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A recent piece in the New York Post by John Mainelli states that, "Air America is in ... bad financial shape." On Sept. 20, Bill O'Reilly on Fox News which, like the New York Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation said that Air America "could be on its last legs."
This is untrue. Air America is in strong financial shape. Last week we started broadcasting from our new multi-million dollar studios.
Several weeks earlier the Board of Directors of Air America's parent company accelerated re-payment of a loan from the Gloria Wise Boys and Girls Club of $875,000 two years in advance of a previously agreed upon repayment plan. In the last several months, Air America has expanded its executive team to augment our efforts on the internet and in affiliate relations.
The pretext for the latest smears is an initiative I launched last week called Air America Associates, in which I asked our listeners to support our programming financially and at various levels offer bumper stickers, tote bags, etc. as a way of thanking them. (We received thousands of responses, far beyond what we projected for the first few days).
Many of our listeners also listen to NPR stations and Pacifica and are used to supporting radio programming they like. I got the idea from the Nation Magazine's program, "The Nation Associates," which helps them fund investigative journalism. Like Air America Radio, The Nation is a for-profit company.
But the conservative propagandists have tried to make it seem like there is something unseemly because Air America Radio is both commercial-and a radio network, as O'Reilly said last night, "I have never seen a commercial enterprise ask their listeners for money-ever." This is also false. The modern model of the broadcasting business involves numerous revenue streams. If anything, Air America has been late in fully building such an infrastructure which the "Associates" is a part of.
For example, Rush Limbaugh's website offers his fans the "Limbaugh Letter" for $34.95 a year and a totally separate service called Rush 24/7 which includes access to archived programs at the cost of $49.95 a year. The Limbaugh site also features the "EIB Store" which sells such items as $19.95 polo shirt which amusingly says, "My Mullah went to G'itmo and all I got was this lousy T-shirt."
The Sean Hannity Web-site features a "subscription" to something called, "The Hannity Insider" for $5.95 a month.
But no one tops the self proclaimed non-spinner Bill O'Reilly. Bill O'Reilly.com offers a "premium membership" for either $4.95 a month or $49.95 a year. He also offers a "Gift certificate" for $14.95. Products for sale on the Web site include:
- Radio Factor diner coffee mug available in white or navy blue for $14.95
- O'Reilly Factor keychain for $7.95 "while supplies last."
- Three different "No Spin" tote bags at $14.95 apiece
- Ten different hats at a cost of $16.95 each
- The "no spin" jacket for $79.95
- The " Unisex Black Fleece" embroidered with "The Spin Stops Here" for $39.95
- Several bumper stickers including one that reads "Boycott France" for $2.50
- License plate frame for $18.95
- Three different "No Spin" tote bags at $14.95 each
- An O'Reilly Factor Gear Bag at $64.95
- "Mens Garment Bag" for $64.95 (sorry ladies!)
- A "Spin Stops Here" organizer briefcase
- A "Spin Stops Here" pen and pad bundle for $19.95
- Two different designs of "Spin Stops Here" doormats for $49.95 and
- Two different "Rain Stops Here" umbrellas at $24.95("Show everyone who protects you from the rain")
Mainelli's article also repeated another falsehood about Air America saying "More recently the 70 station left network has been suffering lower ratings." His corporate cousin O'Reilly wishfully stated on August 17 said "Air America-nobody is listening to it," On Aug 3rd O'Reilly claimed that "Air America cannot support itself because of low ratings," and on July 26 O'Reilly said "The Air America radio network continues to fail with catastrophic ratings here in New York City. "
In fact, the ratings for the Bill O'Reilly radio show in New York were worse than those on Air America that he described as "catastrophic" In the key 25 to 54 year demographic which talk radio offers to advertisers, the Spring, 2005 Arbitron ratings showed that Monday to Friday from 2 to 4 PM when O'Reilly is on WOR-AM and which at Air America's 1190 WLIB-AM contains the last hour of "The Al Franken Show" and the first hour of "The Randi Rhodes Show," that O'Reilly had a .3 share and Air America a .4 share. O'Reilly had a cumulative audience of 75,400 and Air America had a cumulative audience of 89,300.
Inevitably ratings go up and down and vary from time slot to time slot and from market to market. Right wing bloggers have had fun cherry picking isolated pieces of ratings reports to distort the enormous enthusiasm Air America's growing audience has demonstrated. At the vast majority of our affiliates Air America ratings are up. On a nation-wide basis the most recent Arbitron ratings Spring 2005 book showed that our affiliates reach over three million people per week each of whom listens for an average of several hours a week. This is more than triple the amount of people who were listening when measured one year earlier in the Spring, 2004 book.
I do not intend to write something every time something like this happens. In the almost six months during which I have been CEO of Air America Radio, I have refrained, for the most part, from responding to the litany of attacks, lies, half-truths and smears from various members of the right-wing media. In general, it seems to me that paying too much attention to these people only encourages them and that we, at Air America, need to get used to the fact that the spirited progressive opinions of our on-air talent and of our audience will attract the kind of mean-spirited smears that are endemic to contemporary political conversation.
After having a near monopoly on talk radio for so many years, some conservative media types are literally freaked out at confronting robust, persistent and passionate opposition. On Sept. 26, O'Reilly desperately claimed that "Air America's basic flaw is that "Americans do not want to hear that their country sucks 24 hours a day." Of course the talent and management of Air America have a love of our country which is what animates all passionate debate on political issues form the left, right and center.
It is an obsession with stifling debate --even at the cost of using lies and distortions, which is un-American.
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Posted by: clarasam on Sep 30, 2005 4:30 AM
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The problem with Air America is that it's more of a shrill....one giant complaint department. There's suffering in the world.....so we can't feel good about ourselves or our own lives.
I guess it's perfect for liberals and progressives.
Good luck to them.....they're going to need it.
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Posted by: roygib on Sep 30, 2005 5:26 AM
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I'm guessing part of the problem is that apparantly a station must buy into the entire AA package, turning their whole format over.
I have noticed that recently AA added Thom Hartman as a syndicated show and I would encourage them to syndicate other single programs. I'm sure there are a number of stations that would like to go head to head with Rush or Hannity, but still ave their own local programming for the bulk of the day. C'mon AA, 70 stations nationwide is still pretty weak.
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Someone help me understand this I really am missing something. If you would like to respond personally my e-mail address is: aedwardsone@yahoo.com
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Posted by: Uncle Crabby on Sep 30, 2005 7:03 AM
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Fortunately for people with brains, Air America’s product cycle is new, fresh, and its graph leans in the opposite direction. We can continue to enjoy watching Air America succeed. It will gain listeners. It may very well wake up a small number of cattle currently being herded by Fascist Radio, but I don’t hold my breath.
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Posted by: david.model@senecac.on.ca on Sep 30, 2005 7:08 AM
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The point is that by responding to O'Reilly you are dignifying his comments. His audience is so small and probably ideologically comfortable with the man who is "full of sound and fury signifying nothing" that it seems pointless to waste the time refuting his trashy, outrageous prevarifications. It probably gives him satisfaction to know that serious broadcasters are even paying attention to him.
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Posted by: bambic on Sep 30, 2005 8:40 AM
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It's carried on NPR in many major cities on Sunday morning, or you can go to Harry Shearer.com and check out the archives.
The man is brilliant---his best bit is called "Rush to Recovery".
Genius.
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Posted by: AdamSelene11726 on Sep 30, 2005 9:18 AM
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It's not only that "there's no such thing as bad press" ... it's that these two reach the exact audience Air America wants to attract and convince -- "People voting against their own interest" -- Red voters who work for a living.
Personally, I find Franken, Rhodes and Springer just slightly more intresting than NPR's daytime Kultur Korner features -- and only very slightly slightly to th left of NPR's "Marketplace."
But that's OK. They're not performing for ME. They're there for the "only mildly pissed of whitish guys" who think they're Conservative and Patriotic, who might possibly be persuaded that BushCo is NOT.
At most, the Democrats only need to pick up 2 or 3% of the vote in the Red States, to in back the Sentate and the White House. Pandering to the hard core ultra left -- which isn't voting Republican anyway -- isn't going to accomplish that.
But Liberal message that soft-Right listeners can stomach for 15 minutes at a time. That might accomplish something.
Then, after 7PM, the stuff I like goes on the air.
Fair enough.
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Posted by: davidt on Sep 30, 2005 9:31 AM
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Think about this. Conslurvatives are talking about AAR after less than a year of broadcasting. They have dominated the airwaves for 20 years without a countervailing peep. The time factor is very relevant here.
FOX news is losing its viewership rapidly. If you caught the Media Forum hosted by John Conyers on C-SPAN, Randi Rhodes testified that is it down by 46%, that ain't peanuts folks! In other words:
They are SSSSCCCCCCAAAARRRRREEEEEEEEDDDDDDD!!!!!
and they should be. People are waking up to the fact the main media outlets are just stooges for the Bush Regime and the reason that it is sinking in is two-fold--BLOOD & MONEY.
Now I will ask you that famous question that Reagan asked just prior to his deleterious ascendancy:
'Are you better off after 4.5 years of BushInc than you were before they were Selected into office?"
If you are--you have to be a member of the elite superrich who are receiving everything that BushInc can deliver for you. By the way, every single one of the SLURVES who uses the old brickbat of elitist liberal is a member of the elite superrich, think about it and then prove me wrong.
If you are a child, working man or woman, mother, senior citizen, parent, student or VETERAN you are now or are soon to be targeted to PAY for all of the bills that the BushInc regime are running up at an astronomical rate.
You are paying through the nose for their tax cuts, look into a nice little beartrap called the Alternative Minimum Tax, wage-earners in the middle-class--that includes young Christian Evangelicals with families--are going to be "selected" to bear the brunt of this usury. With the new powers that were handed to the MBNA and others in the Bankruptcy bill of 2005, Chapter 11 umbrella techniques will soon feel like quicksand. The superrich won't feel a thing.
Now, if you like BushInc & what they are doing to you please send me your address and I will send you bills that I don't feel like paying.
'Preciateit.
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A "Talk Dirty to Me, Billy" phone with 13 harrassment phrases, $14.95
A personally-autographed Loofa, new $5.95, ...used, $29.95
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Posted by: esactun on Sep 30, 2005 1:53 PM
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I was quite annoyed by that. At least they are filling the slot with a liberal-ish local host to attempt to counter-balance all the right-wing bloviating on the rest of their airtime.
This is no way discounts the message of this article. I'm actually glad to have read this because my liberal self had been getting the idea that AA was slowly tanking. I'm glad to hear it's not true.
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Posted by: liberal elite on Sep 30, 2005 1:58 PM
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I loved your enumeration of O'Reilly's web store.
I love Air America and listen to it every day!
Mark Marin and Mark Reilly are no. 1
Mike Malloy -- I would never miss a show
Randi--she's the most intelligent person on the air
Robert Kennedy, Mike Papp, Rachel Maddow and Laura Flanders!
Oh, yeah, and Al Franken ...
WOR and WABC are scared to death!
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Posted by: kelly.nickell on Sep 30, 2005 4:43 PM
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I just drove from Tampa to Santa Cruz via a series of interstates and back roads and it is truly hard to find AA in most of the areas I have covered in the 48,000 miles traveled in my last year. My average drive is between 1,000 and 3,000 miles; that's plenty of time to try to find something to listen to. Fact is, most of it is any bonehead with an opinion or burr under the saddle, placed in a locale with a microphone that works like a lollipop; some really good stuff in Texas just this last week - Joe Six Pack Consurlatives of the most surly sort. I wonder who cleans the things when they are done? - I digress. These blivits (A blivit is ten pounds of shit in a five pound bag) reside in virtually every corner of every state I've traveled through - why?
Because it is easy to be fat, drunk and stupid; witness our three, four and five letter named lamp shade wearers - Ann, Rush, Bush, Billy; add some more letters and get much less relevance in the blivit - say a Hannity and a limp liberal punching bag named Colmes, and the comedy is ripe for the pickin. It has moved from surreal into absurd.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, but we are sure giving it a run for the money. Good luck to AA; may I soon find you on an FM dial on say, KPIG - Freedom, CA, and perhaps find AA of another sort in a local meeting room to cure me of another bad habit cultivated over the prior five years of my disastrous life to ease the pain of a shrub growing in Washington, watered by the right, soon to be poisoned and removed by the left. God I hope so. Deo Volente.
Howdy to Oly, Bogey, Cyclone, Colin, Sojourner, and many others than have listened to me rant. I am now on the left coast for a while. The right coast was to damn hot. And a special twist of the shank to Toilet Boy. May Rush enter your mind and set you free; or not.
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Posted by: Jdog on Sep 30, 2005 11:32 PM
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It's just a nice break and, unlike Pacifica and NPR, Air America probably draws in Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, and O'Reilly listeners whose views may change when they're presented with actual facts...
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Posted by: marxalot on Oct 1, 2005 5:28 AM
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I wish we could all avoid accusing each other of being 'un-American.' It dilutes the thrust of our arguments and has no real meaning.
If you mean by that, 'anti-American,' then please remember that it is always a crime to be anti-regime in any dictatorship. The right may be insensitive and boorish but they are not anti-American.
If you mean dishonorable (which would seem to fit) then just say dishonorable. O'Reilly and Co. certainly are that.
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Posted by: aedwards on Oct 1, 2005 4:34 PM
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Posted by: kryptx on Oct 1, 2005 6:11 PM
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That said, I can't stand Randi Rhodes or Al Franken. My local "progressive" (AM 760, Boulder) carries Ed Schultz, who is tolerable. On the right, and as a rightie (might even be a "neo-con", depending on your definition) I have an equal distaste for Hannity and Limbaugh. Haven't really listened to O'Reilly. I just feel like the hosts have to oppose everything on the other side, no matter what. It seems unreasonable to think that everybody on side A is right about everything and everybody on side B is wrong about everything, so when I find hosts who seem to at least consider both sides I continue listening. The only hosts I've found that actually defend the other side and/or provide reasoning for what they're saying are Ed Schultz and Dennis Prager.
Those two aside, talk radio is just a pile of propagandists spewing partisan rhetoric, and Randi is at the top of the list.
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Posted by: Michael Turnauer, Vancouver,WA on Oct 2, 2005 10:05 PM
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Mr. Goldberg cites the merchandise and optional subscriptions offered by Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, and others in defending his Associates program. Does Air America also not sell logo and insignia-emblasoned merchandise? The email I received also mentions that Air America will be launching paid services of its own. Please explain to me again how seeking financial support from its listeners as a for profit venture is not unique at least in radio broadcast? Can Mr. Goldberg specifically cite what commercial enterprise(s) has (have) sought money from listeners prior to Air America because nothing in his statement can be construed as evidence refuting Bill O'Reilly's assertion. This is a huge diversion from discussing the merits or implications of a commercial radio venture seeking listener financial support.
As a listener who finds himself routing for the rousing financial and ratings sucess of Air America I cannot see how this article is nothing more than wild spin on the part of Mr. Goldberg, perhaps to shore up confidence with investors and affiliates. I wish Air America the best of luck but there is no way I will outlay money for this or any commercial entity where I was not getting a piece of ownership (like, you know, stock) in return. I'll happily support NPR, on the other hand, with no such expectations.
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Posted by: sourpuss on Oct 4, 2005 5:55 PM
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I apprieciate Al Franken doin' his part to save our country, but the guys on "Morning Sedition" are actually fun to listen to, we should hear more from them. They should get a better time slot cuz they know how to do radio and they blast a progressive message wherever they are heard. We need more than just spokes folks, we need radio stars who will capture an audiennce!
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Posted by: pozart on Oct 12, 2005 9:37 AM
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His corporate masters must have changed his tune during the ramp up to the 2004 elections.
Publicizing this would likely prove to be very embarassing to him and Fox.
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Posted by: clarasam on Sep 30, 2005 4:30 AM
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The problem with Air America is that it's more of a shrill....one giant complaint department. There's suffering in the world.....so we can't feel good about ourselves or our own lives.
I guess it's perfect for liberals and progressives.
Good luck to them.....they're going to need it.
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I'm guessing part of the problem is that apparantly a station must buy into the entire AA package, turning their whole format over.
I have noticed that recently AA added Thom Hartman as a syndicated show and I would encourage them to syndicate other single programs. I'm sure there are a number of stations that would like to go head to head with Rush or Hannity, but still ave their own local programming for the bulk of the day. C'mon AA, 70 stations nationwide is still pretty weak.
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Someone help me understand this I really am missing something. If you would like to respond personally my e-mail address is: aedwardsone@yahoo.com
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Fortunately for people with brains, Air America’s product cycle is new, fresh, and its graph leans in the opposite direction. We can continue to enjoy watching Air America succeed. It will gain listeners. It may very well wake up a small number of cattle currently being herded by Fascist Radio, but I don’t hold my breath.
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The point is that by responding to O'Reilly you are dignifying his comments. His audience is so small and probably ideologically comfortable with the man who is "full of sound and fury signifying nothing" that it seems pointless to waste the time refuting his trashy, outrageous prevarifications. It probably gives him satisfaction to know that serious broadcasters are even paying attention to him.
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Posted by: bambic on Sep 30, 2005 8:40 AM
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It's carried on NPR in many major cities on Sunday morning, or you can go to Harry Shearer.com and check out the archives.
The man is brilliant---his best bit is called "Rush to Recovery".
Genius.
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Posted by: AdamSelene11726 on Sep 30, 2005 9:18 AM
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It's not only that "there's no such thing as bad press" ... it's that these two reach the exact audience Air America wants to attract and convince -- "People voting against their own interest" -- Red voters who work for a living.
Personally, I find Franken, Rhodes and Springer just slightly more intresting than NPR's daytime Kultur Korner features -- and only very slightly slightly to th left of NPR's "Marketplace."
But that's OK. They're not performing for ME. They're there for the "only mildly pissed of whitish guys" who think they're Conservative and Patriotic, who might possibly be persuaded that BushCo is NOT.
At most, the Democrats only need to pick up 2 or 3% of the vote in the Red States, to in back the Sentate and the White House. Pandering to the hard core ultra left -- which isn't voting Republican anyway -- isn't going to accomplish that.
But Liberal message that soft-Right listeners can stomach for 15 minutes at a time. That might accomplish something.
Then, after 7PM, the stuff I like goes on the air.
Fair enough.
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Posted by: davidt on Sep 30, 2005 9:31 AM
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Think about this. Conslurvatives are talking about AAR after less than a year of broadcasting. They have dominated the airwaves for 20 years without a countervailing peep. The time factor is very relevant here.
FOX news is losing its viewership rapidly. If you caught the Media Forum hosted by John Conyers on C-SPAN, Randi Rhodes testified that is it down by 46%, that ain't peanuts folks! In other words:
They are SSSSCCCCCCAAAARRRRREEEEEEEEDDDDDDD!!!!!
and they should be. People are waking up to the fact the main media outlets are just stooges for the Bush Regime and the reason that it is sinking in is two-fold--BLOOD & MONEY.
Now I will ask you that famous question that Reagan asked just prior to his deleterious ascendancy:
'Are you better off after 4.5 years of BushInc than you were before they were Selected into office?"
If you are--you have to be a member of the elite superrich who are receiving everything that BushInc can deliver for you. By the way, every single one of the SLURVES who uses the old brickbat of elitist liberal is a member of the elite superrich, think about it and then prove me wrong.
If you are a child, working man or woman, mother, senior citizen, parent, student or VETERAN you are now or are soon to be targeted to PAY for all of the bills that the BushInc regime are running up at an astronomical rate.
You are paying through the nose for their tax cuts, look into a nice little beartrap called the Alternative Minimum Tax, wage-earners in the middle-class--that includes young Christian Evangelicals with families--are going to be "selected" to bear the brunt of this usury. With the new powers that were handed to the MBNA and others in the Bankruptcy bill of 2005, Chapter 11 umbrella techniques will soon feel like quicksand. The superrich won't feel a thing.
Now, if you like BushInc & what they are doing to you please send me your address and I will send you bills that I don't feel like paying.
'Preciateit.
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A "Talk Dirty to Me, Billy" phone with 13 harrassment phrases, $14.95
A personally-autographed Loofa, new $5.95, ...used, $29.95
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I was quite annoyed by that. At least they are filling the slot with a liberal-ish local host to attempt to counter-balance all the right-wing bloviating on the rest of their airtime.
This is no way discounts the message of this article. I'm actually glad to have read this because my liberal self had been getting the idea that AA was slowly tanking. I'm glad to hear it's not true.
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Posted by: liberal elite on Sep 30, 2005 1:58 PM
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I loved your enumeration of O'Reilly's web store.
I love Air America and listen to it every day!
Mark Marin and Mark Reilly are no. 1
Mike Malloy -- I would never miss a show
Randi--she's the most intelligent person on the air
Robert Kennedy, Mike Papp, Rachel Maddow and Laura Flanders!
Oh, yeah, and Al Franken ...
WOR and WABC are scared to death!
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Posted by: kelly.nickell on Sep 30, 2005 4:43 PM
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I just drove from Tampa to Santa Cruz via a series of interstates and back roads and it is truly hard to find AA in most of the areas I have covered in the 48,000 miles traveled in my last year. My average drive is between 1,000 and 3,000 miles; that's plenty of time to try to find something to listen to. Fact is, most of it is any bonehead with an opinion or burr under the saddle, placed in a locale with a microphone that works like a lollipop; some really good stuff in Texas just this last week - Joe Six Pack Consurlatives of the most surly sort. I wonder who cleans the things when they are done? - I digress. These blivits (A blivit is ten pounds of shit in a five pound bag) reside in virtually every corner of every state I've traveled through - why?
Because it is easy to be fat, drunk and stupid; witness our three, four and five letter named lamp shade wearers - Ann, Rush, Bush, Billy; add some more letters and get much less relevance in the blivit - say a Hannity and a limp liberal punching bag named Colmes, and the comedy is ripe for the pickin. It has moved from surreal into absurd.
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, but we are sure giving it a run for the money. Good luck to AA; may I soon find you on an FM dial on say, KPIG - Freedom, CA, and perhaps find AA of another sort in a local meeting room to cure me of another bad habit cultivated over the prior five years of my disastrous life to ease the pain of a shrub growing in Washington, watered by the right, soon to be poisoned and removed by the left. God I hope so. Deo Volente.
Howdy to Oly, Bogey, Cyclone, Colin, Sojourner, and many others than have listened to me rant. I am now on the left coast for a while. The right coast was to damn hot. And a special twist of the shank to Toilet Boy. May Rush enter your mind and set you free; or not.
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It's just a nice break and, unlike Pacifica and NPR, Air America probably draws in Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, and O'Reilly listeners whose views may change when they're presented with actual facts...
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I wish we could all avoid accusing each other of being 'un-American.' It dilutes the thrust of our arguments and has no real meaning.
If you mean by that, 'anti-American,' then please remember that it is always a crime to be anti-regime in any dictatorship. The right may be insensitive and boorish but they are not anti-American.
If you mean dishonorable (which would seem to fit) then just say dishonorable. O'Reilly and Co. certainly are that.
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That said, I can't stand Randi Rhodes or Al Franken. My local "progressive" (AM 760, Boulder) carries Ed Schultz, who is tolerable. On the right, and as a rightie (might even be a "neo-con", depending on your definition) I have an equal distaste for Hannity and Limbaugh. Haven't really listened to O'Reilly. I just feel like the hosts have to oppose everything on the other side, no matter what. It seems unreasonable to think that everybody on side A is right about everything and everybody on side B is wrong about everything, so when I find hosts who seem to at least consider both sides I continue listening. The only hosts I've found that actually defend the other side and/or provide reasoning for what they're saying are Ed Schultz and Dennis Prager.
Those two aside, talk radio is just a pile of propagandists spewing partisan rhetoric, and Randi is at the top of the list.
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Mr. Goldberg cites the merchandise and optional subscriptions offered by Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, and others in defending his Associates program. Does Air America also not sell logo and insignia-emblasoned merchandise? The email I received also mentions that Air America will be launching paid services of its own. Please explain to me again how seeking financial support from its listeners as a for profit venture is not unique at least in radio broadcast? Can Mr. Goldberg specifically cite what commercial enterprise(s) has (have) sought money from listeners prior to Air America because nothing in his statement can be construed as evidence refuting Bill O'Reilly's assertion. This is a huge diversion from discussing the merits or implications of a commercial radio venture seeking listener financial support.
As a listener who finds himself routing for the rousing financial and ratings sucess of Air America I cannot see how this article is nothing more than wild spin on the part of Mr. Goldberg, perhaps to shore up confidence with investors and affiliates. I wish Air America the best of luck but there is no way I will outlay money for this or any commercial entity where I was not getting a piece of ownership (like, you know, stock) in return. I'll happily support NPR, on the other hand, with no such expectations.
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I apprieciate Al Franken doin' his part to save our country, but the guys on "Morning Sedition" are actually fun to listen to, we should hear more from them. They should get a better time slot cuz they know how to do radio and they blast a progressive message wherever they are heard. We need more than just spokes folks, we need radio stars who will capture an audiennce!
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His corporate masters must have changed his tune during the ramp up to the 2004 elections.
Publicizing this would likely prove to be very embarassing to him and Fox.
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