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Stossel's Sins of Omission
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In truth, there are some things in "Myths" that the 20/20 anchorman addresses rather honestly -- usually the topics tossed in to bolster his libertarian pretensions. Stossel's opening salvo on debunking "pseudo-experts," for instance, takes to task the experts who claim they can cure homosexuality, later noting that "if a man wants to have sex with another man, that should be his choice." Good.
Yet there are also many not-so-good things about the book.
Stossel breaks down "Myths" into 12 chapters on subjects ranging from "Clueless Media" to "The Pursuit of Happiness," but his targets are less varied. Again and again, he goes after the press, government and "experts," whether they be litigators or environmental scientists, harboring a special antipathy for anyone he perceives as interfering with the market. In the end, Stossel reveals himself not to be a libertarian so much as the preeminent champion, defender and protector of capitalism. If he doesn't get exercised about homosexuality, it's probably because he sees no market value for homophobia.
Of course, a man who's made his career on being a "consumer advocate" finds himself in a bit of a conundrum as he preaches the infallibility of capitalism, as the latter requires a nearly unyielding defense of corporations. To reconcile the two, Stossel apparently trusts his audience to be wholly daft or to be such plodding readers that by the time they reach page 161:
MYTH: Businesses rip us off.
TRUTH: Most don't.
they have forgotten what he said on page 141:
"[B]ig government hurts consumers much more than business. However That doesn't mean that businesses aren't ripping us off. They are, and they'll do it every chance they get." (Emphasis mine.)
Considering his disdain of injury lawsuits, he really ought to consider giving away a free whiplash collar with every purchase of his book.
The existence of corrupt, unethical or scammy businesses, however, is, in Stossel's world, self-correcting -- because competition takes care of them. "Competition, media coverage, and (occasionally) legal prosecution limit their opportunities to scam consumers," he assures us, after his chapters on "Clueless Media" and "Monster Government." And though he casually mentions that, sure, there are some corporations who "rip us off" -- "Enron, WorldCom and Tyco became famous for it" -- he fails wholly to address the troublesome dilemma of monopolies. On the very next page, after mentioning those three problematic corporate giants, he launches into:
MYTH: Government must make rules to protect us from business.
TRUTH: Competition protects us, if government gets out of the way.
Nary a mention in the entire section of relaxed government regulation having led to the criminal enterprises perpetrated upon the American people by corporate monopolies such as the ones he provides as examples. Not a passing suggestion that allowing monopolies to flourish decreases the possibility of competition solving the problem of unethical business practices. Instead, it's right on to defending Big Pharma and denouncing the idea of a higher minimum wage.
In fact, the only time Stossel makes much of a fuss about monopolies at all is when he embarks on debunking all the myths, lies and downright stupidity surrounding our "Stupid Schools." It is here he grouses endlessly about the "government monopoly" on educating children. "Government monopolies," he says, "routinely fail their customers."
As proof, Stossel reproduces much of what originally aired in January as a report on 20/20 filed under the name Stupid in America, which argued that U.S. students were in deep trouble by comparing test results between U.S. and Belgian students. At the time, Bob Somerby of the Daily Howler thoroughly debunked the report, pointing out such glaring flaws as Stossel's failure to identify what test was given and how comparability between the two sets of students was established -- if it was at all.
If Stossel read Somerby's critique (or one of the many others across the blogosphere) of his "Stupid" segment, he doesn't show it. None of the concerns raised directly following the airing of the same material earlier this year were addressed in the book. The omissions of the test name and any description of the Belgian students still stand, and his assertion that our government monopoly on public education fails its students rests solely on some students from "an above-average school in New Jersey" scoring 47 percent on an unnamed test on which unidentified Belgian students scored 76 percent.
This isn't the only piece of "Myths" that originated with 20/20. In his introduction, Stossel notes, "This book is really the work of many of us at 20/20" -- nor is 20/20 the only place in which one can find glimpses of "Myths." His latest syndicated column, which can be found at Real Clear Politics and Townhall, is called "Religious Fanatics Terrorize American Farmers" -- and is nearly indistinguishable from pages 101-103 of "Myths," in which he contends that environmentalists are actually not scientists and activists but "religious fundamentalists."
MYTH: Environmental regulators are dispassionate scientists.
TRUTH: Many are radical activists.
From there he goes on to explain that "years ago, ranchers and farmers told me that the government's environmental regulatory agencies had been taken over by religious fundamentalists (environmental fanatics) so hostile to the idea of private property that they'd use the endangered species law to drive just about every landowner off his land." In support of this assertion, Stossel quotes a transcript from an interview with a retired biologist named Jim Beers who worked for the Department of Fish and Wildlife for 30 years, in which Beers claims, "The agencies today are staffed with environmental radical activists," but he cites no ranchers or farmers.
I turned to the endnotes, which recommended I see the Aug. 2, 2002, story on20/20at ABC's website. There I found a similar lack of ranchers or farmers grousing about religious fundamentalists to Stossel; just the same Beers quote -- and nothing, from Beers or anyone else, calling environmentalists "religious fundamentalists." The incendiary designation seems to be a creation of Stossel's, for which he provides no explanation.
Also quoted in "Myths," to bolster the notion that these environmental radicals are seeking to "drive just about every landowner off his land," is Mike Paulson, therein described as a "property rights advocate," though I could uncover no mention of Paulson as a property rights advocate anywhere that was not in association with Stossel. The story on the ABC website gives some insight into why that may be. There he is described as "a local land rights activist," but by the time he made it into Stossel's book, he was bestowed with a title more worthy of such dramatic and unsupported pronouncements.
All of this is part of his recounting of a Washington State wildlife survey in which biologists were tasked with determining whether Candian lynx were present in the northern United States by collecting hair. During the survey, unauthorized samples of hair were submitted, which the biologists who submitted them dubiously claimed were to test the lab, prompting an investigation by the Government Accountability Office. Stossel quotes them as saying, "There was no procedure whereby the biologists who submitted samples would receive preliminary results, so that they could subsequently notify the laboratory of their unauthorized submissions." Damning indeed.
This is all the proof Stossel needs that religious fundamentalists have taken over the government's environmental regulatory agencies. The agencies' members were "cheating... caught with their hands in the cage." But here's the whole quote: "Further, the director of the laboratory told us that there was no procedure whereby the biologists who submitted samples would receive preliminary results, so that they could subsequently notify the laboratory of their unauthorized submissions." A difference of only nine words, but leaving out the fact that the laboratory director cooperated with the GAO investigation, clearly delineating procedure in a way that undermined the biologists' claims, is certainly more convenient to serve a thesis that contends environmental regulatory agencies are rife with religious fundamentalists, rather than just a few bad employees.
It is precisely this type of error that plagues "Myths." Little sins of omission, half-quotes and curiously absent qualifiers. Nothing is quite what Stossel would have his readers believe.
The back cover of "Myths" gushes: "Find out what's true and what's not in this thought-provoking follow-up to "Give Me a Break." And much like the book's title, this little marketing snippet has a rather unfortunate double-meaning. To those who would pick up the book to become, as Bill O'Reilly promises on the jacket, "smarter than your friends," the phrase likely reads as a selling point. To everyone else, it should be read as a plea to do your own research.
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Sings the Cor-pirate
Siren song
Lulls millions
To sleep
So they can all be fleeced.
With fairy tails of:
A
Perfect
Democratic Union.
Just another
Mercenary
Improper Gander-ist!
Feathering his bed.
The
Sideshow
Illusionist.
Carney Sideshow Feast
Hypnotizes
Everyone:
Look into my microscope!
Propagating
The Faux Illusion.
A free country.
Americo
Run by and for the people.
With his
Spy Glass out
He looks about
Always focusing on:
Delusion.
Hey,
Stossel!
See that Elephant in the room.
It will be your ruin.
When you get trampled
In
The
Confusion.
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Posted by: sausage on Jun 22, 2006 5:46 AM
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But the wrestling story that got the most attention was aired on ABC-TV’s weekly newsmagazine, "20/20," just three days after the WWF’s Washington’s Birthday card at the Garden. ABC consumer reporter John Stossel began the show by identifying himself as a former high school wrestler, and spoke with both Mansfield and Wilson—who affirmed that promoters arrange the outcome of each matches with the wrestlers beforehand, and that the holds, throws, and punches used by each wrestler are performed with the victim’s cooperation.
Midway through the report, Stossel was shown playing a tape of a bout for Eddy Mansfield, asking, "Is this real wrestling?"
"No, it’s not real," said Mansfield, who is an engaging, charming talker. "I mean, if somebody believed that, they’d be stupid." (Mansfield, who during his career was known as the "Continental Lover," seems to have many of the attributes of a successful wrestler: He has blue eyes and a cute spoiled-child’s face, with dirty-blonde curls that make him look like a well-muscled Harpo Marx.)
Then Mansfield took Stossel into the ring for a remarkable demonstration of wrestling’s Kama Sutra. After giving a brief lesson in stagefighting, Mansfield debunked several of the commonest throws, including the "body slam" (in which a standing wrestler appears to pick up another in order to throw him on his back), by allowing the diminutive reporter to perform them on himself. ("He did half the work," said Stossel in a voice-over.) Mansfield also drew a razor blade across his forehead, saying that wrestlers are paid extra for drawing their blood during matches.
Finally, the feature closed by showing an encounter between Stossel and wrestler Dave "Dr. D" Schults (a former tag-team partner of Mansfield’s) taped after Schults had stepped out of the ring during a Garden card late in December. Stossel, microphone in hand, was seen talking with an angry-looking, six- and-a-half foot tall, somewhat blonde-bearded wrestler. (The segment’s producer, Bernie Cohen, recalled later, "I had started the interview with Schults. And Schults was acting very nasty to me, but then John walked over to me, and I said, ‘John, you finish this.’ John still accuses me of deliberately handing him the mike. But I’d figured it was an act—these guys do an act all the time.")
A wrestler like David Schults is more accustomed to being interviewed on-camera by a wrestling promoter or an announcer paid by one—not a network television reporter asking hostile questions. Schults was flushed and sweaty with exertion, having just emerged a loser from a ring encounter against Japanese wrestler Antonio Inoki:
STOSSEL: Is this a good business?
SCHULTS: Yeah, it’s a good business. I wouldn’t be in it if it wasn’t.
STOSSEL: Why is it a good business?
SCHULTS: Because only the tough survive, that’s the reason you ain’t in it. And this punk holding the camera, the reason he ain’t in it. The reason these rednecks out here ain’t in it, because it’s a tough business.
STOSSEL: That’s terrific.
SCHULTS: Why, is that all you got?
STOSSEL: I’ll ask you the standard questions, you know.
SCHULTS: The standard question.
STOSSEL: I think this is fake.
SCHULTS: You think this is fake? [hits Stossel on ear, Stossel falls down] What’s that, is that fake? Huh? What the hell’s wrong with you? That’s an open-handed slap, huh? You think it’s fake, you -- [hits Stossel on other ear].
MAN: Easy, easy.
SCHULTS: Huh, what do you mean? Fake. What the hell is the matter with you?
-continued-
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In a mock-"personal story" segment aired on a WWF telecast six months before, Schultz had been depicted behaving like a mean s.o.b. to his "wife" and "children." Weeks before the confrontation, one wrestler had told Ray Didinger, "Some guys know when to let the ring go. Schultz doesn't. We let him be."
But a month later in the Village Voice, freelance writer Dan Bischoff concluded his wrestling story (and a somewhat distorted account of the incident) by writing, "But he [Stossel] deserved it." Bischoff continued by posing a worthy question, one which seemed to be on many people's minds: "In a post-McMahon world, the real question about wrestling isn't 'Is it fake?' but 'Is it art?'"
Ray Field.com
The upshot of the incident was "libertarian" badass Stossel successfull sued David Shultz and won, the settlement was rumored to be between $280,000 and $425,000, effectively ending Shultz's career.
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Debating a pathological liar on CNBC
VIDEO: Embarrassing John Stossel on CNBC
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Posted by: xbj on Jun 22, 2006 6:04 AM
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Back then though Stossel didn't have a gimmick; oh, he was an all right reporter, maybe even a little left-leaning like most smart reporters. But he didn't have a gimmick, and Tucker Carlson was just in the fourth grade. Or something.
Now, of course, Tucker's a big name, a young conservative kind of guy that's not belligerent, just a little dense, like all conservatives and young guys who wear silly bow ties. And Stossel's trying to out Tucker Tucker, which never really works; one should try to be themselves, as they always have been.
I keep waiting for the day Stossel shows up in a bow tie, the Geraldo moustache shaved...
Give US a break... sometimes conventional wisdom IS correct, no matter what cooked intel he digs up to conveniently make his points....
Like teachers are paid enough.... that one was really Rovian, wasn't it?
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Even PBS is lumbered with this constraint on freedom of speech, or have we forgotten public television has corporate benefactors? And, if that doesn't prevent the truth from being broadcast, the politically correct anal retentives at WGBH, Boston will censore the story, so no one really takes offence!
Only at the BBC World Service in London is this anal compulsive political correctness brought to its' fullness! This is due to the fact so many in BBC news management are full of the toxic excrement of Jesus. What worries me is how many people throughout the planet rely on the BBC as their main source of news.
Meanwhile at the Disneyworld Fantasyland that is ABC's 20/20, John Stossel keeps breaking wind between his teeth, all the while deluding himself he is engaged in a worthwhile enterprise. Gimme a break, John Stossel!
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Posted by: ClassicLib on Jun 22, 2006 11:47 AM
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In the 1970's Nixon placed price controls on gasoline. All of a sudden there was a gas "shortage". During the great depression government put price controls on transportation and brought railroads to the brink of destruction. During WWII government put price controls almost all products and as a result almost all products were unavailable and had to be rationed. Price controls on Civil Aviation were put in place in 1938 when they were removed in the late 70's the price to fly dropped like a stone and 26 years later is still less expensive to fly to the same destinations, despite 26 years of inflation. The best way to have a shortage or excess of anything is to control the price of an item. Set the price too low and you have a shortage, Set the price too high and you have an over-abundance. Control wage prices and you will have less jobs as sure as the sun rises tomorrow.
But THIS time we have suspended the laws of supply and demand and price controls for the value of Minimum Wage will have NO EFFECT!
While you guys are at it, could you suspend the laws of gravity? I would like to learn to fly...
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» But laissez-faire economics work out so well in the late 1920's
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The comments here have answered my question thoroughly. Thanks, AlterNet!
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Today's minimum wage is at a 50-year low, and we can see the impact on our economy. It's a simple formula: consumers have less money to spend, US businesses lay off workers, and the downward spiral continues. Increase the minimum wage, increase consumer spending, and the job market expands.
Our economy today is ruled on the basis of increasing corporate profit at any cost, and this has brought our economy to its knees. This is the result of uncontrolled corporations. Our only chance is to "prime the pump" by getting money into the hands of US consumers again, letting corporate profits depend on sales, not on government handouts.
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Sings the Cor-pirate
Siren song
Lulls millions
To sleep
So they can all be fleeced.
With fairy tails of:
A
Perfect
Democratic Union.
Just another
Mercenary
Improper Gander-ist!
Feathering his bed.
The
Sideshow
Illusionist.
Carney Sideshow Feast
Hypnotizes
Everyone:
Look into my microscope!
Propagating
The Faux Illusion.
A free country.
Americo
Run by and for the people.
With his
Spy Glass out
He looks about
Always focusing on:
Delusion.
Hey,
Stossel!
See that Elephant in the room.
It will be your ruin.
When you get trampled
In
The
Confusion.
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Posted by: sausage on Jun 22, 2006 5:46 AM
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But the wrestling story that got the most attention was aired on ABC-TV’s weekly newsmagazine, "20/20," just three days after the WWF’s Washington’s Birthday card at the Garden. ABC consumer reporter John Stossel began the show by identifying himself as a former high school wrestler, and spoke with both Mansfield and Wilson—who affirmed that promoters arrange the outcome of each matches with the wrestlers beforehand, and that the holds, throws, and punches used by each wrestler are performed with the victim’s cooperation.
Midway through the report, Stossel was shown playing a tape of a bout for Eddy Mansfield, asking, "Is this real wrestling?"
"No, it’s not real," said Mansfield, who is an engaging, charming talker. "I mean, if somebody believed that, they’d be stupid." (Mansfield, who during his career was known as the "Continental Lover," seems to have many of the attributes of a successful wrestler: He has blue eyes and a cute spoiled-child’s face, with dirty-blonde curls that make him look like a well-muscled Harpo Marx.)
Then Mansfield took Stossel into the ring for a remarkable demonstration of wrestling’s Kama Sutra. After giving a brief lesson in stagefighting, Mansfield debunked several of the commonest throws, including the "body slam" (in which a standing wrestler appears to pick up another in order to throw him on his back), by allowing the diminutive reporter to perform them on himself. ("He did half the work," said Stossel in a voice-over.) Mansfield also drew a razor blade across his forehead, saying that wrestlers are paid extra for drawing their blood during matches.
Finally, the feature closed by showing an encounter between Stossel and wrestler Dave "Dr. D" Schults (a former tag-team partner of Mansfield’s) taped after Schults had stepped out of the ring during a Garden card late in December. Stossel, microphone in hand, was seen talking with an angry-looking, six- and-a-half foot tall, somewhat blonde-bearded wrestler. (The segment’s producer, Bernie Cohen, recalled later, "I had started the interview with Schults. And Schults was acting very nasty to me, but then John walked over to me, and I said, ‘John, you finish this.’ John still accuses me of deliberately handing him the mike. But I’d figured it was an act—these guys do an act all the time.")
A wrestler like David Schults is more accustomed to being interviewed on-camera by a wrestling promoter or an announcer paid by one—not a network television reporter asking hostile questions. Schults was flushed and sweaty with exertion, having just emerged a loser from a ring encounter against Japanese wrestler Antonio Inoki:
STOSSEL: Is this a good business?
SCHULTS: Yeah, it’s a good business. I wouldn’t be in it if it wasn’t.
STOSSEL: Why is it a good business?
SCHULTS: Because only the tough survive, that’s the reason you ain’t in it. And this punk holding the camera, the reason he ain’t in it. The reason these rednecks out here ain’t in it, because it’s a tough business.
STOSSEL: That’s terrific.
SCHULTS: Why, is that all you got?
STOSSEL: I’ll ask you the standard questions, you know.
SCHULTS: The standard question.
STOSSEL: I think this is fake.
SCHULTS: You think this is fake? [hits Stossel on ear, Stossel falls down] What’s that, is that fake? Huh? What the hell’s wrong with you? That’s an open-handed slap, huh? You think it’s fake, you -- [hits Stossel on other ear].
MAN: Easy, easy.
SCHULTS: Huh, what do you mean? Fake. What the hell is the matter with you?
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In a mock-"personal story" segment aired on a WWF telecast six months before, Schultz had been depicted behaving like a mean s.o.b. to his "wife" and "children." Weeks before the confrontation, one wrestler had told Ray Didinger, "Some guys know when to let the ring go. Schultz doesn't. We let him be."
But a month later in the Village Voice, freelance writer Dan Bischoff concluded his wrestling story (and a somewhat distorted account of the incident) by writing, "But he [Stossel] deserved it." Bischoff continued by posing a worthy question, one which seemed to be on many people's minds: "In a post-McMahon world, the real question about wrestling isn't 'Is it fake?' but 'Is it art?'"
Ray Field.com
The upshot of the incident was "libertarian" badass Stossel successfull sued David Shultz and won, the settlement was rumored to be between $280,000 and $425,000, effectively ending Shultz's career.
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Debating a pathological liar on CNBC
VIDEO: Embarrassing John Stossel on CNBC
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» the video link...
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Posted by: xbj on Jun 22, 2006 6:04 AM
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Back then though Stossel didn't have a gimmick; oh, he was an all right reporter, maybe even a little left-leaning like most smart reporters. But he didn't have a gimmick, and Tucker Carlson was just in the fourth grade. Or something.
Now, of course, Tucker's a big name, a young conservative kind of guy that's not belligerent, just a little dense, like all conservatives and young guys who wear silly bow ties. And Stossel's trying to out Tucker Tucker, which never really works; one should try to be themselves, as they always have been.
I keep waiting for the day Stossel shows up in a bow tie, the Geraldo moustache shaved...
Give US a break... sometimes conventional wisdom IS correct, no matter what cooked intel he digs up to conveniently make his points....
Like teachers are paid enough.... that one was really Rovian, wasn't it?
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Even PBS is lumbered with this constraint on freedom of speech, or have we forgotten public television has corporate benefactors? And, if that doesn't prevent the truth from being broadcast, the politically correct anal retentives at WGBH, Boston will censore the story, so no one really takes offence!
Only at the BBC World Service in London is this anal compulsive political correctness brought to its' fullness! This is due to the fact so many in BBC news management are full of the toxic excrement of Jesus. What worries me is how many people throughout the planet rely on the BBC as their main source of news.
Meanwhile at the Disneyworld Fantasyland that is ABC's 20/20, John Stossel keeps breaking wind between his teeth, all the while deluding himself he is engaged in a worthwhile enterprise. Gimme a break, John Stossel!
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Posted by: ClassicLib on Jun 22, 2006 11:47 AM
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In the 1970's Nixon placed price controls on gasoline. All of a sudden there was a gas "shortage". During the great depression government put price controls on transportation and brought railroads to the brink of destruction. During WWII government put price controls almost all products and as a result almost all products were unavailable and had to be rationed. Price controls on Civil Aviation were put in place in 1938 when they were removed in the late 70's the price to fly dropped like a stone and 26 years later is still less expensive to fly to the same destinations, despite 26 years of inflation. The best way to have a shortage or excess of anything is to control the price of an item. Set the price too low and you have a shortage, Set the price too high and you have an over-abundance. Control wage prices and you will have less jobs as sure as the sun rises tomorrow.
But THIS time we have suspended the laws of supply and demand and price controls for the value of Minimum Wage will have NO EFFECT!
While you guys are at it, could you suspend the laws of gravity? I would like to learn to fly...
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» But laissez-faire economics work out so well in the late 1920's
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Posted by: michaeltwatson on Jun 22, 2006 5:35 PM
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Posted by: krose on Jun 23, 2006 8:43 PM
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Posted by: kryptx on Jun 28, 2006 4:04 PM
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The comments here have answered my question thoroughly. Thanks, AlterNet!
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Posted by: Dianka on Aug 21, 2006 6:38 AM
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Today's minimum wage is at a 50-year low, and we can see the impact on our economy. It's a simple formula: consumers have less money to spend, US businesses lay off workers, and the downward spiral continues. Increase the minimum wage, increase consumer spending, and the job market expands.
Our economy today is ruled on the basis of increasing corporate profit at any cost, and this has brought our economy to its knees. This is the result of uncontrolled corporations. Our only chance is to "prime the pump" by getting money into the hands of US consumers again, letting corporate profits depend on sales, not on government handouts.
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