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Helen Thomas, known as "the first lady" of the press, was a White House correspondent for four decades, sitting in the front row during presidential press conferences, asking the tough questions. She was the first woman to hold posts in the White House Correspondents' Association and the National Press Club. She now writes a syndicated column twice a week for the Hearst newspapers. She was one of the only "mainstream" journalists who vehemently opposed the invasion of Iraq and challenged the Bush administration on the fabrications and distortions that led the United States to war. The following is a conversation between Helen Thomas and CODEPINK cofounder Gael Murphy.
Gael Murphy: Our so-called independent media, the cornerstone of our democracy, have truly failed us in the most recent events around Iraq. They didn't do the investigations or critical analyses of the administration's policy toward Iraq. They didn't take into account opposing voices, alternative sources, and the millions of protesters. Why do you think the corporate media paid so little attention to exposing the flaws in the Bush administration's justification to go to war?
Helen Thomas: I think that the media really went into a coma and rolled over and played dead, just as Congress did. It was a politics of fear after 9/11. Everybody, even reporters, started wearing flags after 9/11. At these White House briefings there was an atmosphere among the reporters that you would be considered unpatriotic or un-American if you were asking any tough questions. Then it segued into a war where you'd be seen as jeopardizing the troops if you asked certain questions.
And the administration did an amazing job of linking Saddam Hussein and terrorism. In every briefing I attended in the lead-up to the war, the spokespeople would say, "Saddam Hussein, 9/11"--"Saddam Hussein, 9/11" in the same breath. Obviously they had put the two together and wanted the media to as well. Then a week or so before the war they said there was no connection. Well, by this time, the job was done. It was a beautiful propaganda message, and it worked.
Another problem is that there are no investigative reporters anymore. During the unraveling of the Watergate scandal, the Washington Post had eighteen reporters on the story and the New York Times had an equal number, digging in everywhere. In this case, no one was around, really, to challenge the administration.
But there were a lot of alternative sources of news and investigative journalism, and there was also the world press doing its job. Don't mainstream journalists look at these other sources?
We have a herd mentality here. It was groupthink. Nobody wanted to get out of line. Reporters felt that they shouldn't push too hard. I didn't feel that way. I was against this war from day one, and I kept challenging the White House spokesperson, Ari Fleischer. One day, about six months before the U.S. invasion, I said, "Ari, why does the president want to kill thousands of people?" I mean that's about as simplistic as I could put it. And he said, "Why are you saying that, Helen? They have a dictator! They have no say in their country!" I said, "Neither do we." I went up to Condoleezza Rice after the U.S. invasion and said, "Where are the weapons? Where's the smoking gun? Where's the mushroom cloud?" She said, "Saddam used these weapons twelve years ago, he had them. ..." And then she went up in smoke herself. She flew out of there with her eyes blazing, so angry that she should be challenged.
Regarding the White House press corps, is it sort of the cream of the crop of journalists who get to be part of those briefings?
Every new administration comes in with a new crop of reporters who have been on the campaign with them and have gotten to know them, and their bosses say, "You're going to the White House because you know intimately so-and-so and can call them up and get an interview." So not only do they tend to be young, but they tend not to question what is said.
It almost sounds like reporters are embedded with a presidential candidate and then inherit the White House as their reward.
That's certainly true. They get to the White House because they've done a good job on the campaign, they've gotten to know the players, and they're supposed to have this kind of entrée and closeness. And then they engage in self-censorship instead of challenging everything that's being said. I remember Bush's press conference a few days before the war. It was a fiasco, because everybody knew we were going to war and asked things like Do you pray? instead of asking the hard-news questions like: Why are we going to war? Why haven't you done more to avoid it? Why haven't you used diplomacy? Under what justification can you go into someone else's country? I'm also one of the few reporters who push the Pentagon on Iraqi casualties. When I'm writing a column about war casualties, I call the Pentagon and say, "Well, now, how many fatalities?" They'll readily say how many, in battle and in accidents. Then I ask about the wounded soldiers, and they reluctantly tell me about the wounded. Then I say, "How many Iraqis?" And the answer I'd get is, "We don't track that. They don't count." So once I called back and I said, "Look, aren't we supposed to be liberating these people? What do you mean they don't count? I want a rationale for why you don't count them." And they said, "Look, our purpose is not to kill, but if there is resistance, we do our job and don't count the numbers." Iraqis don't want foreigners in their country, and some will resort to terrible things to get rid of them. But what right do we have to be there? That's the bottom line. I can assure you no reporter has asked that question. What right do we have to be there?
Did you ever challenge your colleagues about their reporting?
No. They knew how I felt, they could hear me, but there is an unwritten rule that you do not challenge your colleagues. Except I must say that the Wall Street Journal called me the crazy aunt in the attic, and so did Fox, for questioning the war. Well, I want to know, who is the crazy aunt in the attic now? I think the Wall Street Journal owes me an apology.
Have you always questioned U.S. military involvement?
I was in favor of U.S. involvement in World War II. It was absolutely necessary. We were attacked. And our country was unified--we believed in it. I'm critical of unnecessary wars. I hated the Vietnam War, not from the moment Kennedy and Johnson put their foot in the door, but from the time of French colonialism from 1948 and the battle of Dien Bien Phu in 1953. I certainly thought it was wrong for us to go into Indochina after the French had been defeated.
I did support the invasion of Afghanistan. I thought we had to go to the core and find out more about Al-Qaeda. But I thought Iraq was absolutely wrong. It was just out of the blue, when Bush came into power and decided that he was going to have a regime change in Iraq. And then Congress signed on the dotted line, giving a blank check without asking any questions!
I couldn't believe the people in Congress who actually did that. I couldn't believe Senator Kerry--he went to Vietnam and came back saying, "War is horrible. This is a horrible war and we shouldn't be in it." I suppose that eighteen years in the Senate can make you an Establishment person, and you forget. The authorization to go into Iraq is practically word for word from the Gulf of Tonkin resolution. Why didn't bells ring? How on earth could Kerry have just signed on? Because he was running for president and thought it would get him more votes?
So how do we get journalists and the media to do their job, to be critical of administrations and the policies that are not in the best interests of the public? How do we wake up America?
I think journalists are coming out of their coma now. I think they're getting a little more feisty. I think the public kind of bore down on the press and the press started to respond, although there is certainly a lot more we need to do.
I think the public should reach out to the editorial writers and the publishers and take them to task for their pro-war positions. People should get meetings with the editorial departments of the major papers and the local papers and say, "Look, your paper came out for this war. Can you explain why? And what do you have to say now? Have you changed your mind? Have you printed your new position?" Ask them if they'll do a mea culpa. I'm sure most of them won't, but they should be encouraged to do it.
People should also go to the TV stations, including the talk shows. They should complain about the one-sided nature of the guests on the show. They should ask why, every Sunday, did we hear from Colin Powell and Condoleezza Rice and Donald Rumsfeld and Dick Cheney, but not equally from the antiwar side? Remember, a free and independent press is the basis of democracy. Journalism is the last resort against a government with such imperial motives, and we have to hold their feet to the fire.
I think that we should shame Congress for signing on the bottom line but not asking the tough questions they should have asked. They defaulted on the most important privilege they have in the Constitution--the right to declare war. They let the Constitution down. They let the country down. I think everyone who voted to authorize the president to go to war should be pinned down. [John D. Rockefeller IV, of West Virginia] was the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee. He said that if he knew then what he knows now, he would not have voted to go to war. I would go to every congressman, every senator, who voted for the war, and say, "Knowing what you know now, would you still have voted the same way? And if you would, why?" Reporters should put them on the line, and so should their constituents.
Reporters should put presidents on the line as well, and the public should demand that presidents have regular press conferences. During the campaign we should make them say that they will hold regular news conferences every two weeks. Bush hated talking to the press and only did when forced to. He had a seating chart and would pick the journalists he wanted. He was told to not call on me because I would ask a very tough question. He didn't allow any follow-up questions and would get mad if a reporter asked a two-part question. I mean, c'mon. The president of the United States should be able to answer any question, or at least dance around it. Presidents should be obligated --early and often--to submit to questioning and be held accountable. The presidential news conference is the only forum in our society, the only institution, where a president can be questioned. If a leader is not questioned, he can rule by edict or executive order. He can be a king or a dictator. Who's to challenge him?
So in terms of the media, looking toward the future, what hope do you see?
My hope is that we'll all wake up and realize our tremendous collective failure. Maybe we could have saved lives. Maybe we could have stopped Bush from the folly of invading Iraq. We certainly must learn from our mistakes-- not being aggressive enough, not being curious enough, not demanding enough--so that we can help to stop the next folly of war.
And my hope is that people will begin to hold their government leaders accountable, and that we'll have true leaders who understand the horror of war and who do everything in their power to work for peace.
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Posted by: knitter on May 2, 2005 4:48 AM
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I am noticing that Richard Cohen's editorials are now asking some hard questions about the war and continued involvement in Iraq.
Katherine Parker wrote a column last week calling for discussion about global warming. She said that the specter of WMD ws the threat that got us into war. Shouldn't the possibility of the mass destruction to be caused by global warming be addressed?
Both of these columnists had been following the herd mentality earlier. I am hoping that their changing is a sign that the trance-like hold of the government over media thinking and questioning is at an end.
I highly recommend reading Crimes Against Nature by Robert Kennedy, Jr. It has considerable information that is helpful to our asking questions that will hold the feet of congress and media to the fire. If the press corps is less than effective, it falls to us to ask the hard questions of them so that they follow the lead of "the aunt in the attic" . In fact, it is time for them to bring her down from the attic to a space of honor where she can lead them in the fine craft of asking tough questions?
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Posted by: nakis on May 2, 2005 9:09 AM
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But I have my doubts too. It's been three years since the war started. The situation on the ground is getting worse as the months go by in Iraq. The presidential administration lied repeatedly to scare us to war. Their lies were outed. They passed the buck. They were not held accountable for the unnecessary deaths of over 100,000 men, women and children. If journalism becomes that stereotypical model you see in those old black & white movies from the 30s, 40s and 50s where they will stop at nothing to get to the truth, how much will it really mean? With journalism behind justice would justice be served? This administration is the most secretive, untransparent administation in history. I used to have faith that in time history would show this administration for the criminals they are. If Bush could evade exposure and prosecution as a deserter with all the records, missing and found, what hopes do we have for justice even if all the journalists woke up?
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Posted by: Iamnotafruittree on May 2, 2005 10:08 AM
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Keep telling the truth. Keep asking the hard questions. The day will come when all of this will be behind us just like 9/11. When we can look back at everything that was written about the events leading up to all of this big mess and come to our own conclusions!
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Posted by: karmick on May 2, 2005 1:07 PM
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Rarely has destiny's terrifying path been more clear and horrifying.
The winds of dynamic, virtuous change cannot help but spring forth almost exclusively from inside people as individuals. It's too late for the kind of change that sweeps across human culture in a spirit of insight, truth and cooperation.
It may well be the evil(controlling, selfish agenda, mildly put) now faced must play itself out before humanity genuinely gains an understanding of the madness of our hatred, ignorance and putrid lies and deceit.
We see BS and idiocy every day yet how often do we call it out? How often do we speak truth to power in our own lives, in the smallness of each and every moment, slaves to polite society and much vaunted rules of petty engagements and social niceties.
We are taught peace, but at the price of the necessary wars everybody must fight every day, no matter how small, to gain both dignity and justice and, when possible, truth, insight and change.
This culture of ours is steeped heavy in the sh*t of disgraceful bindness to the stack, miles high, of injustices of both centuries past as well as daily rituals and conventional wisdom which shortcircuits our very souls and instinct as good humans.
Sex, drugs, love, emotions and truth; just 5 basic things whose unvarnished organic shine we screw up and blur every day.
Looking for answers.
Let yourself be called crazy for pointing out the BS right in front of you.
For even in times when it seems inevitable to see the solutions coming from the top down, reality will never yield to the bottom-up truth of genuine change in the world.
Bottoms up!
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THIS ARTICLE
The stories that remain dead and buried will never be told...
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Posted by: commonsense on May 3, 2005 7:20 AM
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school yore, and much less opinion injected.
Maybe it was just a matter of time, diverging from one-way
TV format to multimedia-interactive viewer-comment-vision.
Broadband now provides many of the same audio and video clips we're accustomed to getting from radio and television,
and what's best there's no 30-to-90 second advertising interruptions. That last may well be the best part of all.
People aren't stupid, they can figure out whether or not they want to buy soap, eat fried chicken, what kind of car to drive (or not to drive at all), etc. etc. etc., without being incessantly
bombarded by 'in ya face' advertising. I mean, do you
REALLY expect to get a scantily-clad cheerleader with your lite beer, honestly? Madison Avenue's been sorely overdue
for a good swift kick in the backside for decades, I'm glad to see the Broadband Evolution happening, as it will make them
have to sit down and figure out exactly what, if anything, they really do for a living....meanwhile, in other news, people
often know about events BEFORE the commentators find out
about it, preventing a lot of 'yesterdays news, tomorrow!'- type reporting. Dare we dream of Quality Television,
someday?
Essentially, it's win-win-win for the consumer. A sorely
needed step foward, whose time has finally come....
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Posted by: jreinhart1 on May 3, 2005 12:28 PM
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In short, I can learn more about where I live and the country I live in from the foreign press than the Orwellian garbage on America's fake news waves.
When I want opinion, there are news blogs and websites that are much more comprehensive on specific issues from any viewpoint that I read now, just like the newspapers I used to read before they too were bought out by media conglomerates.
A well educated public is necessary for a Republic based on Democratic principles to survive. The news that is being served today by the media use soundbytes, spin, half truths and outright lies which are nothing more than packaged up commercial products for consumer use. In the end, the only thing that matters are the ratings which determines how much time costs on these commercial channels. How patriotic is that?
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Posted by: hilchris on May 3, 2005 1:08 PM
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Suddenly, they are bent on turning the heads of everyone from the war and it's miserable situation to the Social Security issue - THAT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE ADDRESSED BY THIS ADMINISTRATION -
Folks, wake up, we'll have another mess here at home!!! The press and WE all need to hold them accountable - for all their mistakes and not add more to the stack!
Helen, you are FANTASTIC!..........keep at em!!
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Posted by: terihu on May 5, 2005 3:01 PM
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No one seems to make the connection between what's going on today and what happened in 1988*, when the vast majority of today's journalists were in high school, or younger, and how that influenced their understanding of what journalists DO. You know, that Supreme Court case that basically told high school journalists that their freedom of press ended at the schoolhouse gates?
*(For those who don't keep with these things, it was Hazelwood v. Kuhlmeier, where a principal yanked a story from the school newspaper without the editor's knowledge. They took it all the way to the Supreme Court, who said that yes, schools DO have the right to curtail student expression if it caused a "substantial disruption" to their educational goals...you can imagine what fun administrators had with that vague guideline. This ruling reversed the rights of students upheld by the Tinker v. Des Moines case of 1969.)
This is a generation of reporters brought up with the understanding that to preserve their jobs, they had to sacrifice the truth for the story that their superiors wanted to hear. And they learned that lesson all too well. And we're seeing the results of that indoctrination in the media today.
Thanks a lot, SC, justice has been well served.
It seems very shortsighted for media analysts to ignore this, to me, very critical factor in our current situation. Yeah, sure it was 18 years ago...that's just long enough for someone to graduate from high school (say, 2 years, if s/he was a fledging hs reporter when Hazelwood came down), go to college (4 more), journalism school (2 more), work their way up some newspaper staff rungs (7-8 years) to an assistant editorship and then some real decision-making power. If this person's first taste of journalism was in an atmosphere of repression, then doesn't that explain a LOT of the decisions that the mainstream media has been making regarding coverage of Republican shenanigans?
Please, if someone else has noticed this, and commented on it, let me know, because I haven't seen it.
Teri
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Posted by: jimp1947 on May 5, 2005 8:03 PM
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Instead, they prostituted themselves, became bitches for Bush. Now they have no one but themselves to blame for their perfidy. One day respect for truth may return to the fourth estate. In the meantime, it is only such exemplars as Helen that remind us of what once was.
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Speaking after talks with his US counterpart Condoleezza Rice near the city of Maastricht in the south of the Netherlands, Mr Bot said President Bush has also abandoned the idea that the United States should police the world. As a result, the US is listening to Europe and wants to undertake more joint action to realise ideals such as democracy.
Mr Bot described the Netherlands' relationship with the Bush administration as "honest, critical and loyal", adding they did not skirt around difficult issues like Guantanamo Bay.
His 45-minute meeting with the US Secretary of State covered relations with Russia and Iran, and the US treatment of terrorist suspects.
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Posted by: knitter on May 2, 2005 4:48 AM
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I am noticing that Richard Cohen's editorials are now asking some hard questions about the war and continued involvement in Iraq.
Katherine Parker wrote a column last week calling for discussion about global warming. She said that the specter of WMD ws the threat that got us into war. Shouldn't the possibility of the mass destruction to be caused by global warming be addressed?
Both of these columnists had been following the herd mentality earlier. I am hoping that their changing is a sign that the trance-like hold of the government over media thinking and questioning is at an end.
I highly recommend reading Crimes Against Nature by Robert Kennedy, Jr. It has considerable information that is helpful to our asking questions that will hold the feet of congress and media to the fire. If the press corps is less than effective, it falls to us to ask the hard questions of them so that they follow the lead of "the aunt in the attic" . In fact, it is time for them to bring her down from the attic to a space of honor where she can lead them in the fine craft of asking tough questions?
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Posted by: nakis on May 2, 2005 9:09 AM
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But I have my doubts too. It's been three years since the war started. The situation on the ground is getting worse as the months go by in Iraq. The presidential administration lied repeatedly to scare us to war. Their lies were outed. They passed the buck. They were not held accountable for the unnecessary deaths of over 100,000 men, women and children. If journalism becomes that stereotypical model you see in those old black & white movies from the 30s, 40s and 50s where they will stop at nothing to get to the truth, how much will it really mean? With journalism behind justice would justice be served? This administration is the most secretive, untransparent administation in history. I used to have faith that in time history would show this administration for the criminals they are. If Bush could evade exposure and prosecution as a deserter with all the records, missing and found, what hopes do we have for justice even if all the journalists woke up?
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Posted by: Iamnotafruittree on May 2, 2005 10:08 AM
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Keep telling the truth. Keep asking the hard questions. The day will come when all of this will be behind us just like 9/11. When we can look back at everything that was written about the events leading up to all of this big mess and come to our own conclusions!
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Posted by: karmick on May 2, 2005 1:07 PM
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Rarely has destiny's terrifying path been more clear and horrifying.
The winds of dynamic, virtuous change cannot help but spring forth almost exclusively from inside people as individuals. It's too late for the kind of change that sweeps across human culture in a spirit of insight, truth and cooperation.
It may well be the evil(controlling, selfish agenda, mildly put) now faced must play itself out before humanity genuinely gains an understanding of the madness of our hatred, ignorance and putrid lies and deceit.
We see BS and idiocy every day yet how often do we call it out? How often do we speak truth to power in our own lives, in the smallness of each and every moment, slaves to polite society and much vaunted rules of petty engagements and social niceties.
We are taught peace, but at the price of the necessary wars everybody must fight every day, no matter how small, to gain both dignity and justice and, when possible, truth, insight and change.
This culture of ours is steeped heavy in the sh*t of disgraceful bindness to the stack, miles high, of injustices of both centuries past as well as daily rituals and conventional wisdom which shortcircuits our very souls and instinct as good humans.
Sex, drugs, love, emotions and truth; just 5 basic things whose unvarnished organic shine we screw up and blur every day.
Looking for answers.
Let yourself be called crazy for pointing out the BS right in front of you.
For even in times when it seems inevitable to see the solutions coming from the top down, reality will never yield to the bottom-up truth of genuine change in the world.
Bottoms up!
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THIS ARTICLE
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Posted by: commonsense on May 3, 2005 7:20 AM
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school yore, and much less opinion injected.
Maybe it was just a matter of time, diverging from one-way
TV format to multimedia-interactive viewer-comment-vision.
Broadband now provides many of the same audio and video clips we're accustomed to getting from radio and television,
and what's best there's no 30-to-90 second advertising interruptions. That last may well be the best part of all.
People aren't stupid, they can figure out whether or not they want to buy soap, eat fried chicken, what kind of car to drive (or not to drive at all), etc. etc. etc., without being incessantly
bombarded by 'in ya face' advertising. I mean, do you
REALLY expect to get a scantily-clad cheerleader with your lite beer, honestly? Madison Avenue's been sorely overdue
for a good swift kick in the backside for decades, I'm glad to see the Broadband Evolution happening, as it will make them
have to sit down and figure out exactly what, if anything, they really do for a living....meanwhile, in other news, people
often know about events BEFORE the commentators find out
about it, preventing a lot of 'yesterdays news, tomorrow!'- type reporting. Dare we dream of Quality Television,
someday?
Essentially, it's win-win-win for the consumer. A sorely
needed step foward, whose time has finally come....
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Posted by: jreinhart1 on May 3, 2005 12:28 PM
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In short, I can learn more about where I live and the country I live in from the foreign press than the Orwellian garbage on America's fake news waves.
When I want opinion, there are news blogs and websites that are much more comprehensive on specific issues from any viewpoint that I read now, just like the newspapers I used to read before they too were bought out by media conglomerates.
A well educated public is necessary for a Republic based on Democratic principles to survive. The news that is being served today by the media use soundbytes, spin, half truths and outright lies which are nothing more than packaged up commercial products for consumer use. In the end, the only thing that matters are the ratings which determines how much time costs on these commercial channels. How patriotic is that?
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Posted by: hilchris on May 3, 2005 1:08 PM
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Suddenly, they are bent on turning the heads of everyone from the war and it's miserable situation to the Social Security issue - THAT SHOULDN'T EVEN BE ADDRESSED BY THIS ADMINISTRATION -
Folks, wake up, we'll have another mess here at home!!! The press and WE all need to hold them accountable - for all their mistakes and not add more to the stack!
Helen, you are FANTASTIC!..........keep at em!!
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Posted by: terihu on May 5, 2005 3:01 PM
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No one seems to make the connection between what's going on today and what happened in 1988*, when the vast majority of today's journalists were in high school, or younger, and how that influenced their understanding of what journalists DO. You know, that Supreme Court case that basically told high school journalists that their freedom of press ended at the schoolhouse gates?
*(For those who don't keep with these things, it was Hazelwood v. Kuhlmeier, where a principal yanked a story from the school newspaper without the editor's knowledge. They took it all the way to the Supreme Court, who said that yes, schools DO have the right to curtail student expression if it caused a "substantial disruption" to their educational goals...you can imagine what fun administrators had with that vague guideline. This ruling reversed the rights of students upheld by the Tinker v. Des Moines case of 1969.)
This is a generation of reporters brought up with the understanding that to preserve their jobs, they had to sacrifice the truth for the story that their superiors wanted to hear. And they learned that lesson all too well. And we're seeing the results of that indoctrination in the media today.
Thanks a lot, SC, justice has been well served.
It seems very shortsighted for media analysts to ignore this, to me, very critical factor in our current situation. Yeah, sure it was 18 years ago...that's just long enough for someone to graduate from high school (say, 2 years, if s/he was a fledging hs reporter when Hazelwood came down), go to college (4 more), journalism school (2 more), work their way up some newspaper staff rungs (7-8 years) to an assistant editorship and then some real decision-making power. If this person's first taste of journalism was in an atmosphere of repression, then doesn't that explain a LOT of the decisions that the mainstream media has been making regarding coverage of Republican shenanigans?
Please, if someone else has noticed this, and commented on it, let me know, because I haven't seen it.
Teri
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Posted by: jimp1947 on May 5, 2005 8:03 PM
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Instead, they prostituted themselves, became bitches for Bush. Now they have no one but themselves to blame for their perfidy. One day respect for truth may return to the fourth estate. In the meantime, it is only such exemplars as Helen that remind us of what once was.
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Posted by: Boronia on May 7, 2005 4:41 PM
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Speaking after talks with his US counterpart Condoleezza Rice near the city of Maastricht in the south of the Netherlands, Mr Bot said President Bush has also abandoned the idea that the United States should police the world. As a result, the US is listening to Europe and wants to undertake more joint action to realise ideals such as democracy.
Mr Bot described the Netherlands' relationship with the Bush administration as "honest, critical and loyal", adding they did not skirt around difficult issues like Guantanamo Bay.
His 45-minute meeting with the US Secretary of State covered relations with Russia and Iran, and the US treatment of terrorist suspects.
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Posted by: Tom Degan on May 8, 2005 1:02 PM
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Tom Degan
Goshen, NY
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Posted by: Tom Degan on May 8, 2005 1:07 PM
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