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The Colorado Rockies: God's Baseball Team
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Last year the Rockies went public with the news that the organization was looking for players with "character." And according to team management, "character" means players who have chosen Jesus as their personal Lord and manager. "We're nervous, to be honest with you," Rockies general manager Dan O'Dowd said at the time. "It's the first time we ever talked about these issues publicly. The last thing we want to do is offend anyone because of our beliefs."
Rockies chairman and CEO Charlie Monfort took it further, saying, "I think character-wise we're stronger than anyone in baseball. Christians, and what they've endured, are some of the strongest people in baseball. I believe God sends signs, and we're seeing those." The team took some heat for its statements, especially when former players spoke of having their lockers searched for dirty magazines and feeling pressure that you had to be down with the God Squad to feel part of the team. It also raised the question of whether the team was discriminating against non-Christian players -- would Jewish icon Shawn Green be welcome? What about just straight-up heathens?
But as the team makes its miracle run to the series against the Boston Red Sox this year, the Rockies are playing down their holier-than-thou image.
"Do we like players with character? There is absolutely no doubt about that," O'Dowd said in the New York Times today. "If people want to interpret character as a religious-based issue because it appears many times in the Bible, that's their decision. I believe that character is an innate part of developing an organization, and to me, it is nothing more than doing the right thing at the right time when nobody's looking. Nothing more complicated than that. You don't have to be a Christian to make that decision." "There are guys who are religious, sure, but they don't impress it upon anybody," Jewish pitcher Jason Hirsh also stepped forward to say. "It's not like they hung a cross in my locker or anything. They've accepted me for who I am and what I believe in." (That could be a great pitch for recruiting free agents: "They won't hang a cross in your locker!")
Have the Rockies really turned over a tolerant new leaf -- as the Times report suggested -- or is this merely the sin of spin? Relief pitcher Jeremy Affeldt said, "When you have as many people who believe in God as we do, it creates a humbleness about what we do. I don't see arrogance here, I see confidence. We're all very humbled about where this franchise has been and where it is now, and we know that what's happening now is a very special thing."
Humility and confidence are fine -- indeed, novel -- traits in an athlete. But the troubling part of that statement is the assumption that Christianity by definition brings character to the table. Maybe it's because I live in Washington, DC, a town full of politicians who blithely invade other countries with other people's children and deny healthcare to millions of kids and say they are guided by God. Maybe it's because I find a team using a publicly funded stadium as a platform for an event originally dubbed "Christian Family Day" exclusionary and a gross misuse of tax dollars. (Later, the events were renamed "Faith Day" to sound more inclusive.)
But for those of us who believe that freedom of religion also should mean freedom from religion at the ballpark, it doesn't matter if you call it Buddha-Jesus-Jewish-Vishnu-Islamic-Wicca Awareness Day. We just want to go to the ballpark without feeling like we're covertly funding Focus on the Family's gay-retraining programs. Religion and sports: it's a marriage in desperate need of a divorce.
That's why it was hard not to feel a tiny taste of supernatural satisfaction upon learning Tuesday that the team website crashed following what Rockies officials called "an external, malicious attack." The team's efforts to sell all its World Series tickets online was unprecedented and seen by many diehard Rockies fans as a way to sell tickets to out-of-town corporate entities and shut out the locals waiting in line for days to buy them in person. Unless your lord is Michael Milken, gouging home-town supporters doesn't seem very Christian at all.
So who could be the perpetrator of this "external and malicious" attack on the Rockies website? Was it God, punishing the team for squeezing the common fan? The Devil, trying to derail their grace-driven run? Some Red Sox Nation hacker getting his jollies? Whatever, it was hard not to smile at the biblical significance for one of baseball's most sanctimonious teams. They could throw the money-changers out of our sporting temples, but that would leave the owner's boxes empty. And we can't have that.
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Posted by: YogiBear on Oct 25, 2007 1:08 AM
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Posted by: hquain on Oct 25, 2007 2:05 AM
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God is no more effective than King Canute at adjusting the schedule of tides, can't change one digit in Planck's constant, and stands invisibly by during mass slaughters of epic scale --- yet the Big Man can win a ballgame for you. I'm sure it all makes sense to Believers, but what sense does it make?
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Posted by: Trixie on Oct 25, 2007 5:10 AM
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Posted by: jeffr on Oct 25, 2007 5:47 AM
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Honestly, I applaud them for at least being open about what they wanted to do. It takes a lot of guts to put your religious agenda right out there for anyone to see, regardless of what flavor it is.
Unfortunately, I see the possibility of some religious discrimination lawsuits by anyone turned down for a job there the last few years, who didn't happen to be Christian.
Personally, I'm perfectly content to let them recruit any kind of team they want. It's a free country, and the owners and managers of that team should be allowed to recruit however they want to.
What I'd like to see in response though, is maybe the Mets recruit an "All Pagan" team, or maybe the Giants could round up an "All-Sierra Club" team. Hell, maybe Texas could field a team full of nothing but Tele-tubbies, Murphy Browns and Harry Potter characters.... hmmm, on second thought, the Rangers would probably be more of an "All Oil Baron" team...
The unfortunate thing however is, the Christians would not allow THAT to happen. It's just the whole double-standard thing that really gets under my skin. And of course, as already mentioned, I'm sure none of those "men of character" are donating 10% off the top (of their gross please) to the church, their communities, or in fact, to ANYONE other than their agents, publicists, and drug dealers.
So that's my only issue with an all Christian team... the fact that they want to say one thing, and then act in a completely different way. They want to openly recruit a Christian team, and then I'm certain would actively oppose someone else from recruiting a team with idieologies in conflict with their own.
Kinda like my friend from work who calls me his Atheist buddy (I'm not Atheist, I'm more into Druid Reconstructionism and a little Rosicrucianism), and then swivels his head like a bobble-head doll scoping every good looking woman that passes and making comments about which particular parts of his anatomy these women invariably "want"... after I began introducing him as "My friend X, The Convenient Christian" he started trying to do a little more than lip service to his religion.
Most of these people, however, will never do more than lip-service to anything other than caring for themselves.
And I kinda resent the implication that if you aren't a Christian, you don't have as much "character" as a Christian has... you know, "character".... like Jerry Fallwell, Pat Robertson, Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, Richard Roberts, local celebrity Jim Bakker (PTL = Pass The Loot, right?).... oh wait... maybe they meant that they HAD character, not that they WERE characters.... my bad....
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Posted by: davy on Oct 25, 2007 7:51 AM
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Are we still talking about "THE" United States? BOY, HAVE I BEEN AWAY A LONG TIME.
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Posted by: DaBear on Oct 25, 2007 9:25 AM
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Um, here's a thought, if it's the last thing you wanna do, DON"T FRACKING DO IT. Man, these Xtian whackos are morons.
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Posted by: DaBear on Oct 25, 2007 9:39 AM
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I think it's something about sports that make people stand around and watch the grass grow while drinking inordinate amounts of malted beverage... it's brings on the stoopid and right after that, there's the god-thing that fucks the idiots' brains over and they start seein' angels or some other crazy assed nonsense.
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Posted by: MAD on Oct 25, 2007 9:41 AM
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A story detailing the Monfort's exploitative meat packing plant in Greeley would have been a great story but as most Alterneters already know, religion always drums up more business and gives readers that extra little lift in their step called a feeling of superiority.
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Posted by: war_on_tara on Oct 25, 2007 9:42 AM
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Forget those lame bets between politicians over big sporting events -- you know, those wagers of whatever food item for which a city is famous.
Republican presidential hopeful Tom Tancredo wants to put something important on the line -- his candidacy. His campaign called ABC News to issue this challenge: The Colorado congressman will drop out of the race if the Rockies lose the World Series -- if rival Mitt Romney agrees to pack it in if the Red Sox lose.
Romney has a lot at stake -- he's leading in the Iowa and New Hampshire polls, is competitive nationally, and has invested more than $17 million of his own money in his campaign. So the former Massachusetts governor is not taking the bait, even though the bet looks pretty safe -- the Sox shellacked the Rockies 13-1 in game one Wednesday night.
Asked to respond to the proposed bet, spokesman Kevin Madden issued a terse statement this morning: "The governor is in the race to win the race."
Tancredo, of course, has much less to lose. He has failed to make much headway in either the polling or in fund-raising. And, who knows, the Rockies could recapture the magic that put them in the Series to begin with, winning 21 of 22 before Wednesday night.
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Posted by: common intelligence on Oct 25, 2007 11:14 AM
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Then as the generations changed the Christians started understanding what it was truely about. Next thing I see is
"Climbers for Christ". Holy Heysus! I thought. How interesting.
I appears to me young people that are lead to accept Jesus are some how lead astray from the real Christian ethic. Then somehow they misinterpet and deny real truth for a "pie in the sky" concept. Here again who ever fired up this bigoted attitude, in a baseball group, needs to find their Christ in them self. For Christ would not condone such a ignorant attitude. These guy/guys have obviously missed the point.
I pray Gods' Red Sox quell their arrogant little arses.
(Sidebar: What in hell are they doing with a Venezuelan pitcher, 21. He's not from the Rockies or Colorado or the US.
The damn Leagues are just corporations any more. Regional favoritism is embraced by a bunch of blind consummers in denial, living a vicarious illusion anyway.)
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Posted by: dkm on Oct 25, 2007 11:24 AM
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Posted by: tooldoc60 on Oct 25, 2007 1:16 PM
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looks like the rockies need to pray a little harder..GO BOSOX!!
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Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com on Oct 26, 2007 10:55 AM
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However, if Colorado loses the World Series, they'll have no one to blame except God. (Matt Holliday: "God was a bad manager; he told Matt Herges to intentionally walk Manny Ramirez to get Coco Crisp-and what does Crisp do? He hits a grand slam and we lost the god$%#@ed Series! (oops, did I just say what I thought I did?")
And then Rockies management fires God. God says, "good riddance; I'll go back to judging souls or perhaps take the Yankees job."
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Posted by: neoanachronism on Oct 26, 2007 11:51 AM
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Perhaps, some creative fans will wear Satan outfits to one of the games.
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Posted by: rgoalierob on Oct 26, 2007 1:21 PM
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Hell, Gaylord Perry at least had the guts to admit he cheated.
The players now are worthless and i haven't watched a minute of this crap.
I'll take "The Beautiful Game" any day over the "Boreball".
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Posted by: talkville on Oct 28, 2007 2:28 AM
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In many, if not all areas, our social relations -- based constitutionally on concepts of civil society and individual rights and liberties-- are slowly being transformed into ones based on a moral axis of good vs evil. Legislation passed and liberties relinquished are very difficult, if not impossible, to regain or restore. Private beliefs, religious views and other 'faith-based' prescriptions are being injected into the public domain and legislated (or established by direct or assumed policy) corporations and organizations. These are issues that call for rugged debate and thought by ALL sectors of our society before they gain a foot-hold in ruling every aspect of all our lives. In our society it is our ACTIONS and not any particular morality or ethics we may hold that guide the relations among and between individuals and others. Implementing theological authority into economic and political spheres is highly dangerous and not a trend to take too lightly.
Christian individuals bear no more and no less rights and responsibilities than any of the rest of us. Nor do Christian corporations either. Each one of us as individuals determine our own ethics or morality as an in-alienable right in this country. It is not the Bible, but the Constitution which guides our civil and social relations; rights and responsibilities are not exclusive to an individual or a group of individuals-- they apply to all of us.
Play ball!
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Posted by: dezertlady71 dezertlady71 on Oct 28, 2007 11:13 AM
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If a person cannot live their faith every day and every minute of their lives, then what good is that faith?
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Posted by: MartianBachelor on Oct 29, 2007 7:58 PM
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But isn't God Bless America now a standard part of the 7th inning stretch at every ballpark in the country? How did that happen?
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God is no more effective than King Canute at adjusting the schedule of tides, can't change one digit in Planck's constant, and stands invisibly by during mass slaughters of epic scale --- yet the Big Man can win a ballgame for you. I'm sure it all makes sense to Believers, but what sense does it make?
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Honestly, I applaud them for at least being open about what they wanted to do. It takes a lot of guts to put your religious agenda right out there for anyone to see, regardless of what flavor it is.
Unfortunately, I see the possibility of some religious discrimination lawsuits by anyone turned down for a job there the last few years, who didn't happen to be Christian.
Personally, I'm perfectly content to let them recruit any kind of team they want. It's a free country, and the owners and managers of that team should be allowed to recruit however they want to.
What I'd like to see in response though, is maybe the Mets recruit an "All Pagan" team, or maybe the Giants could round up an "All-Sierra Club" team. Hell, maybe Texas could field a team full of nothing but Tele-tubbies, Murphy Browns and Harry Potter characters.... hmmm, on second thought, the Rangers would probably be more of an "All Oil Baron" team...
The unfortunate thing however is, the Christians would not allow THAT to happen. It's just the whole double-standard thing that really gets under my skin. And of course, as already mentioned, I'm sure none of those "men of character" are donating 10% off the top (of their gross please) to the church, their communities, or in fact, to ANYONE other than their agents, publicists, and drug dealers.
So that's my only issue with an all Christian team... the fact that they want to say one thing, and then act in a completely different way. They want to openly recruit a Christian team, and then I'm certain would actively oppose someone else from recruiting a team with idieologies in conflict with their own.
Kinda like my friend from work who calls me his Atheist buddy (I'm not Atheist, I'm more into Druid Reconstructionism and a little Rosicrucianism), and then swivels his head like a bobble-head doll scoping every good looking woman that passes and making comments about which particular parts of his anatomy these women invariably "want"... after I began introducing him as "My friend X, The Convenient Christian" he started trying to do a little more than lip service to his religion.
Most of these people, however, will never do more than lip-service to anything other than caring for themselves.
And I kinda resent the implication that if you aren't a Christian, you don't have as much "character" as a Christian has... you know, "character".... like Jerry Fallwell, Pat Robertson, Ted Haggard, Mark Foley, Richard Roberts, local celebrity Jim Bakker (PTL = Pass The Loot, right?).... oh wait... maybe they meant that they HAD character, not that they WERE characters.... my bad....
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Are we still talking about "THE" United States? BOY, HAVE I BEEN AWAY A LONG TIME.
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Posted by: DaBear on Oct 25, 2007 9:25 AM
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Um, here's a thought, if it's the last thing you wanna do, DON"T FRACKING DO IT. Man, these Xtian whackos are morons.
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Posted by: DaBear on Oct 25, 2007 9:39 AM
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I think it's something about sports that make people stand around and watch the grass grow while drinking inordinate amounts of malted beverage... it's brings on the stoopid and right after that, there's the god-thing that fucks the idiots' brains over and they start seein' angels or some other crazy assed nonsense.
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Posted by: MAD on Oct 25, 2007 9:41 AM
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A story detailing the Monfort's exploitative meat packing plant in Greeley would have been a great story but as most Alterneters already know, religion always drums up more business and gives readers that extra little lift in their step called a feeling of superiority.
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» Monfort - I knew that name sounded familiar!
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» MAD, you are missing the point
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Posted by: war_on_tara on Oct 25, 2007 9:42 AM
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Forget those lame bets between politicians over big sporting events -- you know, those wagers of whatever food item for which a city is famous.
Republican presidential hopeful Tom Tancredo wants to put something important on the line -- his candidacy. His campaign called ABC News to issue this challenge: The Colorado congressman will drop out of the race if the Rockies lose the World Series -- if rival Mitt Romney agrees to pack it in if the Red Sox lose.
Romney has a lot at stake -- he's leading in the Iowa and New Hampshire polls, is competitive nationally, and has invested more than $17 million of his own money in his campaign. So the former Massachusetts governor is not taking the bait, even though the bet looks pretty safe -- the Sox shellacked the Rockies 13-1 in game one Wednesday night.
Asked to respond to the proposed bet, spokesman Kevin Madden issued a terse statement this morning: "The governor is in the race to win the race."
Tancredo, of course, has much less to lose. He has failed to make much headway in either the polling or in fund-raising. And, who knows, the Rockies could recapture the magic that put them in the Series to begin with, winning 21 of 22 before Wednesday night.
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» If only the World Series could end in a draw!
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Posted by: common intelligence on Oct 25, 2007 11:14 AM
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Then as the generations changed the Christians started understanding what it was truely about. Next thing I see is
"Climbers for Christ". Holy Heysus! I thought. How interesting.
I appears to me young people that are lead to accept Jesus are some how lead astray from the real Christian ethic. Then somehow they misinterpet and deny real truth for a "pie in the sky" concept. Here again who ever fired up this bigoted attitude, in a baseball group, needs to find their Christ in them self. For Christ would not condone such a ignorant attitude. These guy/guys have obviously missed the point.
I pray Gods' Red Sox quell their arrogant little arses.
(Sidebar: What in hell are they doing with a Venezuelan pitcher, 21. He's not from the Rockies or Colorado or the US.
The damn Leagues are just corporations any more. Regional favoritism is embraced by a bunch of blind consummers in denial, living a vicarious illusion anyway.)
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» RE: Young team, Young and brainwashed already?
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Posted by: dkm on Oct 25, 2007 11:24 AM
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» Maybe he's just testing them.
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Posted by: madaha on Oct 25, 2007 1:07 PM
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Posted by: tooldoc60 on Oct 25, 2007 1:16 PM
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looks like the rockies need to pray a little harder..GO BOSOX!!
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Posted by: Gravity Dancer on Oct 25, 2007 5:17 PM
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» RE: You've created a Red Sox fan!
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Posted by: donl51 on Oct 25, 2007 5:42 PM
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Posted by: bondoyle on Oct 25, 2007 7:39 PM
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Posted by: drblack on Oct 26, 2007 1:00 AM
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Posted by: Agki on Oct 26, 2007 4:20 AM
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Posted by: penobscotdziekuje@yahoo.com on Oct 26, 2007 10:55 AM
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However, if Colorado loses the World Series, they'll have no one to blame except God. (Matt Holliday: "God was a bad manager; he told Matt Herges to intentionally walk Manny Ramirez to get Coco Crisp-and what does Crisp do? He hits a grand slam and we lost the god$%#@ed Series! (oops, did I just say what I thought I did?")
And then Rockies management fires God. God says, "good riddance; I'll go back to judging souls or perhaps take the Yankees job."
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Posted by: neoanachronism on Oct 26, 2007 11:51 AM
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Perhaps, some creative fans will wear Satan outfits to one of the games.
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Posted by: rgoalierob on Oct 26, 2007 1:21 PM
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Hell, Gaylord Perry at least had the guts to admit he cheated.
The players now are worthless and i haven't watched a minute of this crap.
I'll take "The Beautiful Game" any day over the "Boreball".
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Posted by: talkville on Oct 28, 2007 2:28 AM
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In many, if not all areas, our social relations -- based constitutionally on concepts of civil society and individual rights and liberties-- are slowly being transformed into ones based on a moral axis of good vs evil. Legislation passed and liberties relinquished are very difficult, if not impossible, to regain or restore. Private beliefs, religious views and other 'faith-based' prescriptions are being injected into the public domain and legislated (or established by direct or assumed policy) corporations and organizations. These are issues that call for rugged debate and thought by ALL sectors of our society before they gain a foot-hold in ruling every aspect of all our lives. In our society it is our ACTIONS and not any particular morality or ethics we may hold that guide the relations among and between individuals and others. Implementing theological authority into economic and political spheres is highly dangerous and not a trend to take too lightly.
Christian individuals bear no more and no less rights and responsibilities than any of the rest of us. Nor do Christian corporations either. Each one of us as individuals determine our own ethics or morality as an in-alienable right in this country. It is not the Bible, but the Constitution which guides our civil and social relations; rights and responsibilities are not exclusive to an individual or a group of individuals-- they apply to all of us.
Play ball!
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Posted by: Biko on Oct 28, 2007 10:42 AM
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Posted by: dezertlady71 dezertlady71 on Oct 28, 2007 11:13 AM
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If a person cannot live their faith every day and every minute of their lives, then what good is that faith?
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Posted by: maestra on Oct 29, 2007 4:54 AM
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Posted by: TomG on Oct 29, 2007 11:44 AM
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Posted by: MartianBachelor on Oct 29, 2007 7:58 PM
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But isn't God Bless America now a standard part of the 7th inning stretch at every ballpark in the country? How did that happen?
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