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Right-Wing Media Gets Desperate

By Danny Goldberg, Huffington Post. Posted September 30, 2005.


Business is booming at Air America; so Limbaugh and O'Reilly have started spreading lies about the network's looming bellyflop.
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Recently, Air America Radio came under attack from the same cast of right-wing media characters who have attacked the network for ideological reasons from day one.

A recent piece in the New York Post by John Mainelli states that, "Air America is in ... bad financial shape." On Sept. 20, Bill O'Reilly on Fox News which, like the New York Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation said that Air America "could be on its last legs."

This is untrue. Air America is in strong financial shape. Last week we started broadcasting from our new multi-million dollar studios.

Several weeks earlier the Board of Directors of Air America's parent company accelerated re-payment of a loan from the Gloria Wise Boys and Girls Club of $875,000 two years in advance of a previously agreed upon repayment plan. In the last several months, Air America has expanded its executive team to augment our efforts on the internet and in affiliate relations.

The pretext for the latest smears is an initiative I launched last week called Air America Associates, in which I asked our listeners to support our programming financially and at various levels offer bumper stickers, tote bags, etc. as a way of thanking them. (We received thousands of responses, far beyond what we projected for the first few days).

Many of our listeners also listen to NPR stations and Pacifica and are used to supporting radio programming they like. I got the idea from the Nation Magazine's program, "The Nation Associates," which helps them fund investigative journalism. Like Air America Radio, The Nation is a for-profit company.

But the conservative propagandists have tried to make it seem like there is something unseemly because Air America Radio is both commercial-and a radio network, as O'Reilly said last night, "I have never seen a commercial enterprise ask their listeners for money-ever." This is also false. The modern model of the broadcasting business involves numerous revenue streams. If anything, Air America has been late in fully building such an infrastructure which the "Associates" is a part of.

For example, Rush Limbaugh's website offers his fans the "Limbaugh Letter" for $34.95 a year and a totally separate service called Rush 24/7 which includes access to archived programs at the cost of $49.95 a year. The Limbaugh site also features the "EIB Store" which sells such items as $19.95 polo shirt which amusingly says, "My Mullah went to G'itmo and all I got was this lousy T-shirt."

The Sean Hannity Web-site features a "subscription" to something called, "The Hannity Insider" for $5.95 a month.

But no one tops the self proclaimed non-spinner Bill O'Reilly. Bill O'Reilly.com offers a "premium membership" for either $4.95 a month or $49.95 a year. He also offers a "Gift certificate" for $14.95. Products for sale on the Web site include:

  • Radio Factor diner coffee mug available in white or navy blue for $14.95
  • O'Reilly Factor keychain for $7.95 "while supplies last."
  • Three different "No Spin" tote bags at $14.95 apiece
  • Ten different hats at a cost of $16.95 each
  • The "no spin" jacket for $79.95
  • The " Unisex Black Fleece" embroidered with "The Spin Stops Here" for $39.95
  • Several bumper stickers including one that reads "Boycott France" for $2.50
  • License plate frame for $18.95
  • Three different "No Spin" tote bags at $14.95 each
  • An O'Reilly Factor Gear Bag at $64.95

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Posted by: Word Lackey on Sep 30, 2005 1:25 AM   
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I wish I listened to Air America more. I do often catch The Al Franken Show on Sundance (or is it IFC?) It is well worth paying for a network like Air America.

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drew
Posted by: drew on Sep 30, 2005 2:12 AM   
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Air america's audience, unlike the right's, has much latent, un tapped interest and associated room to grow. Youj still need to get the word out locally. I have talked to a number of people who were interested but unaware that it is available in our area. Also i would note that i live in the country and the radio stations that carry it are somewhat underpowered. with dimball coming across clearly and static occurs listening to Franken, that is more than a metaphor of the current political situation- it is also limiting to listening.

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» RE: drew Posted by: DA
rickb-Boston
Posted by: rickb on Sep 30, 2005 4:00 AM   
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These right wingers are ridiculous. I used to listen to a local "rww" (right wing wacko) on a Boston FM station simply because he was erudite, intelligent and generally well spoken, true rarities in the talk world. (He was also wrong most of the time...but that's a story for another time)...I now listen to AirAmerica whenever I have the opportunity. My major complaint is the "AM" only availability. I hate that sound and am hopeful they will add an FM station. It is a tough sell to get people to listen to stations with such poor power and mediocre reception. Hope that changes soon...the growth curve will go straight up !

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» RE: rickb-Boston Posted by: Gma1
» RE: rickb-Boston Posted by: debedb
Talk radio......
Posted by: clarasam on Sep 30, 2005 4:30 AM   
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....is bombastic. The hosts have to be over the top.....or else they won't be on for long. Radio has always been dramatic and in your face......er...ears. Rush is no different than sports talk radio....or some so-called therapists.

The problem with Air America is that it's more of a shrill....one giant complaint department. There's suffering in the world.....so we can't feel good about ourselves or our own lives.
I guess it's perfect for liberals and progressives.

Good luck to them.....they're going to need it.

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Thank You Danny
Posted by: placid on Sep 30, 2005 5:00 AM   
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I have been hearing the rightwing blowhards "vomit" up this trash about Air America just a bit too much. And as much I dislike it, I will "crossover" to listen to Billy,the leprechan and the druggy .It seems the more the "three amigos" are exposed by the Air America hosts the angrier they have become NOT mention the THUGS fom the bottom up being exposed that essentially provide "righty" talking points the angrier they become. Of course they, as well as well as others: Michael Savage(who in my opinion ,lives up to that cute last name) and his obscene hatefulness, to President Reagan's son MICHAEL(NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH RON ) , my city's (Portland, Or)own Lars Larson (which agree or not, no one has tha right to threaten his wife so he does pack heat-Not a progressive I am sure but sick MFer who needs psychiatric care),Laura Ingalls(SP? I don't listen to her except here and there and the dear, dear Ann Colter who I have seen "toasted" on the air...new show ,perhaps," Rehab with Rush and Laura " and the sound alike cadences of Billy , a local Seattle rightie mouth piece so obscure at 1:00a.m. I can't recall his name. The night I listened he was preceeded by one maybe two progressives-his letter to me (form) I am sure , was arrogant and naive.....look for them, all of them to continue to amp up the Air America cuts ,distortion and lies as the arrogant "Hot tub Tommy"and others self destruct whining like babies. No responsibilities have they. So Thanks, Air America, if you were not impacting listeners and truth you would never get mentioned . And to all of them, thanks for the free advertising. Like cockroaches they are scurrying about because of Air America and non-Air America progressives turning on the light. God, they hate NOT being the only voices in town(s) and XM now has the ability to get Air America and other progressives virtually even in Idaho and Wyoming. Danny, Thanks and I proud in the tradition of NPR to look at my taking the offer to be in "Membership" with Air America. Money well sent, money well spent. They hate you,you make. What is the saying "thou doth protest too much " (righties). Shine the Light!If they're whining you're(we're) Shinin" . My apologies for the length. And, we need to keep spreading the word, Mary Basombrio

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» Pause and take a breath Posted by: OldRedleg2
Hard to find
Posted by: roygib on Sep 30, 2005 5:26 AM   
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My only real complaint about Air America's programming is that it's hard to find. I recently drove from my home here in southern Vt. to visit my sister in Md. Along the route I pass through Ma. NY., Pa., and of course Md. and tried, all the way down, to find AA programming. At one point I ran across Rush at 6 different spots on the dial, but never during the whole trip did I find AA, even in Baltimore, a Democratic city in a Democratic state.
I'm guessing part of the problem is that apparantly a station must buy into the entire AA package, turning their whole format over.
I have noticed that recently AA added Thom Hartman as a syndicated show and I would encourage them to syndicate other single programs. I'm sure there are a number of stations that would like to go head to head with Rush or Hannity, but still ave their own local programming for the bulk of the day. C'mon AA, 70 stations nationwide is still pretty weak.

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» RE: Hard to find Posted by: polyquats
» RE: Hard to find Posted by: smuney
» RE: Hard to find Posted by: Ardus
» RE: Hard to find Posted by: DA
Air America isn't "desperate"... not by a long shot!
Posted by: seefleur on Sep 30, 2005 5:35 AM   
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...but living in Maine, the only way I can listen to Air America is online. Please please please do whatever it takes to get onto FM! (And incidentally, O'Lielly has been removed from Denver's KHOW radio programming - low ratings, no one is listening to him there!)

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Bad publicity? Spell my name right.
Posted by: Lincoln fan on Sep 30, 2005 6:07 AM   
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The corporate right news sources are making Air America known to people who didn't know that it existed. It pays to advertise. But it doesn't pay to advertise your competition. Keep up the good work.

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XM SATELITTE AIR AMERICA
Posted by: placid on Sep 30, 2005 6:08 AM   
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IF this shos up 3x -sorry,got some problems with this. XM Satellite Radio broadcasts Air America (and a few other progressives). Bad or no reception in your area, inquire. Small box works off AUX , Their Roady you can install in your car, great holiday gifts,Get Progressive Radio even where the deer and the antelop play.No, I Do NOT work for them but no one needs to be without CLEAR AIR AMERICA. My opinion,very reasonably priced for the little box and low monthly fee per radio. No fades. Look into it. XM IS THE ONLY SAT.radio provider carrying now. AS for the folk who complained about listers and hosts complaining-both sides do it. I need to remind myself to do my own research. All hosts have there style..Amen,(BUT CHECK XM OUT. Talk radio is a forum,share ideas,complain,teach(hosts and callers and emailers)-Shrill, both sides have them . Please do not lost get in the messengers style. Think Xm can be reached at XM.com-I think.

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Business or charity?
Posted by: aedwards on Sep 30, 2005 6:10 AM   
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I'm sorry, I seemed to have missed one of the major points of this article. Someone please help me understand. Air America is a comercial enterprise right? What are they doing asking for charity? And if they aren't haveing any financial problems why would they want to put a finacial burden on thier listeners? I know that when I'm watching television and the start doing one of those televised "Give us your money, Get into heaven" show I usally turn the channel.
Someone help me understand this I really am missing something. If you would like to respond personally my e-mail address is: aedwardsone@yahoo.com

Andy

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» RE: Business or charity? Posted by: placid
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» RE: Business or charity? Posted by: Newsguy
» RE: Business or charity? Posted by: aedwards
Thank you and listen online!
Posted by: Bonni - Boston on Sep 30, 2005 6:35 AM   
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Thank you Danny for so much -- great radio, an alternative and counter-point to the exhausting excesses of conservative talk radio and for not stooping, every time they exact a blow, to defend your position (as you say, it only provides more opportunity for them to attack). To everyone else who has complained about lack of access - listen online ladies and laddies! Not the right answer for driving, but certainly for when you're at home or in the office.

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Peak Turmoil
Posted by: Uncle Crabby on Sep 30, 2005 7:03 AM   
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Analogous to “peak-oil”, I believe we are observing “peak-turmoil”. The number of rightwingnuts that supported and drove the takeover of talk radio by American Fascists has, indeed, peaked. There are no more and the numbers can only fall for this group. It is no wonder they resort to their tried and true method of dispensing their message. Lies! They have to keep their herd comfortable. The herd doesn’t want to hear that O’Reilly’s numbers are smaller than Franken’s. Their product cycle is complete, and nobody new is buying.

Fortunately for people with brains, Air America’s product cycle is new, fresh, and its graph leans in the opposite direction. We can continue to enjoy watching Air America succeed. It will gain listeners. It may very well wake up a small number of cattle currently being herded by Fascist Radio, but I don’t hold my breath.

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Mary Kay
Posted by: mkwagner on Sep 30, 2005 7:03 AM   
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I live in Milwaukee, a city with a very long history of progressive politics, in spite of the current situation. Yet we can't get Air America except online. Please, Please, Please find away into the Milwaukee market. Yes, you have stations in Madison and chicago, but we can't get them here. I don't think the local media has any clue how many intelligent listeners would dump the likes of Charlie Sykes (a local version of Bill O'Reilly--equally unacquainted with the truth) into Lake Michigan for a chance to listen to Rachel, Randi, and Al.

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Honoring O'Reilly's Rants
Posted by: david.model@senecac.on.ca on Sep 30, 2005 7:08 AM   
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I am not sure that anyone needs to respond to Bill O'reilly's emotive, ideological and inane rants. He is not in the universe of responsible broadcasting. As a matter of fact, I am not even sure he belongs in the universe of irresponsible broadcasting. He lives in his own little corner of space and time.

The point is that by responding to O'Reilly you are dignifying his comments. His audience is so small and probably ideologically comfortable with the man who is "full of sound and fury signifying nothing" that it seems pointless to waste the time refuting his trashy, outrageous prevarifications. It probably gives him satisfaction to know that serious broadcasters are even paying attention to him.

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» RE: Honoring O'Reilly's Rants Posted by: ALANHESTER
Patriots vs. the Act
Posted by: danbroadway on Sep 30, 2005 7:29 AM   
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I suspect that some of the listeners to the right wing talk shows are merely using it to study that segment of the population. I've tuned in on a few occasions to Rush to count how many lies he tells per show and to get an idea of the mindset of his listeners. His callers seem to be uninformed, narrowminded sheep, only capable of parroting the soundbites they've heard on FauxNews, etc. By contrast, the callers to AA, Talk of the Nation, RadioNation, etc. are by and large quite up on current events, well-read, astute, open minded and actually seem to find thinking a rewarding experience. It's the right that seems to hate America, if you look at their contempt for the constitution, the rule of law, transparent elections and the democratic process. Their patriotism is a hollow act. Progressives accept that honest debate won't harm truth and justice but is a worthwhile exercise in their pursuit. Patriotism should include becoming informed on issues, not memorizing sound bites. That's where AA does a valuable service to our country.

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LeShow is still the best...
Posted by: bambic on Sep 30, 2005 8:40 AM   
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If you like AirAmerica, you'll love LeShow.
It's carried on NPR in many major cities on Sunday morning, or you can go to Harry Shearer.com and check out the archives.
The man is brilliant---his best bit is called "Rush to Recovery".
Genius.

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Limbaugh and O'Reilly Promoting Air America ??? Well, THANKS!!!
Posted by: AdamSelene11726 on Sep 30, 2005 9:18 AM   
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If the worst the Punditry can say about Air America is "hurry up and catch the shows before they're not there any more" and "those liberal broadcasters aren't getting rich at what they're doing" -- their hearts really aren't in the struggle.

It's not only that "there's no such thing as bad press" ... it's that these two reach the exact audience Air America wants to attract and convince -- "People voting against their own interest" -- Red voters who work for a living.

Personally, I find Franken, Rhodes and Springer just slightly more intresting than NPR's daytime Kultur Korner features -- and only very slightly slightly to th left of NPR's "Marketplace."

But that's OK. They're not performing for ME. They're there for the "only mildly pissed of whitish guys" who think they're Conservative and Patriotic, who might possibly be persuaded that BushCo is NOT.

At most, the Democrats only need to pick up 2 or 3% of the vote in the Red States, to in back the Sentate and the White House. Pandering to the hard core ultra left -- which isn't voting Republican anyway -- isn't going to accomplish that.

But Liberal message that soft-Right listeners can stomach for 15 minutes at a time. That might accomplish something.

Then, after 7PM, the stuff I like goes on the air.

Fair enough.

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Fluxman
Posted by: jimfox99 on Sep 30, 2005 9:23 AM   
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Are you saying you don't see a difference between a commercial "radio program" and a commercial "radio network" exchanging items for money?

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» Uh, no ... Posted by: AdamSelene11726
Air America Radio
Posted by: davidt on Sep 30, 2005 9:31 AM   
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AAR is great and don't forget Democracy Now! with Amy Goodman. Between the two sources you will be enlightened in no time--they have everyone on and they get TIME to talk about ISSUES in a discussion format.

Think about this. Conslurvatives are talking about AAR after less than a year of broadcasting. They have dominated the airwaves for 20 years without a countervailing peep. The time factor is very relevant here.

FOX news is losing its viewership rapidly. If you caught the Media Forum hosted by John Conyers on C-SPAN, Randi Rhodes testified that is it down by 46%, that ain't peanuts folks! In other words:

They are SSSSCCCCCCAAAARRRRREEEEEEEEDDDDDDD!!!!!

and they should be. People are waking up to the fact the main media outlets are just stooges for the Bush Regime and the reason that it is sinking in is two-fold--BLOOD & MONEY.

Now I will ask you that famous question that Reagan asked just prior to his deleterious ascendancy:

'Are you better off after 4.5 years of BushInc than you were before they were Selected into office?"

If you are--you have to be a member of the elite superrich who are receiving everything that BushInc can deliver for you. By the way, every single one of the SLURVES who uses the old brickbat of elitist liberal is a member of the elite superrich, think about it and then prove me wrong.

If you are a child, working man or woman, mother, senior citizen, parent, student or VETERAN you are now or are soon to be targeted to PAY for all of the bills that the BushInc regime are running up at an astronomical rate.

You are paying through the nose for their tax cuts, look into a nice little beartrap called the Alternative Minimum Tax, wage-earners in the middle-class--that includes young Christian Evangelicals with families--are going to be "selected" to bear the brunt of this usury. With the new powers that were handed to the MBNA and others in the Bankruptcy bill of 2005, Chapter 11 umbrella techniques will soon feel like quicksand. The superrich won't feel a thing.

Now, if you like BushInc & what they are doing to you please send me your address and I will send you bills that I don't feel like paying.

'Preciateit.

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"Must Haves"
Posted by: monkeywrench on Sep 30, 2005 10:05 AM   
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Gee, O'Reilly's web site offers some really swell stuff for sale, but is missing a couple of items that promise to be big sellers:

A "Talk Dirty to Me, Billy" phone with 13 harrassment phrases, $14.95

A personally-autographed Loofa, new $5.95, ...used, $29.95

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» RE: "Must Haves" Posted by: stormchaser
» RE: "Must Haves" Posted by: kelly.nickell
keep up the Good Work!
Posted by: bstory on Sep 30, 2005 11:24 AM   
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I listen to Air America and Democracy Now for what sounds to me like the truth. Grew up on the big three and never felt informed. Listening to the right wingers gives me a good laugh and thrills. Some days they scare me with the stupidity of their logic. Keep speaking to the truth.
bob

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Don't get why California gets so much Right Wing Blather
Posted by: Newsguy on Sep 30, 2005 11:53 AM   
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This is a blue state, except we have a Republican governor, which I explain by way of the fact that even some California Democrats can be dazzled by movie stars and we were all sick of Grey Davis, who allowed us to get ripped off by the energy creeps and lived up to the promise of his first name. But we are still at heart a blue state, which leads me to puzzle over why there's so much right wing blather on our radio dials here in L.A. I don't get it. Thank god for Air America and KPFK and Amy Goodman. Although to tell the truth, Air America is way more interesting most of the time than KPFK, which too often is just plain dull and uninspiring.
Newsguy

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Air America, come back!
Posted by: esactun on Sep 30, 2005 1:53 PM   
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In the true-blue-state market I live in, we had an Air America station, but they dropped it for low ratings. No kidding.

I was quite annoyed by that. At least they are filling the slot with a liberal-ish local host to attempt to counter-balance all the right-wing bloviating on the rest of their airtime.

This is no way discounts the message of this article. I'm actually glad to have read this because my liberal self had been getting the idea that AA was slowly tanking. I'm glad to hear it's not true.

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I gave
Posted by: liberal elite on Sep 30, 2005 1:58 PM   
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I give to WBAI, PBS, Farm Sanctuary, the DNC, Common Cause, etc...

I loved your enumeration of O'Reilly's web store.

I love Air America and listen to it every day!

Mark Marin and Mark Reilly are no. 1

Mike Malloy -- I would never miss a show

Randi--she's the most intelligent person on the air

Robert Kennedy, Mike Papp, Rachel Maddow and Laura Flanders!

Oh, yeah, and Al Franken ...

WOR and WABC are scared to death!

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Call me sick...
Posted by: kelly.nickell on Sep 30, 2005 4:43 PM   
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but I kind of like listening to Ann Coulter. She brings my blood to a low simmer on every revision she makes to anything she brings to low foam in her own mouth. The froth of that spittle makes me vow to vote early and often every time I listen to any number of these whack jobs as I drive around the good ole US of A. FD&S, that's me.

I just drove from Tampa to Santa Cruz via a series of interstates and back roads and it is truly hard to find AA in most of the areas I have covered in the 48,000 miles traveled in my last year. My average drive is between 1,000 and 3,000 miles; that's plenty of time to try to find something to listen to. Fact is, most of it is any bonehead with an opinion or burr under the saddle, placed in a locale with a microphone that works like a lollipop; some really good stuff in Texas just this last week - Joe Six Pack Consurlatives of the most surly sort. I wonder who cleans the things when they are done? - I digress. These blivits (A blivit is ten pounds of shit in a five pound bag) reside in virtually every corner of every state I've traveled through - why?

Because it is easy to be fat, drunk and stupid; witness our three, four and five letter named lamp shade wearers - Ann, Rush, Bush, Billy; add some more letters and get much less relevance in the blivit - say a Hannity and a limp liberal punching bag named Colmes, and the comedy is ripe for the pickin. It has moved from surreal into absurd.

Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, but we are sure giving it a run for the money. Good luck to AA; may I soon find you on an FM dial on say, KPIG - Freedom, CA, and perhaps find AA of another sort in a local meeting room to cure me of another bad habit cultivated over the prior five years of my disastrous life to ease the pain of a shrub growing in Washington, watered by the right, soon to be poisoned and removed by the left. God I hope so. Deo Volente.

Howdy to Oly, Bogey, Cyclone, Colin, Sojourner, and many others than have listened to me rant. I am now on the left coast for a while. The right coast was to damn hot. And a special twist of the shank to Toilet Boy. May Rush enter your mind and set you free; or not.

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Who is the parent company?
Posted by: EJW on Sep 30, 2005 5:08 PM   
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I have gotten to the point that I suspect any "for profit" outfit unless it is a small mom & pop or collective outfit. I do listen to Air America but get tired of it real fast because of endless advertisements and hype. For the most part the programming is funny and refreshing but lacking in any real depth. For my money I'll stick to NPR and Pacifica. And who is the parent company anyway?

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Mark and Mark in the morning
Posted by: Michiganman on Sep 30, 2005 6:12 PM   
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It always takes me 20 minutes to wake up, Mark and Mark in the morning is a great way to go. Listening on the net is no problem but I hope to hear it in my car on the way to work someday. A fresh shot of irreverent humor is great while coming alive! Thanks AIR AMERICA, live long and prosper!

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Air America rounds things out
Posted by: Jdog on Sep 30, 2005 11:32 PM   
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Like many people, I listen to my local Pacifica station (KPFA) as well as NPR, and I agree that they're both much deeper and more "serious" than Air America. But I've started listening to Air America just for that reason: I can get some laughs in the morning with Al Franken while still getting better informed than I would by listening to some other, non-progressive "news" sources.

It's just a nice break and, unlike Pacifica and NPR, Air America probably draws in Limbaugh, Savage, Hannity, and O'Reilly listeners whose views may change when they're presented with actual facts...

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anti-un-American
Posted by: marxalot on Oct 1, 2005 5:28 AM   
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> It is an obsession with stifling debate --even at the cost of using lies and distortions, which is un-American.

I wish we could all avoid accusing each other of being 'un-American.' It dilutes the thrust of our arguments and has no real meaning.

If you mean by that, 'anti-American,' then please remember that it is always a crime to be anti-regime in any dictatorship. The right may be insensitive and boorish but they are not anti-American.

If you mean dishonorable (which would seem to fit) then just say dishonorable. O'Reilly and Co. certainly are that.

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Come back to Philly!
Posted by: Cyn on Oct 1, 2005 9:17 AM   
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I'm glad to hear AirAmerica is doing well elsewhere, but it has just lost its Philadelphia affiliate and I miss it! We only got Al and Randi as it was on WHAT AM, which is a low-signal, African-American-oriented station which has just gone to an all-local daytime format. I have emailed and tried to call AirAmerica to ask if there are plans for another station here, but they don't reply. Come on, guys -- I want to see Al's and Randi's and Mike Malloy's faces on the backs of buses here instead of Bennett's and Michael Savage's!!

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Looking for Answers
Posted by: aedwards on Oct 1, 2005 4:34 PM   
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I did a little research and couldn't find a thing about the true finacial state of Air America. If this topic is such a big deal to everyone why don't someone publish something that has some hard data to it not just someone saying that the business is failing or not? If I missed this information somewhere please tell me where I ccan find it.

Andy

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Good...
Posted by: kryptx on Oct 1, 2005 6:11 PM   
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I hadn't heard that they were accelerating their loan repayment. As one who was somewhat outraged at the secretive and underhanded nature of this "loan" under the previous ownership I was not optimistic that they would own up to it and pay it back in a timely manner. Children are more important than any radio network.

That said, I can't stand Randi Rhodes or Al Franken. My local "progressive" (AM 760, Boulder) carries Ed Schultz, who is tolerable. On the right, and as a rightie (might even be a "neo-con", depending on your definition) I have an equal distaste for Hannity and Limbaugh. Haven't really listened to O'Reilly. I just feel like the hosts have to oppose everything on the other side, no matter what. It seems unreasonable to think that everybody on side A is right about everything and everybody on side B is wrong about everything, so when I find hosts who seem to at least consider both sides I continue listening. The only hosts I've found that actually defend the other side and/or provide reasoning for what they're saying are Ed Schultz and Dennis Prager.

Those two aside, talk radio is just a pile of propagandists spewing partisan rhetoric, and Randi is at the top of the list.

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Walenda
Posted by: Winston on Oct 1, 2005 9:42 PM   
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I listen to several right-wing radio programs because I agree with host's point of view about certain issues. However, I would not mind having access to Air America, which would give me a liberal point of view on many issues. I am not a strict conservative or liberal. I would just like to hear both sides of an issue before I make up my mind about who I agree with, unless I've already made up my mind about it. Too many Americans tend to put themselves into one pidgeon hole or another. I think that's pretty lame. I agree with liberals about a lot of social programs and agree with conservatives about gun-control. I feel people like me are left out of this process almost entirely because we won't join some right/left wing group and are called names by both sides. It's almost like a sin if one doesn't consider himself a pure liberal or conservative. Both sides have good and bad points. Neither has monopoly on truth. But I welcome Air America if, for no other reason, it is an alternative to conservative hotdogs like Hannity and B. O., and especially the oxy king who supports strict controls and punishment for OTHERS caught doing drugs. I guess Rush is above the law.

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Listen Online
Posted by: D. Julian Terry on Oct 2, 2005 7:46 PM   
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Thanks Danny for all you do. You might mention that most folks with a computer can listen to Air America Radio online. I believe it's on 24/7. So if an AA station is not near you or is weak or is only on a limited number of hours, listen to AA online!

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Is this a precedence for listener-supported commercial radio?
Posted by: Michael Turnauer, Vancouver,WA on Oct 2, 2005 10:05 PM   
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I, too, wondered about Air America's financial situation when I received an email from them on September 21, introducing their Air America Associates Program. It struck me as extraordinary to have a commercial radio venture seeking direct financial support from its listeners. I do enjoy Air America's programming somewhat regularly but I do not understand why I would pay them for the privelege of helping them gain entry into additional markets without receiving some share of ownership. Air America has been a fairly bold experiment from the start in launching a full blown network rather than offering up individual talk personalities for syndication as is more the norm (as it is now doing with Thom Hartmann's syndicated program). Witness the success of Ed Schultz, who started less than three months earlier than Air America but has 30 more affiliates and does not solicit donations or financial support from its listeners, instead choosing to sell its program to a small investor group who helped Clear Channel become the 800 pound gorilla it is today.

Mr. Goldberg cites the merchandise and optional subscriptions offered by Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, and others in defending his Associates program. Does Air America also not sell logo and insignia-emblasoned merchandise? The email I received also mentions that Air America will be launching paid services of its own. Please explain to me again how seeking financial support from its listeners as a for profit venture is not unique at least in radio broadcast? Can Mr. Goldberg specifically cite what commercial enterprise(s) has (have) sought money from listeners prior to Air America because nothing in his statement can be construed as evidence refuting Bill O'Reilly's assertion. This is a huge diversion from discussing the merits or implications of a commercial radio venture seeking listener financial support.

As a listener who finds himself routing for the rousing financial and ratings sucess of Air America I cannot see how this article is nothing more than wild spin on the part of Mr. Goldberg, perhaps to shore up confidence with investors and affiliates. I wish Air America the best of luck but there is no way I will outlay money for this or any commercial entity where I was not getting a piece of ownership (like, you know, stock) in return. I'll happily support NPR, on the other hand, with no such expectations.

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Morning Sedition Rules!
Posted by: sourpuss on Oct 4, 2005 5:55 PM   
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Here in south Florida we get Air America on a lousy AM station, yet I get up early (6am) to hear "Morning Sedition" with Mark Moran and Mark Reilly cuz it is just plain good radio!
I apprieciate Al Franken doin' his part to save our country, but the guys on "Morning Sedition" are actually fun to listen to, we should hear more from them. They should get a better time slot cuz they know how to do radio and they blast a progressive message wherever they are heard. We need more than just spokes folks, we need radio stars who will capture an audiennce!

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pozart
Posted by: pozart on Oct 12, 2005 9:37 AM   
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For at least 3 months after the fall of Baghdad, OReilly repeatedly stated that the US should withdraw all troops from Iraq on the grounds that the US presence was both unappreciated and unwanted.

His corporate masters must have changed his tune during the ramp up to the 2004 elections.

Publicizing this would likely prove to be very embarassing to him and Fox.

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