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Colbert Shocks the Media Silent
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In any case, the event has inspired debate on hundreds of political and media blogs, the posting of the video on dozens of sites, and massive traffic to E&P, where the first in-depth account of Colbert's performance was posted Saturday night.
You'd think from all the criiticism that the guy had based his routine on joking about launching a war and not finding the WMDs that inspired it. Oh, right, that was President Bush, two years ago.
Nevertheless, Dana Milbank of The Washington Post, appearing on Keith Olbermann's MSNBC program Monday night, joined the ranks of those who attended the dinner who felt Colbert "was not funny." On the other hand, he said the president's routine that night with a Bush impersonator was a howl.
This is the same Milbank who last June mocked a congressional forum on the Downing Street memo, and said it was led by a "hearty band of playmates."
Certainly, deciding what's funny is subjective, sometimes a matter of taste (or tastelessness), but increasingly, also, partisan. We bring our politics to everything nowadays, although some may be more open to good satire than others, even when someone on "your side" is hit.
Still, with the knocks on Colbert increasing, I have to ask: Where was the outrage when President Bush made fun of not finding those pesky WMDs at a very similar media dinner -- in the same ballroom -- two years ago? It represents a shameful episode for the American media, and presidency, yet is rarely mentioned today.
It occurred on March 24, 2004. The setting: The 60th annual black-tie dinner of the Radio and Television Correspondents Association (with many print journalists there as guests) at the Washington Hilton. On the menu: surf and turf. Attendance: 1,500. The main speaker: President George W. Bush, one year into the Iraq war, with 500 Americans already dead.
President Bush, as usual at such gatherings of journalists, poked fun at himself. Audiences love to laugh along with, rather than at, a president, for a change. It shows they are good sports, which many people (including the president) often doubt. It's all in good fun, except when it's in bad fun, such as on that night in March 2004.
That night, in the middle of his stand-up routine before the (perhaps tipsy) journos, Bush showed on a screen behind him some candid on-the-job photos of himself. One featured him gazing out a window, as Bush narrated, smiling: "Those weapons of mass destruction have got to be somewhere."
According to the transcript this was greeted with "laughter and applause" from the audience.
A few seconds later, he was shown looking under papers, behind drapes, and even under his desk, with this narration: "Nope, no weapons over there" (met with more "laughter and applause"), and then "Maybe under here?" (just "laughter" this time). Still searching, he settled for finding a photo revealing the Skull and Bones secret signal.
There is no record of whether Dana Milbank attended that dinner, but his paper the following day seemed to find this something of a howl. Jennifer Frey's report, carried on the front page of the Style section (under the headline, "George Bush, Entertainer in Chief"), led with Donald Trump's appearance, and mentioned without comment Bush's "recurring joke" of searching for the WMDs.
The Associated Press review was equally jovial: "President Bush poked fun at his staff, his Democratic challenger and himself Wednesday night at a black-tie dinner where he hobnobbed with the news media." In fact, it is hard to find any immediate account of the affair that raised questions over the president's slide show. Many noted that the WMD jokes were met with general and loud laughter.
The reporters covering the gala were apparently as swept away with laughter as the guests. One of the few attendees to criticize the president's gag, David Corn of The Nation, said he heard not a single complaint from his colleagues at the after-party. Corn wondered if they would have laughed if President Reagan, following the truck bombing of our Marines barracks in Beirut, which killed 241, had said at a similar dinner: "Guess we forgot to put in a stop light."
The backlash only appeared a day or two later, and not, by and large, emerging from the media, but from Democrats and some Iraq veterans. Then it was mainly forgotten. I never understood why Sen. John Kerry did not air a tape of the episode every day during his hapless final drive for the White House.
In any case, another 1,900 Americans have died in Iraq since Bush's ha-ha home video. As it happens, the Downing Street memo, and a similar British document that surfaced recently, suggested that Bush doubted WMDs existed and "fixed" the intelligence to take the nation to war. What a riot.
At that same Downing Street memo forum at the Capitol last year that Milbank mocked, former CIA analyst Ray McGovern, after cataloguing the bogus Bush case for WMDs and the Iraqi threat, looked out at the cameras and notepads, mentioned the March 24, 2004 dinner, and acted out the president looking under papers and table for those missing WMDs. "And the media was all yucking it up ... hahaha," McGovern said. "You all laughed with him, folks." Then he mentioned soldiers who had died "after that big joke."
Dana Milbank, who seems to like a good laugh, did not mention this in his hit piece the following day.
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Posted by: nbrown on May 4, 2006 12:38 AM
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The corporate media has given Bush a free pass on Iraq. Most of the major papers endorsed the Iraq invasion (NYTimes, Wash Post, etc.) and continue to support the occupation.
And even on the sick matter of "joking" that there were no WMD in Iraq, the media gave Bush a huge thumb's up.
But let's be clear about one thing: Bush wasn't merely "poking fun" at himself two years ago when joking about WMD. He was pulling a Bill Clinton, letting criticism bounce off of him as if he were made of rubber.
With American politics being purely about image, it's a great trick to pull. The effect was to convince his base that it "didn't matter" that there were no WMD in Iraq.
But back to the point, good work!
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Posted by: RoffleTheWaffle on May 4, 2006 1:03 AM
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What a fucking disgrace. Bush and his ship of fools don't deserve to even so much as set foot on American soil, much less run our country. Poking fun at a war in which thousands have died, laughing about the very mountain of lies he created to bring the war to pass... It only goes to show just how morally bankrupt this man is. It's a good thing to have a sense of humor, but for him of all people to joke around like that is just sickening.
Outrage aside, though, nice article. Also, I don't care if Colbert was out of line when he mopped the floor with the President. It needed to be said.
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Posted by: Prismagirl3 on May 4, 2006 1:21 AM
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Posted by: helen_0f_romford on May 4, 2006 2:06 AM
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This isn't about deference to the office of President, I don't remember any shown to Clinton whose offences in office were trivial compared alongside Bush. It is about traditional media, both print and broadcast, who only understand fairness and balance as meaning the promotion of right-wing ideologies.
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Posted by: mokidugway on May 4, 2006 2:56 AM
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One is his press dinner spoof about wmds.
The other is the interview with Tucker Carlson in wihch Bush mocked the death-row pleas for clemency of fellow born-again Karla Faye Tucker.
People die at his orders, and Bush laughs. Not in private, but to the press. Moreover, few Americans seem to notice or care. And don't just blame the press. Both incidents were widely reported; the former aired on television.
It's absolutely chilling on so many levels.
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Posted by: IntnsRed on May 4, 2006 3:39 AM
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Just look at this article. Read the first sentence above.
Instead of reporting the facts -- say, something like "Comedian character Steven Colbert lampooned Bush personally which made the president visibly uncomfortable..." -- what do we have?
Instead of facts we have E&P defining the "acceptable range" of political debate. The article focuses on whether Colbert went overboard in mocking Bush.
The second sentence of the piece works to reinforce this concept by painting Colbert's performance as not funny. (If true, the blunt truth is so new to reporters they're shocked.)
And we're to call that "objective journalism" and cheer?
A long time ago Chomsky wrote bluntly and eloquently about the corporate mass media's role in limiting free speech and enforcing an "acceptable range" of political debate. Like the corporate mass media as a whole, this piece from E&P does that job subtly and well -- to all of our detriment.
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Posted by: yogendra2 on May 4, 2006 3:41 AM
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Posted by: cry0fan on May 4, 2006 3:44 AM
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Pretty soon American voters will think that all that politics is about is just pure partisanship, and that politics has nothing to do with making our lives better by working together to get better lives for the majority by keeping the rich people from getting most of everything.
Of course, the rich people like it JUST FINE the way you PseudoLiberals and the RightWing have set it up to make American politics nothing but pure partisanship. Oh, wait, I forgot, your hero Colbert did bring up maybe TWO real issues. Let's see: THe NSA is spying on us. Oh, yeah, exposing that is almost as good as unversal healthcare. Great catch, there. Oh, and there is a war on. OK, yeah, maybe you have an issue there.
But those are far from the most important issues. I guess Colbert choose those issues to raise because all those other issues are verboten under "progressive" democrat activist theory.
Gee, I cannot figure out for the life of me why Middle Americans prefer to vote GOP.
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Posted by: DoctorAndy on May 4, 2006 3:44 AM
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Posted by: timsaward on May 4, 2006 3:51 AM
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They didn't laugh because Colbert rather daringly decided not to reassure them with his comedy, but to challenge them.
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Posted by: Nez46 on May 4, 2006 4:04 AM
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That being said, regarding the actual piece, I've blogged it, I've talked about it at work and I've replayed it for my Conservative Father in law--the vast majority of folks, including my stuffy ol Pop-in-law, thought it was hilarious.
To those who take offense-get over it, crybabies: Colbert's act was specfreakintacular and those who don't think so can kiss his-and our-royal arses.
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Posted by: ljsullivan1166@earthlink.net on May 4, 2006 4:35 AM
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Actually, when I watched Colbert's performance for the third time, I realized that a lot more people were laughing than I had realized at first. They were also amazed. And squirming in their seats. We haven't had a really good Court Jester in ages. The Court Jester was the only one who could get away with ridiculing the King to his face in public; it was his job.
I can't imagine what Mark Smith was thinking when he hired Colbert for that position -- but then, a major problem with a lot of these conservatives is that they don't have much of a sense of humor. He must have thought Colbert was actually a Bush-loving conservative; either that, or Smith has a death wish. It would be interesting to find out.
But I think a lot of the people in that audience actually 'got' Colbert and found his performance as breathtaking as we did; and it is hard to laugh when you are holding your breath. The fact is, he had the guts -- and balls -- and brains -- to say what millions of us would like to say to the Bush gang. What millions of us wish our Representatives and Senators in Congress would say out loud and then do something about it.
And what he had to say to the Washington press about their bootlicking, obsequious attitude toward this puny tin potentate was also right on. And including Helen Thomas in the program was sheer brilliance. About time that intrepid lady got some recognition.
Great satire serves a great purpose and, in this case, a highly patriotic purpose. It unmasks the fakers and reveals them for what they are in reality. Like pulling the curtain away and revealing the Great and Terrible Oz for the deceptive little pipsqueak he actually was. Like revealing that, in fact, the Emperor has no clothes. Once that happens, it becomes much harder to fool the people again. When the Great and Terrible Oz and the naked Emperor are exposed, their power evaporates. And it couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.
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Posted by: ljsullivan1166@earthlink.net on May 4, 2006 4:41 AM
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Maybe he is a subversive, and it was a plot; maybe he's on OUR side!
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Posted by: Catherine a on May 4, 2006 4:50 AM
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We need to have these things pointed out more often.
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» Go after them directly.
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Posted by: chomsky on May 4, 2006 5:12 AM
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Colbert poked fun at all of this. He seems to recognize that the journalists are as culpable for democaratic errors as the policy makers and their wonks.
No wonder no one smiled. The press have ceded part of their job to comedians.
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Posted by: kc10ken on May 4, 2006 5:34 AM
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I though Colbert's performance was LONG OVERDUE. I absolutely LOVED the message he sent to dumbya and he did it in such an hilarious way.
We need more Colbert's to give this human shitwave of an administration a good dose of reality.
Here's a salute to you Steve.......Thanks...from all the Vets who wish they could have said it themselves!
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Posted by: Yundah on May 4, 2006 5:40 AM
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Colbert is following in the path of those bards. I hope he continues. I watched the dinner in which Bush "mocked" his own search for WMD's and was appalled that the audience laughed. Bush's blatant attempt at trying to make his lie "better" by admitting it (albeit mockingly) should have been met with the (mostly) silence that Colbert faced.
I think a free press, with rights of satire, is truly what stands between us and tyranny, when it stands between us and tyranny. I have been very disappointed these last six years. Our press needs to do something, play the pipes, break out the Jamesons, pour the Guinness, anything to get them in an Irish Bardic frame of mind. Anything to get their cynicism going.
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Posted by: jrmart66 on May 4, 2006 6:22 AM
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Hmm.
ah, well, I guess the "liberal" press ain't so liberal after all. About the only one that seemed to have a sense of humor is whats her name, that little old white house correspondent that appeared in the video clip.
It has taken almost a year of the "Colbert Report" for the right wing to finally realize they are the butt. That it is their buffoonery that is being ridiculed. doesn't surprise me.
The REAL JOKE isn't the monologue's the REAL JOKE is the President.
Now, let me see where did I put that passport? I want to go to Canada.
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Posted by: eileen on May 4, 2006 6:31 AM
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The truth hurts.
The truth is the Fourth Estate is often biased or just silent about many issues.
WE THE PEOPLE can find the truth if we seek it.
Muckraker's thrive on the Internet not in coorporate controlled airconditioned offices.
Where is the media on the historic FREEDOM OF SPEECH trial in Jerusalem? They are silent,
but Vanunu is not and WAWA has the exclusive
"30 Minutes with Vanunu" available as a FREE download:
http://www.wearewideawake.org
"We have it in our power to change the world."-Tom Paine
But we all have to DO SOMETHING to make it happen.
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Posted by: Rattlesby on May 4, 2006 6:48 AM
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I admire his courage, and I agree with his purpose. But it was embarrassing, sort of adolescent humor, and I was not laughing very much. Yes, I hate everything about this President, and I grieve over the losses this country has suffered under this Bush regime. But don't be afraid to face facts -- people laugh when they think something is funny, and this routine, done by a truly likeable, intelligent guy, bombed.
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Posted by: fpitz on May 4, 2006 6:50 AM
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We can debate this back and forth forever, with 100 differing dialectical screeds. Colbert spoke for a hell of a lot of us when he ripped Bush (figuratively). Now, if only we could find someone to rip Bush (literally).
For this radical (68 year old), the debate boils down to rather simple terms instead of all the psuedo-intellectual liberal bullshit. Mom taught me a a damn young age folks, you got to give respect to get respect. Bush's Mom never taught him that, ergo all this crap about "respect" for the presidency, and "acceptable ranges" (of critique) are just that, CRAP. Bush has never given respect to anyone in his miserable, failed life, why should we offer him any respect? He's the president of the most hated country in the world, how in the hell can anyone respect him - or the office that he has so corrupted.
Same goes for the media folks, why should anyone respect, or pay attention to the media presstitutes?
Frank
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Posted by: douglashoyt on May 4, 2006 6:55 AM
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However, the "truth" is that the MSM and the ruling elite are the same group. Both have a controlling interest in world domination. The corporate energy section of the ruling elite wish to control the oil in Iraq; the MSM section wish to control what, how, why, when, where, and who of the American world view.
So it is not surprising that the MSM should not critize Mr. Bush or his policies.
The self styled journalist at that party have all been picked to think and act in a supportive manner towards the other sections of the ruling elite.
In other words, it is a conspiracy.
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Posted by: LMNOP on May 4, 2006 6:58 AM
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This was just another intelligence failure and some more incompetence from the administration. Only these assclown fucktards could make such an eggregious error.
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on May 4, 2006 7:27 AM
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Thank you Stephen. Well Done! (from ANNA)
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Posted by: dmstern on May 4, 2006 7:28 AM
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The embedded cozy reporting of DC is creating a massive need for information. The internet is filling that need.
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Posted by: supercrisp on May 4, 2006 7:37 AM
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(Hell, I recently met a graduate student newly admitted into the geography department on a PRESIDENTIAL FELLOWSHIP who didn’t know where Madagascar was.)
In general, American standards for knowledge and truth are in the toilet, and making a buck and getting your way in life are sitting on the throne. In my opinion, we need to start from the ground up, teaching our children values and educating them, while at the same time we try to role back the deregudamage done to our way of life and the defunding of our institutions that create that way of life. Oh yeah, and get these fundy know-nothings the hell out of office.
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Posted by: jreinhart1 on May 4, 2006 7:47 AM
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The "Press" is the most pathetic group of shills that form a group of entertainment news that has been formed by focus groups to tell the people what they want to hear. Colbert's roasting of the White House is the best real satire and the most news worthy exercise of freedom of the press since John Stewart skewered the CNN wingnuts on Crossfire.
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Posted by: whattheheck on May 4, 2006 8:04 AM
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You know, I think this whole situation has been just great. Bushy Boy, with all his careful scripting and manipulating to make sure only the best situations are in the camera's lens when he is in the public eye, had the whole thing blow up in his face when a "renegade" -- a real, live person with their own thoughts who wasn't in the back pocket of Bush or Rove -- got placed in the spotlight for 23 minutes and let the truth fly. It is such an unusual situation for this to have happened that it sticks out like a sore thumb. The public has become numb to anyone speaking the truth about Bush (and, the best part, TO HIS FACE), that they are stunned into silence. I really pray for the message to sink in and for the applause to grow louder & louder.
May Colbert & Mitchell be the first of a new wave of those who have the courage to tell the emperor he really is naked.
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Posted by: woodford54 on May 4, 2006 8:21 AM
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Posted by: Ghoulman on May 4, 2006 8:22 AM
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That night, in the middle of his stand-up routine before the (perhaps tipsy) journos, ...
Perhaps tipsy. Reporters. Celebrities. Politicians... PERHAPS?!?!?
Journalists are drunkin' bastards to a man. And that's the way I like 'em. I'll take a drunkin' journo over the fearful, balless, faggots who were too scared to laugh at Colberts comedy milestone in the presence of thier Boy Emperor.
Drink up America... it's your salvation, if libation. ;p
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Posted by: JohnnyM on May 4, 2006 8:29 AM
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There's a clear agenda of the white house (the black house as I call it) and these comedians are part of it, whether they know it or not. The mainstream press is owned by a handful of people who have an agenda that clearly reveals itself when you read outside the box. This speech is a distraction, so the freethinkers of the world run to blogs and sites like this to comment without anything really being done!
The issues of the world today are NOT funny. There is nothing funny about starvation, war, nuclear arms, depleted uranium, 911, rigged elections, etc..
Now, get back to fighting for your dignity while you still have it.
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Posted by: needlefoot on May 4, 2006 8:43 AM
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Our backs should be aching. Don't you think it is time to stand up, straight and tall, time to stand up with the courage that Colbert shows and do some serious truth-speaking - straight or comedic??
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Posted by: thoughtcriminal on May 4, 2006 8:49 AM
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A preoccupation with 'energy security' - like controlling all those oil wells on the southern Iraq-Iran border. Now we have an imperial tour of the old Soviet states for oil concessions - it has such historical flavor. I don't think the czar will be taking him on any hunting trips, however.
The US corporate media can be counted on to do their best to ignore the oil and gas rationale behind Cheney's trip.
Here is a quote from Cheney's speech: "And no one can justify actions that undermine the territorial integrity of a neighbor, or interfere with democratic movements." How can Cheney say this with a straight face?
Rearranging deck chairs on the Hindenburg... that's funny.
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Posted by: Mike Turnauer, Vancouver,WA on May 4, 2006 9:01 AM
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I can see why members of the press were uncomfortable that Colbert basically told them (there was nothing suggestive about it) that not only was the emperor butt naked but this press corp watched him strip down to his birthday suit and a precious few among them dared to suggest that something might be amiss. Colbert declared them guilty of derilection of duty and deep down (or maybe not so deep down) they know he's right.
Take Colbert's zinger about Bush believing the same thing on Wednesday that he does on Monday no matter what happens on Tuesday. When I first heard this I thought this was a hilarious sendup of Bush's famous stubbornness when it comes to changing his mind on issues. Not so. Al Franken does a great routine on how Bush has flip-flopped on many issues so this is not Colbert perpetuating the canard that Bush never changes his mind. The implication here is much more nefarious, that Bush was hot for Iraq on Monday, September 10, 2001, and no less so on Wednesday, September 12, 2001, when he gave specific orders to Richard Clarke to connect 9/11 to Iraq by any means no matter how flimsy. It speaks volumes to why the prosecution of our justified war on the Taliban in Afghanistan has been so perfunctory and how we're now pulling out many troops while the Taliban is reconstituting and regaining strength there. This is escaping public scrutiny largely due to focus on Iraq. Instead of concentrating on Afghanistan as the focal point of "terrorism" Bush was allowed to create a breeding ground for it in Iraq where it was virtually non-existant.
The press had a chance to stop the madness in Iraq before it started and now they must live with the guilt of their abject failure and its disasterous consequences. Little wonder they are having difficulty finding the humor in being told as much by Colbert.
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Posted by: rgoldfilm on May 4, 2006 9:26 AM
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Bush looking for WMDs under a desk? Arguably, funny. Who cares that he got a "free pass" for that?
The problem is that he got a free pass for lying, for going to war on false pretenses, for criminal offenses, for screwing the American public, for subverting democracy, for ineptness, for creating havoc in Iraq and the world.
Will he get a free pass on going to war in Iran? If so, that would be in very poor taste. And not very funny.
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Posted by: balderkitty on May 4, 2006 10:18 AM
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As the media continues to censure Colbert, and I exempt the courageous Helen Thomas from this comment, then they are more in this administration's pocket then the American public realized.
Apparently, George Clooney's Good Night And Good Luck was more a highly pertient and on-target commentary on the cowardice of today's media and how closely they mirror the fear of the McCarthy era. Where are their ethics to support those who engage in Free Speech?
Colbert has a lot of guts putting out Americans' frustration with this Administration, especially right to George Bush's face. I applaud his courage and now know that our modern-day Edward R. Murrow is satirist Steve Colbert.
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Posted by: skiptowne on May 4, 2006 11:25 AM
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Bush is such an easy target but the Congress is equally to blame for the U.S.'s downward spiral.
As an aside, John Kerry and the Democrats have blown it, big time. They had/have so much ammo to use against the neocons. Why is it so hard to tell the truth and present original ideas for these people?
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Posted by: sunyc2 on May 4, 2006 1:11 PM
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Is it possible for a comedian to have a bad night?
Was the video Steven showed at a much higher
humor level than his own live?
Is the President apparently a much better comedian
than a prez? Only a fool would vote for George Jr.
But only someone with a square point would try
to fit it in the round hole. Hey! It's a fact:
the President was much funnier ( with his twin )
than Steven.
Does that mean George is right and Steven is wrong?
Hey? It has nothing to do with it! Hey!
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Posted by: Lauren on May 4, 2006 1:23 PM
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I had an idea a while back about how to end the drug war. It involves standing up to the prez. I knew the drug war was really about religion and religious freedom. We can sue for that in 'activist courts', but the really effective way to achieve this freedom would be to get the President to grant it to us. That's how one gets things done quickly.
Of course this wasn't going to be very easy with the way President Bush feels about the religious sacrements of the religions involved.
What I have in mind is a petition to the president for our religious freedom. I figured a church and a website would be needed and was blessed to discover the THC Ministry. If you are a sacremental cannabis believer please join our march to freedom.
I figure when we have a million believiers, delivering a petition to the President to grant us our religious freedom and the pardoning of our people should be pretty unignorable. The challenge is getting an audience. I am very proud of prince Stephen. Nice job.
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Posted by: jwg on May 4, 2006 2:13 PM
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Of course Alternet, the Daily Show and the Colbert Report are my major news sources. When I see Bush now days on the tube I have 'not' whatever he says to get the truth, that or wonder what other story is he obfuscating.
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Posted by: nbrown on May 4, 2006 4:21 PM
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Read.
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Posted by: PingoLingo on May 4, 2006 4:38 PM
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Amazing job Stephen, simply amazing....
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Posted by: noles1st on May 4, 2006 5:48 PM
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Did anyone even bother to pay any attention to Colbert's act--did it occur to them that his schtick was all about poking fun at the super-sanctimonious "news men" on the Fox network. "Fair and balanced" my ass is what his entire show was about. He was better at being Bill O'Lielly than Bill was. But it was all mockery.
Somehow the Repubs missed that before they sent out the invite.
For all of those out there who think the Prez is above mockery, get a life. When he has done the dumb-ass shit that he has, someone has to have the "huevos" to call him on it.
Thank God, Colbert did not decide to back down in front of the Prez and the glare of the spotlight.
It is obvious that no one in the mainstream press possesses anything remotely approaching "balls" in the way that Colbert mockingly says it on the Colbert Report. (And I apologize to those who feel that vaginas are threatened by that remark.)
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Posted by: jerseymaiden on May 4, 2006 6:34 PM
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But man, did colbert rock the house!!!! holy crap!!! I had to pick my jaw up off the floor, I could not believe what he was saying. Best thing that's happened since al gore gave up on the recount!
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Posted by: juno1957 on May 4, 2006 7:59 PM
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'Nuff said.
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Posted by: monkeywrench on May 4, 2006 8:47 PM
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"Nevertheless, Dana Milbank of The Washington Post, appearing on Keith Olbermann's MSNBC program Monday night, joined the ranks of those who attended the dinner who felt Colbert "was not funny." On the other hand, he said the president's routine that night with a Bush impersonator was a howl."
. . .Yeah, and Hitler thrilled us when he showed he could "trip the light fantastic" when he danced his little war jig too. . .
There was something particularly onerous about the mainsteam press toadies getting all giggly and going along with the impersonator joke about our president, who really IS a joke. It's kinda like a variation on an old Soviet truism ("we pretend to work and they pretend to pay us"): in the case of the press attendees, "the president pretends to like being made fun of, and his loyal subjects pretend to laugh with him."
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Posted by: Talpone on May 5, 2006 1:26 AM
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The Bush era is pushing the world into increasingly catastrophic political, economic and environmental conditions, and when it all comes crashing down, most likely one of the fascist ideologies waiting in the wings (probably with more than a little financial assistance from some large corporate networks) will take hold of one part of the population (white, where available), who will proceed to massacre the other for everything that went wrong.
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Posted by: deanorff on May 5, 2006 6:20 AM
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I campaigned for Kerry throughout 2004. In Iowa in January '04, I talked to two dozen registered Democrats. 5 of them (20%) acted as if I was blaspheming Jesus if I so much as Hinted that Bush was anything but an honest and decent man. If John Kerry had hit Bush for the WMD jokes, the mainstream media would have painted him as the cold, mean, angry liberal, the negative campaigner, the bad guy, the "not a good man" guy.
What happened after Kerry said "we should go to war because we Have to not because we Want to" at the Dems '04 convention? One solid month of the media giving free air time to Swift Boat Vets for Bush.
What happened when Kerry came out with his 6-part plan for stablilizing Iraq and winning the war on terror? The media scoffed. They wouldn't even give it serious discussion. Unrealistic, they said. Besides, the strategic details Don't Matter, they claimed, because Kerry had the Same Goal as Bush. How many anti-Bushers caught on to how utterly Insane and irrational that media angle was? They weren't paying attention. They were too busy wimpily "standing up" to Bush. As if that was a heroic accomplishment. Some activists were so out of touch they actually thought Kerry could win if he came out for troop withdrawal in 2004.
You wanted Kerry to talk tough. Howard Dean talks tough. Has he ever gotten a shred of positive press? No. To the "mainstream" press, Howard is the angry, foot-in-mouth radical. Hillary Clinton's "plantation" comment? What did that get her?
Get a Clue. The Media Does Not Like Democrats Who Talk Tough. It Attacks Them. It is the not the job of Democratic candidates to Be Angry. That is the job of Democratic activists. And you don't get angry at your own candidates. You get angry at the mainstream media that "protected" the public from all the negative Iraq-related info that didn't come out until After the 2004 election was over. We activists knew what was going on -- but if we tried to say it, the mainstream treated us as if we were angry, irrational Bush-haters. And the voting public bought into it. So those few of us whose top priority was getting John Kerry elected got Smart -- we emphasized the pro-Kerry argument instead of just anti-Bush. Unfortunately, there weren't enough of us.
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Posted by: Greg Bacon on May 8, 2006 6:00 AM
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Finally, someone with enough cajones to speak truth to power confronted Georgie and his press lackeys.
IMHO, believe the press choose to ignore Colbert for two reasons:
1. Colbert callled the press on what they actually are, spineless. They didn't like the truth being tossed into their satiated faces.
2. They were also aghast that Colbert had the audacty, mind you, the audacity, to question his Majesty, King George.
That's a shock they'll never recover from.
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Posted by: EBB on May 9, 2006 10:51 AM
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Keep "them" distracted, and, at all cost keep "them" misinformed.
Hitler knew, as some in the "Wanna be the Burning Bush" administration obviously do, that control of the Media is crucial, if they are to achieve their goals.
Judging by current events, and the "reporting" or lack therof, they would seem to have fairly successfully accomplished that.
Bless Stephen Colbert for having BIG BALLS, and the courage that it took to stand face to face with the "President" and tell it like it IS.
It's a real joke that there is any debate about the "good taste" of, or the relative Comedic merit of Stephen Colbert's lambasting of Bush.
Thankfully, He did not choose to simply amuse or distract the crowd, which seems mostly to be what the they were expecting.
Instead, to His credit, Colbert delivered messages that desperately need to be heard by the American people.
He spoke in plain language, which used to be the American way.
He spoke forcefully, which was necessary for his words to penetrate the thick skins of complacency.
President Bush hasn't evidently pissed enough people off YET to be Deposed.
One wonders, considering the number of major Domestic and International blunders made during the Bush administrations, and the staggering DEBTS that these actions have dumped on the shoulders of future generations of American citizens, what it WILL take to provoke America's consciousness to rise, and to begin to adress the real issues that face America, beginning with the removal of this administration
Hopefully Stephen Colbert's roasting of the President, and his administration will contiribute to that.
Someone commented on the Denial process in place within the Bush Government.
Bushees maintain a molecularly tight firewall, through which not one " discouraging word " can pass, otherwise, they could not believe in, or support and impose, their morally bankrupt agendas on the American people
The Bush administrations have shown consistent and total disrespect for the social principles which the Forefathers of America ( who would seem to have been moral men ) upheld as beliefs important enough to incorporate in their Declaration of America's intent to the World at the nation's Birthing.
LIFE has become tenuous for huge numbers of American citizens
America's LIBERTY has been replaced by Tyranny at home and abroad.
EQUALITY of America's citizens is demonstrated daily to be a sham.
America's PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS has been reduced to non-stop shopping.
America's, and , thereby American's FREEDOM, which was maintained by their Democratic process is being stolen from them, by men with evil intent .
EVEN the "decider", who has a statistically dismal record of "getting the message" HAD to hear Stephen Colbert's brilliantly delivered, and extremely inciteful words. ( especially since George was only a few feet away, with no bush or Bushee's to hide behind )
George, however, has repeatedly demonstrated that He would rather listen to a good story than the Truth...
George seems to be the inspiration for the quote " Although He got the Message, he was deaf to the News".
Rise up in Righteous Indignation America, and kick this sick and corrupt administration out of power!
Once you have removed them from power, Prosecute them for their crimes against the FREEDOM and the LIBERTY of Americans, ( not to mention the rest of the world
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Posted by: EBB on May 9, 2006 10:54 AM
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Keep "them" distracted, and, at all cost keep "them" misinformed.
Hitler knew, as some in the "Wanna be the Burning Bush" administration obviously do, that control of the Media is crucial, if they are to achieve their goals.
Judging by current events, and the "reporting" or lack therof, they would seem to have fairly successfully accomplished that.
Bless Stephen Colbert for having BIG BALLS, and the courage that it took to stand face to face with the "President" and tell it like it IS.
It's a real joke that there is any debate about the "good taste" of, or the relative Comedic merit of Stephen Colbert's lambasting of Bush.
Thankfully, He did not choose to simply amuse or distract the crowd, which seems mostly to be what the they were expecting.
Instead, to His credit, Colbert delivered messages that desperately need to be heard by the American people.
He spoke in plain language, which used to be the American way.
He spoke forcefully, which was necessary for his words to penetrate the thick skins of complacency.
President Bush hasn't evidently pissed enough people off YET to be Deposed.
One wonders, considering the number of major Domestic and International blunders made during the Bush administrations, and the staggering DEBTS that these actions have dumped on the shoulders of future generations of American citizens, what it WILL take to provoke America's consciousness to rise, and to begin to adress the real issues that face America, beginning with the removal of this administration
Hopefully Stephen Colbert's roasting of the President, and his administration will contiribute to that.
Someone commented on the Denial process in place within the Bush Government.
Bushees maintain a molecularly tight firewall, through which not one " discouraging word " can pass, otherwise, they could not believe in, or support and impose, their morally bankrupt agendas on the American people
The Bush administrations have shown consistent and total disrespect for the social principles which the Forefathers of America ( who would seem to have been moral men ) upheld as beliefs important enough to incorporate in their Declaration of America's intent to the World at the nation's Birthing.
LIFE has become tenuous for huge numbers of American citizens
America's LIBERTY has been replaced by Tyranny at home and abroad.
EQUALITY of America's citizens is demonstrated daily to be a sham.
America's PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS has been reduced to non-stop shopping.
America's, and , thereby American's FREEDOM, which was maintained by their Democratic process is being stolen from them, by men with evil intent .
EVEN the "decider", who has a statistically dismal record of "getting the message" HAD to hear Stephen Colbert's brilliantly delivered, and extremely inciteful words. ( especially since George was only a few feet away, with no bush or Bushee's to hide behind )
George, however, has repeatedly demonstrated that He would rather listen to a good story than the Truth...
George seems to be the inspiration for the quote " Although He got the Message, he was deaf to the News".
Rise up in Righteous Indignation America, and kick this sick and corrupt administration out of power!
Once you have removed them from power, Prosecute them for their crimes against the FREEDOM and the LIBERTY of Americans, ( not to mention the rest of the world
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What a gutsy guy, exactly what we need now to break through and start saying things like they really are.
He was so brave and said what we all wish we could say and right to BUsh's face.
You go, Bro, I love you.
Kay In L.A>
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by Fawn Lickspittle - Chicago Daily News
The concensus of London insiders is that Jonathan Swift's recent performance at Buckingham Palace was a bomb. His speech "A Modest Proposal" was pronounced "Not funny" by Byron Bloviator of the Los Angeles Times and" in rather poor taste" by Lise Logorrohea of the Washington Post.
The king was not amused, and is reliably reported to have asked rhetorically "Good heavens!, Is the man suggesting we should interfere with the free market in potatoes.? Unthinkable.!"
The New York Times Book Review section was disappointed at Swift's failure to make the transition from children's literature (Gulliver's Travels) to more adult fare and suggests that he confine himself to less weighty matter if he wants to succeed as an author.
Government spokesperson Karl Coprology suggests that Swift's denial of any financial interest in the scheme (*) was less than sincere. "Although Mr. Swift may not have any edible offspring, I think one should look at the financial records of the family in total." he said, in an exclusive interview granted to this reporter.
(*) "I profess, in the sincerity of my heart, that I have not the least personal interest in endeavoring to promote this necessary work, having no other motive than the public good of my country, by advancing our trade, providing for infants, relieving the poor, and giving some pleasure to the rich. I have no children by which I can propose to get a single penny; the youngest being nine years old, and my wife past child-bearing." was less
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Posted by: BJT on May 10, 2006 7:21 PM
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However, this article is wrong, wrong, wrong. We don't need a more leftward-leaning media. "Progressives" don't need bigger media voices. Progressives are every bit as statist as the neocons. If it is your goal to use government programs to solve problems, you are already in the wrong thinking. The way to free people and secure their prosperity, safety and health is to elimiate government interference, not propagate it.
What we really need are liberal voices in the classical sense. Don't understand classical liberalism? Then you don't understand what America was founded upon. Read about it at mises.org or hear about how to restore liberty to your own life from the recorded conference calls at sorce190.com. Do research at famguardian.org. Read Edward Griffin's "The Creature from Jekyll Island." Get clued in to the Liberty Dollar, and how to circumvent and abolish the Federal Reserve, the biggest source of problems in America today.
We need voices for LIMITED GOVERNMENT, NATURAL RIGHTS (civil rights can always be taken away!) and social and economic LIBERTY.
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The corporate media has given Bush a free pass on Iraq. Most of the major papers endorsed the Iraq invasion (NYTimes, Wash Post, etc.) and continue to support the occupation.
And even on the sick matter of "joking" that there were no WMD in Iraq, the media gave Bush a huge thumb's up.
But let's be clear about one thing: Bush wasn't merely "poking fun" at himself two years ago when joking about WMD. He was pulling a Bill Clinton, letting criticism bounce off of him as if he were made of rubber.
With American politics being purely about image, it's a great trick to pull. The effect was to convince his base that it "didn't matter" that there were no WMD in Iraq.
But back to the point, good work!
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Posted by: RoffleTheWaffle on May 4, 2006 1:03 AM
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What a fucking disgrace. Bush and his ship of fools don't deserve to even so much as set foot on American soil, much less run our country. Poking fun at a war in which thousands have died, laughing about the very mountain of lies he created to bring the war to pass... It only goes to show just how morally bankrupt this man is. It's a good thing to have a sense of humor, but for him of all people to joke around like that is just sickening.
Outrage aside, though, nice article. Also, I don't care if Colbert was out of line when he mopped the floor with the President. It needed to be said.
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Posted by: helen_0f_romford on May 4, 2006 2:06 AM
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This isn't about deference to the office of President, I don't remember any shown to Clinton whose offences in office were trivial compared alongside Bush. It is about traditional media, both print and broadcast, who only understand fairness and balance as meaning the promotion of right-wing ideologies.
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Posted by: mokidugway on May 4, 2006 2:56 AM
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One is his press dinner spoof about wmds.
The other is the interview with Tucker Carlson in wihch Bush mocked the death-row pleas for clemency of fellow born-again Karla Faye Tucker.
People die at his orders, and Bush laughs. Not in private, but to the press. Moreover, few Americans seem to notice or care. And don't just blame the press. Both incidents were widely reported; the former aired on television.
It's absolutely chilling on so many levels.
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Posted by: IntnsRed on May 4, 2006 3:39 AM
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Just look at this article. Read the first sentence above.
Instead of reporting the facts -- say, something like "Comedian character Steven Colbert lampooned Bush personally which made the president visibly uncomfortable..." -- what do we have?
Instead of facts we have E&P defining the "acceptable range" of political debate. The article focuses on whether Colbert went overboard in mocking Bush.
The second sentence of the piece works to reinforce this concept by painting Colbert's performance as not funny. (If true, the blunt truth is so new to reporters they're shocked.)
And we're to call that "objective journalism" and cheer?
A long time ago Chomsky wrote bluntly and eloquently about the corporate mass media's role in limiting free speech and enforcing an "acceptable range" of political debate. Like the corporate mass media as a whole, this piece from E&P does that job subtly and well -- to all of our detriment.
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Posted by: cry0fan on May 4, 2006 3:44 AM
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Pretty soon American voters will think that all that politics is about is just pure partisanship, and that politics has nothing to do with making our lives better by working together to get better lives for the majority by keeping the rich people from getting most of everything.
Of course, the rich people like it JUST FINE the way you PseudoLiberals and the RightWing have set it up to make American politics nothing but pure partisanship. Oh, wait, I forgot, your hero Colbert did bring up maybe TWO real issues. Let's see: THe NSA is spying on us. Oh, yeah, exposing that is almost as good as unversal healthcare. Great catch, there. Oh, and there is a war on. OK, yeah, maybe you have an issue there.
But those are far from the most important issues. I guess Colbert choose those issues to raise because all those other issues are verboten under "progressive" democrat activist theory.
Gee, I cannot figure out for the life of me why Middle Americans prefer to vote GOP.
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They didn't laugh because Colbert rather daringly decided not to reassure them with his comedy, but to challenge them.
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That being said, regarding the actual piece, I've blogged it, I've talked about it at work and I've replayed it for my Conservative Father in law--the vast majority of folks, including my stuffy ol Pop-in-law, thought it was hilarious.
To those who take offense-get over it, crybabies: Colbert's act was specfreakintacular and those who don't think so can kiss his-and our-royal arses.
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Posted by: ljsullivan1166@earthlink.net on May 4, 2006 4:35 AM
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Actually, when I watched Colbert's performance for the third time, I realized that a lot more people were laughing than I had realized at first. They were also amazed. And squirming in their seats. We haven't had a really good Court Jester in ages. The Court Jester was the only one who could get away with ridiculing the King to his face in public; it was his job.
I can't imagine what Mark Smith was thinking when he hired Colbert for that position -- but then, a major problem with a lot of these conservatives is that they don't have much of a sense of humor. He must have thought Colbert was actually a Bush-loving conservative; either that, or Smith has a death wish. It would be interesting to find out.
But I think a lot of the people in that audience actually 'got' Colbert and found his performance as breathtaking as we did; and it is hard to laugh when you are holding your breath. The fact is, he had the guts -- and balls -- and brains -- to say what millions of us would like to say to the Bush gang. What millions of us wish our Representatives and Senators in Congress would say out loud and then do something about it.
And what he had to say to the Washington press about their bootlicking, obsequious attitude toward this puny tin potentate was also right on. And including Helen Thomas in the program was sheer brilliance. About time that intrepid lady got some recognition.
Great satire serves a great purpose and, in this case, a highly patriotic purpose. It unmasks the fakers and reveals them for what they are in reality. Like pulling the curtain away and revealing the Great and Terrible Oz for the deceptive little pipsqueak he actually was. Like revealing that, in fact, the Emperor has no clothes. Once that happens, it becomes much harder to fool the people again. When the Great and Terrible Oz and the naked Emperor are exposed, their power evaporates. And it couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.
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Posted by: ljsullivan1166@earthlink.net on May 4, 2006 4:41 AM
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Maybe he is a subversive, and it was a plot; maybe he's on OUR side!
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Posted by: Catherine a on May 4, 2006 4:50 AM
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We need to have these things pointed out more often.
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Posted by: chomsky on May 4, 2006 5:12 AM
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Colbert poked fun at all of this. He seems to recognize that the journalists are as culpable for democaratic errors as the policy makers and their wonks.
No wonder no one smiled. The press have ceded part of their job to comedians.
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I though Colbert's performance was LONG OVERDUE. I absolutely LOVED the message he sent to dumbya and he did it in such an hilarious way.
We need more Colbert's to give this human shitwave of an administration a good dose of reality.
Here's a salute to you Steve.......Thanks...from all the Vets who wish they could have said it themselves!
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Posted by: Yundah on May 4, 2006 5:40 AM
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Colbert is following in the path of those bards. I hope he continues. I watched the dinner in which Bush "mocked" his own search for WMD's and was appalled that the audience laughed. Bush's blatant attempt at trying to make his lie "better" by admitting it (albeit mockingly) should have been met with the (mostly) silence that Colbert faced.
I think a free press, with rights of satire, is truly what stands between us and tyranny, when it stands between us and tyranny. I have been very disappointed these last six years. Our press needs to do something, play the pipes, break out the Jamesons, pour the Guinness, anything to get them in an Irish Bardic frame of mind. Anything to get their cynicism going.
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Posted by: jrmart66 on May 4, 2006 6:22 AM
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Hmm.
ah, well, I guess the "liberal" press ain't so liberal after all. About the only one that seemed to have a sense of humor is whats her name, that little old white house correspondent that appeared in the video clip.
It has taken almost a year of the "Colbert Report" for the right wing to finally realize they are the butt. That it is their buffoonery that is being ridiculed. doesn't surprise me.
The REAL JOKE isn't the monologue's the REAL JOKE is the President.
Now, let me see where did I put that passport? I want to go to Canada.
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Posted by: eileen on May 4, 2006 6:31 AM
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The truth hurts.
The truth is the Fourth Estate is often biased or just silent about many issues.
WE THE PEOPLE can find the truth if we seek it.
Muckraker's thrive on the Internet not in coorporate controlled airconditioned offices.
Where is the media on the historic FREEDOM OF SPEECH trial in Jerusalem? They are silent,
but Vanunu is not and WAWA has the exclusive
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http://www.wearewideawake.org
"We have it in our power to change the world."-Tom Paine
But we all have to DO SOMETHING to make it happen.
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Posted by: Rattlesby on May 4, 2006 6:48 AM
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I admire his courage, and I agree with his purpose. But it was embarrassing, sort of adolescent humor, and I was not laughing very much. Yes, I hate everything about this President, and I grieve over the losses this country has suffered under this Bush regime. But don't be afraid to face facts -- people laugh when they think something is funny, and this routine, done by a truly likeable, intelligent guy, bombed.
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We can debate this back and forth forever, with 100 differing dialectical screeds. Colbert spoke for a hell of a lot of us when he ripped Bush (figuratively). Now, if only we could find someone to rip Bush (literally).
For this radical (68 year old), the debate boils down to rather simple terms instead of all the psuedo-intellectual liberal bullshit. Mom taught me a a damn young age folks, you got to give respect to get respect. Bush's Mom never taught him that, ergo all this crap about "respect" for the presidency, and "acceptable ranges" (of critique) are just that, CRAP. Bush has never given respect to anyone in his miserable, failed life, why should we offer him any respect? He's the president of the most hated country in the world, how in the hell can anyone respect him - or the office that he has so corrupted.
Same goes for the media folks, why should anyone respect, or pay attention to the media presstitutes?
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Posted by: douglashoyt on May 4, 2006 6:55 AM
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However, the "truth" is that the MSM and the ruling elite are the same group. Both have a controlling interest in world domination. The corporate energy section of the ruling elite wish to control the oil in Iraq; the MSM section wish to control what, how, why, when, where, and who of the American world view.
So it is not surprising that the MSM should not critize Mr. Bush or his policies.
The self styled journalist at that party have all been picked to think and act in a supportive manner towards the other sections of the ruling elite.
In other words, it is a conspiracy.
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This was just another intelligence failure and some more incompetence from the administration. Only these assclown fucktards could make such an eggregious error.
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Posted by: VZEQICVA on May 4, 2006 7:27 AM
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Thank you Stephen. Well Done! (from ANNA)
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Posted by: dmstern on May 4, 2006 7:28 AM
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The embedded cozy reporting of DC is creating a massive need for information. The internet is filling that need.
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Posted by: supercrisp on May 4, 2006 7:37 AM
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(Hell, I recently met a graduate student newly admitted into the geography department on a PRESIDENTIAL FELLOWSHIP who didn’t know where Madagascar was.)
In general, American standards for knowledge and truth are in the toilet, and making a buck and getting your way in life are sitting on the throne. In my opinion, we need to start from the ground up, teaching our children values and educating them, while at the same time we try to role back the deregudamage done to our way of life and the defunding of our institutions that create that way of life. Oh yeah, and get these fundy know-nothings the hell out of office.
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The "Press" is the most pathetic group of shills that form a group of entertainment news that has been formed by focus groups to tell the people what they want to hear. Colbert's roasting of the White House is the best real satire and the most news worthy exercise of freedom of the press since John Stewart skewered the CNN wingnuts on Crossfire.
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Posted by: whattheheck on May 4, 2006 8:04 AM
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You know, I think this whole situation has been just great. Bushy Boy, with all his careful scripting and manipulating to make sure only the best situations are in the camera's lens when he is in the public eye, had the whole thing blow up in his face when a "renegade" -- a real, live person with their own thoughts who wasn't in the back pocket of Bush or Rove -- got placed in the spotlight for 23 minutes and let the truth fly. It is such an unusual situation for this to have happened that it sticks out like a sore thumb. The public has become numb to anyone speaking the truth about Bush (and, the best part, TO HIS FACE), that they are stunned into silence. I really pray for the message to sink in and for the applause to grow louder & louder.
May Colbert & Mitchell be the first of a new wave of those who have the courage to tell the emperor he really is naked.
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Posted by: Ghoulman on May 4, 2006 8:22 AM
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That night, in the middle of his stand-up routine before the (perhaps tipsy) journos, ...
Perhaps tipsy. Reporters. Celebrities. Politicians... PERHAPS?!?!?
Journalists are drunkin' bastards to a man. And that's the way I like 'em. I'll take a drunkin' journo over the fearful, balless, faggots who were too scared to laugh at Colberts comedy milestone in the presence of thier Boy Emperor.
Drink up America... it's your salvation, if libation. ;p
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Posted by: JohnnyM on May 4, 2006 8:29 AM
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There's a clear agenda of the white house (the black house as I call it) and these comedians are part of it, whether they know it or not. The mainstream press is owned by a handful of people who have an agenda that clearly reveals itself when you read outside the box. This speech is a distraction, so the freethinkers of the world run to blogs and sites like this to comment without anything really being done!
The issues of the world today are NOT funny. There is nothing funny about starvation, war, nuclear arms, depleted uranium, 911, rigged elections, etc..
Now, get back to fighting for your dignity while you still have it.
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Posted by: needlefoot on May 4, 2006 8:43 AM
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Our backs should be aching. Don't you think it is time to stand up, straight and tall, time to stand up with the courage that Colbert shows and do some serious truth-speaking - straight or comedic??
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A preoccupation with 'energy security' - like controlling all those oil wells on the southern Iraq-Iran border. Now we have an imperial tour of the old Soviet states for oil concessions - it has such historical flavor. I don't think the czar will be taking him on any hunting trips, however.
The US corporate media can be counted on to do their best to ignore the oil and gas rationale behind Cheney's trip.
Here is a quote from Cheney's speech: "And no one can justify actions that undermine the territorial integrity of a neighbor, or interfere with democratic movements." How can Cheney say this with a straight face?
Rearranging deck chairs on the Hindenburg... that's funny.
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Posted by: Mike Turnauer, Vancouver,WA on May 4, 2006 9:01 AM
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I can see why members of the press were uncomfortable that Colbert basically told them (there was nothing suggestive about it) that not only was the emperor butt naked but this press corp watched him strip down to his birthday suit and a precious few among them dared to suggest that something might be amiss. Colbert declared them guilty of derilection of duty and deep down (or maybe not so deep down) they know he's right.
Take Colbert's zinger about Bush believing the same thing on Wednesday that he does on Monday no matter what happens on Tuesday. When I first heard this I thought this was a hilarious sendup of Bush's famous stubbornness when it comes to changing his mind on issues. Not so. Al Franken does a great routine on how Bush has flip-flopped on many issues so this is not Colbert perpetuating the canard that Bush never changes his mind. The implication here is much more nefarious, that Bush was hot for Iraq on Monday, September 10, 2001, and no less so on Wednesday, September 12, 2001, when he gave specific orders to Richard Clarke to connect 9/11 to Iraq by any means no matter how flimsy. It speaks volumes to why the prosecution of our justified war on the Taliban in Afghanistan has been so perfunctory and how we're now pulling out many troops while the Taliban is reconstituting and regaining strength there. This is escaping public scrutiny largely due to focus on Iraq. Instead of concentrating on Afghanistan as the focal point of "terrorism" Bush was allowed to create a breeding ground for it in Iraq where it was virtually non-existant.
The press had a chance to stop the madness in Iraq before it started and now they must live with the guilt of their abject failure and its disasterous consequences. Little wonder they are having difficulty finding the humor in being told as much by Colbert.
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Posted by: rgoldfilm on May 4, 2006 9:26 AM
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Bush looking for WMDs under a desk? Arguably, funny. Who cares that he got a "free pass" for that?
The problem is that he got a free pass for lying, for going to war on false pretenses, for criminal offenses, for screwing the American public, for subverting democracy, for ineptness, for creating havoc in Iraq and the world.
Will he get a free pass on going to war in Iran? If so, that would be in very poor taste. And not very funny.
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Posted by: balderkitty on May 4, 2006 10:18 AM
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As the media continues to censure Colbert, and I exempt the courageous Helen Thomas from this comment, then they are more in this administration's pocket then the American public realized.
Apparently, George Clooney's Good Night And Good Luck was more a highly pertient and on-target commentary on the cowardice of today's media and how closely they mirror the fear of the McCarthy era. Where are their ethics to support those who engage in Free Speech?
Colbert has a lot of guts putting out Americans' frustration with this Administration, especially right to George Bush's face. I applaud his courage and now know that our modern-day Edward R. Murrow is satirist Steve Colbert.
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Bush is such an easy target but the Congress is equally to blame for the U.S.'s downward spiral.
As an aside, John Kerry and the Democrats have blown it, big time. They had/have so much ammo to use against the neocons. Why is it so hard to tell the truth and present original ideas for these people?
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Posted by: sunyc2 on May 4, 2006 1:11 PM
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Is it possible for a comedian to have a bad night?
Was the video Steven showed at a much higher
humor level than his own live?
Is the President apparently a much better comedian
than a prez? Only a fool would vote for George Jr.
But only someone with a square point would try
to fit it in the round hole. Hey! It's a fact:
the President was much funnier ( with his twin )
than Steven.
Does that mean George is right and Steven is wrong?
Hey? It has nothing to do with it! Hey!
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Posted by: Lauren on May 4, 2006 1:23 PM
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I had an idea a while back about how to end the drug war. It involves standing up to the prez. I knew the drug war was really about religion and religious freedom. We can sue for that in 'activist courts', but the really effective way to achieve this freedom would be to get the President to grant it to us. That's how one gets things done quickly.
Of course this wasn't going to be very easy with the way President Bush feels about the religious sacrements of the religions involved.
What I have in mind is a petition to the president for our religious freedom. I figured a church and a website would be needed and was blessed to discover the THC Ministry. If you are a sacremental cannabis believer please join our march to freedom.
I figure when we have a million believiers, delivering a petition to the President to grant us our religious freedom and the pardoning of our people should be pretty unignorable. The challenge is getting an audience. I am very proud of prince Stephen. Nice job.
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Of course Alternet, the Daily Show and the Colbert Report are my major news sources. When I see Bush now days on the tube I have 'not' whatever he says to get the truth, that or wonder what other story is he obfuscating.
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Read.
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Posted by: PingoLingo on May 4, 2006 4:38 PM
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Amazing job Stephen, simply amazing....
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Posted by: noles1st on May 4, 2006 5:48 PM
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Did anyone even bother to pay any attention to Colbert's act--did it occur to them that his schtick was all about poking fun at the super-sanctimonious "news men" on the Fox network. "Fair and balanced" my ass is what his entire show was about. He was better at being Bill O'Lielly than Bill was. But it was all mockery.
Somehow the Repubs missed that before they sent out the invite.
For all of those out there who think the Prez is above mockery, get a life. When he has done the dumb-ass shit that he has, someone has to have the "huevos" to call him on it.
Thank God, Colbert did not decide to back down in front of the Prez and the glare of the spotlight.
It is obvious that no one in the mainstream press possesses anything remotely approaching "balls" in the way that Colbert mockingly says it on the Colbert Report. (And I apologize to those who feel that vaginas are threatened by that remark.)
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Posted by: jerseymaiden on May 4, 2006 6:34 PM
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But man, did colbert rock the house!!!! holy crap!!! I had to pick my jaw up off the floor, I could not believe what he was saying. Best thing that's happened since al gore gave up on the recount!
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'Nuff said.
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"Nevertheless, Dana Milbank of The Washington Post, appearing on Keith Olbermann's MSNBC program Monday night, joined the ranks of those who attended the dinner who felt Colbert "was not funny." On the other hand, he said the president's routine that night with a Bush impersonator was a howl."
. . .Yeah, and Hitler thrilled us when he showed he could "trip the light fantastic" when he danced his little war jig too. . .
There was something particularly onerous about the mainsteam press toadies getting all giggly and going along with the impersonator joke about our president, who really IS a joke. It's kinda like a variation on an old Soviet truism ("we pretend to work and they pretend to pay us"): in the case of the press attendees, "the president pretends to like being made fun of, and his loyal subjects pretend to laugh with him."
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The Bush era is pushing the world into increasingly catastrophic political, economic and environmental conditions, and when it all comes crashing down, most likely one of the fascist ideologies waiting in the wings (probably with more than a little financial assistance from some large corporate networks) will take hold of one part of the population (white, where available), who will proceed to massacre the other for everything that went wrong.
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Posted by: deanorff on May 5, 2006 6:20 AM
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I campaigned for Kerry throughout 2004. In Iowa in January '04, I talked to two dozen registered Democrats. 5 of them (20%) acted as if I was blaspheming Jesus if I so much as Hinted that Bush was anything but an honest and decent man. If John Kerry had hit Bush for the WMD jokes, the mainstream media would have painted him as the cold, mean, angry liberal, the negative campaigner, the bad guy, the "not a good man" guy.
What happened after Kerry said "we should go to war because we Have to not because we Want to" at the Dems '04 convention? One solid month of the media giving free air time to Swift Boat Vets for Bush.
What happened when Kerry came out with his 6-part plan for stablilizing Iraq and winning the war on terror? The media scoffed. They wouldn't even give it serious discussion. Unrealistic, they said. Besides, the strategic details Don't Matter, they claimed, because Kerry had the Same Goal as Bush. How many anti-Bushers caught on to how utterly Insane and irrational that media angle was? They weren't paying attention. They were too busy wimpily "standing up" to Bush. As if that was a heroic accomplishment. Some activists were so out of touch they actually thought Kerry could win if he came out for troop withdrawal in 2004.
You wanted Kerry to talk tough. Howard Dean talks tough. Has he ever gotten a shred of positive press? No. To the "mainstream" press, Howard is the angry, foot-in-mouth radical. Hillary Clinton's "plantation" comment? What did that get her?
Get a Clue. The Media Does Not Like Democrats Who Talk Tough. It Attacks Them. It is the not the job of Democratic candidates to Be Angry. That is the job of Democratic activists. And you don't get angry at your own candidates. You get angry at the mainstream media that "protected" the public from all the negative Iraq-related info that didn't come out until After the 2004 election was over. We activists knew what was going on -- but if we tried to say it, the mainstream treated us as if we were angry, irrational Bush-haters. And the voting public bought into it. So those few of us whose top priority was getting John Kerry elected got Smart -- we emphasized the pro-Kerry argument instead of just anti-Bush. Unfortunately, there weren't enough of us.
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Posted by: Greg Bacon on May 8, 2006 6:00 AM
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Finally, someone with enough cajones to speak truth to power confronted Georgie and his press lackeys.
IMHO, believe the press choose to ignore Colbert for two reasons:
1. Colbert callled the press on what they actually are, spineless. They didn't like the truth being tossed into their satiated faces.
2. They were also aghast that Colbert had the audacty, mind you, the audacity, to question his Majesty, King George.
That's a shock they'll never recover from.
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Keep "them" distracted, and, at all cost keep "them" misinformed.
Hitler knew, as some in the "Wanna be the Burning Bush" administration obviously do, that control of the Media is crucial, if they are to achieve their goals.
Judging by current events, and the "reporting" or lack therof, they would seem to have fairly successfully accomplished that.
Bless Stephen Colbert for having BIG BALLS, and the courage that it took to stand face to face with the "President" and tell it like it IS.
It's a real joke that there is any debate about the "good taste" of, or the relative Comedic merit of Stephen Colbert's lambasting of Bush.
Thankfully, He did not choose to simply amuse or distract the crowd, which seems mostly to be what the they were expecting.
Instead, to His credit, Colbert delivered messages that desperately need to be heard by the American people.
He spoke in plain language, which used to be the American way.
He spoke forcefully, which was necessary for his words to penetrate the thick skins of complacency.
President Bush hasn't evidently pissed enough people off YET to be Deposed.
One wonders, considering the number of major Domestic and International blunders made during the Bush administrations, and the staggering DEBTS that these actions have dumped on the shoulders of future generations of American citizens, what it WILL take to provoke America's consciousness to rise, and to begin to adress the real issues that face America, beginning with the removal of this administration
Hopefully Stephen Colbert's roasting of the President, and his administration will contiribute to that.
Someone commented on the Denial process in place within the Bush Government.
Bushees maintain a molecularly tight firewall, through which not one " discouraging word " can pass, otherwise, they could not believe in, or support and impose, their morally bankrupt agendas on the American people
The Bush administrations have shown consistent and total disrespect for the social principles which the Forefathers of America ( who would seem to have been moral men ) upheld as beliefs important enough to incorporate in their Declaration of America's intent to the World at the nation's Birthing.
LIFE has become tenuous for huge numbers of American citizens
America's LIBERTY has been replaced by Tyranny at home and abroad.
EQUALITY of America's citizens is demonstrated daily to be a sham.
America's PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS has been reduced to non-stop shopping.
America's, and , thereby American's FREEDOM, which was maintained by their Democratic process is being stolen from them, by men with evil intent .
EVEN the "decider", who has a statistically dismal record of "getting the message" HAD to hear Stephen Colbert's brilliantly delivered, and extremely inciteful words. ( especially since George was only a few feet away, with no bush or Bushee's to hide behind )
George, however, has repeatedly demonstrated that He would rather listen to a good story than the Truth...
George seems to be the inspiration for the quote " Although He got the Message, he was deaf to the News".
Rise up in Righteous Indignation America, and kick this sick and corrupt administration out of power!
Once you have removed them from power, Prosecute them for their crimes against the FREEDOM and the LIBERTY of Americans, ( not to mention the rest of the world
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Keep "them" distracted, and, at all cost keep "them" misinformed.
Hitler knew, as some in the "Wanna be the Burning Bush" administration obviously do, that control of the Media is crucial, if they are to achieve their goals.
Judging by current events, and the "reporting" or lack therof, they would seem to have fairly successfully accomplished that.
Bless Stephen Colbert for having BIG BALLS, and the courage that it took to stand face to face with the "President" and tell it like it IS.
It's a real joke that there is any debate about the "good taste" of, or the relative Comedic merit of Stephen Colbert's lambasting of Bush.
Thankfully, He did not choose to simply amuse or distract the crowd, which seems mostly to be what the they were expecting.
Instead, to His credit, Colbert delivered messages that desperately need to be heard by the American people.
He spoke in plain language, which used to be the American way.
He spoke forcefully, which was necessary for his words to penetrate the thick skins of complacency.
President Bush hasn't evidently pissed enough people off YET to be Deposed.
One wonders, considering the number of major Domestic and International blunders made during the Bush administrations, and the staggering DEBTS that these actions have dumped on the shoulders of future generations of American citizens, what it WILL take to provoke America's consciousness to rise, and to begin to adress the real issues that face America, beginning with the removal of this administration
Hopefully Stephen Colbert's roasting of the President, and his administration will contiribute to that.
Someone commented on the Denial process in place within the Bush Government.
Bushees maintain a molecularly tight firewall, through which not one " discouraging word " can pass, otherwise, they could not believe in, or support and impose, their morally bankrupt agendas on the American people
The Bush administrations have shown consistent and total disrespect for the social principles which the Forefathers of America ( who would seem to have been moral men ) upheld as beliefs important enough to incorporate in their Declaration of America's intent to the World at the nation's Birthing.
LIFE has become tenuous for huge numbers of American citizens
America's LIBERTY has been replaced by Tyranny at home and abroad.
EQUALITY of America's citizens is demonstrated daily to be a sham.
America's PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS has been reduced to non-stop shopping.
America's, and , thereby American's FREEDOM, which was maintained by their Democratic process is being stolen from them, by men with evil intent .
EVEN the "decider", who has a statistically dismal record of "getting the message" HAD to hear Stephen Colbert's brilliantly delivered, and extremely inciteful words. ( especially since George was only a few feet away, with no bush or Bushee's to hide behind )
George, however, has repeatedly demonstrated that He would rather listen to a good story than the Truth...
George seems to be the inspiration for the quote " Although He got the Message, he was deaf to the News".
Rise up in Righteous Indignation America, and kick this sick and corrupt administration out of power!
Once you have removed them from power, Prosecute them for their crimes against the FREEDOM and the LIBERTY of Americans, ( not to mention the rest of the world
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Posted by: cityofangelslady on May 9, 2006 9:23 PM
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What a gutsy guy, exactly what we need now to break through and start saying things like they really are.
He was so brave and said what we all wish we could say and right to BUsh's face.
You go, Bro, I love you.
Kay In L.A>
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by Fawn Lickspittle - Chicago Daily News
The concensus of London insiders is that Jonathan Swift's recent performance at Buckingham Palace was a bomb. His speech "A Modest Proposal" was pronounced "Not funny" by Byron Bloviator of the Los Angeles Times and" in rather poor taste" by Lise Logorrohea of the Washington Post.
The king was not amused, and is reliably reported to have asked rhetorically "Good heavens!, Is the man suggesting we should interfere with the free market in potatoes.? Unthinkable.!"
The New York Times Book Review section was disappointed at Swift's failure to make the transition from children's literature (Gulliver's Travels) to more adult fare and suggests that he confine himself to less weighty matter if he wants to succeed as an author.
Government spokesperson Karl Coprology suggests that Swift's denial of any financial interest in the scheme (*) was less than sincere. "Although Mr. Swift may not have any edible offspring, I think one should look at the financial records of the family in total." he said, in an exclusive interview granted to this reporter.
(*) "I profess, in the sincerity of my heart, that I have not the least personal interest in endeavoring to promote this necessary work, having no other motive than the public good of my country, by advancing our trade, providing for infants, relieving the poor, and giving some pleasure to the rich. I have no children by which I can propose to get a single penny; the youngest being nine years old, and my wife past child-bearing." was less
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Posted by: BJT on May 10, 2006 7:21 PM
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However, this article is wrong, wrong, wrong. We don't need a more leftward-leaning media. "Progressives" don't need bigger media voices. Progressives are every bit as statist as the neocons. If it is your goal to use government programs to solve problems, you are already in the wrong thinking. The way to free people and secure their prosperity, safety and health is to elimiate government interference, not propagate it.
What we really need are liberal voices in the classical sense. Don't understand classical liberalism? Then you don't understand what America was founded upon. Read about it at mises.org or hear about how to restore liberty to your own life from the recorded conference calls at sorce190.com. Do research at famguardian.org. Read Edward Griffin's "The Creature from Jekyll Island." Get clued in to the Liberty Dollar, and how to circumvent and abolish the Federal Reserve, the biggest source of problems in America today.
We need voices for LIMITED GOVERNMENT, NATURAL RIGHTS (civil rights can always be taken away!) and social and economic LIBERTY.
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