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The Audacity of Oprah

By Patricia Williams, The Nation. Posted December 19, 2007.


Are people upset that Oprah's jumped into the political fray?
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This Christmas, the film The Great Debaters will come to theaters nationwide. Starring Denzel Washington and produced by Oprah Winfrey, it tells the story of an award-winning team of debaters from Wiley College, a small, historically black institution founded in 1873 and located in Marshall, Texas. In the 1930s the debate team, coached by poet Melvin Tolson, surpassed nearly every other team in the country in contests against universities as far-flung as the University of Southern California and Oxford. Nonetheless, the Wiley team was never officially accorded championship status because the national debate society of that day did not formally recognize black participation. Though unrewarded then, many of the graduates of Wiley's debate team went on to become the most eloquently influential movers in the civil rights movement, most notably James Farmer Jr., who founded the Congress of Racial Equality.

Recently the New York Times ran a front-page story titled For Struggling Black College, Hopes of Big-Screen Revival; it was about the effect that the film is having, even before its release, on Wiley College today. Wiley did not fare well through the 1980s and '90s and came very close to closing. Thanks to the glow of celebrity interest, however, the school's buildings have been handsomely refurbished, Wal-Mart has promised to set up a scholarship fund and enrollment has suddenly doubled. The Times story ends with a moving description of a young woman about to graduate, of her plans to attend medical school, of the room Wiley has given her to dream.

It's a feel-good story, no doubt: a very satisfying saga of the aspiring little engine that could, then did -- and still had to wait all these years to be heralded for its remarkable accomplishment. It's also a story that plugs into a deeply iconic American narrative: the battered underdog picked up, brushed off and ultimately saved by the success of the spotlight -- and nary a moment too soon. The story is also iconically American in the way it loops between reality and Hollywood dream. The real Wiley College gets legitimated in its educational mission by virtue of a fictionalized representation.

The role of media, particularly the entertainment media, in allowing us to understand our civic life is not to be underestimated. Great actors, great orators and great businessmen draw upon similar thespian skills -- it's what makes them likable, salable, commercial. We Americans shovel money at those who can best perform our fantasies.

I say all this because I'm intrigued by the brouhaha attending Oprah Winfrey's decision to endorse Barack Obama's candidacy. The Internet is positively foaming at her decision to campaign for him. Celebrities -- from Toby Keith to Sammy Davis Jr., from Barbra Streisand to Jon Bon Jovi -- have always stumped for candidates, but a lot of people seem to feel that Oprah is different. She's not a background singer; she is no mere decorative backdrop. Oprah can turn a book into a bestseller!, fume the blogs. When she lends her magic touch, it's somehow complicated or even unfair. I suspect that some of the controversy comes from those who like Obama and don't relate to Oprah's television persona, or vice versa. But it's interesting to contemplate: what does it mean that some people are so concerned about whether this particular celebrity ought to express herself in the political realm?


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Oprah is a Strong, Influential, Black Woman,
Posted by: grangersmith on Dec 19, 2007 12:51 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I stopped watching Oprah, so long ago, I can't remember when, somewhere in the early 90's, but once in a blue moon I would catch a show...This woman is an icon, a powerful unofficial mayor of Chicago, IL...I was on a business trip in Chicago years ago and there was so much local news about Oprah, in the city that it was mind boggling. She knows just what she is doing, she also knows that she can reach the white housewife, and their husbands better than any black person in American history...They don't see her as a object, a black woman(in the sense of being exclusive)they see her as a every woman, like her theme song, it is the theme song for a reason. Her show transcends the boundries of black and white, and yet Oprah, in no way pretends to be anything other than who she is. She is a black woman, with a brutal story of childhood, and struggle and ambition. She has told her story, and she has touched others for being who she is, and she is inclusive...She has made the claim for all women they relate, it's a woman thing! Hey I know an elderly 86 year old woman who is pretty racist, I don't like that at all about her, and tell her so...But she loves Oprah, watches her show every day. The elderly racist has been touched by the Oprah truth, and cannot look at Oprah as anything but another woman, a human, that's the magic of Oprah!!!Even though I do not watch her, I love her and respect her, I see what she has done and is doing the woman is great!!!She has done so much for the Black community, than any African American has ever done, so why are any Black or White leaders criticizing her? I think she has taken a chance, and knows all too well what is going to be involved in her stepping out of her mild political stance...She has always edged on the political, but it has been subtle...She is a bridge builder, and she is a universal symbol of the one mother, the first mother!!!All I can say, is "Leave her alone, Leave her alone..." do I have to make a Utube video about her? Also I think Obama is great! Yea!!!

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our better selves
Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Dec 19, 2007 2:48 AM   
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she is influential. she believes in a cause, albeit, this time, a political one.

much ado about nothing.

perhaps it's really the wonderful facination from the remnants of those of us who have seen the 'whites only' water fountains removed to a billionairess who transcends the ugly past we, who can remember, the ascent of the negro, through to the colored, the black, the afro-american, the african-american, to full status as 'one of us' we claim as simply as an american. she represents, to some of us, our better selves, free of our own past and prejudices. she is oprah. she is what she aspires to. she is us, our better selves. and it makes us feel there is hope in america.

perhaps that is her point.

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Oprah's judgment
Posted by: richieb on Dec 19, 2007 5:23 AM   
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I'm not at all upset that Oprah gets involved in politics. I know she does a lot of good things - but before trusting her opinion you should consider her judgement.

She is the one who promoted "Million Little Pieces" (or whatever that book was called) - the fake memoir. She is the one who promoted the book "Secret" - you that's the book that says if you want something, just imagine it and you'll get it (is this the advice she gives to Obama?).

In interest of full disclosure I should say that I don not watch her show at all, although my daugther makes me watch some clips here and there.

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» As the old saying goes... Posted by: WhuThe?!?
Heaven forbid! Oprah gets political!
Posted by: fearless flower on Dec 19, 2007 5:49 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
How dare she remind us out here in media land that life isn't all about finding the best way to make ourselves look and feel good after all? To suggest by her own example that we might all have a responsibility to discern who might be the best leader for this country and then stick our neck out and back that candidate? To RISK our reputation and our livlihood for something we believe in?

There goes one of the most comfy refuges for couch sitting America. No longer can we feel OK about being unconcerned with politics. With Oprah leading the charge, a lot of us are just going to have to get our behinds up off the couch and pay some serious attention to the race for the White House. Maybe even make sure we are registered to vote.

Good for you Oprah. I may not agree with your candidate, but I like your new direction.

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this is the woman who gave us james frey, "the secret" and dr phil
Posted by: nubbsgalore on Dec 19, 2007 5:51 AM   
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her track record is spotty at best.

and for a woman who talks so much about god and praying, she sure seems to be obsessed with consumerism. who needs five 30+ million dollar homes? anyone who watches her knows she out of touch with the common chicagoan and american.

ps anybody seen that scene in the "the beloved" where she takes that monster piss. that was one of the funniest things i have ever seen.

pss in her defense, i like dr oz, and the awareness of glbt issues and spousal abuse her show creates.

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» clueless Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
I Laugh Out Loud
Posted by: dancingcloud on Dec 19, 2007 6:06 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I laugh out loud when I hear people calling for celebs to stay out of politics. That would have been great if it started with our C-rated actor in B-rated movies Mr. President Ronald Reagan. Oprah can and should do anything she damn well pleases because she has helped build a better world in so many ways that her history will have to written in volumnes. When I watch her show, I am fully cognizant of the fact that I'm sharing the hour with 40 million women worldwide. Sometimes I touch the TV to enhance the electric connection between us all. Obama is a good and decent gentleman, brilliant and self-sacrificing. It's not like she's supporting a war monger or racist. I say "GO OPRAH!"

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» RE: I Laugh Out Loud Posted by: Life48
What about the celebrities who back this monster in the White House?
Posted by: Ellie1 on Dec 19, 2007 7:00 AM   
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Why aren't you writing about THEM? I prefer Oprah to be politically involved-it is a relief from the fashion and trivia she often has on her show.

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» duh. read the title Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
Jerry Brown (CA gov'na) was all buddy buddy
Posted by: veggiegrrrl on Dec 19, 2007 7:09 AM   
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Jerry Brown (CA gov'na) was all buddy buddy with Linda Ronstadt, the Eagles, Jackson Browne, etc..

It's natural that celebs end up backing or scathing politicians. At least THEY have a voice we don't have.

GO OPRAH!

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Why Not?
Posted by: Southern Gal on Dec 19, 2007 8:43 AM   
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Celebrities who are citizens of this country have the right to speak out and to back the candidate of their choice. Oprah is not the first to do this. If Oprah's endorsement can get more people out to vote in this country that's a very good thing. This is an election that we can't sleep through or ignore. It is critical for this country to get the neo cons, conservatives and the GOP follow-over-the-cliff crowd, as well as the Republican Lite, continue the war and bow to corporate leadership Democrats out of the White House. That doesn't leave very many candidates to choose from and to actively support. We the people certainly haven't been able to get substantive issues on the table. It would be ideal if celebrities could get some major issues in the spotlight and continue to focus on them until they are discussed in something other than sound bites.

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Celebrate Oprah for the right reasons.
Posted by: monkeywrench on Dec 19, 2007 9:42 AM   
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When people react against Oprah's endorsement of Obama, I feel that it is not because she is black or because she is a celebrity.

Many people react negatively to the expression of overarching ambition and unbounded ego; and, unfortunately, that's the way Oprah comes off too often: as the self-appointed, self-annointed Queen of Culture. Too often we have that queasy feeling that whatever she does, it is all about HER, not the recipients of her largesse.

Case in point: Her news conference concerning the molestation of girls by a teacher at her new school in Africa. To be fair, the school was a marvelous undertaking, and she could not have known beforehand that a teacher at the school would commit such a terrible act. But, in her news conference the vast majority of what I heard from her was about what Oprah was feeling, how Oprah was reacting, how upsetting the incident was for OPRAH – but, unless I zoned out, I recall hearing precious little being said by her about what the girls or their parents were going through.

I suspect that it is the impression of self-centeredness and self-promotion that puts people off Oprah, not her accomplishments – which should be acknowledged.

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Oprah & Obama: Corporate Marketing for a Corporate Campaign
Posted by: iamjmbb on Dec 19, 2007 9:44 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
try this on!!!
Oprah & Obama: Corporate Marketing for a Corporate Campaign
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?
SectionID=90&ItemID=14492

and/or this:

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=14316
Establishment Politics in “Rebel’s Clothing:” Corporate Power, Populist Pandering, and the Ironies of Identity in the Democratic Presidential Race

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» slanted and biased 'journalism' Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
Oprah loses nothing supporting Obama she didn't already lose putting a serial pedophile on
Posted by: xbj on Dec 19, 2007 10:30 AM   
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Oprah lost the respect of millions of viewers when she had the amazingly poor judgment to put Michael Jackson on her show during the FIRST pedophile scandal to help "clear" his name. AS IF. At least she had the brains to never had OJ on to tell "his side of the story".

Supporting a man that couldn't possibly be President in a still very racist America until at least 2016 (and after serving TWO terms as Veep at that) is the very LEAST of Oprah's problems. I've SEEN the age of the majority of voters in this country, and Obama doesn't have a chance in hell. Which is why there is so much big GOP money behind him. Even a great deal of black voters don't trust him because they seem him as a big fat unknown. Especially the older black voters.

No, it's Hillary the enemy is really petrified of. There's no offense or defense against the longest run of peacetime prosperity and economic expansion in American history. NONE.

And older voter's memories are not as short as the young and ignorant. Obama's positions are folly when it comes to the polls and winning elections. Truth be told, they're exactly the same as Hillary's. She just isn't saying it until she gets there, when she will not say, but DO.

And THAT wisdom comes from HARD experience.

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» millions of viewers-pfft! Posted by: KaptainSpiffy
Nothing Upsetting About Oprah
Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com on Dec 19, 2007 10:44 AM   
Current rating: 3    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Once again, some people are upset that Oprah Winfrey, a celebrity, is dabbling (or experimenting) with politics. Well, why not? Do we Yanks have attention deficit disorder? What could we say about Ronald Reagan then?
If she decides to run, I may vote for her. What's our alternative? John McCain? Milt Romney? Joe Lieberman? Ugh.
Our country has always been about celebrities, first and foremost, and she's no exception. Other prominent people have stuck their noses (and wallets) into politics. How come you're not whining about the others now?
Relax, folks. She is NOT running, only endorsing a person whom she thinks can make this crummy country (and the world) a better place to live and offer hope for future generations.

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Who cares?
Posted by: Azraelsjudgement on Dec 19, 2007 10:54 AM   
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Oprah is just someone who makes alot of money on TV and tells people what to do. If you vote for Obama because Oprah backs him thats no different then voting for a neocon because a evangelical preachers backs them. Who cares who promotes who.
Vote for the person who best represents you, your fellow citizens, and the constitution.

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» RE: Who cares? We all will. Posted by: symcokid
» RE: Who cares? Posted by: Knot_Rich
Obama and McCain in the presidential race
Posted by: Sociallibertarian on Dec 19, 2007 10:55 AM   
Current rating: 4    [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
I read Andrew Sullivan’s most enlightening article in The Atlantic.

Goodbye to All That

He explained to me the strange polarisation of US politics that I have not understood. In fact as he points out there is no polarisation among ordinary Americans, they are in agreement.

Andrew Sullivan:

“On domestic policy, the primary issue is health care. Again, the ferocious rhetoric belies the mundane reality”

“A large consensus in America favors legal abortions during the first trimester and varying restrictions thereafter. …..If Roe were to fall, the primary impact would be the end of a system more liberal than any in Europe in favor of one more in sync with the varied views that exist across this country.”


“On marriage, the battles in the states are subsiding, as a bevy of blue states adopt either civil marriage or civil unions for gay couples, and the rest stand pat.”

“Given this quiet, evolving consensus on policy, how do we account for the bitter, brutal tone of American politics? The answer lies mainly with the biggest and most influential generation in America: the Baby Boomers. The divide is still—amazingly—between those who fought in Vietnam and those who didn’t, and between those who fought and dissented and those who fought but never dissented at all. By defining the contours of the Boomer generation, it lasted decades. And with time came a strange intensity. ”

“The traces of our long journey to this juncture can be found all around us. Its most obvious manifestation is political rhetoric. The high temperature—Bill O’Reilly’s nightly screeds against anti-Americans on one channel, Keith Olbermann’s “Worst Person in the World” on the other; MoveOn.org’s “General Betray Us” on the one side, Ann Coulter’s Treason on the other; Michael Moore’s accusation of treason at the core of the Iraq War, Sean Hannity’s assertion of treason in the opposition to it—is particularly striking when you examine the generally minor policy choices on the table. Something deeper and more powerful than the actual decisions we face is driving the tone of the debate”

Giuliani, Edwards and Clinton will only perpetuate the battle in eternity. It is time to throw out the Ann Coulters and Michael Moores.

To stop this culture war we need Barack Obama as presidential candidate for the Democrats and John McCain for the Republicans.

Kick the Baby Boomers out the door, lock it and do not let them in again.

I am sick and tired of the 1968 generation, its racial war, its Cultural War, its unsound economic ideas. Its polarization of none issues. I am neither Blue nor Red, I am purple as most people are.

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» RE: THIS TIME YOU ARE DEAD RIGHT, ANNA. Posted by: Sociallibertarian
niliadis? How long will it take before you TROLL for Clinton?
Posted by: Prairie Waif on Dec 19, 2007 11:30 AM   
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niliadis,

I am waiting for your TROLLING for Clinton.

Are you that guy that "resigned" after slamming Obama all weekend?

Oh, WAIT! When you are needed in N.H. (or where ever it is that your wife is Governor) we will see you on the Clinton "advisor" board again, slamming Obama from the "front lines."

Until then? We will suffer with your trolling here.

*Gaff*

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She's A Person, Too
Posted by: dockboy on Dec 19, 2007 11:33 AM   
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I may not be a fan of Oprah (or Obama, for that matter), but she's a person with a right to express her opinion. The Clintons have had celebrities highlight their fundraisers and rallies for years. Now Obama gets a huge celebrity endorsement, and Clinton and their supporters are fuming. They can't tolerate anyone not playing by their rules. I say good for Oprah. Getting Magic Johnson to tour with them in response is only comical.

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Good Reason To Be Upset
Posted by: Jeff Hoffman on Dec 19, 2007 11:43 AM   
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First, I don't generally watch TV programs, though I've seen pieces of Oprah Winfrey's show, and I did see the one with the former cattle rancher who's become a vegan.

That said, I certainly know who Oprah is. I'm not at all upset that she's gotten involved in politics or made an endorsement, but I AM upset that she endorsed a right wing candidate like Obama. I loathe identity politics, because it has caused a move to the right and has done significant harm to progressive politics. Additionally, not only is endorsing someone because he or she is of the same race, ethnicity, or gender self-serving, it's also self-defeating.

As president, a candidate like Dennis Kucinich or, to a lesser extent, John Edwards, would do far more for the majority of black people in the U.S., than Barak Obama would. Supporting Obama because he's black makes as much sense as supporting Uncle Clarence Thomas for the same reason. More importantly, Obama would continue harmful policies such as keeping troops and bases in Iraq and increasing military spending. Even from the narrow perspective of just wanting to help blacks, these are bad policies, because that money should be used for anti-poverty programs, like good education, provision of well-paying jobs to underprivileged people, and medical care.

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Obama was set-up to take out Hillary; Oprah fell for it
Posted by: odcherenow on Dec 19, 2007 11:58 AM   
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This is all about the power brokers drive to "take out Hillary" and Oprah has been drawn into the fray. These traditional power brokers, of both parties, are petrified to have a woman attain the presidency, especially a highly qualified woman. Just look at the tracks in the snow.
The "deciders" in the D Party took Obama from obscurity and gave him the national visibility of Keynote Speaker @ last convention. Before that few had heard of him.
The goal is to have Obama draw votes away from Hillary in the Primaries so that one of the white males, most probably Edwards, will get the nomination. Then we are back in their comfort zone, all white males running and we know what that will bring; we have 300+ years of his story on that.
What are the women in this country thinking of?
Women are 51% of the population and constitute 56% to 63% of those who vote, consistently!
Women have been elected presidents or prime ministers all over the world, especially lately.
Not in your lifetime will you have another chance to elect one of your own, as credible and experienced as Hillary, to the top spot. 27 years of research on women candidates has shown me that women, of any party and persuasion, vote different from all men of any party and persuasion on a basket of critical issues: education, healthcare, elderly services, childcare and equal pay. If the power brokers strategy works, we won't give ourselves the opportunity to find out how a woman can govern here.

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» Female Supremacists, no thank you Posted by: Sociallibertarian
» SHHHHHHHHHHHH you will give it away. Posted by: Ky Lake Dave
Oprah: Another Demagogue
Posted by: rhinojos on Dec 19, 2007 1:14 PM   
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How can people keep treating Oprah as if she's their fairy godmother? They buy her products and buy the book-of-the-Oprah because she gives them her stamp of approval. What morons!

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Educating Oprah
Posted by: peacelf on Dec 19, 2007 1:34 PM   
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I have no problem with celebrities supporting candidates, especially celebrities who understand the issues. However, Oprah understands the issues yet supports a candidate who does not share her understanding of issues like, say, health care.

Oprah recently had Michael Moore on her program, agreed with Moore that we need a universal single payer system, yet she supports a candidate who is in the pockets of the health insurance industry.

Certainly she has a right to support whomever she wants, but, so far, all I can see is that she is backing Obama because he is black and from Chicago (and a Democrat?).

Many black intellectuals, Cornell West, Michael Eric Dyson, say they want to see a "brother" elected to president, but the issues are important, too. Oprah seems to be playing it safe.

Oprah is in tune with her white audience; that explains her broad appeal. However, she refuses to stand up on certain issues that could/would damage her relationship with that audience. As Chris Rock says, Oprah is rich, but she's not wealthy. Someone with more money pays her and that someone is white male owners of the television network. In other words, she imposes her own sanctions are what she talks about in order to contiunue getting paid.

Needless to say, she wants to help others, but her income is dependent on her silence on certain issues like racism and sexism. It's a shame that the black and female candidates for president have less to offer progressives than a little white guy from Cleveland, Dennis Kucinich.

It's a sign of the times, but Kucinich represents the future and Oprah represents, well, nothing that I can see.

peace

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» RE: ducating Oprah Posted by: Wexler
Oprah and Obama: It's OREO time once again for our Uncle Tom's!
Posted by: sofla100 on Dec 19, 2007 4:33 PM   
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Since when has Oprah really taken a stand against racism or the exploitation of workers in third world crap holes? I am not talking either about the "der riger" cosmetic talk typical of politicos, but strong words endorsed by strong action (like boycotts). Now, Oprah has learned how to milk the whitey system and most importantly for Whitey, to keep "her mouth shut." And Whitey has rewarded her well, the money keeps pouring in. Same for Obama, a bunch of flowery rhetoric, but what is this guy really going to do that will make a difference? I don't care if he is good with his words, that is not good enough! The fact that America stands for it, just points to the rigidity of the status quo. Obama and Oprah define the acceptable limits of black success in America and they know it. They know what to say, how to act, and how to dance for Whitey.

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betruetoyou
Posted by: beetruetoyou on Dec 20, 2007 6:31 AM   
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Good for Oprah, good for Obama, good for us. I'm glad she's taken the risk of coming out politically. Obama is a candidate finally worth coming out for. Sometimes a person's just gotta take a stand and I admire her for doing it even though she'll undoubtedly have hell to pay. Some things are just too important to stay silent about.I admire her for recognizing and honoring what she can no longer keep quiet. There will be people yapping about it but only those who are concerned that it might actually have an impact. Otherwise, what is the point of the yapping? It IS a free country, at least it used to be and I've never read in a celebrity's code of ethics that they are not allowed to support a candidate. If her fame and fortune suffer as a result, I don't think she'll be too bothered. I think she can rest pretty comfortably from here on out and if people dislike her for doing it, so what. The right thing to do is the right thing to do.

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who cares what some people think!
Posted by: hemnebob on Dec 20, 2007 7:54 AM   
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I give her alot of credit for doing this.
Right now she is busier than I would wish on anyone and her energy and sincerity is genuine.
No special interests here except for the good of the American people. For all the skeptics out there who doubt her? They are skeptical about everything and I would ponder that they are probably having problems with someone of color to sit in the 'white'house anyways. Those types of Americans voted in the present pitiful president and his stinkin staff and look what they are doing to this great country now!
I want change from what it is to what it can be...
bush is going to leave our country in a recession and strangled from fixing it for a few years and we have all those morons for voting for him twice to blame for it...i blame bush too but those idiots made the same mistake twice...

no mistake here.
i wanted obama before she went to iowa.
the fact that she is making her preference public makes it all the more better!!

IMPEACH BUSHCHENEY...


OBAMA FOR US

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I'm just glad she isn't out campaigning for
Posted by: WhuThe?!? on Dec 20, 2007 2:32 PM   
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warmonger hillary. Before hillary started campaigning I saw Oprah tell her on her show that she hoped she would run for president. Way to go Oprah, supporting somebody with Iraqi blood dripping off her hands. Does Oprah's support for that warmonging 'democrat' traitor mean she thinks imperialism and murder is okay? And this happened before hillary started acting like she was against the war! (and after hillary was calling for more troops) Anyway, I'm glad Oprah has turned around and is not supporting warmonger hillary, although she really should be supporting the only really decent candidate out there--Kucinich. Could ya'll imagine if she had continued pushing for the warmonger? People are so naive and she has such a following, the warmonger would end up the democrat candidate, god forbid. Thanks for distracting the fools Oprah!

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Outrider
Posted by: outrider on Dec 20, 2007 2:34 PM   
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JUST ANOTHER LOBBYIST

Being a celeb is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition to qualify as an expert in governmental affairs. It is like having enough money to buy power. Neither celebrityhood nor money can substitute for statemanship.

Oprah is not directly running for President but she might as well be. She is using her money and celebrityhood to promote and enhance her wealth and power to control significant others. She has no more kowledge of nor exerience in statesmanship than the medicine man she is promoting.

People who are screaming for change just for the sake of change are hell bent to substitute ineptness for corruption. As far as the People are concerned, one is as bad as the other.

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Everyone has opinions - Oprah too
Posted by: Ames on Dec 20, 2007 3:41 PM   
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Is it any wonder she has ideas and opinions about politics? She's a citizen too, and though a very powerful one, should be no more or less special for choosing to state her opinions on the matter.

Many celebrities and highly visible public figures have opinions on politics and speak about it, as is their prerogative as a citizen. So long as they are careful and measured in the way they go about it, I don't see what the problem is. It's a weapon both sides of politics have used for years - well liked public figures as visible and vocal supporters.

As a woman, and as a black woman, Oprah brings something to the table that hasn't been there before. Despite how I feel about much of what she does on the show (don't get me started on Dr Phil and 'The Secret') I think her coming out and voicing her opinions is a good thing. As such a public figure it's good to know where she stands.

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Oprah's Track Record
Posted by: SirGrifflet on Dec 20, 2007 5:04 PM   
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While Oprah is certainly worthy of admiration for her success, trusting her judgement might be a somewhat different matter. Her involvement hawking the book without proper vetting of the author whose book turned out to be a pack of distortions if not outright lies, her advancing the career and reputation of the Doctor implicated in the death of Kanye West's' mother by profiling him on her show without sufficient background checking, and the recent allegations of sexual abuse of the students at her African girls academy, show that sometimes Oprah might respond emotionally with her heart to events, causes or people rather than intellectually with her head. Not necessarily the best method for deciding who to support for President of The United States. While these attributes might be acceptable in a talk show host politics is an entirely different and grander stage. The mistakes relating to Oprah's lapses in judgement while serious -- Ms. West did die and children were molested, though Oprah is not in any way totally responsible for those events -- should cause both her and us to be more wary than just accepting that if Oprah is involved it must be ok. We need to more diligently vet Oprah's ideas and recommendations than she has done in the past.


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OPIE Wears White Face!
Posted by: williameon on Dec 21, 2007 3:03 AM   
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Color me Yurple!
I like The Big O,
I think he would make a good vice president like Hillery would.
Let's see how they do in the back seat first!
As far as substance goes,
It's,
Dennis the Menace
or
Mr. Ed.

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this isn't about Oprah
Posted by: jcvelson on Dec 21, 2007 9:44 AM   
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When you get right down to it, this isn't about Oprah. This about our way of doing politics taking a giant leap farther away from issues based discussion and honest examination of the candidate's stands on the issues and a giant leap toward unreality. Why should Oprah or any of the other celebrities be accorded such sway? If Oprah or any other celebrity wants to use their status improve the democratic process they should be doing things to promote honest debate and discussion.

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Oprah is a walking info-merical
Posted by: Sunnydayz on Dec 21, 2007 10:56 PM   
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Everyone has a right to get politically active so I certainly dont take issue with her for that.

My problem with her is that she is nothing more than a commercial. The car give-away is a prime example. Most people dont realize they are actually just watching a commerical.

I guess I just dont have much patience for those that sell themselves out to corporate corruption and willingly perform so much stealth marketing.

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So what? is right
Posted by: doctorsquared on Dec 22, 2007 9:08 AM   
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Who cares if one member of the ruling class endorses another member of the ruling class? Our votes count for nothing anyway.

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What's really going on here?
Posted by: edpierce on Dec 22, 2007 12:17 PM   
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Can Black Americans who are so influential that they are considered to be "honorary" White Americans" endorse American presidential candidates? Of course. Can Black Americans who are so influential that they are considered to be honorary White Americans endorse nonwhite American presidential candidates? Apparently not if they want to continue to be Black Americans who are so influential that they are considered to be "honorary" White Americans.

In endorsing Obama, Oprah is forcing White Americans to confront the fact that she is a Black American, and that white racism continues to be the most serious problem facing the United States.

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Oprah is intitled to her opinion.
Posted by: Ky Lake Dave on Dec 22, 2007 3:28 PM   
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I would never ever vote for Obama. That said Oprah is a wonderful woman with a great heart. If she feels strongly in supporting Obama then she has the right like any other American to back her candidate. I truly believe that she does not have a hidden agenda. I am sure she is following her heart. Who has the right to tell her not to use her 1st amendment right of free speech to express her strong positive feelings for Obama.
I think Obama is a snake oil salesman that is hiding behind several masks. I think that the simple act of not placing his hand over his heart while the national anthem is playing speaks volumes to the distain he feels for our country. I think his refusal to wear the flag pin that every other congressman and senator wear is shameful and disrespectful to the people he represents.

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I don't be grudge Oprah her political opinions or activism
Posted by: gillianr on Dec 24, 2007 4:10 PM   
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I just can't believe people are buying this shit about Obama being the Second Coming. I like him fine, but he's not going to change jack.

LOLOL. We Americans do love to self deceive.

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