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Debunking Prewar Intelligence Falsehoods

By Andrew Seifter, Media Matters for America. Posted November 16, 2005.


Why the president's claims that 'everyone was mistaken' just aren't true; and the difference between pressure and manipulation.
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In recent days, conservatives have pushed two principal falsehoods -- echoed by President Bush in a November 11 speech and uncritically reported in mainstream news reports -- to rebut Democratic criticism that the White House manipulated intelligence to build the case for war in Iraq.

First, conservatives have claimed that the White House's Democratic critics saw the same intelligence as the Bush administration and similarly concluded that Iraq was a significant threat. Second, the administration's defenders have conflated two issues: whether the administration pressured intelligence analysts to produce intelligence supporting its case for war, and whether the administration manipulated or cherry-picked the intelligence it received.

By conflating the two questions in news reports, the media have advanced the Bush administration's line that several government inquiries have already cleared the administration of both pressuring intelligence agencies and manipulating intelligence. In fact, Media Matters for America has debunked each of these claims, documenting that:

  1. The White House had access to intelligence that was unavailable /mediamatters.org/items/200511080006> to Congress and began making claims about the Iraqi threat months before Congress received any substantial intelligence analysis; and;
  2. while several reports found that analysts felt no "pressure" from senior policy-makers in reaching their intelligence assessments -- a conclusion that has since been challenged by several senior intelligence officials -- no government entity has thus far investigated and reported /mediamatters.org/items/200511070005> on whether Bush administration officials manipulated that intelligence once they received it.

Falsehood #1: White House, congressional Dems saw "same intelligence"

When Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) forced the Senate into closed session November 2 and demanded a pledge that the Senate Intelligence Committee complete its investigation into whether the Bush administration manipulated intelligence in the run-up to the war, numerous White House officials and conservative media figures responded that both the White House and Congress possessed the same flawed reports and came to the same incorrect conclusions, as Media Matters has documented.

Since President Bush echoed the claim in a November 11 speech by asserting that "more than a hundred Democrats in the House and the Senate -- who had access to the same intelligence -- voted to support removing Saddam Hussein from power," it has been increasingly reported -- without correction -- in mainstream news reports.

For example, on the November 11 broadcast of ABC's World News Tonight, correspondent Jake Tapper uncritically reported that "the president charged critics with hypocrisy, saying many Democrats also believed the same intelligence reports that Saddam Hussein had a dangerous arsenal." Similarly, in a November 12 article, New York Times reporter Richard W. Stevenson also uncritically reported Bush's assertion that "the resolution authorizing the use of force [against Iraq] had been supported by more than 100 Democrats in the House and Senate based on the same information available to the White House."

But while Bush accused his critics in the speech of "rewrit[ing] the history of how that war began," it is those who are pushing the "same intelligence" argument who are engaging in revisionism. As Media Matters documented, the White House had access to intelligence assessments such as the Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB) that Congress never was able to review, and the administration failed to provide lawmakers with certain dissenting views within the intelligence community. The administration also received information directly from two alternative intelligence sources that were doubted by the Intelligence Community at the time and have since been discredited: The Office of Special Plans and Iraqi National Congress.


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Who Actually Believed Iraq was an Imminent Threat?
Posted by: decembrist on Nov 16, 2005 1:16 AM   
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Whether Bush pressured analysts or misstated the analyst's reports, it is totally and unequivocally clear that politics hand too much of a presence in the intelligence community.

I can remember when Iraq came on to the major news radar, which was the lead up to the invasion. I remember being puzzled and aking, "how the hell did Iraq all of a sudden get so important, haven't we continually and civilizedly bombed them into starvation?" I remember all the breathless predictions of Rice, Cheney, Bush, etc.

AND I REMEMBER THE WHOLE WORLD AND A HUGE PART OF AMERICA STANDING UP AND SAYING:

"HELL NO!!"

I also remember Bush's challenge: "You're either with us or against us."

It is incredibly clear that Bush, etc. wanted this war no matter what. These suited monkeys have thrown our people into a bloody and senseless conflict... and they have lied the whole way.

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They Lied
Posted by: Tom Degan on Nov 16, 2005 3:25 AM   
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It was obvious that in the weeks leading up to the stupidest foreign policy move in US history. Our half-wit president was determined to go to war no matter what the consequences, facts be damned. I'm sounding like a broken record, I know, but this lying, hideous bastard and his vice-president need to be removed from power NOW. What in the name of common sense is Congress waiting for?
Tom Degan
Goshen, NY

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» RE: They Lied Posted by: peacearmy
» RE: They Lied Posted by: woodford54
» RE: They Lied Posted by: Lonman
How many BJ's to kill one man?
Posted by: Major on Nov 16, 2005 6:44 AM   
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It is really, really sick that Republicans kept pressing for inquiries, leading to impeachment proceedings against President Clinton because of sexual misconduct, yet do nothing about the conduct of the present "Commander and Thief" when it comes to finding out the truth about the factors that led to the decision to go to war.The recent distortions from the president signify weakness of mind wrapped in the veneer of lies.
Martin Luther King said "One who condones evil is just as guilty as the one who perpetrates it." This applies to all who are silent an this matter. This applies specifically to all Republicans (and yes Democrats too) who still support the hollow reasonings of G.W and the uncritical press who allow this indecency of distortions to continue.
My questions to all Republicans are this :How many people died because of Clinton's affair with Lewinsky? You persecuted that to the Nth degree. How many BJ's does it take to kill one man? What is worth killing 2000+ Americans, plus thousands of Iraqi's (sorry, we don't count them 'cause they don't count)? Why so much noise about 1 affair, yet silence on thousands of deaths?

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Demand change in election laws
Posted by: Tom Holum on Nov 16, 2005 9:21 AM   
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A year ago, before and after the last national elections, many people rightly complained that the election results could never be relied upon with certainty because many (most?) states used electronic voting machines without a paper trail, making a meaningful re-count impossible.

It was said that a savy computer expert with access to a state's vote-counting computer program could change the results with a few key strokes and none would be the wiser, and so the whole election process lacked legitimacy, because the results couldn't be verified by comparison with a hard copy made at the same time as the computer input. (You probably remember that Deibold, who manufactured the election machines used by many states, was reported to have said he would do "whatever it took" to insure a Republican victory?)

Many people were calling for federal legislation requiring the use of voting machines with a reliable paper trail in all federal elections.

Well, a year has gone by and we've heard nothing further about any plans to rectify this problem. There's only a year left before the next mid-term congressional elections. Can we afford another stolen election? Can we afford another term of Congress being ruled by these lying neocons? Something has to be done NOW to insure the legitimacy of our elections.

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Democrats can't pretend intel distortion is unexpected
Posted by: ScottP on Nov 16, 2005 11:23 AM   
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I worked with DoD classified information from 1980-1993. I'll never do it again. At the start I swallowed the stuff whole. By the end I was getting pretty suspicious. Afterwards I did some of my own investigation, no clearance is needed to go talk to former members of the Russian Army living in the US, or people from the Middle East. I've come to recognize you don't need a clearance to discover the sky-is-falling intel reports are a combination of CYA analyst work (always mention any possible threat no matter how unlikely in case it proves true), distortions that happen during declassification and condensation, and just plain pumping up of the military industrial complex. Members of Congress claiming they couldn't have know this time, after seeing this pattern for at least 25 years, are just more lying politicians. Perhaps Dennis Kucinich had access to different intel than the others? Not likely. The Dem's who have supported (and continue to support) the lie are just opportunists.

Leave Iraq now!

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What Evidence?
Posted by: asque on Nov 16, 2005 12:21 PM   
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I thought that what Bush was presenting was the tip of a classified mountain of information-because it sure wasn't convincing. To find out that weak rumors were the only thing we had is very disturbing. We went to war based on evidence that could not even justify a suspension from school!

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The sad fact is...
Posted by: RevRick on Nov 16, 2005 4:05 PM   
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Allot of this information that is now being confirmed by declassified documents was available before Congress voted to authorize this travesty.

For example when Rice went in front of congress and said that we knew Saddam had purchased aluminum tubes that could only be used in centrifuges for making nuclear weapons; I and a lot of other posters here knew that there was considerable debate in the intelligence community over this “Fact”. However when Rice went before congress again she claimed that she was aware of some disagreement on the assessment of the intelligence, but she wasn’t aware of the substance of it I was shocked. How could I a union steward in Upstate NY be better informed than Bush’s NSA? That’s scary…

However the Democrats in congress are good at one thing and that knows the way the wind is blowing. Back then we were characterized by the media as the “Fringe Radical Left” who would make any outrageous claim about Bush just to damage him because we hated him and America so much. So the majority of Americans saw us as such, our protests weren’t publicized unless the police turned violent and then the embedded reporters characterized us as the trouble makers.

So the Democrats in Congress turned a deaf ear, they tried to take the batteries out of the smoke alarm instead of putting out the fire. Now the fire has gotten so bad that the public is starting to notice even without the corporate media pointing it out to them, and suddenly the Democrats are taking up the anti-war cry. Surprise, surprise.

However it’s been truly said that war makes strange bed fellows, so we should work with these Democrats for now. Then try our hardest to replace them in the Democratic primaries in 2006.

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I am not connected to anything.
Posted by: sgtmartin1 on Nov 16, 2005 4:52 PM   
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I have no sources. I have no spouse in intelligence. Nothing.

Nothing, that is, other than the same media outlets and "gut feeling" that the vast majority of the American public have to go on.

How is it that I didn't believe all the WMD hype? To be totally accurate I figured he had some, but they were probably in disrepair and certainly no threat to us. So I was a little surprised that they found absolutely nothing, but not at all surprised we are now in the grips on an insurgency and a couple of thousand of our troops have been killed in the process.

I know a lot of people that share this view, probably posters on this thread. It is ludicrous to suggest that "we were all wrong" as the president wants us to believe.

I wasn't wrong Mr. President. I thought this would be a Godawful mess and I didn't think you'd find anything to justify it.

Impeach the bastard.

New on EWM: Pentagon Caught Torturing Prisoners with Medicare Prescription Drug Benefit Applications
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Bozley
Posted by: Bozwell on Nov 16, 2005 4:53 PM   
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Way back...seems few remember, the true majority were NOT supporting the instigation of war..As the administration trotted out one talking head after another, each of the premises were disputed factually..Powell made that presentation and was immediately countered with the showing the source of the intel he presented , was from a UK STUDENT thesis that had been published a decade EARLIER..disputed, but none would allow such to be noticed ...White told of us of the first Cabinet meeting, none wanted to give him credence...Time after time the premises were shot down and dismantled and we DID wonder just why WE had info but our ELECTED folks said they did not have access to such...Most of them failed to bother with the volumes of emails and faxes which sent the sources for such to them to help make them aware...Tis why the Dems can get chastised and some of them even NOW, are saying they would STILL vote FOR handing over the war powers which allowed the instigation of this UNNECCESSARY COSTLY WAR even if they knew then all that has been revealed and glared up to now....HOW MANY MORE GET TO DIE FOR THEIR MISTAKES needs to be shouted from the rooftops ...until we get an answer and some actual, FACTUAL accountability as well as some capable helming!!!!!

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FIRE EVERY LAST ONE OF THE BASTARDS!!!!!!
Posted by: stoney13 on Nov 17, 2005 9:58 AM   
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If they voted for the Iraq war, and still say they would vote for the Iraq war, FIRE THEM!! If they support President Pork Pie in his litle adventure in the middle east, FIRE THEM!!!! Fire every last one of them!! If they support the hijacking of America's voting system by Diebold, FIRE THEM!!!!

Stalin said it best when he said "The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything."!!

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Are all of you novices to power politics?
Posted by: Conan the Younger on Nov 17, 2005 11:27 AM   
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Why Democrats voted to let Bush hang himself:
Many democratic office holders knew Bush's war drums were out of sync with information they were getting (including blogs) but decided they were not going to get caught by the neo-cons once again on the wrong side of national security debate. They also knew the US military is and was fully capable of destroying any foreign power, especially Saddam, without much trouble. However, Democrats knew the real test would be in the nation building after the major fighting was completed. The Democrats had watched, usually helplessly, for the 6 years leading up to Iraq 2, the Republicans disapprove or dismantle any nation building capability by our military. The Republican motto was "No US nation building, let the UN do it." So, the US military was totally unprepared to nation building because the UN was supposed to do it. When Bush went begging to the UN (after he had spent years pushing their faces in his crap) to do the dirty work, they said no, or at least, not on your terms. So, the US military is having to build a nation building capability on the fly which is the most expensive, in lives and money, there is.
The Democrats also knew they could not stop Bush after he had done such a brilliant job of wrapping the US flag (drenched in the blood of the 9-11 victims) around himself. Since the Democrats are not into political suicide, they decided to give Bush enough rope to hang himself and he has. I don't think the Democrats were expecting it to happen so soon and so fast. They would have preferred it to happen in summer of 2006, right before the elections so that Bush and the neo-cons could not react in time to rectify the situation. But they are now responding to the situation. Reid's shutting down of the Senate was the first round of many.

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Are all of you novices to power politics? Part 2
Posted by: Conan the Younger on Nov 17, 2005 11:29 AM   
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Why Bush is right when he says he did not lie to the American people.
Cheney, Rumfeld, Wolfowitz, and Rice have given Bush "plausible deniability" by not telling him anymore than he can handle of the true situation that was developing just before the war started. Up to six months before the war started, the CIA was operating off of intelligence that was two to five years old. They had lost track of Iraqi capabilities and never really knew Iraqi intent. When Saddam allowed UN inspectors back in at the behest of his generals and scientists, the CIA thought they could confirm all of their old intelligence by analyzing the UN inspectors' reports and from their people inside the inspector group. And it would show the world they knew what they were talking about. However, as the CIA directed the inspectors to one site after another and found nothing, the CIA began to reassess their own intelligence analysis. There was a suspicion that a psy-ops program done during the Clinton administration may have worked. [This program's purpose was to inform all the generals and scientists working for Saddam that if a WMD was EVER USED AGAINST the US or its ALLIES, they would be personally held responsible. And since they were not protected by the assassination of head of state directive, they would be assassinated along with their families and friends. The idea was that if you happen to be having dinner with your family and friends when the precision guided 2000 lb bomb arrived with your name on it that was your problem. Saddam may not have known that his entire WMD programs and arsenals had disappeared while he was not looking.] This is where Cheney came into the picture. He did NOT want any hints that Saddam had or was complying with UN orders. By casting doubts on the new analysis, Cheney was able to keep the pre-inspection analysis valid until after the war was started. There are suspicions the pre-emptive cruise missile strike before the war was planned to start was really a successful attempt to preempt any changes in the intelligence on why we started the war. The CIA had become a hotbed of resentment against the White House until Bush put his own man in there. It also explains why the CIA was so fast on the trigger on the Plame leak.

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Are all of you novices to power politics? Part 3
Posted by: Conan the Younger on Nov 17, 2005 11:30 AM   
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It was not enough that old "Clinton administration era" intelligence was being used, there had to be "new" intelligence. This is Rumfeld, Richard Pearl, Chalabi (of Iraqi National Congress fame and DOD choice to be the new President of Iraq), and Wolfowitz's area of operations. If a bit of intelligence was needed, say mobile bio-chemical warfare labs, Wolfowitz would let Pearl know what was needed. Pearl would go to his good friend, Chalabi, and Chalabi would find a suitable family member who would present himself to the Office of Special Plans in the Defense Dept as an intelligence source. This “cooked” intelligence would then be mixed in with other CIA and NSA analysis and presented to Bush as “good” intelligence. This way, Bush can say with a straight face that he did not lie to the American people and Congress. Bush learned this cute “clueless CEO” trick from his good buddy and close friend, Ken Lay of Enron fame.

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