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Right-Wingers Are on the Defensive About Talk Radio Dominance

By Joshua Holland, AlterNet. Posted June 29, 2007.


A new report by the Center for American Progress and the Free Press has the right up-in-arms. Its message: right-wingers' dominance of talkradio is a classic market failure.
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On its face, quantifying the conservative domination of talk-radio is about as valuable as studying the leftward lean in women's studies departments at American universities. The conventional wisdom is that during the 1980s, talk-radio tapped into a substantial group of angry, white and mostly male listeners who blamed their perceived loss of influence on what they believed were real powers in American society: feminists, gays, black kids applying for affirmative action programs and potty-mouthed Hollywood screenwriters. It was a niche market -- AM radio was a dying format waiting for an infusion of energy -- and the Limbaughs and Hannitys gave the people what they wanted.

But if that were all there was to the phenomenon, a new report by the Center for American Progress and the Free Press on right-wing talk's domination of the airwaves wouldn't be causing as much chagrin among conservative commentators as it has. The report, (PDF), "The Structural Imbalance of Political Talk Radio," is stirring up the right-wing squawkers because its analysis flies in the face of conventional wisdom; Right-wing talk doesn't dominate AM radio because of the magical hand of a functional free market, it dominates thanks to multiple market failures. Even worse, those failures represent a strong case for better regulation of what goes out on the public's airwaves.

The report contrasts the amount of right-wing talk -- nine out of every ten hours broadcast on talk-radio is exclusively conservative -- with a talk-radio audience that, according to Pew Research, identifies itself as follows: forty-three percent of regular talk radio listeners are conservative, while "23 percent identify as liberal and 30 percent as moderate." In other words, fewer than half of those listening to some of the most feverish voices on the right are themselves self-identified conservatives.

The report also shows that in markets where progressive and liberal talk has proven itself to be competitive, conservative programming still dominates the airwaves. The authors note: "[A]lthough there is a clear demand and proven success of progressive talk" in these markets, "station owners still elect to stack the airwaves with one-sided broadcasting." In radio, the "market" simply isn't meeting consumers' tastes.

That observation is what has so many on the right up in arms about the report (the Center for American Progress reports that they have never received such "vitriol" following the publication of previous studies). The report found evidence to support what critics of media concentration have long maintained: that for some media owners, advancing a series of political narratives can be just as much in their interest as a healthy bottom line ever was.

An analysis of all 10,506 licensed commercial radio stations found that stations "owned by women, minorities, or local owners are statistically less likely to air conservative hosts or shows." In contrast, "stations controlled by group owners--those with stations in multiple markets or more than three stations in a single market--were statistically more likely to air conservative talk." Markets that aired both conservative and progressive programming were "less concentrated than the markets that aired only one type of programming and were more likely to be the markets that had female- and minority-owned stations."


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BROADCAST JOURNALISM IS DEAD
Posted by: Tom Degan on Jun 29, 2007 1:19 AM   
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Listen closely....Can you hear it?....That faint rumbling in the distance is the sound of Edward R. Murrow and Eric Sevareid doing somersaults in their graves.

In 1981, when the Reagan administration gutted the FCC, one of the first casualties was broadcast news. Back in the day, when the people owned the airwaves, one of the prerequisites for owning a radio or television station was that an owner, by law, had to provide the community with news and information as a public service. If the news division operated at a loss (and a lot of them did) that was the price they had to pay. Keeping the public informed was the news department's sole reason for being. The most important thing for a functioning democracy is an informed and educated electorate. It was a pretty good system and - witha couple minor exceptions - it worked beautifully for almost forty years.

All of that is gone. Broadcast News today is a crucial profit center on most independently owned stations and national networks. The legendary producer, Fred Friendly, once made the observation that the job of a good journalist was not to give people the news they want to hear, but to give them the news they need to hear. Friendly never lived to see FOX News and that's probably just as well. One can only imagined how horrified he would have been by the round the clock coverage of the Paris Hilton affair that has been going on for the last month. It is a certainty that he would have been embarrassed for the industry that he and Murrow literally invented - watching news organizations blowing their budgets on helicopters trailing the motorcade of a woman going to jail for less than a month on a DWI violation - a woman void of substance who is famous for doing absolutely nothing.

No question about it: the American people are a people distracted. The main stream media (electronic and print), the so-called "fourth estate", has utterly failed in its obligation to keep the public informed. In the good old days, a vibrant and healthy press might very well have been able to expose this administration's lies regarding Iraq's mythical Weapons of Mass Destruction Program and at least half a million human beings would still be walking this earth. In the good old days, there was something that was known as the Fairness Doctrine, which guarnteed that both sides of any given issue would be given a fair hearing over the people's air. When Ronald Reagan did away with that rule, the rise of Right Wing dominated Hate Radio was the inevitable result. In the good old days, there was a limit as to how many broadcast stations an individual or organization could legally own. Today we are bombarded by a corporate media which is dedicated to keeping the American people stupid. They are succeeding.

Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
"The Rant" by Tom Degan

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» and the Game continues! Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: BROADCAST JOURNALISM IS DEAD Posted by: Badger1492
Murrow
Posted by: Tom Degan on Jun 29, 2007 2:34 AM   
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"This instrument [Televison] can teach, it can entertain, yes it can even inspire. But it can do so only to the extant that human beings are determined to use it towards those ends. Otherwise it's nothing more than lights and wires in a box".

Edward R. Murrow
October 28, 1958

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» RE: Murrow Posted by: Conservasaurus
» RE: Murrow Posted by: Tom Degan
» RE: Murrow Posted by: starvinmarvy
» RE: Murrow Posted by: Conservasaurus
Alternet goes Conservative?
Posted by: Conservasaurus on Jun 29, 2007 2:58 AM   
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So, if you believe conservative radio is more than a reaction to market forces and like the typical liberal view, government needs to get involved to ensure we hear whats "fair and balanced" , when will Alternet start writing dual view pieces???

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» Why not? Posted by: Joshua Holland
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So What's Up With Lou Dobbs and Fairness Doctrine?
Posted by: anambrose on Jun 29, 2007 3:55 AM   
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Watching C-Span I saw Lou Dobbs do one of those National Press Club Luncheon speeches. In his rambling preamble to his usual rant on illegal immigrants he spouted some oft quoted but wrong number claiming media is still liberal based on reporters voters registrations surveys?! ...70%?Democrat = Liberal? I was'nt sure why he was flogging a 50 year old dead horse until later. I got an email about the CAP study etc. I also saw some lead news on the same story. It was so biased to the right it needed a saw horse to stand up. The reporter and commenters both whined about Fairness Doctrine being renewed. You could tell from the context they got whining points from somewhere else because they did'nt know what it was or what it actually did or what they were talking about. They don't get that Reactionary Right Wing Hate Radio is Corporate Supply Side Propaganda badly and barely disguised as Free Speech. Nothing is free about it when it comes from the top of a monop.

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» Oh those liberal reporters! Posted by: hagwind
If left-wing talk radio had more listeners
Posted by: Illiteratilumen on Jun 29, 2007 4:42 AM   
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it would make more money and there would be more stations besides the very limited Air America market and unsyndicated local programs.

It seems that the article is calling for regulations governing media dominance - a form of trust-busting, if you will. I can live with that. I don't think it will have much of an effect on the preeminence of right-wingers such as Rush, Hannity and Savage. Those guys make a lot of money through advertisements because a lot of people, for good or bad, want to hear what they have to say. If you break-up control of the media I think the best you could hope for is more diversity in right-wing talk radio along with a terrible backlash from people who see it as an infrigement upon the first amendment.

A left-leaning radio program will not survive in most markets without direct government subsidies because the market just isn't there or hasn't been developed effectively. Liberals should stop whining about it and develop a better business model and more quality programming that appeals to listeners if they want to break the right's stranglehold on talk radio. Lets take Ring of Fire, for example. Its a perfect example of a show with good content but Bobby Kennedy, for all of his virtues, simply isn't talk-radio material. Rush and Hannity may be a bunch of dicks but they have the art of presenting a show that captures listeners down to a science.

This all seems pretty obvious to me. Breaking up media conglomerates is one thing. Limiting free speech and suppressing a healthy market (in economic terms, anyway) is a whole separate story. Who here REALLY thinks its a good idea for the government to control radio content?

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» Where are all the liberals! Posted by: Conservasaurus
» You are so wrong-again! Posted by: Ellie1
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» Two key "free market" principles Posted by: eddie torres
» Where do you get that idea? Posted by: olderworker
I enjoy listening to both sides of the issues and.....
Posted by: Poe on Jun 29, 2007 5:49 AM   
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.....I have no problem finding both sides of the issues on talk radio. I like Rush Limbaugh and I enjoy listening to Al Franken or Ed Shultz.
Although I think they do lean left, I really find NPR to be a wonderful station with great programming...soothing.....not "in your face" kind of stuff. A change from both progressive/liberal and conservative stations. I think Tom Ashbrook is outstanding.

I know it's not radio, but If you want to have a discussion about one outlet that truly is "fair and balanced"........nothing beats C-Span 1 and 2. Nothing!

There's plenty of cake for all of us, and depending on the media outlet, some will get a bigger piece, but nobody will be denied a slice.


There......that's my opinion.....and as a conservative......I thank Alternet for letting me voice that opinion.


Poe

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Paul Bigioni
Posted by: Bigioni on Jun 29, 2007 6:15 AM   
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Concentrated markets (in this case, the media) yield none of the benefits of truly "free" markets. What is worse (and what no one seems to notice) is that concentrated markets also stifle political freedom. Josh Holland's article is a perfect example of this. The political threat of market concentration was widely recognized by Americans and by the courts in the 1940's, but not today. If only American anti-trust laws were meaningfully enforced, we wouldn't be in this pathetic situation where 5 companies control nearly 100% of what we read, watch and listen to.

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Has anyone outside of Australians heard of John Laws
Posted by: Nedtheredhead on Jun 29, 2007 6:25 AM   
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At the end of this year, around November, Australias longest running talk back host will end his daily AM radio show. He started broadcasting back in the early 1950's as just another disc jockey, but when delayed radio technology was introduced allowing for on air talk back, here in the 60's, he found his niche. Ultra conservative, racist, sexist, Royalist, Pro Tory England and pro Republican America, he soon developed a powerful voice across Sydney. It wasn't long before he ran his morning show across all of NSW and then all Australia. In the late 70's he tried his hand at the US, but returned to Aussie where he stayed put till the introduction of the computer. He was one of the first to run an on line internet radio network. The interesting thing to note is that what many ultra right broadcasters are now doing in the US, and have been doing since the eithties, is virtually a copy of what John Laws started back in the 60's. And guess who his biggest supporter was, and is? Rupert Murdock.
So Alternet, why not do a search on the Australian connection, just to see how much our ultra right contacts are influencing your ultra right mouth pieces. I think you may be unpleasantly surprised.

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R.V.
Posted by: RDVSR on Jun 29, 2007 6:49 AM   
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People listen to what they like. People don't like the nasty attitude that most "left wing" talk hosts have.
The market is willing to pay Rush Limbaugh because he draws an audience. They would be willing to pay a left winger, IF they could draw an audience.
Public Radio is far to the left, and is supported by taxpayer money. Perhaps the right should be pushing for right wing Public Rado supported by taxpayer funds.

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Talk Radio
Posted by: stormchilde1975 on Jun 29, 2007 6:55 AM   
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Missing from this analysis is an acknowledgment of the fact that talk radio is not really political discourse, but politically themed entertainment (very) thinly disguised as discourse. A format like talk radio, composed mainly of polemics and brainless commentary on polemics, does not perform the function of informing the electorate, so much as polarizing it - an effect deeply detrimental to the function of democracy.

Perhaps (though this may be overly optimistic) the reason liberal talk radio has so much trouble finding an audience is that progressives, being a bit more sophisticated in their thinking, recognize it for the intellectual junk food that it is and consume it only in small doses, as compared to the hordes of slavish, zombie-like listeners commanded by the likes of Limbaugh.

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donald laface
Posted by: donl51 on Jun 29, 2007 8:05 AM   
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when i want something closer to truth,i l look for a talk radio station other than Hannity,or O'Riley or Limbaugh or so many others depending on where i am as i travel cross country,concervative[which is really a wrong term ] talk stations are more arguementive because people like myself stupidly call them on something said,but its fun,they're usually wrong but they get louder and at times angry that you're so stupid,sorta like the Britts spoke to foreigners way back when,''speak louder they''ll understand''like in India!..Liberal leaning stations are ok ,if closer to the truth is what you want ,just not as much fun or frustration...

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Baaaa go the conservative sheep and the talk show hosts laugh
Posted by: scootenat65 on Jun 29, 2007 8:10 AM   
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The right wing whackos that dominate radio could have been dismissed for the bottom feeders they are when Gush Limppaw and his ilk fanned the flames of Tim McVey's delusion resulting in the Oklahoma City bombing. They collectively held their breath immediately after the bombing but since there was on consequence they have gone merrily on telling their half truths and lies to the conservitive sheep and anyone else who will listen and we are the worst off for it.

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The real reason the right wing dominates talk radio
Posted by: ateo on Jun 29, 2007 8:56 AM   
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People normally listen to talk radio in their cars on their way to work. Left wingers tend to be welfare addicted slum dwellers that may not own a car and certainly don't have a job they commute to. Or they are idealistic neo-hippy college students trying to hide from reality in academia for as long as possible (some posters on this board fit that description).

See, that's the real issue here, market segment. People who commute to jobs from the suburbs tend to make decent money. People who make decent money don't like paying all that taxes so illegal immigrants can attend school or get their teeth cleaned.

If you ever grow up, graduate from college, and get a real job you too will listen to talk radio - and it won't be Al Gore you're listening to.

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» What happened to limosine liberals? Posted by: ReallyBearish
» Hey ditto head Posted by: gregii
» RE: Your hogwash doesn't add up Posted by: lessbread
Rightwing Talk Radio: The Enemy Within
Posted by: HughScott on Jun 29, 2007 9:04 AM   
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I didn’t realize how subversive was rightwing talk radio until last January, when I applied for membership in the Veterans of Foreign Wars. Curious about its political orientation, if any, I visited the VFW’s national website.

Alas, to my dismay as a freedom-loving American and rabid necon-hater, I learned that the 2.5-million veterans organization sponsored the rightwing talk radio show, "National Defense," hosted by John Newbury.

Newbury's Internet home page appeared on the website for "Townhall Talk Radio," an outlet for five rightwing commentators: William Bennett (a PNAC founder), Mike Ghallager, Hugh Hewitt, Michael Medved and Dennis Praeger. There are no moderate or liberal voices on Townhall Radio.

Additionally, Newbury's home page provided links to other rightwing pundits, such as Donald Lambro, who, on January 29, 2007, accused Democrats in Congress of aiding America's enemies.

Wrote Lambro, "The battle lines were carved into the Senate floor over a Democratic resolution condemning President Bush's war plans to send more troops to Iraq. But it was hard to ignore the inconvenient truth, that this ill-timed measure will aid the terrorists and depress the morale of our soldiers who are fighting to defeat them."

To produce income through his Townhall website, John Newbury sold "conservative" T-shirts (his term) which he described as the "largest selection of liberal-baiting merchandise on the Net."

In January, he also touted two favorable books about 2008 GOP presidential candidates John McCain and Mitt Romney. There were no pro-Democrat publications or other such products advertised on Newbury's home page.

By sponsoring John Newbury and no on else on talk radio, the VFW showed itself to be a biased, rightwing organization. Consequently and sadly, I withdrew my membership application.

Hugh E. Scott, Vietnam veteran and the editor of FreedomCentralUSA.com, a nonprofit investigative website dedicated to the destruction of neoconservatism using truth and the Internet as WMDs.

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It won't end until they kill the radio!
Posted by: kewpie on Jun 29, 2007 9:17 AM   
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Of course the right wing radio show commentators are paranoid that the truth will get out that they really rule the air waves! They won't stop until they own all the stations and can further continue their attempts at brainwashing and faulty thinking/logic. Lord have mercy!

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Saturation campaign
Posted by: willymack on Jun 29, 2007 9:22 AM   
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I read this article with the usual and varied opinion pieces following it. What I DIDN'T see is the METHOD behind the neothug campaign to saturate our (AM) airwaves with their propoganda. The GEICO caveman commercial, repeated ad nauseum ia a case in point. It matters not one bit whether money is made or lost on these broadcasts; the point here is to ram as many falsehoods, by as many windbags, down the throats of those prone to react EMOTIONALLY, rather than analytically. We've been saturated by bushie propoganda from day one, and in ALL the media outlets. I think it's time for more of us take a long, hard look at this situation and ask ourselves: "Is there a REASON for all this noise, and if so, WHAT is it? Remember a guy named Goebels? If not, Google the name, then look at our present situation. Think about the REAL reason behind 9/11, the REAL reason for our presence in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the REAL reason Osama bin Laden is still on the loose-that is, if he's still alive. Finally, does anyone capable of thought believe that the fact we have a demented halfwit for a "president" is some kind of coincidence?

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The best news is the fake news!
Posted by: kewpie on Jun 29, 2007 9:26 AM   
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I love watching "The Daily Show" and "The Colbert Report" for their commentary on politics and the way it is portrayed on Cable and Network news. What is odd is that "The Daily Show" and "The Colbert Report" give better news than the actual news networks. I love how these fake news shows show how Lou Dobbs, CNN and Fox News how absurd they all have become.

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keep in mind what happened in the 30s
Posted by: ReallyBearish on Jun 29, 2007 9:31 AM   
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Most newspapers in the 1930s were opponents of the New Deal and FDR. Most failed to even discuss the Depression in the early 30s. Most failed to report foreign news regarding Hitler. Most failed to report on lynchings in the South. Made about as much difference as a fart in a hurricane. FDR was reelected until he died.

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Maybe smart, progressive people don't like rant radio
Posted by: NorskyBoy on Jun 29, 2007 9:46 AM   
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Just a thought. Personally, I can't stand most of the programming on Air America any more than I can listen to conservative talk shows because they both seem to feature dumb rants instead of rational and probing insights into the details of issues of concern. I appreciate Thom Hartmann for taking such an approach, and Democracy Now is a rare gem, but otherwise, I have no use for most partisan radio programming, right or left.

That said, I am in favor of breaking up the overdone media consolidation that is choking off competition and new angles of reporting. And, I am in favor of restoring the fairness doctrine. Both served us well in the past and they should do so again.

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This is a problem...
Posted by: fearless flower on Jun 29, 2007 10:13 AM   
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I came across some very disturbing statistics on mercola.com, a website I trust for backing itself with research:

"One third of high school graduates never read another book for the rest of their lives.

"80 percent of American families did not buy or read a book last year.

"70 percent of U.S. adults have not been in a bookstore in the last year.

"Meanwhile, Americans spend an average of four hours in front of the TV each day AND three hours listening to the radio..."

These functionally illiterate people are the ones who elect our presidents and lawmakers!!! And then don't know enough to challenge the corruption they commit.

I saw in my own children how reading can foster skill in language and critical thinking. Kids who don't read, can't think! One of the best things a parent can do for their children is to limit or even abolish cable TV in their home. The payoff is huge and the only drawbacks really are that you have to rent more stuff to watch and put up with some complaining from the little people.

Parents, quit worrying about what college your kids will go to and start worrying about what they are watching and listening to on a daily basis.

Those of us who have lived more than a generation know the truth that schools, including colleges and universities are becoming dumbed down as well to accommodate the increasingly reading challenged young people coming in to them.

Reading is still the best thing for your mind and your life.

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Spin warning... Liberal Nazis ahead...
Posted by: eddie torres on Jun 29, 2007 10:43 AM   
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In the spirit of the Fairness Doctrine, let's check the Conservapedia entry for "Fairness Doctrine"...

What a surprise! The Conservapedia entry for "Fairness Doctrine" has been recently modified! (June 27, 2007)

It now includes this line: "Ronald Reagan tore down this wall (the Fairness Doctrine) in 1987... and Rush Limbaugh was the first man to proclaim himself liberated from the East Germany of liberal media domination."

And the reference is an article entitled "The Nazification of the American Left" by Paul Hollrah... from June 26, 2007.

In comparing US liberals to German Nazis, here's a few pretzels from the Hollrah piece:

- "Given their desire to censor, even to prohibit, conservative speech, it is clear that American liberals are much more in tune with Goebbels than with our cherished First Amendment rights."

- "Imagine what Goebbels could have accomplished if... he’d had access to dozens of influential newspapers, such as The New York Times, the Washington Post, and the Los Angeles Times… all of which obediently parroted the party line."

- "...one thing is certain: liberals and Democrats will not call for 'fairness' or 'equal time' from the major networks or from print media… where liberal ideology reigns supreme. They will call only for 'fairness' and 'equal time' in talk radio, where conservatives have the upper hand."

I'm guessing Paul Hollrah works somewhere in the Fox or ClearChannel empires, and the 'research' staff of minor operatives like Malkin and Savage are frequent visitors to Conservapedia.

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Conservatism is a fraud
Posted by: Perry Logan on Jun 29, 2007 11:50 AM   
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The political Right in America is fraudulent down to its stem cells.

Its fundamental principles are bolstered by junk science from the right-wing think tanks, who are paid to make crackpot ideas sound good and failed policies sound successful.

Its beliefs are massaged by a media which tells the news the way the Righites wan to hear it, no matter what the facts. (Small wonder their ratings ratings are plummeting.)

The Right's dominance of radio is now revealed as equally bogus.

What a relief, to find out we're not really a nation of degenerates!

You should also know that all those "best selling" winger books are not best-sellers at all. Right-wing organizations buy whole pallets of Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaughs books--to create the illusion America is really reading this crap.

Like I say--it's all a fraud. And it makes the winguts flip to hear this coming out.

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Then why did MSNBC axe Phil Donahue?
Posted by: IntnsRed on Jun 29, 2007 11:52 AM   
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People listen to what they like.

Poppycock; that's mythology. People listen to the limited "politically correct" choices that they have. And in the US, our range of "acceptable" political debate is much smaller than other advanced, industrial democracies.

One can cite many instances of the rightward bias and tilt of the media. One case in point:

Before Bush started the Iraq war the Phil Donahue show was the most popular show on MSNBC.

Standard capitalist propaganda states that show would be a big money maker. But MSNBC abruptly cancelled the show.

Why? When Donahue asked, he was told that it was that the MSNBC management said they feared that Donahue's show would evolve into some sort of magnet for the anti-war crowd.

That business decision had no relationship to what viewers wanted (after all, it was the most popular show on MSNBC at the time). Instead, the decision to axe Donahue was a strictly political decision.

MSNBC was merely rewarding the right-wing administration that was dismantling corporate mass media and anti-trust regulations.

Want dozens of other examples? FAIR and other groups have many examples...

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Just think Chomsky
Posted by: saml on Jun 29, 2007 11:52 AM   
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First off, let's see how would Chomsky argue this - by contrast. Imagine scenario when someone did research and found out that there are more liberal sites on the internet then conservative. And conservative would start lobbying Washington to introduce a regulation that would make it harder for Liberal site to open up versus conservative. Would you support that.

Secondly, I am amazed as most reasonable people here (which are usually in minority) how easily people fall into dichotomy when ideology trumps reason. I.e. liberals who inherently don't trust government (rightly sow because of potential abuse), when it comes to trumpeting free speech they don't like - they have no reservation on jumping on clearly an anti free speech band wagon.

Remember: free speech guaranties NON INTERFERANCE from government, it DOES NOT GUARANTEE an audience!

Thirdly, since liberals always are first to blame markets for all ills (existent and non existent) they don’t think twice when some one purports to find yet another failure of the market. When the issue has been non controversial for years already and it is this: The majority of radio listeners (by amount of hours listened) are blue collar workers (like truckers and constructions workers) - who listen to it almost 12hours a day. The white collar workers (more liberal leaning) only listen to it 1-3 hours a day on their way to work. That is why even in liberal towns conservative radio gets more listeners and more money from advertisers - plain and simple.

… now I’ll just sit back and watch the accusations of blind conservativism, bigotry and idiocy roll in.

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Liberals know how to READ
Posted by: Crazy H on Jun 29, 2007 2:01 PM   
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Study after study has shown that conservatives break down into four groups. Stupid people, Ignorant People, Rich People, and Religious People.

Smart, educated people tend to read more than to listen; to focus on facts rather than opinions; and to make up their own minds rather than to allow the likes of Rush Limpbone tell them what to think.

In short, conservatives form a much better audience for such things than do liberals. A conservative will listen for hours to Rich Limpbone repeat the same rant over and over - those of us are capable of learning without the mindless repetition have better things to do with our time.

In short - conservatives are a much better audience for that particular format.

"Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events,
small minds discuss people." Vice Adm. H.G. Rickover.

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Hold hearings NOW on the right's takeover of AM dial
Posted by: gregrocker on Jun 29, 2007 3:48 PM   
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The Dems are cutting their own throats by not using the most effective pushback they have at their disposal to force some balance back onto the AM dial: high profile Congressional hearings in which more than half of Americans who don't listen will be educated to exactly how their politics became so utterly false and nasty.

For a dozen years of the 15 years during which talk radio took power, leading to their current wrecking of the Federal government, the prestigious Annenberg School for Communication at Penn, funded by the conservo Readers Digest fortune, has studied exactly what was wrought. They found that between 20-50 million listeners are filled with such utter "false certainty" on most every issue, swinging the past 5 of 6 elections, that truth has been almost entirely eradicated in political debate.

With Kathleen Hall Jameson of Annenberg as star witness, and a Hannity or Limbaugh put under oath and dared to repeat some of their most audacious (Iraq) lies, the public will soon realize that the political system has been disabled by rightist dirty tricksters who have literally stolen public opinion with unchallenged lies, 24/7 for 15 years in a redneck coup.

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so joshua
Posted by: apophenia_monkey on Jun 29, 2007 7:22 PM   
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the concept is, if you don't like the message, bring in the heavy hand of gov't to regulate it to your tastes?

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SOMEBODY MENTIONED RONALD REAGEN
Posted by: SALLY EVANS on Jun 29, 2007 8:53 PM   
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When Ronald Reagan went to visit Pope John Paul II in Poland, he was Mr. LIBERAL supporting workers' rights and UNIONS but when he was here in the states, he was BUSTIN' UNIONS ALL OVER THE U.S. SALARIES AND BENEFITS WERE CUT EVEN WHILE HE WAS SHUTTING DOWN MENTAL INSTITUTIONS AND DIDN'T CARE A TINKER'S DAMN ABOUT THE POOR. HARRY TRUMAN MUST HAVE BEEN ROLLING IN HIS GRAVE. REAGEN CLAIMED TO HAVE BECOME A CONSERVAATIVE WHEN IT WAS NOTHING MORE THAN EVIL, SELFISH BEHAVIOR""" I'VE GOT MINE AND TO HELL WITH YOU."""

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Democrats = destruction of 1st amendment rights.
Posted by: Jak_dah_rippah on Jun 29, 2007 9:17 PM   
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pure and simple.

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