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Is The Onion America's Most Intelligent Newspaper?
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Almost 20 years later, The Onion stands as one of the newspaper industry's few great success stories in the post-newspaper era. Currently, it prints 710,000 copies of each weekly edition, roughly 6,000 more than The Denver Post, the nation's ninth-largest daily. Its syndicated radio dispatches reach a weekly audience of 1 million, and it recently started producing video clips too. Roughly 3,000 local advertisers keep The Onion afloat, and the paper plans to add 170 employees to its staff of 130 this year.
Online it attracts more than 2 million readers a week. Type onion into Google, and The Onion pops up first. Type the into Google, and The Onion pops up first.
But type "best practices for newspapers" into Google, and The Onion is nowhere to be found. Maybe it should be. At a time when traditional newspapers are frantic to divest themselves of their newsy, papery legacies, The Onion takes a surprisingly conservative approach to innovation. As much as it has used and benefited from the Web, it owes much of its success to low-tech attributes readily available to any paper but nonetheless in short supply: candor, irreverence, and a willingness to offend.
While other newspapers desperately add gardening sections, ask readers to share their favorite bratwurst recipes, or throw their staffers to ravenous packs of bloggers for online question-and-answer sessions, The Onion has focused on reporting the news. The fake news, sure, but still the news. It doesn't ask readers to post their comments at the end of stories, allow them to rate stories on a scale of one to five, or encourage citizen-satire. It makes no effort to convince readers that it really does understand their needs and exists only to serve them. The Onion's journalists concentrate on writing stories and then getting them out there in a variety of formats, and this relatively old-fashioned approach to newspapering has been tremendously successful.
Are there any other newspapers that can boast a 60 percent increase in their print circulation during the last three years? Yet as traditional newspapers fail to draw readers, only industry mavericks like The New York Times' Jayson Blair and USA Today's Jack Kelley have looked to The Onion for inspiration.
One reason The Onion isn't taken more seriously is that it's actually fun to read. In 1985 the cultural critic Neil Postman published the influential Amusing Ourselves to Death, which warned of the fate that would befall us if public discourse were allowed to become substantially more entertaining than, say, a Neil Postman book. Today newspapers are eager to entertain -- in their Travel, Food, and Style sections, that is. But even as scope creep has made the average big-city tree killer less portable than a 10-year-old laptop, hard news invariably comes in a single flavor: Double Objectivity Sludge.
Too many high priests of journalism still see humor as the enemy of seriousness: If the news goes down too easily, it can't be very good for you. But do The Onion and its more fact-based acolytes, The Daily Show and The Colbert Report, monitor current events and the way the news media report on them any less rigorously than, say, the Columbia Journalism Review or USA Today?
During the last few years, multiple surveys by the Pew Research Center and the Annenberg Public Policy Center have found that viewers of The Daily Show and The Colbert Report are among America's most informed citizens. Now, it may be that Jon Stewart isn't making anyone smarter; perhaps America's most informed citizens simply prefer comedy over the stentorian drivel the network anchormannequins dispense. But at the very least, such surveys suggest that news sharpened with satire doesn't cause the intellectual coronaries Postman predicted. Instead, it seems to correlate with engagement.
It's easy to see why readers connect with The Onion, and it's not just the jokes: Despite its "fake news" purview, it's an extremely honest publication. Most dailies, especially those in monopoly or near-monopoly markets, operate as if they're focused more on not offending readers (or advertisers) than on expressing a worldview of any kind.
The Onion takes the opposite approach. It delights in crapping on pieties and regularly publishes stories guaranteed to upset someone: "Christ Kills Two, Injures Seven In Abortion-Clinic Attack." "Heroic PETA Commandos Kill 49, Save Rabbit." "Gay Pride Parade Sets Mainstream Acceptance of Gays Back 50 Years." There's no predictable ideology running through those headlines, just a desire to express some rude, blunt truth about the world.
One common complaint about newspapers is that they're too negative, too focused on bad news, too obsessed with the most unpleasant aspects of life. The Onion shows how wrong this characterization is, how gingerly most newspapers dance around the unrelenting awfulness of life and refuse to acknowledge the limits of our tolerance and compassion. The perfunctory coverage that traditional newspapers give disasters in countries cursed with relatability issues is reduced to its bare, dismal essence: "15,000 Brown People Dead Somewhere." Beggars aren't grist for Pulitzers, just punch lines: "Man Can't Decide Whether to Give Sandwich to Homeless or Ducks." Triumphs of the human spirit are as rare as vegans at an NRA barbecue: "Loved Ones Recall Local Man's Cowardly Battle With Cancer."
Such headlines come with a cost, of course. Outraged readers have convinced advertisers to pull ads. Ginger Rogers and Denzel Washington, among other celebrities, have objected to stories featuring their names, and former Onion editor Robert Siegel once told a lecture audience that the paper was "very nearly sued out of existence" after it ran a story with the headline "Dying Boy Gets Wish: To Pork Janet Jackson."
But if this irreverence is sometimes economically inconvenient, it's also a major reason for the publication's popularity. It's a refreshing antidote to the he-said/she-said balancing acts that leave so many dailies sounding mealy-mouthed. And while The Onion may not adhere to the facts too strictly, it would no doubt place high if the Pew Research Center ever included it in a survey ranking America's most trusted news sources.
During the last few years, big-city dailies have begun to introduce "commuter" papers that function as lite versions of their original fare. These publications share some of The Onion's attributes: They're free, they're tabloids, and most of their stories are bite-sized. But while they may be less filling, they still taste bland. You have to wonder: Why stop at price and paper size? Why not adopt the brutal frankness, the willingness to pierce orthodoxies of all political and cultural stripes, and apply these attributes to a genuinely reported daily newspaper?
Today's publishers give comics strips less and less space. Editorial cartoonists and folksy syndicated humorists have been nearly eradicated. Such changes have helped make newspapers more entertaining -- or at least less dull -- but they're just a start. Until today's front pages can amuse our staunchest defenders of journalistic integrity to severe dyspepsia, if not death, they're not trying hard enough.
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Posted by: higginslads on Nov 7, 2007 1:11 AM
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It's been awhile since I read "Amusing Ourselves to Death," but as I remember it Postman had nothing to say about "news sharpened with satire." His book was predominantly about TV vs reading, and the proliferation of advertising and infotainment.
I remember one of his keenest observations was when he wrote that if he were to suddenly depart from the subject at hand in this book and begin to attempt to sell something to the reader, that obviously no reader in her right mind would take him seriously. Yet that is exactly what TV does all the time. The book was written, of course, before the internet, although more recent versions have an introduction by his son which explores the subject.
He also made an excellent comparison of modern "debates" versus the old days, when Lincoln and Douglas would debate for hours. Not only would no modern candidates be capable of serious debate for that long, but perhaps even more tellingly, no modern audience would be able to sit through it. Yet back in the day, people looked forward to these things and were active participants. These days, our civic participation is predominantly done alone in front of a computer, writing posts on message boards. That's hardly "engagement." I'm afraid Postman was right, and this author is lost.
Incidentally, is anyone else a little sick and tired of hearing about how brilliant Jon Stewart's audience is supposed to be? Enough already!
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Posted by: matti on Nov 7, 2007 1:26 AM
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So here's one:
This article assumes, like many do, that satire is inherently beneficial to society and to "progressives", I would argue that satire PLUS action against what is being mocked is VERY benificial, but, on the contrary, satire WITHOUT action does more harm than good.
To succinctly outline the Substance of my Thought:
Satire w/action buoys the spirits of the Movement while making its Positions more amenable to the People.
Satire w/out action gives People a release that can act like the Pressure Release Valve on some steam-driven contraption, allowing some Infernal Machine to continue Operation to the detriment of the People.
discuss,.... ;)
Winter is coming, try to embrace its Importance,
-matti
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Nov 7, 2007 2:00 AM
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Just a few years ago, the articles were much better, and it wasn't cluttered with ads. It had a nice edgy, counterculture vibe to it.
Now it's a mess. I don't know what all the excitement is about.
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Nov 7, 2007 2:09 AM
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I've only read the Onion occasionally over the years. Up until now it's been hard to get here on Orange Country (60 miles north of merrie ole Manhattan) I've none-the-less always enjoyed it when I was able to obtain a copy of it. It's a damned good paper and should be read by everyone - that is, everyone with somewhat of an intellect.
Cheers!
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Posted by: BlackbirdHighway on Nov 7, 2007 2:55 AM
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I've never seen Coulter in the Onion.
Now you tell me, which paper is a bigger joke? For me, it's the WaPo. Any paper that can feature that trash and still pretend to be serious journalism is a huge joke.
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Posted by: anothername on Nov 7, 2007 6:28 AM
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As for the often-cited awareness of current events possessed by viewers of The Daily Show, which came first? Are people aware because they listen to Jon Stewart or do they listen to Jon Stewart because they are aware?
Joking about something helps to ease the stress. For people who are not stressed, the jokes are not funny because they do not need the relief offered. Yet, if the people laughing did not have the knowledge provided by serious papers, they would not be laughing so hard with The Onion’s headlines. Thus, we need both the serious papers and the less reverent papers.
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Posted by: VannaLaRoche on Nov 7, 2007 6:46 AM
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The funniest stuff is true, and the conceit of the lusting pre-adolescent boy isn't--it's an unfortunate creation of TV scriptwriters. (Children mimic it without any understanding, and that's the tragedy.)
The best Onion headline I recall is January 17, 2001: "Our Long National Nightmare of Peace and Prosperity Is Over."
Still makes me laugh 'til it hurts.
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Posted by: Meh on Nov 7, 2007 7:57 AM
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Posted by: Knowmad on Nov 7, 2007 8:48 AM
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Though I despise Coulter and all opportunistic parasites like her, I can't help but feel that denying them a media soapbox may not be in the best progressive interests. The showcasing of these morally-challenged dolts by the MSM happens in basically three ways, and though there may be various results in the short term, ultimately the effect will be the same - though, it should be noted, only if you have enough time for this to occur.
A fawning, agreeable piece will generally increase disgust on the progressive - dare I say more enlightened - side, and devotion on the other. On the other hand, a slam will usually delight the liberal-leaning and rile the extreme conservative types. A totally objective and unbiased story - if such actually exists - can provide fodder for both sides' views.
However, what is very important, and somewhat unrecognised, is the potential of both fawning and slam pieces to change the beliefs of those who believe the lies. It's far more likely these unaware will be influenced, since once truth is out in the open, it's pretty hard to put it back in the bottle - and who but the really demented or intellectually-challenged could continue to believe the lies once they've seen reality. As for the opposite, we all know it's highly unlikely you'll get someone who is aware of the truth to reject it and accept lies - though certainly not for lack of trying by filth like cheney and his pals.
The progressive cause may lose a few of these battles, though, as they have morality and fairness on their side, definitely not the war. Any liberties taken with the truth - the modus operandi of creatures like coulter - is doomed to eventual exposure and failure. The manipulative pushers simply can't win; indeed, they have to be totally out-of-touch to even imagine they could - yet another reason to hold their sad little fantasy world to the light.
Every lie is an opportunity to bring out the truth, and thereby maybe sway some of the unaware and misguided. Every truth has merit in and of itself, and is fundamentally more attractive and comfortable to the good inherent in everyone, and thus far more difficult to deny.
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Posted by: war_on_tara on Nov 7, 2007 9:33 AM
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Something they did that's stuck in my mind is a fake ad they did a few years ago for "Placebo"... as if it were a new pill rolled out by a pharmaceutical giant and its ad agency. Every detail about the "ad" was dead-on perfect.
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Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com on Nov 7, 2007 10:06 AM
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If anyone has read this hilarious publication, I find it a welcoming answer to the blandness of a paper. The Onion is a lot like MAD magazine, but without the cartoon format.
Also, The Onion tells the truth and is not afraid to attack American sacred cows like the current administration and religious icons.
I work at a newspaper and I compare my paper with the Onion and the latter blows us out of the water, so to speak. I'm doubled over with laughter when I read The Onion.
I'd like for newspapers to lighten up and make us laugh a little. We need more humor in newspapers, and not only relegate it to the comics section.
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Posted by: DennisDalrymple on Nov 7, 2007 10:48 AM
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I understand that Ben Carlin will be showing up with his own show on HBO in the near future, if he's not out on strike with the Writer's Guild. Go Ben, Go!
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Posted by: JayHaden on Nov 7, 2007 11:03 AM
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Posted by: Sojourner on Nov 7, 2007 11:46 AM
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It was all advertising and amusement--except for the combined Opinion and Book sections. That's mostly what I read the paper for back then. The loud contrast between the candy coating and the, not unsubstantial in this case, nut fits with the critique here of daily papers.
If papers have to balance their appeal to shoppers and thinkers, the LA Times may be on a comeback. Don't hold your breath.
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Posted by: PeaceLove on Nov 7, 2007 1:39 PM
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* God Angrily Clarifies "Don't Kill" Rule (which ends with God breaking down and weeping)
* American Life Turns Into Bad Jerry Bruckheimer Movie
* Hijackers Surprised To Find Selves In Hell: "We Expected Eternal Paradise For This," Say Suicide Bombers
* U.S. Vows to Defeat Whoever It Is We're At War With
* Not Knowing What Else To Do, Woman Bakes American Flag Cake
Post 9/11, The Onion's plangent irony ruled the day.
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Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Nov 8, 2007 4:55 PM
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Like the Daily Show, Colbert Report, etc, the Onion shines at skin-deep satire in contrast to any real competition that is nonexistent.
Put another way, the oligopolist corporate MSM is a voice-box for cartel Fascists that would hardly engage at the kind of real satire known to bring down criminal empires and their enablers.
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Posted by: l_m_n on Nov 10, 2007 2:30 PM
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This hurts us in two ways. First, they legitimize the assertions of the MSM by repeating slander.
Second, they have a huge audience of people unsatisfied with the status quo. These are people that feel disillusioned with the system, but don't feel enough distaste to get them off their couches and into the streets. For God's sake, someone tell them the information the MSM doesn't want them to hear! Infuriate them! Get them involved! There is lots of blatant hypocracy out there that could be good for a running gag or two, but because the MSM doesn't talk about it, the Daily Show won't run it.
I suppose it's not their responsibility, after all, to be the voice of a generation. But they are in the position to do it. And they could do it very well.
*sigh*.. here's to pipe dreams.
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Posted by: higginslads on Nov 7, 2007 1:11 AM
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It's been awhile since I read "Amusing Ourselves to Death," but as I remember it Postman had nothing to say about "news sharpened with satire." His book was predominantly about TV vs reading, and the proliferation of advertising and infotainment.
I remember one of his keenest observations was when he wrote that if he were to suddenly depart from the subject at hand in this book and begin to attempt to sell something to the reader, that obviously no reader in her right mind would take him seriously. Yet that is exactly what TV does all the time. The book was written, of course, before the internet, although more recent versions have an introduction by his son which explores the subject.
He also made an excellent comparison of modern "debates" versus the old days, when Lincoln and Douglas would debate for hours. Not only would no modern candidates be capable of serious debate for that long, but perhaps even more tellingly, no modern audience would be able to sit through it. Yet back in the day, people looked forward to these things and were active participants. These days, our civic participation is predominantly done alone in front of a computer, writing posts on message boards. That's hardly "engagement." I'm afraid Postman was right, and this author is lost.
Incidentally, is anyone else a little sick and tired of hearing about how brilliant Jon Stewart's audience is supposed to be? Enough already!
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Posted by: matti on Nov 7, 2007 1:26 AM
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So here's one:
This article assumes, like many do, that satire is inherently beneficial to society and to "progressives", I would argue that satire PLUS action against what is being mocked is VERY benificial, but, on the contrary, satire WITHOUT action does more harm than good.
To succinctly outline the Substance of my Thought:
Satire w/action buoys the spirits of the Movement while making its Positions more amenable to the People.
Satire w/out action gives People a release that can act like the Pressure Release Valve on some steam-driven contraption, allowing some Infernal Machine to continue Operation to the detriment of the People.
discuss,.... ;)
Winter is coming, try to embrace its Importance,
-matti
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Nov 7, 2007 2:00 AM
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Just a few years ago, the articles were much better, and it wasn't cluttered with ads. It had a nice edgy, counterculture vibe to it.
Now it's a mess. I don't know what all the excitement is about.
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Nov 7, 2007 2:09 AM
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I've only read the Onion occasionally over the years. Up until now it's been hard to get here on Orange Country (60 miles north of merrie ole Manhattan) I've none-the-less always enjoyed it when I was able to obtain a copy of it. It's a damned good paper and should be read by everyone - that is, everyone with somewhat of an intellect.
Cheers!
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Posted by: BlackbirdHighway on Nov 7, 2007 2:55 AM
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I've never seen Coulter in the Onion.
Now you tell me, which paper is a bigger joke? For me, it's the WaPo. Any paper that can feature that trash and still pretend to be serious journalism is a huge joke.
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Posted by: anothername on Nov 7, 2007 6:28 AM
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As for the often-cited awareness of current events possessed by viewers of The Daily Show, which came first? Are people aware because they listen to Jon Stewart or do they listen to Jon Stewart because they are aware?
Joking about something helps to ease the stress. For people who are not stressed, the jokes are not funny because they do not need the relief offered. Yet, if the people laughing did not have the knowledge provided by serious papers, they would not be laughing so hard with The Onion’s headlines. Thus, we need both the serious papers and the less reverent papers.
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Posted by: VannaLaRoche on Nov 7, 2007 6:46 AM
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The funniest stuff is true, and the conceit of the lusting pre-adolescent boy isn't--it's an unfortunate creation of TV scriptwriters. (Children mimic it without any understanding, and that's the tragedy.)
The best Onion headline I recall is January 17, 2001: "Our Long National Nightmare of Peace and Prosperity Is Over."
Still makes me laugh 'til it hurts.
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Posted by: Knowmad on Nov 7, 2007 8:48 AM
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Though I despise Coulter and all opportunistic parasites like her, I can't help but feel that denying them a media soapbox may not be in the best progressive interests. The showcasing of these morally-challenged dolts by the MSM happens in basically three ways, and though there may be various results in the short term, ultimately the effect will be the same - though, it should be noted, only if you have enough time for this to occur.
A fawning, agreeable piece will generally increase disgust on the progressive - dare I say more enlightened - side, and devotion on the other. On the other hand, a slam will usually delight the liberal-leaning and rile the extreme conservative types. A totally objective and unbiased story - if such actually exists - can provide fodder for both sides' views.
However, what is very important, and somewhat unrecognised, is the potential of both fawning and slam pieces to change the beliefs of those who believe the lies. It's far more likely these unaware will be influenced, since once truth is out in the open, it's pretty hard to put it back in the bottle - and who but the really demented or intellectually-challenged could continue to believe the lies once they've seen reality. As for the opposite, we all know it's highly unlikely you'll get someone who is aware of the truth to reject it and accept lies - though certainly not for lack of trying by filth like cheney and his pals.
The progressive cause may lose a few of these battles, though, as they have morality and fairness on their side, definitely not the war. Any liberties taken with the truth - the modus operandi of creatures like coulter - is doomed to eventual exposure and failure. The manipulative pushers simply can't win; indeed, they have to be totally out-of-touch to even imagine they could - yet another reason to hold their sad little fantasy world to the light.
Every lie is an opportunity to bring out the truth, and thereby maybe sway some of the unaware and misguided. Every truth has merit in and of itself, and is fundamentally more attractive and comfortable to the good inherent in everyone, and thus far more difficult to deny.
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Posted by: war_on_tara on Nov 7, 2007 9:33 AM
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Something they did that's stuck in my mind is a fake ad they did a few years ago for "Placebo"... as if it were a new pill rolled out by a pharmaceutical giant and its ad agency. Every detail about the "ad" was dead-on perfect.
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Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com on Nov 7, 2007 10:06 AM
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If anyone has read this hilarious publication, I find it a welcoming answer to the blandness of a paper. The Onion is a lot like MAD magazine, but without the cartoon format.
Also, The Onion tells the truth and is not afraid to attack American sacred cows like the current administration and religious icons.
I work at a newspaper and I compare my paper with the Onion and the latter blows us out of the water, so to speak. I'm doubled over with laughter when I read The Onion.
I'd like for newspapers to lighten up and make us laugh a little. We need more humor in newspapers, and not only relegate it to the comics section.
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Posted by: DennisDalrymple on Nov 7, 2007 10:48 AM
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I understand that Ben Carlin will be showing up with his own show on HBO in the near future, if he's not out on strike with the Writer's Guild. Go Ben, Go!
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Posted by: Sojourner on Nov 7, 2007 11:46 AM
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It was all advertising and amusement--except for the combined Opinion and Book sections. That's mostly what I read the paper for back then. The loud contrast between the candy coating and the, not unsubstantial in this case, nut fits with the critique here of daily papers.
If papers have to balance their appeal to shoppers and thinkers, the LA Times may be on a comeback. Don't hold your breath.
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Posted by: PeaceLove on Nov 7, 2007 1:39 PM
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* God Angrily Clarifies "Don't Kill" Rule (which ends with God breaking down and weeping)
* American Life Turns Into Bad Jerry Bruckheimer Movie
* Hijackers Surprised To Find Selves In Hell: "We Expected Eternal Paradise For This," Say Suicide Bombers
* U.S. Vows to Defeat Whoever It Is We're At War With
* Not Knowing What Else To Do, Woman Bakes American Flag Cake
Post 9/11, The Onion's plangent irony ruled the day.
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Posted by: Mister_PsyOps on Nov 8, 2007 4:55 PM
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Like the Daily Show, Colbert Report, etc, the Onion shines at skin-deep satire in contrast to any real competition that is nonexistent.
Put another way, the oligopolist corporate MSM is a voice-box for cartel Fascists that would hardly engage at the kind of real satire known to bring down criminal empires and their enablers.
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Posted by: l_m_n on Nov 10, 2007 2:30 PM
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This hurts us in two ways. First, they legitimize the assertions of the MSM by repeating slander.
Second, they have a huge audience of people unsatisfied with the status quo. These are people that feel disillusioned with the system, but don't feel enough distaste to get them off their couches and into the streets. For God's sake, someone tell them the information the MSM doesn't want them to hear! Infuriate them! Get them involved! There is lots of blatant hypocracy out there that could be good for a running gag or two, but because the MSM doesn't talk about it, the Daily Show won't run it.
I suppose it's not their responsibility, after all, to be the voice of a generation. But they are in the position to do it. And they could do it very well.
*sigh*.. here's to pipe dreams.
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