentina.
Good riddance!
Invest in yourself and your community first.
Self sufficiency and self reliance is the key to survival.
Victory gardens.
Green energy.
Energy conservation.
Reduced consumption coupled with increased efficiency.
Kick the oil habit.
Get the Oil Monkey off our backs.
Kick them were it hurts!
In the gut first and then
In the wallet.
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» Amen. Just turn the shit off.
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Posted by: Sissy on Jan 30, 2008 5:23 AM
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Roger Ailes in his pre-network days epitimized political dirty tricks sleaze. I wondered how long it would take for his come-uppance and hopefully its just now beginning.
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» "shrill fish-wife?"
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» i think he was saying his wife is a bitch
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» RE: Fox News will help The Decider
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» Seems TheDreamer has a 'tude just like Bill O'Reilly...
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» Either way is quite possible.
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Posted by: halg on Jan 30, 2008 6:45 AM
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"We had to get rid of some characters here at Alternet," says Johsua Hoddaln, whose actual name is mispelled due to a malfunction in spellcheck. "We had to let some punctuation go as well. For instance we seem to be running out of properly placed commas which makes long sentences seem run-on. Other than that we are doing all right." Hoddaln [sic] says they cannot afford to spend time proofreading written work beofre it is posted, even if "it only takes a few seconds."
Despite these minor oversights, Altenret continues to offer an interesting and diverse array of articles on all topics relevant to politics and society by leading columnists and bloggers.
"We're not sure who this 'Ruy' Giuliani is," Hoddeln admits. "Maybe he is a brother of the former mayor. You never know. He must have slipped into the Republican race when we weren't looking."
Reader "halg" says he will continue to read Alternet anyway, finding the occassional typos by the otherwise commendable team to be amusing and fodder for clever retorts, adding that "proofreading seems to be a lost art in the 21st century."
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» And tons of rotting bullshit is a positive? How?
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» Dude! It Was a Joke!
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Posted by: carbon-based on Jan 30, 2008 7:18 AM
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Fox is the ONLY station that will present BOTH sides of a debate, thats what makes it compelling. CNN just can't seem to get hold of that and MSNBC is just to far left to be credible.
It's a formula that works..Just take a look at the lead Fox has over the other networks. There are spots where CNN or MSNBC(a surprise) is in the lead but overall Fox seem to have it.
http://insidecable.blogsome.com/category/ratings/
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» Even if Millions of Americans Are Fooled: Does Popularity Justify Blood On Your Hands?
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» FOX Galvanized Popular Support Based on Lies, More Then Any Other Networks
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» numbers and ratings?
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» As an American,
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» News sources.
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» it was supposed to be funny....
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Posted by: JDaniel on Jan 30, 2008 8:13 AM
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Hopefully, Fox will be relegated to the dark anals of history and remembered for the last five years. It is tempting to comparing Fox to the early Nazi speech writers and reporters who with alterior motives aided in the rise of a terrible leader and eventually led so many people down the corridors of death.
I hope our nation can survive the constant barage of hate and self-serving lies that are constantly being propagated at FOX. The true test of Democracy has been put in the grinder, while self serving politicians and power hunger news editors and publishers seek to maintain a strangle hold on power.
May God Save Our Nation from those who would destroy it by their words from within.
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» And Fox has the best scheme. Sleaze!
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Posted by: dockboy on Jan 30, 2008 8:32 AM
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The fact that you lunatics focus on Fox so much only fuels them on, and you generate more interest than necessary to one network's news. Get a grip, will you? If they bother you that much, ignore them completely. Jeez.
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Posted by: Dietrich on Jan 30, 2008 9:42 AM
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However, there are too many examples where media works against their own corporate interest for ratings for this to be the. Examples that destroy the left's model of media criticism can be had in the comparison of the relative amounts of coverage in the James Byrd murder and the Christian/Newsom murder.
If I bet everyone who read this article $100 that they would know about the James Byrd murder but wouldn't know about the Christian/Newsom murders, I could make some serious coin. I'll provide links. The point is that the Christian/Newsom murder last year was one of the most news-glorious stories of the decade, and it was hushed up by the media. They were too busy reporting the lacrosse rapes that never happened. Meanwhile, the rape/torture/murder of these two kids went unreported not because it wouldn't get ratings, but because it didn't fit the political agenda.
The media indeed have a political agenda. It is pro-war, but it isn't only out of corporate interest. "If it bleeds it leads," except for when the bleeders are ordinary white people.
Proof of concept here
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My guy, Kucinich, is gone and I won't play the destructive role of a Naderite, pissing away my vote on a write-in. (Can you even write in on those black-hole voting machines?)
So if we have even a prayer of having a snowball's chance (how slim is that?!) of not cementing the neocon/uber-christian-fundamentalist fascist stranglehold on our nation and our future, we'd better get the lead out and go hell bent for Barack. Otherwise, we're heading over Niagara Falls on a bloody surfboard.
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Posted by: Cyre2067 on Jan 30, 2008 11:25 AM
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We see the same sort of infection in the democratic party - while they pretend to be opposition to the Ziocons they still downplay the Israeli genocide issue, support the 'official 9-11 conspiracy theory', and haven't acknowledged the warcrime/treason committed in the last 8 years. So we still have a long way to go imho.
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Can't happen soon enough! I'm planning the party, though!
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Posted by: Makan on Jan 30, 2008 5:14 PM
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They are mouthpieces for the ruling elite. This is not to say that the other major networks are any better. They are all for shit.
It was John Swinton(http://www.quoteland.com/author.asp?AUTHOR_ID=1400) who labelled journalists as "intellectual prostitutes".
All these outlets present the same news stories and basically the same advertisements for a wide host of pharmaceutical poisons for the masses.
In the end its lies, distortions, fearmongering and BS about Britney Spears, et.al. for news and expensive, useless, toxic drugs for the sheeples of Amerika.
Got to keep the public FAT, DUMB and HAPPY.
As the old say goes:
M=m3 MANIPULATION = MONEY x MEDIA x MANPOWER
"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ...William Colby, former director of the CIA...
In television, how the head moves is more important than whats in it.
Dirty laundry everywhere and in the meanwhile the masses sleep as the destruction of America continue by the hidden hands of the ruling elite.
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I cheer the demise of Fox, as i will all the nonsense on the other side of the same false narrative.
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» And the censorship here is the same as the wingnut sites.
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» With the above in mind...
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As the head, states the TV are making the cash out of the heavily burdened taxpayers. They are told that Chinese toys have more lead; Hillary was having problem and called the husband to assist for the election. So did Obama. Called his wife. The Bush administration has failed in economy, soldiers are committing suicides and the Afghanistan troops have the criticism of having too little information. The elections from the classrooms and the churches (Caucuses) have been the classrooms for the voters as well. Americans are taught how to vote via TV. I mean America is not a new country. Americans need to be trained to vote? Is this TV gimmick or the net working overtime
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