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The blogosphere is changing all of that. Blogs are now a full-fledged alternative venue where citizens can directly communicate with and inform one another without having to rely only on establishment media sources. And they can obtain news analysis from a virtually infinite set of voices. Since its inception, though, the blogosphere has been largely self-contained, with bloggers able to exert influence on the dialogue within the blogosphere but having almost no influence outside of it.
But that is now changing, too.
The growth of the blogosphere's influence -- both in terms of the sheer numbers who participate in the blogosphere and the growing appreciation of its importance -- renders inevitable the growing influence of bloggers outside of the blogsphere. The blogosphere is pursuing this opportunity by developing mechanisms to enable bloggers to demand a voice in the national political dialogue.
A little more than two weeks ago, on April 25, my forthcoming book, "How Would a Patriot Act?" jumped in just over 12 hours from No. 50,925 on Amazon's best-seller list all the way to No. 1, where it remained for the next four days. It reached the top spot despite the fact that it is not even scheduled to be released until May 15, and despite the fact that the publisher has not yet spent a single penny on advertising, beyond the cost of employee staff time to reach out via the internet.
The book's jump to No. 1 was galvanized exclusively by a discussion of the book's imminent release by a handful of liberal bloggers, including some with the largest blog readership on the web. The recommendation of these bloggers, combined with the familarity of many in the blogosphere with the work I have been doing on these issues at my blog, Unclaimed Territory, generated some much-appreciated enthusiasm, which drove the book to the top spot.
My book is purely a blogosphere book: Working Assets Publishing approached me about writing this book -- the new publisher's first book -- based solely on the contents of my blog. The book's ideas and arguments were developed almost exclusively as a result of writing for and interacting with my blog community. The research for the book was done primarily by my readers, and I discovered many of the arguments and much of the evidence in the book as a result of reading comments on my blog, as well as from reading the posts of my fellow political bloggers.
There are a few other blogger books currently on the market, including "Crashing the Gate" by Jerome Armstrong and Markos Moulitsas, "Get this Party Started" by Chris Bowers and "Hostile Takeover" by David Sirota. Publishing books by bloggers, the ideas for which largely emerge from the blogosphere, is clearly a model that works and will only grow.
Beyond books, it is becoming commonplace for well-known bloggers to appear on television as new pundits, to be given prominent op-ed space in the nation's largest newspapers or to be quoted as experts on various political matters in major news stories.
And bloggers are not only talking about the news, but making it, too. John Aravosis of AmericaBlog all but single-handedly broke and drove the Jeff Gannon story with original reporting on his blog. This month, Congress enacted legislation protecting the privacy of cell phone numbers as a result of Aravosis' discovery that companies were selling cell numbers for a low fee. A recent Time magazine article reported on an online argument between blogger Matt Stoller and anonymous high-level congressional staffers regarding whether Democrats are sufficiently tough and aggressive in the political tactics they use.
In February, Jane Hamsher of Firedoglake and John Amato at Crooks and Liars led a blogger campaign to force the Washington Post ombudsman, Deborah Howell, to (very reluctantly) retract her factually false claim that not just Republicans, but also Democrats, received money from Jack Abramoff. When the Post hired far-right Regnery editor Ben Domenech as its new blogger, liberal bloggers quickly uncovered the news that Domenech was a serial plagarist and forced the Post to fire Domench days after it announced his hiring. And discoveries on my blog of various administration statements from 2002 regarding FISA, which directly contradict the administration's defenses in the NSA scandal, led to front-page stories in the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times and Knight-Ridder, all of which credited the blogosphere as having broken the story.
All of this matters not simply because bloggers are new faces, but because so many of the ideas, so much of the analysis, and the underlying approach to political change which characterize the blogosphere is just different in nature than most everything else that comprises the standard national media discussions of the political issues facing our country.
That isn't to say that the blogosphere is perfect (it definitely is not) or that it doesn't have disadvantages as compared to the national media (it does). But, generally speaking, the blogosphere is a fundamentally different way of talking about, thinking about and being engaged in political matters -- and in creating a more democratic media -- and all of this means that the content it produces and the ideas it generates are substantively different than what gets produced elsewhere.
Whole books could be (and, I believe, have been) written on how and why the blogosphere is different. The collaborative nature of it is definitely one of the principal factors -- unlike some paid media pundit who talks only to a handful of like-minded and similarly situated pundits and others in the isolated elite political class, the blogosphere is nothing more than the aggregate by-product of mass, undiluted conversations taking place among thousands of highly motivated, engaged and well-informed citizens every day.
But beyond being just collaborative, the blogosphere is characterized by an independence and autonomy that is glaringly absent in the conventional national media venues. As Hamsher eloquently observed last month, there has to be some significant motivation for someone to go to their computer every day and do the work to maintain a blog, just as something has to motivate people to spend time at their computers every day reading and participating in intense, detailed political discussions.
Bloggers, their readers and commenters are mostly just citizens who are highly dissatisfied with the conventional media outlets and dominant political institutions, all of which fail in too many ways to serve our democracy well. What is most significant about the blogosphere is that it enables direct and immediate communication -- and coordination -- among huge numbers of citizens who want to force new ideas and arguments into what was previously a closed and highly controlled media and political dialogue.
And, gradually and incrementally, it is working. We seem to be at the very beginning of that process, and the impact on our country's political processes will only grow, vastly. And as it does, not just new faces and new voices -- but whole new perspectives and approaches -- will force their way into our nation's mainstream political dialogue.
Given how empty, stagnant and corrupt that dialogue has been over the past several years, disruptive new perspectives can only be a great improvement.
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Posted by: anothername on May 11, 2006 2:26 AM
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Forgive my inaccurate memory, but in one day (or one week) in the 1970s (or 1980s), a poster of one then-current TV pin-up actress sold something like 7 million copies. So forgive me for not being overwhelmed that 50,000 copies a book not yet published have been sold at Amazon.com.
The popular blogs continue to be tied to print or broadcast media or to be tied to open use websites. Moreover, while bloggers have received considerable news coverage for fact checking comments, they continue to be poor representations of original and responsible reporting or, more importantly, investigative journalism.
In addition, the time journalists take to update blogs gives them less time to get their primary work done. Just as I laugh at the Saturday radio address of the president and the opposition party's response, because they have so many outlets to be heard that one weekly radio speech is silly and is rarely even listened to by most Americans, blogs are extraneous for established news outlets.
There are always exceptions and perhaps the Pulitzers should start including a blog award for outstanding commentary and another one for outstanding reporting, and allow for a non-professional category for each.
As for blogs allowing people the opportunity to speak freely, I've never had any problem being able to do that simply by writing letters to the editors of the newspapers and other publications that I read or broadcasts that I watch or hear.
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Posted by: cry0fan on May 11, 2006 4:42 AM
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Several reasons I can see:
1. The Great Mentioners of the mass media elevate certain blogs and forums to greater visibility by MENTIONING them in the mass media. The ones that they mention are those that cleave unto the "conventional wisdom" , the Washington consensus. If not, such blogs are not mentioned, and those that do cleave are mentioned and gain visibility and money and consulting fees and so forth.
THey provide the model for the others to follow. Monkey see monkey do.
politcal blogs and forums that are mentioned are those that purge the posters and commentors who are ideological outriders. Thus the ideological hegemony is maintained.
For example, here is something for you. Why is it that on all those fervid and incestuous pseudoLiberal blogs that this idea has not gained much recognition: the reason that the welfare state cannot gain popular approval is that the American left orients it towards the poor, who are a MINORITY of the citizens. In Europe, the welfare is mostly for the middle class. Thus, the right cannot demonize the welfare state, but the middle class has its nose right in the middle of it all. THe poor are taken care of better there than here because the welfare state cannot be demonized as well there. So what the left has to do is get the middle class on the welfare state, paid for by progressive taxation. RIght now, the American middle class get breaks via the tax code. Not the same thing.
So why is it that the American left is not all over this idea?
Because the American left is made up of political animals, who are actually megaconformists. In the blogosphere, all but conformists are ousted. So you have this slavish groupthink that simply accepts ideas from the most prominent of the bloggers, the ones that were made prominent by the great mentioners of the mass media.....
First step is to acknowledge the problem....
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Posted by: BJT on May 11, 2006 6:27 AM
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Want to be truly revolutionary? Blog for a return to true laizzes-faire, blog for a return to a true free market, blog for a return to the constitutional REPUBLIC, not democracy! Blog for individual liberty and personal responsibility, not goverment programs and handouts. If our current government officials are so corrupt, what makes you think your Democrats or Greens are going to be any different?
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Posted by: wawa on May 11, 2006 6:58 AM
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But after 9/11 I got really restless and began asking a lot of politically incorrect questions. I have never been satisfied with easy answers. And so I began the research to discover why a small group of people hated Americans so much, that they would do something as evil as targeting and cold bloodedly murdering innocent people. That research led me to write an historcial fact filled memoir of a 1948 Palestinian refugee and travel 3 times into Israel Palestine and give birth to WAWA:
http://www.wearewideawake.org/
May 17-20, I will be reporting on TIKKUN's 2nd Network of Spiritual Progressives Conference in DC and on May 18 TIKKUN will be presenting a New Bottom Line to Congress.
Members of Tikkun are diverse in our faith/spiritual beliefs but we
are ALL PATRIOTS who disagree with the current Administration.
My experience at the 1st TIKKUN conference for Spiritual Progressives became:
Chapter 2: The Revolution has started now...
everything is FREE on:
http://www.wearewideawake.org/
"We have it in our power to change the world"-Tom Paine
May we all DO SOMETHING to make it happen
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Posted by: micheleweldon on May 11, 2006 7:39 AM
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I agree with you completely about how blogs have changed journalism, and I suggest a few other ways blogs have changed newspapers. I just finished writing a book, "Everyman News," about the dramatic shift in tone, sourcing and story content in American newspapers in the last five years. One reason --out of 8 --is blogs.
Blogs have changed writing style, made mainstream journalism more chatty, conversational and anecdotal. Without the style shift, it is like expecting readers to go from casual Friday to a black-tie event, moving from the ease and accessibility of blogs to a more structured, formal writing style in old-style, professional journalism. Readers prefer feeling included in the conversation, rather than allowed to peak in the closed dialogue between experts.
Also, the bottom-up sourcing approach in blogging (as opposed to top-down from official sources and experts in traditional media) has forced all newspaper stories to include more unofficial sources and ultimately to create a more democractic approach to voices and story topics in the paper. Sure, some stories have the token anecdotal lead as an afterthought, but more newspapers are writing and reporting stories about the effects of events and policies on ordinary citizens, rather than just delivering what Robert McChesney called "official source stenography."
My book isn't out until next year, but I think you are absolutely correct with what is in yours and I look forward to reading it. I approached mine from a cultural standpoint, not political. And hey, if next year I get blogged up the Amazon the way you did, that would be dandy too.
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Posted by: dancerkc on May 11, 2006 8:18 AM
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This really reminds me of my work years ago on a small-town newspaper covering an area in upstate New York. There are Mayberries all over and this locale was one of them.
The old reminder that the locals in the local bars knew more of what was going on than the newspaper was usually true. They also spread more unfounded rumors and plain gossip. Just like blogs. So, if they already knew more than I did, why did they want to see what I put out?
I would like to think it was because I fact-checked before sending in the stories. I eventually (small village/hamlet areas aren't always that open to us outsiders) found out that I did have a rep for getting the facts right and that I was considered honest and reliable. (pat on the old back)
However, I really think that in large part they wanted to see what they already knew printed in the paper, the local MSM.
Boiled down, the local bar stools (or equivalent), fresh with the best cracker-barrel gossip and opinionated patrons, was often as good a reality check as any editor.
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Posted by: RobW on May 11, 2006 10:58 AM
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This really is the crux of the debate. For decades, traditional media has become increasingly monolithic, controlled by fewer and larger corporations. The blogosphere exists as a direct reaction to that.
And also- in the effort to avoid the "liberal bias" tarbaby, and in an attempt to duplicate the financial success of FoxNews, the rest of the news networks and punditocracy at the major papers have been increasingly Fox-like. They avoid asking hard questions of the President or any Republican, while attacking every Democrat in sight.
There's a huge problem with this, besides the obvious unfairness of it- it's bad business. As the election results have shown, this country is very closely divided in partisanship. The presidential elections are decided by 0.1% margins. Thanks to gerrymandered districts, the party that holds the minority in Congress actually represents a larger number of voters.
In other words, the country is half Democrat, duh... Yet, the msm continues to act as if the Democrat party is "out of the mainstream" and talks of moonbats and disloyalty, while ignoring or downplaying actual crimes by Republicans.
This stands in stark contrast to the '90s, when Clinton was routinely castigated by the press, who never understood why he remained popular even during his impeachment. It's the policies, stupid.
After years of insults and lies, Democrats and liberals are starting to look elsewhere for their news, analysis, and opinion. As a result, the web-based media is gaining market share while the MSM loses its readers and viewers.
Big surprise there- keep insulting half the country, and half the country quits buying your product.
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Have a look and weigh in yourself!
http://www.alicelillieandher.blogspot.com .
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Posted by: mite on May 21, 2006 8:32 AM
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My internet connection is monitored and restricted through my phone line- anything that relates to Bush, NSA, CIA, is blanked out on my screen, it really is done on this web site frequently, Hmm!
Do we really want to keep living in this DENIAL of the truth? While those in power keep fooling us about immigration, terror, our lives are controled through debt, water and food, and FEAR.
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Posted by: cry0fan on May 11, 2006 4:42 AM "
I agree, for the most part, with cry0fan's comments (quoted below).
At last someone is saying what I've been thinking since the 2004 campaign. The blogosphere does not function democratically and, with the ever-increasing number of blogs, I don't see how it can be changed. Most of us will probably continue to shout into the darkness and silence, while others remain and become 'celebrities.'
I've been puzzled- like many others- as to why certain blogs have gained so much attention. Were they the first to blog? Are the blogger's ideas more original or brilliant?, expressed in better writing?
I suspect that concurrence with the perspective of the GREAT MENTIONERS (great term!) does help, although it may not account for a very small # of well-publicized independent thinkers that do get attention.
As in other realms, success seems based on several unfair advantages- like family friends in powerful positions to help. Only the most aggressive and determined from among those WITHOUT connections, have even a slight chance of being noticed and read--regardless of how original or brilliant they may be.
The evolution of the blogosphere, sadly, may end up recapitulating the evolution of media- from pamphlets to print news and broadcast news, and from challenging to maintaining the status quo.
the original QUOTE:
"the politically oriented blogosphere had and has great promise, but has sadly failed to live up to it.
Several reasons I can see:
1. The Great Mentioners of the mass media elevate certain blogs and forums to greater visibility by MENTIONING them in the mass media. The ones that they mention are those that cleave unto the "conventional wisdom" , the Washington consensus. If not, such blogs are not mentioned, and those that do cleave are mentioned and gain visibility and money and consulting fees and so forth.
THey provide the model for the others to follow. Monkey see monkey do.
politcal blogs and forums that are mentioned are those that purge the posters and commentors who are ideological outriders. Thus the ideological hegemony is maintained."
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Forgive my inaccurate memory, but in one day (or one week) in the 1970s (or 1980s), a poster of one then-current TV pin-up actress sold something like 7 million copies. So forgive me for not being overwhelmed that 50,000 copies a book not yet published have been sold at Amazon.com.
The popular blogs continue to be tied to print or broadcast media or to be tied to open use websites. Moreover, while bloggers have received considerable news coverage for fact checking comments, they continue to be poor representations of original and responsible reporting or, more importantly, investigative journalism.
In addition, the time journalists take to update blogs gives them less time to get their primary work done. Just as I laugh at the Saturday radio address of the president and the opposition party's response, because they have so many outlets to be heard that one weekly radio speech is silly and is rarely even listened to by most Americans, blogs are extraneous for established news outlets.
There are always exceptions and perhaps the Pulitzers should start including a blog award for outstanding commentary and another one for outstanding reporting, and allow for a non-professional category for each.
As for blogs allowing people the opportunity to speak freely, I've never had any problem being able to do that simply by writing letters to the editors of the newspapers and other publications that I read or broadcasts that I watch or hear.
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Several reasons I can see:
1. The Great Mentioners of the mass media elevate certain blogs and forums to greater visibility by MENTIONING them in the mass media. The ones that they mention are those that cleave unto the "conventional wisdom" , the Washington consensus. If not, such blogs are not mentioned, and those that do cleave are mentioned and gain visibility and money and consulting fees and so forth.
THey provide the model for the others to follow. Monkey see monkey do.
politcal blogs and forums that are mentioned are those that purge the posters and commentors who are ideological outriders. Thus the ideological hegemony is maintained.
For example, here is something for you. Why is it that on all those fervid and incestuous pseudoLiberal blogs that this idea has not gained much recognition: the reason that the welfare state cannot gain popular approval is that the American left orients it towards the poor, who are a MINORITY of the citizens. In Europe, the welfare is mostly for the middle class. Thus, the right cannot demonize the welfare state, but the middle class has its nose right in the middle of it all. THe poor are taken care of better there than here because the welfare state cannot be demonized as well there. So what the left has to do is get the middle class on the welfare state, paid for by progressive taxation. RIght now, the American middle class get breaks via the tax code. Not the same thing.
So why is it that the American left is not all over this idea?
Because the American left is made up of political animals, who are actually megaconformists. In the blogosphere, all but conformists are ousted. So you have this slavish groupthink that simply accepts ideas from the most prominent of the bloggers, the ones that were made prominent by the great mentioners of the mass media.....
First step is to acknowledge the problem....
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Posted by: BJT on May 11, 2006 6:27 AM
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Want to be truly revolutionary? Blog for a return to true laizzes-faire, blog for a return to a true free market, blog for a return to the constitutional REPUBLIC, not democracy! Blog for individual liberty and personal responsibility, not goverment programs and handouts. If our current government officials are so corrupt, what makes you think your Democrats or Greens are going to be any different?
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Posted by: wawa on May 11, 2006 6:58 AM
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But after 9/11 I got really restless and began asking a lot of politically incorrect questions. I have never been satisfied with easy answers. And so I began the research to discover why a small group of people hated Americans so much, that they would do something as evil as targeting and cold bloodedly murdering innocent people. That research led me to write an historcial fact filled memoir of a 1948 Palestinian refugee and travel 3 times into Israel Palestine and give birth to WAWA:
http://www.wearewideawake.org/
May 17-20, I will be reporting on TIKKUN's 2nd Network of Spiritual Progressives Conference in DC and on May 18 TIKKUN will be presenting a New Bottom Line to Congress.
Members of Tikkun are diverse in our faith/spiritual beliefs but we
are ALL PATRIOTS who disagree with the current Administration.
My experience at the 1st TIKKUN conference for Spiritual Progressives became:
Chapter 2: The Revolution has started now...
everything is FREE on:
http://www.wearewideawake.org/
"We have it in our power to change the world"-Tom Paine
May we all DO SOMETHING to make it happen
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Posted by: micheleweldon on May 11, 2006 7:39 AM
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I agree with you completely about how blogs have changed journalism, and I suggest a few other ways blogs have changed newspapers. I just finished writing a book, "Everyman News," about the dramatic shift in tone, sourcing and story content in American newspapers in the last five years. One reason --out of 8 --is blogs.
Blogs have changed writing style, made mainstream journalism more chatty, conversational and anecdotal. Without the style shift, it is like expecting readers to go from casual Friday to a black-tie event, moving from the ease and accessibility of blogs to a more structured, formal writing style in old-style, professional journalism. Readers prefer feeling included in the conversation, rather than allowed to peak in the closed dialogue between experts.
Also, the bottom-up sourcing approach in blogging (as opposed to top-down from official sources and experts in traditional media) has forced all newspaper stories to include more unofficial sources and ultimately to create a more democractic approach to voices and story topics in the paper. Sure, some stories have the token anecdotal lead as an afterthought, but more newspapers are writing and reporting stories about the effects of events and policies on ordinary citizens, rather than just delivering what Robert McChesney called "official source stenography."
My book isn't out until next year, but I think you are absolutely correct with what is in yours and I look forward to reading it. I approached mine from a cultural standpoint, not political. And hey, if next year I get blogged up the Amazon the way you did, that would be dandy too.
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Posted by: dancerkc on May 11, 2006 8:18 AM
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This really reminds me of my work years ago on a small-town newspaper covering an area in upstate New York. There are Mayberries all over and this locale was one of them.
The old reminder that the locals in the local bars knew more of what was going on than the newspaper was usually true. They also spread more unfounded rumors and plain gossip. Just like blogs. So, if they already knew more than I did, why did they want to see what I put out?
I would like to think it was because I fact-checked before sending in the stories. I eventually (small village/hamlet areas aren't always that open to us outsiders) found out that I did have a rep for getting the facts right and that I was considered honest and reliable. (pat on the old back)
However, I really think that in large part they wanted to see what they already knew printed in the paper, the local MSM.
Boiled down, the local bar stools (or equivalent), fresh with the best cracker-barrel gossip and opinionated patrons, was often as good a reality check as any editor.
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Posted by: RobW on May 11, 2006 10:58 AM
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This really is the crux of the debate. For decades, traditional media has become increasingly monolithic, controlled by fewer and larger corporations. The blogosphere exists as a direct reaction to that.
And also- in the effort to avoid the "liberal bias" tarbaby, and in an attempt to duplicate the financial success of FoxNews, the rest of the news networks and punditocracy at the major papers have been increasingly Fox-like. They avoid asking hard questions of the President or any Republican, while attacking every Democrat in sight.
There's a huge problem with this, besides the obvious unfairness of it- it's bad business. As the election results have shown, this country is very closely divided in partisanship. The presidential elections are decided by 0.1% margins. Thanks to gerrymandered districts, the party that holds the minority in Congress actually represents a larger number of voters.
In other words, the country is half Democrat, duh... Yet, the msm continues to act as if the Democrat party is "out of the mainstream" and talks of moonbats and disloyalty, while ignoring or downplaying actual crimes by Republicans.
This stands in stark contrast to the '90s, when Clinton was routinely castigated by the press, who never understood why he remained popular even during his impeachment. It's the policies, stupid.
After years of insults and lies, Democrats and liberals are starting to look elsewhere for their news, analysis, and opinion. As a result, the web-based media is gaining market share while the MSM loses its readers and viewers.
Big surprise there- keep insulting half the country, and half the country quits buying your product.
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Posted by: alicelillie on May 15, 2006 2:38 PM
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Have a look and weigh in yourself!
http://www.alicelillieandher.blogspot.com .
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Posted by: mite on May 21, 2006 8:32 AM
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My internet connection is monitored and restricted through my phone line- anything that relates to Bush, NSA, CIA, is blanked out on my screen, it really is done on this web site frequently, Hmm!
Do we really want to keep living in this DENIAL of the truth? While those in power keep fooling us about immigration, terror, our lives are controled through debt, water and food, and FEAR.
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Posted by: cry0fan on May 11, 2006 4:42 AM "
I agree, for the most part, with cry0fan's comments (quoted below).
At last someone is saying what I've been thinking since the 2004 campaign. The blogosphere does not function democratically and, with the ever-increasing number of blogs, I don't see how it can be changed. Most of us will probably continue to shout into the darkness and silence, while others remain and become 'celebrities.'
I've been puzzled- like many others- as to why certain blogs have gained so much attention. Were they the first to blog? Are the blogger's ideas more original or brilliant?, expressed in better writing?
I suspect that concurrence with the perspective of the GREAT MENTIONERS (great term!) does help, although it may not account for a very small # of well-publicized independent thinkers that do get attention.
As in other realms, success seems based on several unfair advantages- like family friends in powerful positions to help. Only the most aggressive and determined from among those WITHOUT connections, have even a slight chance of being noticed and read--regardless of how original or brilliant they may be.
The evolution of the blogosphere, sadly, may end up recapitulating the evolution of media- from pamphlets to print news and broadcast news, and from challenging to maintaining the status quo.
the original QUOTE:
"the politically oriented blogosphere had and has great promise, but has sadly failed to live up to it.
Several reasons I can see:
1. The Great Mentioners of the mass media elevate certain blogs and forums to greater visibility by MENTIONING them in the mass media. The ones that they mention are those that cleave unto the "conventional wisdom" , the Washington consensus. If not, such blogs are not mentioned, and those that do cleave are mentioned and gain visibility and money and consulting fees and so forth.
THey provide the model for the others to follow. Monkey see monkey do.
politcal blogs and forums that are mentioned are those that purge the posters and commentors who are ideological outriders. Thus the ideological hegemony is maintained."
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