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"WomenTK" is actually a wildly optimistic name for a site like Konigsberg's. In publishing lingo, "TK" means "to come," which indicates that she expects things to change. It's hard to see how that's going to happen, though, because thus far all the talk about Konigsberg's findings has consisted of journalists rehashing the industry's classic response: a general agreement that the situation is "unfortunate" and that "something should be done." Even female journalists have been reluctant to drop the double speak and propose concrete solutions.
Conventional wisdom among many women journalists (and their male allies) is that change will come when more women rise to positions of editorial power -- which just hasn't happened. Certainly magazines should take steps to elevate competent women not just to the editor-in-chief level, but to all gatekeeper editorial positions. But I don't think the mere presence of female editors can remedy the byline gender gap. Several national and progressive magazines have female editors-in-chief, but you wouldn't know it by looking at each table of contents. There are countless days when all of the progressive news websites feature only one or two stories by women. I know these are places where the editors would agree that the paucity of female bylines is a problem.
As one female editor at a national magazine said to me recently, "We always talk about it. I don't know why we're not able to follow through with it." Clearly, it's not enough to be aware of and concerned about the issue. It's time to hold editors -- yes, even female editors -- accountable for the byline gap. Things will never change unless magazines make a specific commitment to raising the number of women who appear in their pages.
AlterNet has a commitment to placing at least two women's bylines on the front page every day. Because we have a tiny staff, we reprint much of our content from other progressive media. Which means that, in order to publish a sufficient number of women, we are in many ways reliant on other news outlets to do the same. It's disheartening how hard it is to find women's bylines on a daily basis -- even though we're looking all over for them. It's an ongoing struggle.
That's why I've come to believe that a target percentage for women's bylines should be set in the editorial policies of each publication, at least in the short term. I can honestly say that if it were not AlterNet's policy to publish multiple women writers every single day, it would never happen. No matter how committed to gender parity we say we are, the demands of daily news always seem to overshadow the abstract desire to publish more women.
"But," I've heard editors say, "we don't get as many pitches from women. And the ones we do get are often of lower quality than those that come from men. Should we compromise our standards just to meet a quota?"
Seems like a cop-out to me. I've made a point of reaching out to women writers, and can say that a least half of the pitches and submissions I now receive are from women. And they're good quality. If editors know they have to publish a certain number of women, they'll be more likely to reach out to them. And their submissions will follow.
Then there's the matter of getting editors to consider pitches from women. I think many editors are less likely to pay attention to women's submissions, but not because they think women produce inferior work. It’s more due to the fact that they get dozens of pitches a day, and knowing a writer's name often means the difference between reading an email and clicking "delete." So it stands to reason that if the writers an editor already knows (either personally or by reputation) are predominantly male, those are the emails that will get opened and considered. Pieces from women they don't know will languish in an inbox until the submission is stale and no amount of editing can save it.
It's also probably true that women writers are less likely than men to follow up aggressively on pitches, and if they do, they're more likely to be viewed as annoying or nagging rather than confident and persistent.
When it comes time to make story assignments, when are editors (myself included) most likely to think about assigning to a woman? When the subject matter is "hearth and home," of course. Mother Jones crunched the numbers and found that about a third of stories with women’s bylines were articles on gender and family, or were fiction or memoirs. Konigsberg writes on her website,
As a former editor at the New Yorker wrote me in an email, “... I’ve been struck by a pattern, at the Atlantic in particular, where women only seem to write about marriage, motherhood and nannies, obsessively so. If you count the number of women’s bylines there that weren’t about hearth and home, the number would approach zero.â€That’s something I struggle with as an editor, and as a writer whose expertise is in reproductive rights and other feminist issues. Am I fueling this problem by pitching stories about breast cancer and emergency contraception? Would it be better for my career -- and for women writers as a group -- if I chose instead to develop an expertise in economics or foreign policy or law? But then I remember that a number of women writers do have expertise in these areas. Imagine the change that would be possible if editors could get into the habit of considering women journalists for a variety of topics.
Another way to create change is to increase the number of women on each magazine's list of correspondents and contributing writer/editors. This is the stable of elite journalists that editors to go repeatedly to make story assignments. So if women were well-represented in this section of the masthead, the number of female bylines would surely increase. As things stand, at most publications the ratio of male-to-female contributing writers looks even worse than the byline ratio, which is saying something:
The American Prospect: 21:12It's worth noting that many magazines bestow the "contributing writer/editor" title on writers they want to honor, not necessarily those whose stories they publish frequently. Regardless, the numbers are telling. Especially because outlets with women at the helm -- the Nation and Salon, for example -- have ratios that are just as bad or worse than publications with male editors-in-chief.
The Atlantic: 27:6
Harper's: 30:2 (masthead not online)
In These Times: 6:6
Mother Jones: 10:5
The New Yorker: 44:18
The Nation: 26:4
The New Republic: 12:2
Salon: 14:7
Slate: 20:6
Washington Monthly: 30:5
I certainly don’t think I have all the answers. And I understand that these sorts of changes are easier to make at smaller outlets like AlterNet than at more prestigious national publications. But if women actually are "TK" -- rather than permanently absent from national political magazines -- it's time for editors to step up and make it a written policy to assign a percentage of stories to female writers. Until there's a concrete commitment, nothing's going to change.
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Posted by: Rshaw on Oct 10, 2006 2:05 AM
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For exampele:
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Posted by: Caro on Oct 10, 2006 3:33 AM
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Posted by: kepstein7777 on Oct 10, 2006 4:11 AM
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Maybe it's having a more open format, and less control by stuffy, old-style left-wing cliques.
Maybe the more females rule is helping with that. If not, it doesn't seem to be hurting.
I even like a male-bashing article now and then, because we get some interesting debates.
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Posted by: mah_favorite_flavor_cherry_red on Oct 10, 2006 5:14 AM
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Rich americans and corporations thank you! And I am sure they will renew the grant that funds Alternet.....
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Posted by: wawa on Oct 10, 2006 6:17 AM
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You are looking inside the box for the change to come,
And you overlook the change that has already happened on the www
Independent, passionate investigative, UNCENSORED journalism is being published on the www by women who do NOT receive assignments from men-we follow our heart which seeks the TRUTH.
This woman has followed her heart seeking and reporting the truth about life in the Occupied Palestinian Territories three times and I am returning for a 4th Nov. '06.
I am grateful to Alternet for the opportunity to be able to invite their WIDE AWAKE readers to
GO DEEP and TO COME along.
eileen fleming, satirist, activist, author, reporter, editor WAWA BLOG
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Posted by: JoeBageant on Oct 10, 2006 8:14 AM
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Yep. That is true. I work in it every day, both as a magazine editor and as a writer. But the opposite is also true. An elite tier of national level editors select the writers most likely to deliver the "product" as they define it. And they select writers who most resemble their class sensibilities and background.
Unfortunately, over the 30-some years I have been watching and participating in this business, I find that the elites are becoming more elite, both in economic background and current economic status...especially when it comes to the big corporate owned magazines, such as Time, Discover, etc.
But the so-called lefty press is by no means immune. Check out the backgrounds of every damned editor from Utne Reader to MJ to Harpers. Sure, there are the tokens on the staff. Sometimes. But the editors are all from middle class backgrounds, and despite all the lefty trappings, ego-tourist trips to Peru, their "green," sentiments, they live and operate comfortably in the world like middle class Americans. In fact, buying magazines is pretty much a a middle class pursuit.
The end result is that magazine editors in America can do no better than create comfort food for their own kind and they usually hire these white males or the kind of women they find socially attractive, to do the cooking. It's a frat boy mentality as bad as George Bush's, and amazingly enough, when women reach the higher levels, they seem to have absorbed the same frat boy mentality, when it comes to hiring writers. Oh, there are meetings and much talk of the "big idea," and "what readers want," but mostly it is a communications club of alikes, who believe they are very special people in very special careers. Nobody admits they just love it when most "ordinary people," upon being introduced, say: "Oh! You are a magazine editor! That must be wonderful!"
The fact is that magazines are dead in this country as a source of real ideas for change (if they ever were a source.) They are first and foremost a business. They must turn a profit or they are not allowed to exist in our system. That filter alone guarantees the safety of the capitalist system from any real assault from the newstand. It also guarantees that a guy like, say, Thoreau, could never get published today.
And here's the weird part. Magazines are SOLEY created to absorb advertising dollars. The content is moreover the excuse proffered the consumer for purchasing it...and most magazine purchases are what is called an "identity purchase." For example, nobody on this board buys Guns and Ammo Magazine.
Here's the weirdest part of all: the advertising in magazines is free to the advertiser. The magazine reader pays for the cost of the advertising in the product purchase, then the advertiser also writes off the cost of advertising as an expense. So advertising is not really about causing you to buy a product, though that may well happen as an added benefit, and there is the pretense by agencies that it is important.
What I am saying is that serious writers with ideas may be deluding themselves by thinking that magazine exposure changes anything (other than thier checking accounts, of course, which is always nice.) .
Meanwhile, we all sit here in cyberspace fretting over gender politics regarding magazines...as if a genuine viral concept for change could ever emerge from one in America. For that, you gotta go to Oaxaca. Or Venezuela. Ever see what they are publishing down there? It ain't Mother Jones, Baby.
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Posted by: thoughtcriminal on Oct 10, 2006 9:16 AM
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This article reads like another attempt at this general tactic. As we've seen the 'woman/man' issue falls flat on it's face - look at Ann Colter, Condi Rice, and Judith Miller - vs. real American reporters like Amy Goodman and Dana Priest. I don't care about what the writer looks like - I care about their integrity and their attention to detail!
For details on the 'divide and conquer tactic, see COINTELPRO document copies from the FBI, 1968-1972
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"Our Nation is undergoing an era of disruption and violence caused to a large extent by various individuals generally connected with the New Left.... The New Left has on many occasions viciously and scurrilously attacked the Director and the Bureau in an attempt to hamper our investigation of it and to drive us off the college campuses. With this in mind, it is our recommendation that a new Counterintelligence Program be designed to neutralize the New Left and the Key Activists. The Key Activists are those individuals who are the moving forces behind the New Left and on whom we have intensified our investigations. C.D. Brennan to W.C. Sullivan, May 9, 1968"
"The replies to the Bureau's request have been analyzed and it is felt that the following suggestions can for counterintelligence action can be utilized by all offices.
- Preparation of a leaflet designed to counteract the impression that Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) and other minority groups speak for the majority of students at universities. The leaflet should contain photographs of New Left leadership at the respective university. Naturally, the most obnoxious pictures should be used.
- The instigating of or the taking advantage of personal conflicts or animosities existing between New Left leaders.
- The creating of impressions that certain New Left leaders are informants for the Bureau or other law enforcement agencies.
- Since the use of marijuana and other narcotics is widespread among members of the New Left, you should be alert to opportunities to have them arrested by local authorities on drug charges.
- The drawing up of anonymous letters regarding individuals active in the New Left. These letters should set out their activities and should be sent to their parents, neighbors and the parents' employers.
- Whenever New Left groups engage in disruptive activities on college campuses, cooperative press contacts should be encouraged to emphasize that the disruptive elements constitute a minority of the students and do not represent the conviction of the majority. The press should demand an immediate referendum on the issue in question.
- There is a definite hostility among SDS and other New Left groups toward the Socialist Workers Party (SWP), the Young Socialist Alliance (YSA), and the Progressive Labor Party (PLP). This hostility should be exploited wherever possible.
- Consider the use of cartoons, photographs, and anonymous letters which will have the effect of riduculing the New Left. Ridicule is one of the most potent weapons which we can use against it.
- Be alert for opportunities to confuse and disrupt New Left activities by misinformation. For example, when events are planned, notification that the event has been cancelled or postponed could be sent to various individuals. Director to All Field Offices, July 5, 1968 "
Would the editor who chose this piece mind explaining why they did so?
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Posted by: PatArnow on Oct 10, 2006 9:17 AM
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A couple of years ago, I did a count of New York Times bylines and found similar inequities. The numbers at the NYT are no better today. (Extra! published the article, and it is reprinted at arnow.org/clipextra.html).
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Posted by: fork on Oct 10, 2006 10:12 AM
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How odd, that at the same time that boys' lower achievement level in literacy is trotted out as evidence that boys are being ignored in education, we find out from editors that their writing is superior. Which is it? Are females performing better in school only to magically lose those skills once they graduate? Has there been some massive affirmative action program for males? Or is the "problem" in boys' education a lie?
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Posted by: Celina on Oct 10, 2006 12:50 PM
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Posted by: MartianBachelor on Oct 10, 2006 1:15 PM
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Could we say it's really all about commitment-phobia then?
Yup, the more things don't change, the more they stay the same.
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» well, alternet and the other liberal nonprofits are funded by the wealthy elite
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Posted by: H_H on Oct 10, 2006 2:30 PM
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In other words, a publication's freedom of speech must take a back seat to ensuring that its contributing authors be published on the basis of their gender.
Great idea! While we're at it let's make quotas for women to work down in the coal pits, too.
Oh wait. We don't want equality for women in the dirty jobs where they might get injured for low pay. No no, just the cushy, air-conditioned, glamor jobs where they don't have to sweat.
I think I see how this works.
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Posted by: Burton on Oct 10, 2006 3:32 PM
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Better yet, why don't they start their own magazines and hire an equal number of female writers? I assume that you will have diversity in your female writers: conservative women, fundamentalist christian women, corporate women, etc., will all be represented?
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Posted by: mwildfire on Oct 10, 2006 7:03 PM
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the suggestion that quotas be used to equalize male and female writing in magazines is anti-freedom, and would be anti-quality because--OK nobody says this in so many words, but-- what it comes down to is that women just don't cut it. Right? They aren't as smart. They're fine if the subject is relationships or babies or cooking or sex, but when it comes to say, international affairs, few women have what it takes to write a really good piece.
Is that about it? Ya think?
Here's my explanation: the male ego, versus the female one. I've sent a few pieces out to Commondreams and Alternet and others, but I gave up quickly. Decided that after all, I don't have a degree in political science, what do I know? I don't have connections and impressive credentials. I'd better just get a job, because I have to earn a living. But a male, like me in every other way, would be less likely to think like that. No--he'd KNOW he was brilliant and deserved to be published, and he'd keep sending out his pieces, and when they got rejected he'd shake his head at the idiocy of the publishers. And send them elsewhere. Thus he'd have better odds of eventually making some good connections.
I'm not saying this is the whole explanation, just that it's a significant part of it.
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Posted by: faultroy on Oct 11, 2006 3:55 PM
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The reality is that the women's movement has broken down into the banal insipid and non-consequential. The movement has become a caricature of itself. It has become a very bad Saturday Night Live skit.
Almost everyone in the news/writing industry is more concerned about the ability to communicate and to disseminate ideas than they are about who's byline is on an article.
I've read wonderful pieces from both males and females.
Neither one has the inside track on quality.
That Alternet should stoop to this low level and have one of their own byline such drivel is in itself an admission that we are really not yet ready for meaningful change in this country and we can look for more Republican political domination.
Any average American--regardless of gender--will be intrinsically insulted by such blatant bias and should agree that while Rebublican rule is stifling, mind numbing and deleterious to the best interests of the country, it is far better than the myopia and constant feckless gender bean counting irrational hysteria of liberal feminists and their political cronies.
When Ann finally grows out of her training bra, perhaps she will be able to take her righful place with real journalists by writing capivating stories that inspire, motivate and enlighten--regardless of gender.
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Posted by: mviscid on Oct 12, 2006 11:49 AM
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A certain resistance to gender byline quotas reminds me of white people offended by affirmative action: you think just because the possibility of gender freedom now exists that there's no legacy of after-effects still plaguing us from those times when we weren't free. The attitude that "men are more qualified, feminists complain more" is a perfect example of this. A 100 years of legal freedoms and maybe 50 years of social freedoms is flyshit compared with the THOUSANDS of years when women were treated as property.
Feminism is still young in our culture. Of course it will be full of issues and problems and contradictions. It's in the awkward stage! And like any adolescent, it won't florish and mature unless it's treated with consideration, respect and understanding.
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