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Breast Cancer Sells
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Of nine publications that I recently found on a grocery store magazine rack, all of which advertised breast cancer articles on the covers of their October issues, only two also contained coverage of Domestic Violence Awareness Month (and mentioned that on their covers).* And, what's worse, of the coverage dedicated to breast cancer, much of it was offensive, superficial, misleading, or flat-out wrong.
This year there is even called Beyond Breast Cancer that cheerfully proclaims that there are "10 Good Things About Breast Cancer." Who knew? And just what are the pluses of getting this dreaded disease? According to the bubblegum-colored magazine, one perk is a pair of new boobs that "will face the horizon, not the South Pole.' Better yet, they will be paid for by insurance. Oh, and you get lots of cards and flowers.
Meanwhile, both Good Housekeeping and Woman's Day give incorrect information about mammograms. Good Housekeeping claims that "[N]o one disputes that all women 50 and over should be screened annually." Yet physicians in different countries disagree on how often women over 50 should be screened. While doctors in the United States recommend annual mammograms, those in Europe say every two to three years. In Australia, where a study out last year shed significant doubt on the extent to which mammograms save lives, the recommendation is every two years. Interestingly, in some of these countries, the incidence and death rates for breast cancer are actually lower or comparable to the United States.
When they're not spewing misinformation, the October issues of the traditional women's magazines are offering overly simplistic information about breast cancer risk factors and tips for preventing it. Woman's World (not to be confused with
The silence on these subjects mirrors the focus that both the American Cancer Society and Susan G. Komen for the Cure place on the profitable business of curing cancer rather than preventing it, which likely would hurt the bottom line of many of their biggest donors. Consumers are told that shopping will help find a cure -- a message that is not lost on advertisers.
Vogue sings the praises of one prolific advertiser, Ralph Lauren, who this year is selling polo shirts with bullseyes above the breast to target breast cancer. The ad shows a group of young, mostly white women wearing skimpy thongs, the polo shirts and nothing else. Subtle, huh?
A Pine Sol ad in Essence features motorcycle riders Aj Jemison and Jan Emanuel "driving for the cure," which is awfully hard when your vehicle is spewing cancer-causing exhaust. On top of that, Pine Sol contains 2-butoxyethanol (EGBE), which has been linked to fertility disorders, birth defects and other medical problems.
Redbook carries a sparkling wine "Cheers for the Cure" ad. Curiously, their article, "Who Beats Cancer and Who Doesn't," was one of the few risk factor pieces that failed to mention the link between alcohol and breast cancer, something that is highlighted in several of the other magazines.
And what if you or someone you love gets breast cancer? Not to worry, the women's magazines are full of inspiring survivor stories. Unfortunately, while most breast cancer victims are over the age of 50, not one of the nine magazines I analyzed focused on those women and the impact the disease has on their lives. Far more typical is a piece in Vogue discussing a very attractive young woman's agonizing choice to have a preventive double mastectomy because she carries the genes that can cause breast cancer. And with the exception of Essence, whose target audience is black, most of the women in these survivor stories are white, even though black women are more likely to die from the disease.
Despite most of these magazines having sections on health, family and love, only two of them (Redbook and Essence) had any mention of Domestic Violence Awareness Month.
While it is questionable that additional awareness of breast cancer is useful, in the case of domestic violence, more coverage would be helpful. Domestic violence is the most common type of violence experienced by women both globally and in the United States. The Family Violence Prevention Fund reports that one out of every three women worldwide is "beaten, coerced into sex or otherwise abused during her lifetime." Here in the United States, the rate is one in four. In 2005 (the latest year for which statistics are available), 976 women in the United States were killed by by men that they knew. Yet because we tend to see this violence as a private, shameful issue, only 20 percent of rapes and 25 percent of physical assaults against women in this country are reported to the police.
Also underreported is the great financial toll domestic violence takes on communities. FVPF estimates that the health-related costs of "rape, physical assault, stalking and homicide committed by intimate partners exceed $5.8 billion each year." About 70 percent of that goes toward direct medical costs; the other 30 accounts for indirect costs such as lost wages.
Though lacking in many other details, this month's article in Redbook did attempt to demonstrate how common domestic violence really is, with featured pictures of two women as well as two men who knew a woman who had been affected by domestic violence.
And the article in the October issue of Essence, which delves into why black America is "so silent" about the violence that is committed against black women (a number that nearly doubled between 2003 and 2004, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics), also pinpoints why more coverage in these magazines would be more useful. ""Awareness, or lack thereof, is also a factor, says Rose Pulliam, president of the National Domestic Violence Hotline and the National Teen Dating Abuse Helpline. "We have to find a way to talk about domestic abuse that doesn't demonize our men but creates a way of looking at this as something to discuss openly," she says.
What to take away from all this? The bottom line, literally, is that we shrink away from black eyes. Breasts, on the other hand, are highly marketable commodities, as these magazines' advertising and helpful hints about pink products attest. Glamour even uses breast cancer awareness as an opportunity for a little full frontal nudity, featuring young, pretty and oh-so-white survivors with their best come hither looks. This emphasis on youth and whiteness is a true disservice to older women who are far more likely to get this disease and black women who are more likely to die from it.
Such irresponsible coverage of breast cancer and blindness to domestic violence suggest that many publications are less concerned with women's health than with making a buck. By tugging at consumers' purse strings instead of promoting their well-being, these magazines fail to serve the women who read them.
*The magazines surveyed for this article were: Essence, Redbook, Good Housekeeping, Women’s Day, Women’s World, Ladies Home Journal, Glamour, Vogue and Beyond Breast Cancer.
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Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Oct 24, 2007 3:27 AM
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The issue of selling under the banner of 'breast cancer' is a relevant issue. Focus on that issue and that of abuse have always waxed and waned, since both issues have actually become issues that ARE openly discussed. Sure, abuse should and will be highlighted (in this country it will be after some affluent white woman tells her story on Oprah). But to pick up and place these two issues in the ring to go at each other is more of a philosophical exercise for the author to sort out rather than be paraded as war spending vs. the S-CHIP program.
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Posted by: anothername on Oct 24, 2007 4:46 AM
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Furthermore, placing the focus on how the media reports on the topics is important. I have observed in the past year how much the general public uses information provided by the media as their references and their examples. In other words, people will not talk about a story if the media does not inform them about it, then they will talk about the story in the language used by the media.
Then there is the personal believability of the two issues. Tell somebody you have breast cancer, or any cancer, and you are given sympathy and support. However, tell somebody you are being domestically abused, particularly if it is debilitating verbal abuse, and people will try to deny it because they know the man and he has never shown any violence towards them. (The features about domestic violence that I have seen tend to focus on homicides or on hotlines. Educating the public on the signs of domestic violence, whether the suspected victim is friend or stranger, is missing. I also have heard from sexual assault centers that sexual assault discussions are even more taboo than are talks about domestic violence. In contrast, breast self exams are widely promoted.)
Ultimately, it comes back to the roles of women in a society and/or a culture. Women with breasts are objects of adulation and objects to be possessed. Women within a relationship are expected to protect the public image of that domestic group, to show the man as a strong breadwinner, and to keep the children from being pitied or ridiculed. If we talk about cancer, we talk about a person. If we talk about domestic abuse, we start talking about society and that scares people.
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Posted by: I, Deas on Oct 24, 2007 4:59 AM
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Also many of us may have see bumper stickers or t-shirts with messages like "Save the Ta-Tas!," and we raise awareness of breast cancer so that we can continue to objectify womens bodies.
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Posted by: VannaLaRoche on Oct 24, 2007 6:11 AM
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What happens to your mom or sister is a big deal for most if not all women. And when it's a disease that can also affect you, you are tied in with the fear rope too.
I don't doubt at all that these pressure points are well considered and hammered on in the Pretty In Pink campaign.
Personally, I despise the infantilization of women through the constant pinkifying, the banal angel and teddy-bear pins, the grating cutesiness of it all. Sick-make me.
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Posted by: Q30 on Oct 24, 2007 6:24 AM
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In fact, I'm exactly as shocked as I was the last three thousand times!
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Posted by: satyagirl on Oct 24, 2007 7:36 AM
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The dairy industry is so powerful that they make sure no one ever makes this connection. In fact they are the largest employer of dieticians in our country to ensure that their misinformation is ingrained in our culture. I studied dietetics in college and later learned that the dairy industry had funded many of the studies that my education was based on.
For anyone who is curious about the role diet plays in your health, check out The China Study by T. Colin Campbell -- (thechinastudy.com). This book is amazing and details the most comprehensive study of nutrition ever conducted which totally destroys the myths we are told about eating a lot of protein and that you need dairy products to build strong bones. Animal protein and especially dairy are the triggers for many cancers. Jane Plant's books are also excellent for info on the connection between diet and cancer -- check out janeplant.com for a list of her books.
There are many scientists and dieticians that believe the connection between dairy products and cancer is as strong as the link between cigarette smoking and lung cancer. There are definite parallels between the dairy industry and the tobacco industry. I think a couple decades from now, the dairy industry is going to be facing major lawsuits and the truth will finally start being known by the masses. But in the meantime, people are suffering while the dairy industry profits.
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Posted by: drricklippin on Oct 24, 2007 7:47 AM
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We will never cure all cancer- but the cancer cure "industry" will lie to you and say we can.
Also we cannot afford not to emphasize prevention.
When we can't cure, dignified care is very important.
Dr. Rick Lippin
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Posted by: dearOread on Oct 24, 2007 9:53 AM
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Where's my Support the Homeless Campbell's soup? I want a Support the Troops bottle of nailpolish! I want a Support Research for Anal Cancer lipstick! And since I am a woman, I want a Support "Victims" (sorry, hate that word) of Domestic Violence dish soap! Preferably Dawn or Joy, I don't go for el cheapo shizz.
Come on now, we all know they market this coz we get to say "breasts"...tee hee.
If you really give a flying...ahem...why don't you send your cash DIRECTLY to the researchers for funding? I am sure they're not gonna look down on cash donations.
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Posted by: zooeyhall on Oct 24, 2007 1:07 PM
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For example: businesses and politicians make a big deal about holding free breast cancer screening clinics. However, what happens once the woman is diagnosed with breast cancer? What about the lack of national health care to provide follow-up and treatment? Especially for these women who don't have health insurance and also don't happen to carry around $50,000 in their purses to pay for treatment?
It's like then: "sorry babe, your on your own"
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Posted by: dikjosef on Oct 24, 2007 1:23 PM
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Posted by: Airwin on Oct 24, 2007 4:23 PM
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As far as I'm concerned they can put photos of breasts on every single magazine cover, if it helps end this disease.
Women who are in domestic violence situations have a choice, albeit a difficult choice. But they can get out of the situation. You don't have that choice with breast cancer, it just might take your life no matter what you do. Honestly, I would rather have someone beat me than to go through one more round of chemo.
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Posted by: Ingarose on Oct 24, 2007 4:55 PM
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As far as domestic violence is concerned, we are a violent society. If the 'decider king' pushes violence against this that and another nation, it only follows that other would be kings think that they can solve things with violence.
We need a month dedicated to stop violence everywhere, which includes Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine and Israel, Syria and violence in all of our homes. If violence is accepted to solve problems overseas, then violence will be accepted at home.
I wonder how many people displaced by the California fires, or the Katrina victams worry about breast cancer or domestic violence?
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Posted by: Urgelt on Oct 24, 2007 6:10 PM
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Some months back I visited the American Cancer Society web pages and looked for information about carcinogens. There was almost nothing there. They have little to no interest in chemicals in products which cause cancer, and certainly are not interested in testifying before Congress regarding the need to control carcinogens in consumer products or in industrial water and air discharges.
Why is that, exactly?
The ACS derives a great deal of its income from the industries which manufacture those products. It's led by executives with close ties to those industries. When they testify before Congress, it's about trends in cancer rates, cancer sob stories intended to wring more donations, and treatment developments.
But not just any treatment developments. Oh, no. The ACS is pretty much only interested in patentable drugs.
There are dozens of stories floating around the internet, anecdotal stories which claim that this or that treatment helps with cancer. None of them has been the subject of peer-reviewed double-blind studies. Everyone in the cancer industry guides money away from those, and towards patented drugs. I don't know if any of those "cures" are any good. But it sure would be nice if they had some genuine scientific attention.
The University of Alberta is currently struggling to fund clinical trials for a drug called DCA, which performed well in laboratory animals: it dramatically shrank tumors. DCA works by "waking up" dormant mitochondria in cancer cells. In order for a cell to become cancerous, its mitochondria have to be switched off, or the mutations will be noticed by the mitochondria and they will trigger apoptosis (cell death). Switching them on causes cancer cells to commit suicide and does not harm healthy cells.
DCA is usually well tolerated (though there can be side effects), and it's an old drug that's no longer under patent, so it's cheap. There are lots of questions about dose, delivery method, and efficacy in human cancer patients. Clinical trials were estimated to cost about $1.5 million Canadian. Something like this, with successful animal studies already done, ought to look mighty attractive to a genuine cancer charity doling out research dollars, right?
Wrong. The ACS has no interest.
Neither has the US Government, but they don't mind spending over $1 billion US on genetic sequencing for cancer cells.
This is an odd thing to do. Cancer cells all have this in common: they have lost the ability to repair damage to their DNA. Mutations in cancer cells are famously rapid and unpredicatable. Aside from the 120 or so specific mutations which are required for cells to become cancerous in the first place, all those other mutations - hundreds or thousands in some patients - are meaningless noise.
It's a boondoggle, a hand-out, that will not produce useful science.
I think we could be a lot further along in treating cancer than we are. Corrupt regulators and charities are blocking progress. As for journalism, it's not doing enough either - but since most journalistic outlets are owned by giant corporate media which are dependent on advertising revenues from industrial carcinogen producers, what are the chances?
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Posted by: I, Deas on Oct 24, 2007 8:04 PM
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Where did you get your information about false accusations?
My feeling is that this is something you've either heard from others, in which case i'd bet its an attempt to lessen the seriousness of the issue and to blame women for "being out to get men," its the same as the supposed false rape accusation argument (that many women cry rape). Or it is a case of the victim recanting, abuse may have taken place however the woman decided not to prosecute for some reason.
"The VAST majority of abusers may be men but women are making great strides towards being equal opportunity abusers."
True its not only men who are abusive, but as you said the vast majority of abusers are men. Female abusers are often the emotional or psychological abusers, whereas male abusers are those as well as the violent abusers. its a part of traditional gender roles, the man is the breadwinner and the woman stays at home, the woman is submissive to her husband, "the cult of true womanhood". But lets not switch attention away from the women on this issue and focus on just why men are the vast majority of abusers.
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Posted by: Judy Kolbaba on Oct 25, 2007 6:11 AM
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Posted by: DB in Canada on Oct 27, 2007 12:37 PM
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People react very strongly when you tell them you have breast cancer. It's visceral. It's not just about sex but about the integrity of the body. When you're faced with a mastectomy, the full, rich meaning of breasts and being a woman comes to you. It's much more profound and intimate than anything in this article would suggest.
Sure the pink thing is huge exploitation of "the cause". But this article is just as simplistic. For example, the author seems unaware that younger women tend to have more aggressive cancers and a higher death rate. Having breast cancer in your 20s or 30s or even early 40s is very, very bad for your health. And surely there is a difference between having cancer when you're 75 and when you're 35? After all, cancer is a disease of aging and there's a certain inevitability to it with age.
I agree with those who say there's no need to pit these things against each other: it's very irritating and unnecessary.
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Posted by: DB in Canada on Oct 27, 2007 12:37 PM
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People react very strongly when you tell them you have breast cancer. It's visceral. It's not just about sex but about the integrity of the body. When you're faced with a mastectomy, the full, rich meaning of breasts and being a woman comes to you. It's much more profound and intimate than anything in this article would suggest.
Sure the pink thing is huge exploitation of "the cause". But this article is just as simplistic. For example, the author seems unaware that younger women tend to have more aggressive cancers and a higher death rate. Having breast cancer in your 20s or 30s or even early 40s is very, very bad for your health. And surely there is a difference between having cancer when you're 75 and when you're 35? After all, cancer is a disease of aging and there's a certain inevitability to it with age.
I agree with those who say there's no need to pit these things against each other: it's very irritating and unnecessary.
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Posted by: KellyMac on Oct 27, 2007 1:06 PM
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As for domestic violence, I think we should address it, and hold everyone to the same standard, regardless of gender. That being said, though, I think it happens far less than the hype would have us believe
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Posted by: faultroy on Oct 28, 2007 4:30 PM
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Furthermore that Domestic Violence has been a synonym for the " Kachinngg " of the cash register ringing for all those women in the "social arts," which derive a significant portion of their income from federal and state entitlement programs trying to "save" women from these "terrorist" type male miscreants. And of course let us not forget the RECIVIDISM rate of "battered" women that go back with their spouses or boy friends once things cool off and they bled out all these wonderful taxpayer given freebies--97 percent go back to these Bozos--in those cases were there is legitimate domestic violence--and of course the rest is just your standard " he said she said."
And, like Marshall, if a skirt does not have something to whine about, she either makes someting up, or makes her significant other miserable by telling him "he doesn't understand her" and that if her doesn't know what the problem is "she isn't going to bother telling him!!!!"
Marshall can't have it both ways. My feeling is that Ms. Marshall has way too much time on her hands. She either needs a real life or a real job--or preferably both.
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Posted by: Linda on Oct 29, 2007 2:23 AM
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First: Corporate America & Political leaders, ESPECIALLY Republicans like BUSH, do everything possible to "lull" the American people into "pooh poohing" the Environmental & Human Health disaster, which man-made CHEMICALS & RADIOACTIVITY have become.
Gee, how harmful can Radioactivity or Chemicals BE, if they pump them into WOMEN's BREASTS to FIGHT CANCER, or even CURE Cancer!
I just watched PBS's NATURE show's "Silence of the Bees" documentary. They found 40 different TOXIC substances in the bees the scientists were studying, because the BEES ARE DISAPPEARING! Talk about "canaries in the mine".
During this entire MONTH of "Breast Cancer" awareness, was their any mention of ENVIRONMENTAL factors like these toxic chemicals, like Pesticides, like the DDT that is in ALL Baby Boomer women's Breasts?
Pres. Bush is especially hypocritical, acting like he cares about Cancer sufferers, when he has done everything he can to prevent progress toward a SMOKE - FREE future.
Pres. Reagan tried to shut up his Surgeon General, C. Everett Koop, who instead continued to SPEAK UP about Smoking & it's Health effects, until he was "pushed out" of the Reagan admin. Bush makes sure he only appoints flunkies.
It's so IRONIC that we are pumping TOXIC CHEMICALS into Cancer Patients, when we should be taking these Toxins OUT of the Environment, cleaning up the mess!
It's so IRONIC that we are giving Cancer Patients RADIATION "Therapy" -- when we live every DAY with the THREAT of Radiation, should be have another THREE MILE ISLAND, or God Forbid, a CHERNOBYL; & the Repubs. are pushing to built MORE Nuclear Power Plants.
The funniest "celebrity" I ever saw do a PSA about Breast Cancer, was a Woman Golfer, who had for years played in the VIRGINIA SLIMS sponsored golf tournaments, which were responsible for countless young women starting to smoke.
November is "Great American Smoke-Out" Month -- watch & see just how FEEBLE the Media attention is to this public health awareness campaign!
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Posted by: KaptainSpiffy on Oct 24, 2007 3:27 AM
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The issue of selling under the banner of 'breast cancer' is a relevant issue. Focus on that issue and that of abuse have always waxed and waned, since both issues have actually become issues that ARE openly discussed. Sure, abuse should and will be highlighted (in this country it will be after some affluent white woman tells her story on Oprah). But to pick up and place these two issues in the ring to go at each other is more of a philosophical exercise for the author to sort out rather than be paraded as war spending vs. the S-CHIP program.
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Posted by: anothername on Oct 24, 2007 4:46 AM
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Furthermore, placing the focus on how the media reports on the topics is important. I have observed in the past year how much the general public uses information provided by the media as their references and their examples. In other words, people will not talk about a story if the media does not inform them about it, then they will talk about the story in the language used by the media.
Then there is the personal believability of the two issues. Tell somebody you have breast cancer, or any cancer, and you are given sympathy and support. However, tell somebody you are being domestically abused, particularly if it is debilitating verbal abuse, and people will try to deny it because they know the man and he has never shown any violence towards them. (The features about domestic violence that I have seen tend to focus on homicides or on hotlines. Educating the public on the signs of domestic violence, whether the suspected victim is friend or stranger, is missing. I also have heard from sexual assault centers that sexual assault discussions are even more taboo than are talks about domestic violence. In contrast, breast self exams are widely promoted.)
Ultimately, it comes back to the roles of women in a society and/or a culture. Women with breasts are objects of adulation and objects to be possessed. Women within a relationship are expected to protect the public image of that domestic group, to show the man as a strong breadwinner, and to keep the children from being pitied or ridiculed. If we talk about cancer, we talk about a person. If we talk about domestic abuse, we start talking about society and that scares people.
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Posted by: I, Deas on Oct 24, 2007 4:59 AM
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Also many of us may have see bumper stickers or t-shirts with messages like "Save the Ta-Tas!," and we raise awareness of breast cancer so that we can continue to objectify womens bodies.
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Posted by: VannaLaRoche on Oct 24, 2007 6:11 AM
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What happens to your mom or sister is a big deal for most if not all women. And when it's a disease that can also affect you, you are tied in with the fear rope too.
I don't doubt at all that these pressure points are well considered and hammered on in the Pretty In Pink campaign.
Personally, I despise the infantilization of women through the constant pinkifying, the banal angel and teddy-bear pins, the grating cutesiness of it all. Sick-make me.
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In fact, I'm exactly as shocked as I was the last three thousand times!
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Posted by: satyagirl on Oct 24, 2007 7:36 AM
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The dairy industry is so powerful that they make sure no one ever makes this connection. In fact they are the largest employer of dieticians in our country to ensure that their misinformation is ingrained in our culture. I studied dietetics in college and later learned that the dairy industry had funded many of the studies that my education was based on.
For anyone who is curious about the role diet plays in your health, check out The China Study by T. Colin Campbell -- (thechinastudy.com). This book is amazing and details the most comprehensive study of nutrition ever conducted which totally destroys the myths we are told about eating a lot of protein and that you need dairy products to build strong bones. Animal protein and especially dairy are the triggers for many cancers. Jane Plant's books are also excellent for info on the connection between diet and cancer -- check out janeplant.com for a list of her books.
There are many scientists and dieticians that believe the connection between dairy products and cancer is as strong as the link between cigarette smoking and lung cancer. There are definite parallels between the dairy industry and the tobacco industry. I think a couple decades from now, the dairy industry is going to be facing major lawsuits and the truth will finally start being known by the masses. But in the meantime, people are suffering while the dairy industry profits.
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Posted by: drricklippin on Oct 24, 2007 7:47 AM
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We will never cure all cancer- but the cancer cure "industry" will lie to you and say we can.
Also we cannot afford not to emphasize prevention.
When we can't cure, dignified care is very important.
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Posted by: dearOread on Oct 24, 2007 9:53 AM
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Where's my Support the Homeless Campbell's soup? I want a Support the Troops bottle of nailpolish! I want a Support Research for Anal Cancer lipstick! And since I am a woman, I want a Support "Victims" (sorry, hate that word) of Domestic Violence dish soap! Preferably Dawn or Joy, I don't go for el cheapo shizz.
Come on now, we all know they market this coz we get to say "breasts"...tee hee.
If you really give a flying...ahem...why don't you send your cash DIRECTLY to the researchers for funding? I am sure they're not gonna look down on cash donations.
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For example: businesses and politicians make a big deal about holding free breast cancer screening clinics. However, what happens once the woman is diagnosed with breast cancer? What about the lack of national health care to provide follow-up and treatment? Especially for these women who don't have health insurance and also don't happen to carry around $50,000 in their purses to pay for treatment?
It's like then: "sorry babe, your on your own"
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As far as I'm concerned they can put photos of breasts on every single magazine cover, if it helps end this disease.
Women who are in domestic violence situations have a choice, albeit a difficult choice. But they can get out of the situation. You don't have that choice with breast cancer, it just might take your life no matter what you do. Honestly, I would rather have someone beat me than to go through one more round of chemo.
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Posted by: Ingarose on Oct 24, 2007 4:55 PM
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As far as domestic violence is concerned, we are a violent society. If the 'decider king' pushes violence against this that and another nation, it only follows that other would be kings think that they can solve things with violence.
We need a month dedicated to stop violence everywhere, which includes Afghanistan, Iraq, Palestine and Israel, Syria and violence in all of our homes. If violence is accepted to solve problems overseas, then violence will be accepted at home.
I wonder how many people displaced by the California fires, or the Katrina victams worry about breast cancer or domestic violence?
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Posted by: Urgelt on Oct 24, 2007 6:10 PM
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Some months back I visited the American Cancer Society web pages and looked for information about carcinogens. There was almost nothing there. They have little to no interest in chemicals in products which cause cancer, and certainly are not interested in testifying before Congress regarding the need to control carcinogens in consumer products or in industrial water and air discharges.
Why is that, exactly?
The ACS derives a great deal of its income from the industries which manufacture those products. It's led by executives with close ties to those industries. When they testify before Congress, it's about trends in cancer rates, cancer sob stories intended to wring more donations, and treatment developments.
But not just any treatment developments. Oh, no. The ACS is pretty much only interested in patentable drugs.
There are dozens of stories floating around the internet, anecdotal stories which claim that this or that treatment helps with cancer. None of them has been the subject of peer-reviewed double-blind studies. Everyone in the cancer industry guides money away from those, and towards patented drugs. I don't know if any of those "cures" are any good. But it sure would be nice if they had some genuine scientific attention.
The University of Alberta is currently struggling to fund clinical trials for a drug called DCA, which performed well in laboratory animals: it dramatically shrank tumors. DCA works by "waking up" dormant mitochondria in cancer cells. In order for a cell to become cancerous, its mitochondria have to be switched off, or the mutations will be noticed by the mitochondria and they will trigger apoptosis (cell death). Switching them on causes cancer cells to commit suicide and does not harm healthy cells.
DCA is usually well tolerated (though there can be side effects), and it's an old drug that's no longer under patent, so it's cheap. There are lots of questions about dose, delivery method, and efficacy in human cancer patients. Clinical trials were estimated to cost about $1.5 million Canadian. Something like this, with successful animal studies already done, ought to look mighty attractive to a genuine cancer charity doling out research dollars, right?
Wrong. The ACS has no interest.
Neither has the US Government, but they don't mind spending over $1 billion US on genetic sequencing for cancer cells.
This is an odd thing to do. Cancer cells all have this in common: they have lost the ability to repair damage to their DNA. Mutations in cancer cells are famously rapid and unpredicatable. Aside from the 120 or so specific mutations which are required for cells to become cancerous in the first place, all those other mutations - hundreds or thousands in some patients - are meaningless noise.
It's a boondoggle, a hand-out, that will not produce useful science.
I think we could be a lot further along in treating cancer than we are. Corrupt regulators and charities are blocking progress. As for journalism, it's not doing enough either - but since most journalistic outlets are owned by giant corporate media which are dependent on advertising revenues from industrial carcinogen producers, what are the chances?
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Posted by: I, Deas on Oct 24, 2007 8:04 PM
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Where did you get your information about false accusations?
My feeling is that this is something you've either heard from others, in which case i'd bet its an attempt to lessen the seriousness of the issue and to blame women for "being out to get men," its the same as the supposed false rape accusation argument (that many women cry rape). Or it is a case of the victim recanting, abuse may have taken place however the woman decided not to prosecute for some reason.
"The VAST majority of abusers may be men but women are making great strides towards being equal opportunity abusers."
True its not only men who are abusive, but as you said the vast majority of abusers are men. Female abusers are often the emotional or psychological abusers, whereas male abusers are those as well as the violent abusers. its a part of traditional gender roles, the man is the breadwinner and the woman stays at home, the woman is submissive to her husband, "the cult of true womanhood". But lets not switch attention away from the women on this issue and focus on just why men are the vast majority of abusers.
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Posted by: DB in Canada on Oct 27, 2007 12:37 PM
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People react very strongly when you tell them you have breast cancer. It's visceral. It's not just about sex but about the integrity of the body. When you're faced with a mastectomy, the full, rich meaning of breasts and being a woman comes to you. It's much more profound and intimate than anything in this article would suggest.
Sure the pink thing is huge exploitation of "the cause". But this article is just as simplistic. For example, the author seems unaware that younger women tend to have more aggressive cancers and a higher death rate. Having breast cancer in your 20s or 30s or even early 40s is very, very bad for your health. And surely there is a difference between having cancer when you're 75 and when you're 35? After all, cancer is a disease of aging and there's a certain inevitability to it with age.
I agree with those who say there's no need to pit these things against each other: it's very irritating and unnecessary.
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Posted by: DB in Canada on Oct 27, 2007 12:37 PM
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People react very strongly when you tell them you have breast cancer. It's visceral. It's not just about sex but about the integrity of the body. When you're faced with a mastectomy, the full, rich meaning of breasts and being a woman comes to you. It's much more profound and intimate than anything in this article would suggest.
Sure the pink thing is huge exploitation of "the cause". But this article is just as simplistic. For example, the author seems unaware that younger women tend to have more aggressive cancers and a higher death rate. Having breast cancer in your 20s or 30s or even early 40s is very, very bad for your health. And surely there is a difference between having cancer when you're 75 and when you're 35? After all, cancer is a disease of aging and there's a certain inevitability to it with age.
I agree with those who say there's no need to pit these things against each other: it's very irritating and unnecessary.
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Posted by: KellyMac on Oct 27, 2007 1:06 PM
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As for domestic violence, I think we should address it, and hold everyone to the same standard, regardless of gender. That being said, though, I think it happens far less than the hype would have us believe
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Posted by: faultroy on Oct 28, 2007 4:30 PM
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Furthermore that Domestic Violence has been a synonym for the " Kachinngg " of the cash register ringing for all those women in the "social arts," which derive a significant portion of their income from federal and state entitlement programs trying to "save" women from these "terrorist" type male miscreants. And of course let us not forget the RECIVIDISM rate of "battered" women that go back with their spouses or boy friends once things cool off and they bled out all these wonderful taxpayer given freebies--97 percent go back to these Bozos--in those cases were there is legitimate domestic violence--and of course the rest is just your standard " he said she said."
And, like Marshall, if a skirt does not have something to whine about, she either makes someting up, or makes her significant other miserable by telling him "he doesn't understand her" and that if her doesn't know what the problem is "she isn't going to bother telling him!!!!"
Marshall can't have it both ways. My feeling is that Ms. Marshall has way too much time on her hands. She either needs a real life or a real job--or preferably both.
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Posted by: Linda on Oct 29, 2007 2:23 AM
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First: Corporate America & Political leaders, ESPECIALLY Republicans like BUSH, do everything possible to "lull" the American people into "pooh poohing" the Environmental & Human Health disaster, which man-made CHEMICALS & RADIOACTIVITY have become.
Gee, how harmful can Radioactivity or Chemicals BE, if they pump them into WOMEN's BREASTS to FIGHT CANCER, or even CURE Cancer!
I just watched PBS's NATURE show's "Silence of the Bees" documentary. They found 40 different TOXIC substances in the bees the scientists were studying, because the BEES ARE DISAPPEARING! Talk about "canaries in the mine".
During this entire MONTH of "Breast Cancer" awareness, was their any mention of ENVIRONMENTAL factors like these toxic chemicals, like Pesticides, like the DDT that is in ALL Baby Boomer women's Breasts?
Pres. Bush is especially hypocritical, acting like he cares about Cancer sufferers, when he has done everything he can to prevent progress toward a SMOKE - FREE future.
Pres. Reagan tried to shut up his Surgeon General, C. Everett Koop, who instead continued to SPEAK UP about Smoking & it's Health effects, until he was "pushed out" of the Reagan admin. Bush makes sure he only appoints flunkies.
It's so IRONIC that we are pumping TOXIC CHEMICALS into Cancer Patients, when we should be taking these Toxins OUT of the Environment, cleaning up the mess!
It's so IRONIC that we are giving Cancer Patients RADIATION "Therapy" -- when we live every DAY with the THREAT of Radiation, should be have another THREE MILE ISLAND, or God Forbid, a CHERNOBYL; & the Repubs. are pushing to built MORE Nuclear Power Plants.
The funniest "celebrity" I ever saw do a PSA about Breast Cancer, was a Woman Golfer, who had for years played in the VIRGINIA SLIMS sponsored golf tournaments, which were responsible for countless young women starting to smoke.
November is "Great American Smoke-Out" Month -- watch & see just how FEEBLE the Media attention is to this public health awareness campaign!
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