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Feminism Vs. Fembots
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From Maria, an exotic fembot dancer in the 1927 film Metropolis, to The Stepford Wives to the recent booze-hawking sex-borgs, robotic women have long been a subject of and for feminist critique. Prevailing logic has said that fembots are designed to fit their (male) makers' desires; that no matter how futuristic they may look, they promote retrograde sexist ideals.
Critics have jumped on both alcohol ads. Feminist bloggers, for example, have blamed SVEDKA_GRL for encouraging the Barbification of the female body. And Bob Garfield of Ad Age says Heineken has "reduced half the world to a man-servicing beer tap." Perhaps wary of such conflation, the promoters of Bionic Woman have gone out of their way to point out how their protagonist is different. Michelle Ryan, who plays the new Jaime Sommers in Bionic Woman, compares her character to Angelina Jolie in Tomb Raider: "When ... you see her kicking ass, you're like, 'Yeah, I want to be like that. I want to be strong, and I want to be confident and empowered ... I think that's a really great message that Bionic Woman will hopefully bring out there."
From this perspective, the mute sexbots of Heineken and Svedka stand wholly apart from the progressive politics of today's Bionic Woman. But closer examination of these various fembots reveals that feminism isn't served by such black and white simplifications. For all its girl-power PR, the new Bionic Woman is not nearly as enlightened as Ryan suggests. And those booze ads? They might be more futuristic than your average beer billboards after all.
The original Bionic Woman premiered on ABC in 1976, one year after The Stepford Wives. America was in the midst of the Equal Rights Amendment debate, and networks contributed to the national reconsideration of women's roles with a wave of prime time superheroines like Wonder Woman and Charlie's Angels. Jaime Sommers was first played by Lindsay Wagner as a two-episode love interest in The Six Million Dollar Man. Her portrayal of a professional tennis player -- Billie Jean King had won her Battle of the Sexes a few years prior -- bionically rebuilt after a skydiving accident proved so popular she was resurrected from her written death and given a spinoff.
Seen today, the original Bionic Woman's politics are dwarfed by the cartoon sound effects and campy action scenes. Sommers' sex appeal is unsubtle. With her feathered hair and flirty laugh, she seems as feminist as a short-shorted Jessica Simpson singing, "These Boots Are Made for Walking." Some theorists have suggested this was intentional, that the hypersexuality of these uber-chicks made women's social progress cartoonish and thus culturally digestible. Others have argued that, as comic book porn-esque as they were, characters like Bionic Woman paved the way not only for the slew of Xenas and Buffys and Tomb Raiders of recent years, but also for the more realistic and culturally complicated Cagneys, Laceys and Murphy Browns of prime time television.
The new Bionic Woman, then, certainly looks like progress. Gone is the Wagner blond. In is Ryan's brooding brunette. The lighting is dark and a category 2 hurricane seems to be in some kind of holding pattern over the set. One of the first shots has her slamming a man into a window. In another scene, a little girl in the back seat of a car tells her mom about a running woman outpacing them in the woods: "I just thought it was cool that a girl could do that." Later, we see the young newly bionic bartender unintimidated by her new spy boss: "If we do this, whatever it is 'this' is, we do it on my terms."
Donna Haraway, academic and author of The Cyborg Manifesto has long argued that rather than subjugating women, technology can be their liberator. We no longer live in a society or economy dictated by biological discrepancies. She suggests machines and cybertechnology allow us to dismantle "natural" limitations and reconstruct our bodies and identity to our liking.
Bionic ass-kicking is not quite what she had in mind, but still, the promos for the Bionic Woman seem to build this promise. Her body's functionality takes a much more prominent role than its sexuality. Her wardrobe is more CSI detective than Fawcett pinup. Indeed, television critics are pointing to the Bionic Woman as the latest example of women as "the new men." As executive producer David Eick says, "It is using the idea of artificial technology as a metaphor for what contemporary women sometimes feel is necessary to do everything that needs to be done."
Well, except that the new Jaime Sommers is not a member of the mommy wars. She is a 24-year-old bartender. Eick and the networks are only too eager to sell her as a neofeminist icon, but if we are really to take the show as a metaphor for women and contemporary life, it reveals sexual politics and technology moving at very different paces.
Because for all the feel-good clips that come from her long jumps and quick reflexes, the real tension of the show grows from the fact that, in spite of her power, Jaime Sommers is not really in control. "How can you take me seriously? Why are you with me?" asks Ms. Sommers of her paramour, a surgeon and bio-ethics professor who, after her car accident, bionically modifies her body without her consent. And the spy boss shown taking orders from Ryan in the promos later reminds her: "You have $50 million of my property in you, so I guess you could say I'm your landlord."
To its credit, Bionic Woman 2.0 has the makings of a good mystery series. Her boyfriend and her boss-man are cut from the Lost cloth that confuses who's good and who's bad. Still, though these sort of story lines are designed more to intrigue viewers than to address any bionic-feminist politics, they also remind us that, in today's culture and economy, the equation of physical strength with personal power is actually passé. Dick Cheney, I doubt, has a decent karate kick. Oprah is far more powerful than The Rock.
Plus, if we are talking about power in terms of control, technology does not liberate Bionic Woman. It makes her a subject. This becomes even more evident when you look at the biggest physical threat to Jamie: Sarah Corvis, another bionic woman played by Katee Sackoff. The girlbot-on-girlbot action is not new to the series. In the original show, Lindsay Wagner had several bouts with a series of fembots, gynoids that, when de-masked, revealed frighteningly budget robotic faces. Corvis, however, is a women's studies course's wet dream.
With two bionic arms, she's more fully mechanized than Jaime. Her hotness is harder, less feminine. She's also purportedly "out of control," because she's taken the technology into her own hands, roboticizing one of her eyes and part of her chest (!) herself. In the middle of a rain scene reminiscent of the Blade Runner ending, Sarah tells Jaime: "I'm cutting away all the parts of me that are weak."
But she is also no Daryl Hannah-style replicant. She is very human, and the battle between her feminine frailty and her bionic ambitions are scene-stealing. After a killing rampage in the lab, she pleads with one of her creators: "Tell me you love me." He obliges. Right before he shoots to kill. Eick himself has said that Sarah is "a cautionary tale." But combine that with his comment that technology in the series is a metaphor for modern women's conflicts, and his prognosis is actually quite bleak. Never mind Jaime, the sweet girl to whom this just happened to her. Look at Corvis, older, stronger and self-modifying her body, and you'll see Donna Haraway's vision doomed to a much darker and more desperate future.
In a story for NPR's All Things Considered, Neda Ulaby posits we can tell a lot about our historical relationship to technology via the two Bionic Women. In the mid-'70s, new technology like the Walkman and personal computers bore an air of utopian promise. Wagner's Jaime Sommers mirrored this with a light sci-fi simplicity. Today, Blackberrys keep us working on the weekends, the newest igadget is obsolete in weeks, and one can't go on a date or job interview without being first screened by Google. As a culture, we are a little more cynical about the cyber world. The new Bionic Woman's noir style, Ulaby suggests, shows our increasing sensitivity to technology's side effects.
It seems the same is true in respect to feminism. The mid-'70s women's movement made equality seem as potentially easy as Free to Be You and Me. Women were being told they were no longer obligated to stay at home, tend to the kids, do the laundry. It was freeing, and pop culture echoed this optimism with a wave of primetime wonder women. Recent mainstream feminist debate, however, has been much more skeptical. Bestseller books and op-ed pages have raged over the costs of this progress, on its effect on child-rearing, on women's health, on financial security, on the simple expectation that women should "do it all." Our Bionic Woman reflects this wariness.
Which takes us back to those Svedka sex borgs. I'm not about to argue that fembots are a positive trend in advertising. Though Garfield might have been overreading the Heineken ads when he suggested they were serving beer out their uterus, they still disturb.
But as mute robots, are they really more subservient and here for your pleasure than the soft-flesh porn lite usually served between games? As far as the argument that female cyborgs embody sexist body ideals, are they that much worse than the standard 34-24-36 Budweiser model? If anything, the impossibility of their parts would seem to dissuade emulation.
Plus, while the SVEDKA_GRL cashes in on the idea of making it with a big-breasted piece of metal, the ad's not all retrograde. "Thank you for making the gay man's fashion gene available over-the-counter in 2033," reads one of its New York billboards. "Madame President and her first lady serve Svedka at all official state functions," pushes another. It's more sensational than it is political but at least she/it boasts a point of view.
"I would rather be a cyborg than a goddess," Donna Haraway has said. And I would rather kick down a door and pull off a Jamie Sommers fight sequence than be a Svedka cocktail waitress. But just as physical strength does not translate to personal power, all robotic images of women need not equal their subjugation. As our world and economy become increasingly mechanized, it seems so do our representations of women. These pop-culture fembots are built not only out of our ideas about technology, but also out of our cultural expectations of gender. It benefits us to unpack their political implications, to make sure our future is not burdened with the biases of our past.
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Posted by: ArtemInox on Sep 26, 2007 12:18 AM
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Posted by: LMNOP on Sep 26, 2007 12:54 AM
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"And the spy boss shown taking orders from Ryan in the promos later reminds her: "You have $50 million of my property in you, so I guess you could say I'm your landlord.""
OK, ladies, that's spooky. That almost neocon creepy. I would agree with someone who said that that comment betrays and promotes an attitude of utter domination of a woman by a man.
Now, from the Department of "You've come a long way, baby!":
"The new Bionic Woman, then, certainly looks like progress. Gone is the Wagner blond. In is Ryan's brooding brunette."
Oh no you di'in't! Is this, then, the feminist legacy: women are more realistically portrayed these days by not making them all blondes? How far away can equal pay be now?
(BTW, fun fact, not to be a spelling nazi, but it's "blonde" for a woman, and "blond" for a man)
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Sep 26, 2007 4:54 AM
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I suppose it's fun to analyze the politics of a show, but what makes a show good is not whether it's politically-correct, but whether it's good. In fact, politically-incorrect shows can often be more powerful and "political".
The Harry Mudd episodes are a good example. If they came out today, some of today's feminists would probably trash them to pieces. But I thought they were powerful commentaries on the empty promises of trying to create "perfect" women.
It seems a lot of feminists make the same mistake, thinking some PC, anti-Barbie-Doll version of the ideal woman is necessarily a better one, or a happier one. The good part about this article is that it seems to wander closer to that realization towards the end.
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Posted by: Q30 on Sep 26, 2007 6:09 AM
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Speaking of which, I found some feminists' reactions to that movie to be quite revealing...
The (female) 3rd Terminator robot kills dozens upon dozens of people all over the place, causes immense damage everywhere-- but when Arnold's Terminator fights with her in a restroom, feminists (Ariana Huffington, for instance) said it was a misogynistic image to have a woman's head smashed into a toilet.
So the 3rd Terminator can slaughter people left and right- that's fine. But as soon as SHE gets struck, we must grab the torches and pitchforks because it's a horrible image which has been seared into our brains. Perhaps it enables violence against women, whereas the woman's much larger spree of violence enables no one?
This was a little bit bone-headed, no? But it's very typical of how feminists tend to act.
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Sep 26, 2007 6:40 AM
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But wouldn't prohibition, accompanied by a government crackdown on related media one doesn't approve of be a so much more streamlined approach to solving your neighbors' ills?
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Posted by: Cruella on Sep 26, 2007 7:24 AM
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The whole fem-bot concept is just odd.
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Posted by: Suzon on Sep 26, 2007 7:42 AM
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Very dangerous combination. As for the fem-bots, we've had Barbie for over 40 (?) years now and we have had women and girls trying to emulate the top heavy figure and wasp waist so I don't see how additional harm will be done.
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Posted by: chaoslegs on Sep 26, 2007 8:16 AM
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To me (a male) I am looking forward to seeing issues that sci-fi will bring out in it. Will the Corvis character be a cautionary tale about losing humanity in attempts at perfection (eliminating weakness).
It is interesting that the author didn't talk about the other show with Fembots. The new Battlestar Galactica, which Katee Sackoff played Starbuck, the brash pilot who likes to smoke, drink, gamble and have sex. Or the fact that there are a few fembots, including Tricia Helfer who came to acting from the model world.
The issue of the 'landlord' that paid for it is another interesting one, but I don't think it is an exclusive feminist issue. Slavery was not gender specific, neither was indentured servants. The idea that this was done to her without her consent, and that she is no obligated to the people the subjageted her to it is a great ethical situation that should be examined.
Now the $6 Million dollar man was remade, and he served the folks that remade him, but he was already in the government as an astronaut and maybe military (weren't most astronauts back then in the air force as test pilots too). So he would be inclined to follow orders. Of course you could twist it into to a workers comp issue, and that the mission with physical therapy :)
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Posted by: Ghoulman on Sep 26, 2007 8:46 AM
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American "entertainment" has, about, five actual female characters. All are submissive to the male culture around them. It matters little if you give your female protagonist super-powers and then make it clear she is only gets power FROM MEN.
There's nothing feminist going on here, only fantasy. That is, girls are allowed to fantasize that they can be bionic and jump high and fight other fembots in the rain, but only if they remain submissive to the men the entertainment is ACTUALLY aimed at. Lara Croft is about her tits, not her guns. Charlies Angels are sex sluts, not detectives. Wonder Woman is wearing just the most tit popping mistake ever invented.
Big weirdness... the original Bionic Woman with Lindsay Wagner is far more feminist and realistic in that the character was never owned by anyone or beholden to a male power structure. Today's Bionic Woman is a barslut who accepts that her body is literally OWNED by the male. Yet the article here doesn't seem to get that even though it mentions the fact.
Also, I can't believe this article mentions David Eike (who produces the new Bionic Woman) and doesn't mention the new Battlestar Galactica... a show that is filled with robot sex objects. Who actually have sex. Come on... Alternet, this article gets a thumbs down for being culturally illiterate.
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Posted by: MAD on Sep 26, 2007 10:24 AM
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And yet, that didn't prevent Alternet from placing a promo for the show right beside the article.
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Posted by: felipe on Sep 26, 2007 11:08 AM
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Definitely worth 4:10 of your time
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Posted by: Urgelt on Sep 26, 2007 1:22 PM
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Other commenters have tackled the faux-feminist faux-empowerment phenomenon in this insipid television show at sufficient length, but I'll pause to endorse their views in general before moving on to my primary point. There's no good news in the images of women presented here. But it's worse than presenting the heroine as owned by her lover and subservient to him. Much worse.
You see, real women are being told that to be powerful in any sense, they need expensive modifications. Plastic surgeons are going to love this show.
But that's not the worst of it.
This show, like most of the others on television, crams violence aplenty between the commercial breaks. It's part of a trend in media towards desensitizing us to violence. And who is it who bears the brunt of that desensitization?
Women.
Another feminist writing for Alternet recently took aim at the porn industry and delicately suggested it was time to begin seriously censoring it for encouraging the debasement and humiliation of women. More power for government to control speech, sure, why not? That pesky 1st Amendment is "just a piece of paper," as Bush famously said. Never mind that censorship opens the door to authoritarianism. If you like the patriarchal cruelty we're seeing in a democracy, you'll love cruelty under an authoritarian patriarchy.
It's all about desensitization, and the feminists don't get it. Media is pummeling empathy into the ground in our culture. A study of television conducted a few years ago found that if the real world experienced the rate of violent death shown during prime time broadcast television, the human race would depopulate itself in just a few weeks.
It's desensitization that enables men to regard women as objects. It's desensitization that enables men to look at violence as a solution to their problems. Desensitizing influences are everywhere: movies, television, pulp fiction, the evening news reporting road rage, routinely police brutality, the death penalty. One-quarter of the world's prison inmates are locked up in our prisons, and we don't care. We start wars eagerly (though we weary of them, it's not empathy that gives us pause). We shower spite on celebrities. Hate is as reflexive as brushing our teeth.
And we're supposed to take heart because, in this show, women are doing the desensitizing?
The show invites girls to fantasize themselves on a killing spree, to fantasize themselves with fantastic strength and invulnability, to fantasize, in short, that they have the same powers men fantasize about. But it's accessible only to those with fantastic wealth; it's accessible only to those who undergo body modifications. I can't think of a more direct super-capitalist message than that one. If you're rich, if you consume technology, you can win. Better get cracking and earn your fortune!
And, oh, by the way, it doesn't matter how many people you step on as you climb to the top. You're desensitized.
But winning is not what we need at all, if women are to improve their treatment at the hands of men. What we need is empathy. Why has the American feminist movement failed to grasp that essential fact?
Because at its root, American feminism is itself devoid of empathy. It got that way through outrage; it's desensitized.
Cheer for Jaime Sommers all you like, feminists, but you're cheering for the destruction of all your hopes.
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Posted by: Suzon on Sep 26, 2007 1:42 PM
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Okay, so draw a line under it (not something I'm usually inclined to promote). Jerk away to your heart's (or whatever) content but criminalise any new porn.
I suppose it might end up with it being like the 19th century stuff with big ladies in corsets, but how much of a sacrifice would that be to draw the line under continuing victimisation?
Crikey, I'm not a censor or prude by nature or a disapprover of guys having fun. I can't even defend a stance of women being more honorably screwed as Wal-Mart employees than as porn stars. (And, guys, you are very vulnerable in regard to downloading kiddie porm, even if only once.)
So can we not consider trying to make a society where nobody gets screwed without REAL consent?
How about no more NEW porn victims?
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Posted by: Sojourner on Sep 26, 2007 4:03 PM
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Appealing to artistic categories to justify comic book story-telling borders on the nausiating. Is there no limit to the barrenness of pop cultrue, even when it's about barren (but powerful; which is all that counts, right?) women?
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Posted by: dancerkc on Sep 26, 2007 8:33 PM
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She tells him that she has a good idea of what she can do now (having experimented with her bionics, including combat martial arts) and then tells him that if she rolls with the program, it is on HER terms, not his. As she leaves, Ferrer's character turns to his psychologist character (very strong woman) and says to her that they have a good candidate for their program.
This is not one-pointed or one-sided (as claimed in this article), and the only way to make the point made above was to cherry-pick the landlord/ownership quote, because that was only one part of the back-and-forth between the characters. Sackhoff, for example, is (here) the first bionic woman who has gone rogue. She sets her own wild card. The supposedly all-controlling Ferrer character doesn't seem to have as much control as he thinks.
So, if you make a point please make one which is really there.
Further note: This show also borrows a lot of feeling from Blade Runner and the symbiants (listen to the background music) as well as a lot of actors from Battlestar Galactica (I am assuming because of the executive producer who also comes from BG).
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Posted by: Eat Politicians on Sep 26, 2007 8:59 PM
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What is with the junk feminism on Alternet lately? Jesus. It's been a string of these Andrea Dworkin wannabes followed by this nonsense.
Look. I'm sorry that Alicia Rebensdorf is jealous of robots. I'm jealous of male robots. That is not gender specific. Robots are simply better looking than us.
*sigh*
Look, feminism is on the cutting edge.
Naomi Zack - Brilliant up and coming philosopher.
Naomi Klein - Brilliant analysis of political science.
Amy Goodman - Best TV journalism available. Brilliant commentary.
Alicia Rebensdorf - is jealous of robots.
That pretty much sums it up. The question for me is why do I keep coming back and torturing myself by slogging through these terrible articles?
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Posted by: Blue Heron on Sep 26, 2007 9:27 PM
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Posted by: jugdish88 on Sep 26, 2007 11:25 PM
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Completely ripe for feminist analysis, especially since the entire body of work is shown.
The problem I have with the analysis of the Bionic Woman is that it is only 1/24 of a whole. Thematic analysis is impossible to do when only part of a whole is shown, at least in serial drama television. For example, Heroes was a show about internal and external change, destiny vs. choice, being "normal" vs. being yourself, etc.. If you analyzed the first episode, you would simply be left with a vague idea of where the show was going.
Another example would be Battlestar Galactica (which David Eick produces). In the miniseries and first season, you can start to sense difficult portrayals of our foreign policy that many Americans would feel uncomfortable dealing with. The question would have been, "will they go the full Monty"? Well, they did, by having an occupation of the "heroes" in a desolate land, mirroring our Iraqi quagmire.
What I am saying is, lets see where Eick is going to take us with the ideas of freedom and feminism before we analyze the show. I would love to see a new analysis at the end of the first season (as long as the show is, and probably will be, licked up). That would be "kick-ass".
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Posted by: ArtemInox on Sep 27, 2007 3:39 AM
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Posted by: kcgm on Oct 12, 2007 3:27 PM
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I saw this on YouTube:
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Posted by: LMNOP on Sep 26, 2007 12:54 AM
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"And the spy boss shown taking orders from Ryan in the promos later reminds her: "You have $50 million of my property in you, so I guess you could say I'm your landlord.""
OK, ladies, that's spooky. That almost neocon creepy. I would agree with someone who said that that comment betrays and promotes an attitude of utter domination of a woman by a man.
Now, from the Department of "You've come a long way, baby!":
"The new Bionic Woman, then, certainly looks like progress. Gone is the Wagner blond. In is Ryan's brooding brunette."
Oh no you di'in't! Is this, then, the feminist legacy: women are more realistically portrayed these days by not making them all blondes? How far away can equal pay be now?
(BTW, fun fact, not to be a spelling nazi, but it's "blonde" for a woman, and "blond" for a man)
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Sep 26, 2007 4:54 AM
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I suppose it's fun to analyze the politics of a show, but what makes a show good is not whether it's politically-correct, but whether it's good. In fact, politically-incorrect shows can often be more powerful and "political".
The Harry Mudd episodes are a good example. If they came out today, some of today's feminists would probably trash them to pieces. But I thought they were powerful commentaries on the empty promises of trying to create "perfect" women.
It seems a lot of feminists make the same mistake, thinking some PC, anti-Barbie-Doll version of the ideal woman is necessarily a better one, or a happier one. The good part about this article is that it seems to wander closer to that realization towards the end.
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Posted by: Q30 on Sep 26, 2007 6:09 AM
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Speaking of which, I found some feminists' reactions to that movie to be quite revealing...
The (female) 3rd Terminator robot kills dozens upon dozens of people all over the place, causes immense damage everywhere-- but when Arnold's Terminator fights with her in a restroom, feminists (Ariana Huffington, for instance) said it was a misogynistic image to have a woman's head smashed into a toilet.
So the 3rd Terminator can slaughter people left and right- that's fine. But as soon as SHE gets struck, we must grab the torches and pitchforks because it's a horrible image which has been seared into our brains. Perhaps it enables violence against women, whereas the woman's much larger spree of violence enables no one?
This was a little bit bone-headed, no? But it's very typical of how feminists tend to act.
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Posted by: ABetterFuture on Sep 26, 2007 6:40 AM
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But wouldn't prohibition, accompanied by a government crackdown on related media one doesn't approve of be a so much more streamlined approach to solving your neighbors' ills?
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Posted by: Cruella on Sep 26, 2007 7:24 AM
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The whole fem-bot concept is just odd.
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Posted by: Suzon on Sep 26, 2007 7:42 AM
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Very dangerous combination. As for the fem-bots, we've had Barbie for over 40 (?) years now and we have had women and girls trying to emulate the top heavy figure and wasp waist so I don't see how additional harm will be done.
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Posted by: chaoslegs on Sep 26, 2007 8:16 AM
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To me (a male) I am looking forward to seeing issues that sci-fi will bring out in it. Will the Corvis character be a cautionary tale about losing humanity in attempts at perfection (eliminating weakness).
It is interesting that the author didn't talk about the other show with Fembots. The new Battlestar Galactica, which Katee Sackoff played Starbuck, the brash pilot who likes to smoke, drink, gamble and have sex. Or the fact that there are a few fembots, including Tricia Helfer who came to acting from the model world.
The issue of the 'landlord' that paid for it is another interesting one, but I don't think it is an exclusive feminist issue. Slavery was not gender specific, neither was indentured servants. The idea that this was done to her without her consent, and that she is no obligated to the people the subjageted her to it is a great ethical situation that should be examined.
Now the $6 Million dollar man was remade, and he served the folks that remade him, but he was already in the government as an astronaut and maybe military (weren't most astronauts back then in the air force as test pilots too). So he would be inclined to follow orders. Of course you could twist it into to a workers comp issue, and that the mission with physical therapy :)
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Posted by: Ghoulman on Sep 26, 2007 8:46 AM
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American "entertainment" has, about, five actual female characters. All are submissive to the male culture around them. It matters little if you give your female protagonist super-powers and then make it clear she is only gets power FROM MEN.
There's nothing feminist going on here, only fantasy. That is, girls are allowed to fantasize that they can be bionic and jump high and fight other fembots in the rain, but only if they remain submissive to the men the entertainment is ACTUALLY aimed at. Lara Croft is about her tits, not her guns. Charlies Angels are sex sluts, not detectives. Wonder Woman is wearing just the most tit popping mistake ever invented.
Big weirdness... the original Bionic Woman with Lindsay Wagner is far more feminist and realistic in that the character was never owned by anyone or beholden to a male power structure. Today's Bionic Woman is a barslut who accepts that her body is literally OWNED by the male. Yet the article here doesn't seem to get that even though it mentions the fact.
Also, I can't believe this article mentions David Eike (who produces the new Bionic Woman) and doesn't mention the new Battlestar Galactica... a show that is filled with robot sex objects. Who actually have sex. Come on... Alternet, this article gets a thumbs down for being culturally illiterate.
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Posted by: MAD on Sep 26, 2007 10:24 AM
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And yet, that didn't prevent Alternet from placing a promo for the show right beside the article.
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Posted by: felipe on Sep 26, 2007 11:08 AM
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Definitely worth 4:10 of your time
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Posted by: Urgelt on Sep 26, 2007 1:22 PM
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Other commenters have tackled the faux-feminist faux-empowerment phenomenon in this insipid television show at sufficient length, but I'll pause to endorse their views in general before moving on to my primary point. There's no good news in the images of women presented here. But it's worse than presenting the heroine as owned by her lover and subservient to him. Much worse.
You see, real women are being told that to be powerful in any sense, they need expensive modifications. Plastic surgeons are going to love this show.
But that's not the worst of it.
This show, like most of the others on television, crams violence aplenty between the commercial breaks. It's part of a trend in media towards desensitizing us to violence. And who is it who bears the brunt of that desensitization?
Women.
Another feminist writing for Alternet recently took aim at the porn industry and delicately suggested it was time to begin seriously censoring it for encouraging the debasement and humiliation of women. More power for government to control speech, sure, why not? That pesky 1st Amendment is "just a piece of paper," as Bush famously said. Never mind that censorship opens the door to authoritarianism. If you like the patriarchal cruelty we're seeing in a democracy, you'll love cruelty under an authoritarian patriarchy.
It's all about desensitization, and the feminists don't get it. Media is pummeling empathy into the ground in our culture. A study of television conducted a few years ago found that if the real world experienced the rate of violent death shown during prime time broadcast television, the human race would depopulate itself in just a few weeks.
It's desensitization that enables men to regard women as objects. It's desensitization that enables men to look at violence as a solution to their problems. Desensitizing influences are everywhere: movies, television, pulp fiction, the evening news reporting road rage, routinely police brutality, the death penalty. One-quarter of the world's prison inmates are locked up in our prisons, and we don't care. We start wars eagerly (though we weary of them, it's not empathy that gives us pause). We shower spite on celebrities. Hate is as reflexive as brushing our teeth.
And we're supposed to take heart because, in this show, women are doing the desensitizing?
The show invites girls to fantasize themselves on a killing spree, to fantasize themselves with fantastic strength and invulnability, to fantasize, in short, that they have the same powers men fantasize about. But it's accessible only to those with fantastic wealth; it's accessible only to those who undergo body modifications. I can't think of a more direct super-capitalist message than that one. If you're rich, if you consume technology, you can win. Better get cracking and earn your fortune!
And, oh, by the way, it doesn't matter how many people you step on as you climb to the top. You're desensitized.
But winning is not what we need at all, if women are to improve their treatment at the hands of men. What we need is empathy. Why has the American feminist movement failed to grasp that essential fact?
Because at its root, American feminism is itself devoid of empathy. It got that way through outrage; it's desensitized.
Cheer for Jaime Sommers all you like, feminists, but you're cheering for the destruction of all your hopes.
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Posted by: Suzon on Sep 26, 2007 1:42 PM
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Okay, so draw a line under it (not something I'm usually inclined to promote). Jerk away to your heart's (or whatever) content but criminalise any new porn.
I suppose it might end up with it being like the 19th century stuff with big ladies in corsets, but how much of a sacrifice would that be to draw the line under continuing victimisation?
Crikey, I'm not a censor or prude by nature or a disapprover of guys having fun. I can't even defend a stance of women being more honorably screwed as Wal-Mart employees than as porn stars. (And, guys, you are very vulnerable in regard to downloading kiddie porm, even if only once.)
So can we not consider trying to make a society where nobody gets screwed without REAL consent?
How about no more NEW porn victims?
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Posted by: Sojourner on Sep 26, 2007 4:03 PM
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Appealing to artistic categories to justify comic book story-telling borders on the nausiating. Is there no limit to the barrenness of pop cultrue, even when it's about barren (but powerful; which is all that counts, right?) women?
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Posted by: dancerkc on Sep 26, 2007 8:33 PM
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She tells him that she has a good idea of what she can do now (having experimented with her bionics, including combat martial arts) and then tells him that if she rolls with the program, it is on HER terms, not his. As she leaves, Ferrer's character turns to his psychologist character (very strong woman) and says to her that they have a good candidate for their program.
This is not one-pointed or one-sided (as claimed in this article), and the only way to make the point made above was to cherry-pick the landlord/ownership quote, because that was only one part of the back-and-forth between the characters. Sackhoff, for example, is (here) the first bionic woman who has gone rogue. She sets her own wild card. The supposedly all-controlling Ferrer character doesn't seem to have as much control as he thinks.
So, if you make a point please make one which is really there.
Further note: This show also borrows a lot of feeling from Blade Runner and the symbiants (listen to the background music) as well as a lot of actors from Battlestar Galactica (I am assuming because of the executive producer who also comes from BG).
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Posted by: Eat Politicians on Sep 26, 2007 8:59 PM
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What is with the junk feminism on Alternet lately? Jesus. It's been a string of these Andrea Dworkin wannabes followed by this nonsense.
Look. I'm sorry that Alicia Rebensdorf is jealous of robots. I'm jealous of male robots. That is not gender specific. Robots are simply better looking than us.
*sigh*
Look, feminism is on the cutting edge.
Naomi Zack - Brilliant up and coming philosopher.
Naomi Klein - Brilliant analysis of political science.
Amy Goodman - Best TV journalism available. Brilliant commentary.
Alicia Rebensdorf - is jealous of robots.
That pretty much sums it up. The question for me is why do I keep coming back and torturing myself by slogging through these terrible articles?
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Posted by: Blue Heron on Sep 26, 2007 9:27 PM
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Posted by: jugdish88 on Sep 26, 2007 11:25 PM
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Completely ripe for feminist analysis, especially since the entire body of work is shown.
The problem I have with the analysis of the Bionic Woman is that it is only 1/24 of a whole. Thematic analysis is impossible to do when only part of a whole is shown, at least in serial drama television. For example, Heroes was a show about internal and external change, destiny vs. choice, being "normal" vs. being yourself, etc.. If you analyzed the first episode, you would simply be left with a vague idea of where the show was going.
Another example would be Battlestar Galactica (which David Eick produces). In the miniseries and first season, you can start to sense difficult portrayals of our foreign policy that many Americans would feel uncomfortable dealing with. The question would have been, "will they go the full Monty"? Well, they did, by having an occupation of the "heroes" in a desolate land, mirroring our Iraqi quagmire.
What I am saying is, lets see where Eick is going to take us with the ideas of freedom and feminism before we analyze the show. I would love to see a new analysis at the end of the first season (as long as the show is, and probably will be, licked up). That would be "kick-ass".
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I saw this on YouTube:
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