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Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh Stoking GOP Civil War

By Eric Boehlert, Media Matters for America. Posted November 11, 2009.


The right-wing media are trying to play "king-maker." But they are incapable of picking winners and stand poised to rip the Republican Party apart.
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It's not easy to flip a congressional district that's been Republican since the late 1800s, but after being willingly hijacked by the right-wing media -- after getting steamrolled by Fox News' embrace of third-party candidate Doug Hoffman -- Republicans managed to hand Upstate New York's 23rd District to Democrats last week. And they did it just in time for the newly elected Democrat to help (barely) push health care reform through the House of Representatives during Saturday night's historic vote.

Doug Hoffman was, first and foremost, a media candidate (a media creation), which means we are entering a very new and different realm in American politics. We're entering a sort of Fox News Era where media outlets -- where alleged news organizations -- essentially co-sponsor political campaigns. We've moved well beyond the time when Fox News, for instance, leaned right and gave conservative candidates more air-time and tossed them lots of softball questions. We're now watching unfold a political reality where Fox News literally selects candidates and then markets them through Election Day.

There's a reason Hoffman described Glenn Beck as his "mentor" and pledged his "sacred honor" to uphold the "9 Principles and 12 Values" of Beck's 9/12 Project. There's a reason Sean Hannity wanted to "declare" Hoffman the election winner, and why Fox News' on-screen graphic read "Conservative Revolution?" when Hoffman was being interviewed (i.e. prematurely crowned) by Hannity on the eve of Election Day.

Hoffman's outsider bid, originally opposed by the Republican Party, was a media production, plain and simple, which means his loss was a media loss, as well.

Former Republican House Speaker Newt Gingrich had it right when he told The Washington Times that Hoffman's rise as a third party candidate was the "result of Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Fox News." Gingrich, who originally opposed Hoffman's candidacy, added: "This was not an isolated amateur; this is an entire movement."

Indeed, it's a media movement that's doing it's best to obliterate the line between journalism and politics.

As I've been noting for some time, Fox News has transformed itself into the Opposition Party of the Obama White House. So it makes sense that, as a purely partisan player, Fox News would immerse itself in backroom horse-trading. It makes sense that rather than covering the campaigns and the candidates, Fox News would insert itself as a political player within Republican contests and throw its support behind a specific candidate, the way it did in NY-23.

The looming problem for the GOP, though, is that the right-wing media can't pick winners and stands poised to rip the Republican Party apart. (Did you notice how Limbaugh last week claimed "Newt" had "screwed the whole [NY-23] thing up"?)

It's yet more evidence that during President Bush's pro-war tenure, far-right radio and TV talkers, along with fringe bloggers, convinced themselves they represented the mainstream -- the majority -- of the GOP. But they don't. They represent the radical CPAC wing of the GOP, and it shows on Election Day. We saw that in 2008, when bloggers and talkers opposed Sen. John McCain in the GOP primaries yet were completely unable to sway Republican voters in the process. In the immortal words of Republican strategist Mike Murphy, "These radio guys can't deliver a pizza, let alone a nomination."

 What's different now, though, is that the right-wing media have become even more powerful within conservative circles, while the Republican National Committee and traditional Republican leaders have receded even further into the background. (Does anyone really see Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell as the leader of anything?) That power vacuum means it's Fox News that sets the conservative agenda in America. It's at Fox News where partisan strategies are hatched, rallies are marketed, and smear campaigns are launched. And it's Republican politicians and traditional Beltway professionals who are forced to play catch-up to the conservative media.


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Good For Now
Posted by: Revolutionary (Direct) Democracy on Nov 11, 2009 12:43 AM   
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Until the GOP perps can be tried, convicted and hung, laughing at them while they reduce the Republican Party to sputtering powerlessness is just going to have to do.


FREE AMERICA

REVOLUTIONARY (DIRECT) DEMOCRACY

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» Shouldn't that be "hanged" Posted by: Hiroak
» RE: Shouldn't that be "hanged" Posted by: rotorooter
A wonderful feel-good story from AlterNet :)
Posted by: jonathanseer on Nov 11, 2009 1:24 AM   
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Nothing ensures that eventually this country will finally take a permanent turn and start walking then probably running down the road our more civilized and socially conscious European friends have.

Countries that think health care is a right, and the social security net does not make people lazy but allows them to continue to work towards a better future without being knocked out every time something bad happens.

The really nice thing is idiotlogues (my word) like this are too full of themselves to ever realize the gun that keeps shooting them down is in their hand.

And of course, this also ensures that come 2010 there will be NO return to power for the Repugnicans (my word).

Serious minds know that not falling further behind will be an accomplishment. Americans the vast majority will have tuned them out.

The important thing is liberals need to start focusing on ensuring the "jumping ship traditional conservatives" do NOT get a welcome in the Democratic party without clearly refuting some of their more conservative beliefs.

In the past for the sake of a majority, these sorts of things were overlooked, but once the Repugnican party implodes for real, there will be no place for that sort of compromise on principles to the degree that we become what we say we oppose.

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» Words, Words, Words Posted by: Adastra
Don't underestimate these people
Posted by: noir on Nov 11, 2009 1:33 AM   
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I wish very much that these clownish ideologues will have the disastrous effect on reactionary political activity foreseen here. But I've heard it all before. In the mid60s the American left assumed, after Goldwater's crushing defeat, that the right was done, and probably the entire GOP with it. But not so, as we all know. The one thing they've been smarter and shrewder about than the left--not to mention more unprincipled about--is the ability to form a united front and seize the public imagination. They are at their most poisonous when, as now, complex and enormous problems face the country and the world. Their Neverneverland rhetoric sounds mindless to those who try to see things as they are. Don't count these bastards out. They--or others like them--know how to force themselves upon us.

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Where is CNN heading?
Posted by: reinaldok on Nov 11, 2009 1:37 AM   
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Has anyone else noticed how the supposedly independent CNN is turning into a FOX clone?
They are just going back to their TIME mag ancestors, the Booth Luces and their ilk. More and more Dobb's type slime programs are bringing them closer to the right wing wackos.

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» RE: Where is CNN heading? Posted by: Lilly
Problem with a 2 party system
Posted by: felipe on Nov 11, 2009 1:54 AM   
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Look at this way, if the GOP is purged of moderates, and Obama/Dems crash and burn, what options will voters have left?

A Dem, who will be blamed for everything that has gone wrong, or a Beck/Palin approved Republican, as they will be the only type remaining. In its own twisted way its genius.

The wing nuts have nothing to lose and everything to gain. They obviously don't care about the Republican Party, if they can't control it, they'll destroy it. If does not make one whit of difference to the Teabagger crowd.

I've wondered if the GOP saw the mess created from 2000-08 and realizing that it will take a freakin' miracle to fix, threw the 2008 election, betting that Obama would fail. That way they could stage a come back in 2012 by saying "We told you so".

Even if that is the case, I do not think the GOP party leaders expected the wing nuts to stage the coup d'etat we are seeing now.

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» RE: Problem with a 2 party system Posted by: John Wilbur
» 2 parties, 1 bank account Posted by: eddie torres
A party by any other name would just....
Posted by: Tom Degan on Nov 11, 2009 2:08 AM   
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whither and die....

And speaking of names, folks: why don't they just rename themselves the "Tea Party" and be done with it. This is certainly not the Republican Party of Abraham Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt.

Is it the goal of these clowns that they will destroy the GOP in order that they may rebuild it in their own image? If that is the case they're in for more-than-a-few surprises. That silly party is already "in their image". Are they seriously when they imply that they would wish to move it even further to the far right? How "far right" can one move before one falls off of the face of the earth? Are they serious?

Watching the utter implosion of the Grand Old Party in the last year has been the gift that just keeps giving and giving. Someone pinch me!

The Tea Partiers

Tom Degan

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» Tom, have you no life? Posted by: November2010
» Spelling Ayers Posted by: November2010
» Physician heal thyself Posted by: drmflorida
» RE: Physician heal thyself Posted by: Tom Degan
» Ban This! Posted by: November2010
» RE: Ban This! Posted by: crashgrab
» just another Che t-shirt... Posted by: November2010
» The Black Book of Communism Posted by: November2010
» RE: Tom, have you no life? Posted by: Hiroak
» RE: Tom, have you no life? Posted by: crashgrab
» RE: Tom, have you no life? Posted by: Longdream
Keep dreaming, comrades! WE'RE ON THE MARCH!
Posted by: November2010 on Nov 11, 2009 3:49 AM   
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The year is 2000. Ralph Nader is out-polling Al Gore, so Gore drops out. But instead of endorsing his fellow liberal, Gore, out of sheer bitterness, endorses his enemy, George W Bush. In effect, the establishment of the Democrat Party and Republican Party both endorse Bush. On election night, Bush beats Nader 49-45. The media claims victory and proof that Nader is a loser and America hates the Green Party.

That is an alternative reality. It could never happen, because America is fundamentally libertarian. But is a good analogy of what happened in NY-23 last Tuesday. The Republican Party nominated a woman who ended up endorsing a Democrat. The Democrat won...BARELY! She scored a measly 49% of the vote.

Hoffman, a far-right fringe third-party candidate, against the will of both parties, scored over 45% of the vote.

And you socialist losers are claiming victory?!

BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

You hear that marching thunder? That's a right-wing army. We're coming. November 2010, you can't come fast enough. Prepare for a libertarian revolution.

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» RE: Dream Nov. 3 wake up Nov.4 Posted by: surfreality
» Re: lemmings Posted by: desertrose
» Hey Nov2010 Posted by: felipe
» Max, you ridiculous fool.... Posted by: November2010
» RE: Max, you ridiculous fool.... Posted by: November2010
Americans Are Waking Up To The RED Influence In Our Gov.
Posted by: Ross Wolf on Nov 11, 2009 5:23 AM   
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Increasingly the American Public is resisting the Left. Fox News reporting may expedite that resistance. Rapidly Americans are concluding The RED Influence in our Gov. is not concerned about drowning small business with expensive costs of employee health insurance, taxes, government regulations and controls that inhibit economic growth and jobs.

Ideologically REDS in U.S. Government believe free enterprise exploits labor and people for profit and should be punished. U.S. Socialists and Communists believe crushing free enterprise will shift power to them, the STATE after the masses become totally dependent on Gov. for survival. The problem with the RED Ideology is it breaks down after the REDS run out of other peoples’ money to spend on Socialistic or Communist programs. Obama Health Plan appears RED because its insurance costs will force millions of middle class Americans that can't afford health insurance to pay Opt-Out penalties Obama will use to pay health insurance costs for others, while middle class Citizens without insurance, will be forced to borrow money or sell their property to pay medical costs.

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» Wow! Posted by: desertrose
» This is satire, right? Posted by: Quicksilver
» Nice Job Asshole Posted by: Hiroak
» Ross Wolf is an ignorant fool. Posted by: wisegalah
» RE: Joe? Posted by: Longdream
Toooo mucking fuch! Infighting in the inner sanctimonium.
Posted by: Nitestallion on Nov 11, 2009 5:33 AM   
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Maybe we ought to bug their board rooms and offices with video and audio so we can watch their Ca ca roach dance for the next piece of filth they sling. We could call our composit film Star Snatch Poopers.

Put a leather face mask on Hannity, give him a cat-o-nine tails to flail away on the infirm or physically challenged. Hand Rash Limburger a gallon of acid with a spray nozzle to attack mothers’ whose sons were killed fighting these damned wars.

Why stop there? The so called Republican Party has ever been throwing rocks and then pointing at the other guy as the perpetrator. Democrats are not blameless after all we seem to slurp this hog swill up with total trusting demeanor.

Will no one question the Patriot Act? Will no one prosecute the last administration for attacks on the constitution and American civil liberties? Hey! Let these cretins destroy their own party from inside. Who needs these rabid tumbleturds anyway?

All of the secret orders , Nights of the Nile bamboozlers, the Great Brick Builders of Baphomet, Order of the Sacred Dung Beetle, have done their level best to tie this country to this or that Ideology without any circumspection from soul searching! These monsters would have the American People believe that the world is out to get us, well Jesus lord in whatever what would one expect after we foist all these wars on them?

By the way Hannity you are still a chicken dropping for treating Michael Fox the way you did and you owe me ten rounds in the University Of Washington Hub boxing ring; You obnoxious flipping coward!

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What about the other war?
Posted by: C. Rich on Nov 11, 2009 5:35 AM   
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There is a war in The Democrat Party and it looks like one side won:

http://americaspeaksink.com/2009/11/the-democrat-party-is

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Just making money...
Posted by: Boduognat on Nov 11, 2009 5:44 AM   
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You can blame Fox News of a lot of things,from being a propaganda tv station in the Bush-era,to being a platform for the extreme right,etc...But you can't accuse them of being stupid.The more they attack the president,the more they fire up the whole teaparty movement,the higher their rates are going.They are taking advantage of the vacuum,caused by the republican defeat in 2008.They fill this weakness in the republican party with personalities they control.Other rightwing media-personalities take advantage as well, remember when Michael Steele for forced to apologise to Rush Limbaugh?(of all people) The fact that the republican party has been taken hostage by a fundamentalist ultra-nationalist minority is an abomination to democracy.These attacks on moderate republicans seem like a return to McCarthyism.It's time some strong moderate republican,preferably with a military background, denounces Beck,Hannity and Limbaugh for what they are: windbags who are getting rich,while they are destroying the basic democratic principles on which the united states were founded. But I fear that it is too late,as the rightwing now proclaims to be the mainstream of the party. Meanwhile,Fox News is enjoying higher ratings and income from advertising is up,as tolerance and compromise are thrown overboard. Yesterday I read a blog in which a woman endorsed Palin,saying:'Gods Voice will rule the US,through Sarah Palin...'
That says about enough about the state of the country and this whole debate...

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Trailer Park Trash On The Warpath
Posted by: melpol on Nov 11, 2009 6:31 AM   
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It would be a tragedy for American ideals if right wing talk show hosts started a civil war. Millions of racists, anti-semites, and homophobes would march on Washington. They would be opposed by a rag tag army of guitar playing hippies. Blows would be exchanged and guitars smashed. The marchers would then return to their trailer parks.

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» RE: Trailer Park Trash On The Warpath Posted by: popeurbanxxiii
» RE: Hey, it's a joke. Posted by: oregoncharles
I wonder
Posted by: Thedirtydemocrat on Nov 11, 2009 6:52 AM   
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what the Tea Bagger Logo is. LOL

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» RE: I wonder Posted by: paulaH
Given the results of the NJ and VA races, I dunno but the GOP are their own "socialists".
Posted by: maxpayne on Nov 11, 2009 7:09 AM   
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The Democrats wrongfully abandoned the people's socialism and stuck with the GOP version of "socialism" for the wealthy/corporate elite. GOP or Demos, we're all fucked ! When more Democrats can be like Dennis Kucinich, then I'll trust the Democratic Party. Likewise, when more Republicans can actually behave more like Eisenhower, Teddy Roosevelt, Abraham Lincoln, and Thomas Jefferson, then it might be a party worth considering.

As to the bastardized "libertarians" here bashing socialism, FUCK YOU ! You're already getting your corporate/wealthy elite "socialism" you've been fighting for.

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Teabaggers blast Newt at Human Events
Posted by: ColinLaney on Nov 11, 2009 7:50 AM   
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Whenever Newt writes a piece at Human Events, the comments look like this

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Wake up!!
Posted by: Blackfeetboy on Nov 11, 2009 7:57 AM   
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I hate to say this, but...

Are you all idiots? What makes you think the members of the psycho wing of the RububliCANTS will destroy their party. They won't!

This is a political party that is willing to completely fabricate evidence and prevert existing evidence. They are willing (more than willing) to engage in MIND BLOWING types of character assassination. They shamlessly incite their followers to levels of violence that increase with every passing day. DON'T SIT BACK WITH YOUR POPCORN AND WATCH ANYTHING!

These people are psychotic and they won't stop until they've taken power. Which is exactly what'll happen if we sit on our asses thinking we've won. We're closer to defeat now, more than ever. We must organize and protest. We must keep our wimpy party on the path. What I've learned from Obama and his adminstration is that I'm affiliated with the party of placation. I hate to be lined up with the wimps... but sadly I am. We have to keep our leaders on the path, or we'll lose everything.

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Since 1800?
Posted by: donnal on Nov 11, 2009 8:00 AM   
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A Democrate won NY23 in 1989 and served until 1992. Perhaps this writer should use fact check before writing his text to exaggerate the lost of this seat.

I agree with the writer that those who came from outside the area, did not help the Republican or Conservative candidate. What the Republicans must do is learn from this mistake and remember that all politics remain local. All seats must be elected by those in that area. EVEN, when voters get it wrong, it still is their vote to make the mistakes.

Sarah, Glen and Rush and others in their haste to provide support forgot that Conservatives above everything else, believe in less interference from others and the government. Let this be a lesson to them, that even though they are of conservative mind, we still make our own decisions, right or wrong.

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» RE: Since 1800? Posted by: EncinoM
Recall that McCain was running on the amnesia platform.
Posted by: GuitarBill on Nov 11, 2009 8:08 AM   
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If you paid attention to McCain's rhetoric, you'd think it was the Democrats who occupied the White House the last eight years and it was time to throw the bastards out.

McCain simply could not acknowledge the existence of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney.

John McCain tried--unsuccessfully--to distance himself from Bush, and obfuscate the huge policy differences between him and Barack Obama. The Republican's strategy, however, filed miserably.

The Republican Party is in trouble. In fact, they may not survive the damage done by six years of a Republican-controlled Congress and executive branch.

They're finished. Good riddance.

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Tear Themselves Apart!
Posted by: bh on Nov 11, 2009 8:46 AM   
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I hope this article is correct. I hope they tear themselves apart and leave the dead carcass in the gutter by the side of the road. The current version of the GOP has been exposed for what they really are. Will that make a difference in elections? I hope so.....

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More than one show playing
Posted by: geezjan on Nov 11, 2009 9:06 AM   
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While you're enjoying your popcorn, you might want to pay some attention to the show playing on screen number two next door.

I'm as happy as anyone to see the GOP self-destruct. But the Democrats are also going through a transformation, and it isn't pretty either. They have become what the Republicans were not that long ago.

Take a good an honest look at what the Democrats have been doing since Obama took office--I mean both Obama and Democrats in Congress. Look at how they betray voters, serve corporate interests, wage war, violate human and civil rights, and on and on and on. And while the Democrats won NY-23, they also lost Virginia and New Jersey--no small feat.

The ones to really worry about now are the Democrats. I haven't voted for a Democrat in over ten years, but many liberals and progressives did in 2006 and 2008--rather than vote for a truly progressive third option. Democrats have proven they really don't give a damn what their voters think once they get elected, and yet the left seems to feel stuck with them just because they're two inches to the left of the GOP. I don't view that as a positive sign for progressive causes.

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» RE: 30% Posted by: oregoncharles
Good for them,
Posted by: Archie1954 on Nov 11, 2009 9:38 AM   
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let's keep them working to destroy the Republican party. No better duty could they perform for the country.

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makaainana
Posted by: Makaainana on Nov 11, 2009 10:33 AM   
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Dear Republicans of all stripe,

These "us and them" conflict exploiters have been trying for years to increase their publicity and earnings through criticism, shady truth and divisiveness.

When the present government got so popular their favorite target became an uphill battle, so now they have switched to the Republican Party.

They have no constructive message. Their comments are meant to inflame and exploit ones anger and frustration. They are good at it.

If you let them they will destroy the Republican party and then simply move on to the next area where feelings are strong, take a side and try to inflame the people involved.

Its a simple formula, but effective when you buy into their "messages".

You are being used for no other reason than to increase their noteriety and public image.

YOU ARE BEING USED. Tolerate it at the peril of your party.

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National Tragedy
Posted by: BobPomeroy on Nov 11, 2009 11:02 AM   
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As LWN all my life, it hurts to observe the descent of the GOP. It once offered reasoned alternatives to oppose just about everything, sometimes. I miss Senator Dirksen. He didn't sneer or bray (exclusively) his opines. He didn't have a fake tan. I liked Senator Brooke better.
But now it has constructed a different method of presenting opposition. It whoops people up by a series of Elmer Gantrys. A party that is being misled because it has created a New Modern English

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Something Else...
Posted by: oregoncharles on Nov 11, 2009 11:25 AM   
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buried in a link. Click "virtually kaput," bottom of the second page. Then click the graphic, so you can see ALL of the numbers.

Yes, it shows that only 20% self-identify as Republican, putting them in 3rd-party territory (Perot got 18%, throwing the race to Clinton - who was NOT the political genius he's cracked up to be). Add up the Democrat numbers: 30%. Only 50% of Americans self-identify in EITHER major party!

Is that real news, or what?

I sort of wonder what the "Other (VOL)" category means; that will take me longer.

Going back to the main point of the article: if he's right, and the Republican Party is tearing itself apart, as it certainly should after the last 8 years, that is extremely good news.

It would mean that, just as Bill Maher pointed out, the Democrats are now the conservative party (meaning they belong entirely to Big Business), with around 30% support, and there is an enormous amount of political space for something new.

Are we finally breaking our stupefaction with the "2 party system" - which has become a 1 party system?

We can hope.

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» RE: On further examination... Posted by: oregoncharles
» Cash is King Posted by: eddie torres
What? Limpbag wants to destroy the Republican party?
Posted by: Doubtom43 on Nov 11, 2009 11:41 AM   
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Where can I send him money? Does he need any help?
Come to think of it, what's left to destroy?

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What? Limpbag wants to destroy the Republican party?
Posted by: Doubtom43 on Nov 11, 2009 11:41 AM   
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Where can I send him money? Does he need any help?
Come to think of it, what's left to destroy?

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Strategic Considerations
Posted by: oregoncharles on Nov 11, 2009 12:08 PM   
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I pointed out above that the same poll he talks about shows only 50% identification with EITHER major party - the Dems are at only 30%.

That number reflects a broader movement: a wave of anti-incumbency, reflected in a number of recent Alternet articles. Large majorities see the country as "moving in the wrong direction," or basically in deep shit, even though a majority still "support" Obama. And teabaggers aren't the only ones pissed off: as Green Party organizers, we see more Pissed Off Democrats every day.

The party in power normally loses ground in mid-term elections, like 2010 (less than a year off, now.) Anti-incumbency sentiment would also hit the Dems hard.

But there is an opportunity here: people still remember the last eight years, so they'll be reluctant to empower Republicans. Note that Republicans just won GOVERNOR races, but not Congressional ones, and the formerly Republican California House seat swung even more progressive. It was actually a wash.

So if progressives don't want to see a wave of Republicans entering Congress next year, they need to FOSTER the American voters' abandonment of the 2-party trap. They need to make sure those disenchanted voters swing to the left, not the right. In practice, that means the Green Party (www.gp.org.)

Imagine members of Congress who are committed to progressive principles but are not beholden to the big-business shills running the Democratic Party. They would be Kucinich with bells on (and Dennis himself would seize the opportunity to switch.)

Out with the Old, in with the New. "Change" - the real thing, this time. It's the oldest campaign slogan in the book, and next year is its date with destiny.

(I look forward to the knee-jerk responses from the usual DP trolls. But I HOPE for some creativity: where do we go from here? We have the lemons: where's the lemonade?)

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» RE: 37 Years Posted by: oregoncharles
Let's hear it for American politics
Posted by: willymack on Nov 11, 2009 12:40 PM   
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Scumbag low-lifes endorsed by comic book characters on a phony news channel.
It doesn't get any better than this, folks.

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Let it roll on...
Posted by: L5 on Nov 11, 2009 3:30 PM   
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FOX News is in the perfect position to provide the set of circumstances that will both encourage and speed up the process of the GOP devouring itself.

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the GOP have a War on Truth
Posted by: techcafe on Nov 11, 2009 3:56 PM   
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their disinfo generals are Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Bachmann... along with the rest of their ilk. and their commander-in-chief is that mad old man Murdoch.

btw, it's interesting to note, like Fox News, The Sun (newspaper) in the UK, also owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp, has pledged its allegiance to the Conservative Party.

anyone else see a pattern developing here?

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Now, if we could only get Limbaugh to take on the Democrats
Posted by: dayahka on Nov 11, 2009 4:10 PM   
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As you say, this will be fun to watch the destruction of the Republican party, but we also need to get the Democrats to self-destruct as both parties are about as useless as wheels on a tree.

While we're at it, we might also want to consider abolishing the Congress as a whole, as all we seem to have is a bunch of kowtowing perverts who've sold their souls to the lobbies and financial elite.

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A Left Wing Conspiracy?
Posted by: Eric.Arthur.Blair on Nov 11, 2009 5:34 PM   
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Just suppose that Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Palin, et. al., are actually undercover left-wingers undermining the right-wing movement? Sometimes it almost seems that way.

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» I do sometimes wonder... Posted by: Parcival01
SHHHH!!!!
Posted by: jreal on Nov 11, 2009 5:42 PM   
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The enemy has unleashed termites within itself. Don't ring the bell. Turn around and let it die.

Or as you said, sit back and watch. Grab the popcorn.

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A Little History Lesson
Posted by: ajshagn on Nov 11, 2009 6:45 PM   
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Folks who experienced Murdoch before he established himself in the US tried to warn us how he would pervert politics here. Any one who thinks he's not on a personal mission to manipulate and control the right is naive.

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» RE: A Little History Lesson Posted by: techcafe
b kennth mcgee author: eyes shut tight
Posted by: rfgtile on Nov 12, 2009 6:08 AM   
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Ahhhhhh....the famous DO-DO Bird.....flies around in concentric circles...until it flies up it's own rear end. Welcome to the NEW Repubican Party.

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Blood on their hands
Posted by: dadanbetty on Nov 13, 2009 4:48 AM   
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All 3 of these aforementioned nutcases as well as their support staff, writers, computer techies, etc., have blood on their hands!

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Don't count them out
Posted by: better vision on Nov 14, 2009 8:13 AM   
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Yea sure I believe you. The right wing extremists are going to have a melt down and then they will just go away! The truth is that when they have their little tantrums, it’s just a side show. Those hatemongers who badmouthed Senator John McCain and said they would never support him, did in fact vote for him. When it comes to decision time they will join together and vote together.

They will continue to indoctrinate a new generation of religious extremists through end of the Earth 2012 movies and Jesus is comin’ fearmongering. They will continue to teach that greed is good for America and that we deserve our higher standard of living because we are the “chosen” and when climate change destroys crops - money talks and as Gods’ chosen, we will be in a better position to survive. One minute they teach that we are the Lord’s tools to do his work on Earth and the next they say don’t worry about it because God will never let that happen. Their God is defined in whatever image they wish to define him to serve their purpose at the time.

They have such noteworthy house niggers as Alan Keyes to send out weekly racist lies blaming President Obama for everything from Chicago not getting the Olympics to the shootings at Fort Hood. To have such a man say the things that a white man would be uncomfortable saying is a real blessing for the repugnantcans. And they bombard their racist following with weekly letters from Keys. I know of three people who are on the mailing lists and they are old people who contribute their last penny to the cause because having a black man in the White House is all the proof they need that the democrats are evil.

There are mailing lists from dozens of these hatemongering extremist and they are very effective. Another one sends out weekly letters saying that the democrats are going to destroy Social Security and Medicare. They have front names that imply that the sender is a citizens group trying to save Social Security. Every subversive group that they create has a pleasant sounding and misleading name. They have their very own TV network and are expanding constantly. Where ever you leak they hang a bucket, don’t count them out.

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The missing post
Posted by: FreeAmerica on Nov 14, 2009 5:58 PM   
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Well we have the usual name calling and hatred, and a couple of good posts, but no crux of the biscuit.

Here is the deal. People like Rush, Hannity and many republicans are sick of the repub party being taken over by democrat light candidates. They have had the ass full of moderates with bush and his milquetoast policies. The moderates aren't any different than the democrats other than the letter behind their names.

This is exactly why your obama is president. He only won by what 5,6%? There were that many true conservatives that couldn't hold their nose and vote for mccain as they had for eight years of bush and moderate senate/congressional candidates since 98.
There was very little difference between the two parties. There was democrat and democrat light, but no truly conservative option.

This will not be tolerated any more, and that is why all of the outsiders attacked scozzafava so bad. As evidenced by her endorsement of the democrat after she dropped out of the race, she was not even remotely conservative.

There *is* a civil war going on in the republican party. It started really heating up when they appointed the very moderate steele to head the rnc. It got worse when they let the democrat run press appoint mccain as the candidate.

If mccain hadn't chosen palin, who showed at least some glimmer of conservatism, he would have lost by 15-20 more points. He has bent over for democrats so many times that he considered being one. Without palin, the choice was the far left obama, and a light version in a geezer.

That.. is the crux of the biscuit.

You guys really should clean up the discourse in these posts. I mean unless you are 12 or out of substance, name calling really shouldn't be a required part of your post. I mean like 7/135 posts here doesn't name call someone. Maybe it is a secret handshake or something.

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Bech channels Beale
Posted by: techcafe on Nov 15, 2009 5:46 PM   
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Beck likes to compare himself to Howard Beale in the satirical film, The Network

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