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Glenn Beck's Bizarre Outburst Against Meatless Mondays and Vegetarians

Cheap gas and cheap chuck remain American birthrights to loopy libertarians like Beck.
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Jon Stewart ended an interview with climate-change contrarian and Super Freakonomics co-author Steven Levitt on Monday night by noting, "I've apparently frightened our audience by suggesting that conservation isn't the only way out of any of the problems of the world. I sincerely apologize."

He added, "And I do also believe that we should just eat vegetables."

I'd love to report that Stewart has embraced Michael Pollan's "eat food/not too much/mostly plants" edict. But, of course, Stewart was only joking. The line drew a big laugh from the audience.

The interview followed a report on the Whole Foods "buycott" from Daily Show correspondent Wyatt Cenac asking "whether conservative hatred of liberals is so strong it can make them buy organic food."

Fresh fruits and vegetables remain the Rodney Dangerfield of the Western diet, getting no respect from cable commentators -- the comics or the crackpots. Stewart's mock endorsement of mock duck came on the same day as an anti-tofurkey tirade from Glenn Beck, who echoed Lou Dobbs' recent condemnation of the Meatless Monday campaign adopted by Baltimore's school cafeterias as a form of "indoctrination":

"Americans love our steaks, we love our chops, we love our burgers, and you'll throw me in jail, my last meal will be a giant steak. Are we going to stand for that? Are we going to put up with this? Well, you'd think not, but in Baltimore, Md., public schools have now started, in the schools -- no indoctrination here -- Meatless Monday. No meat on the menu for 80,000 kids that they serve, no meat, that way the students that they serve can quote 'eat and learn about healthy, environmentally friendly choices.' "

Beck has struck ratings gold with his weepy, creepy brand of small-minded faux populism. He's not a big picture kind of guy. It takes a wider perspective than a tea bagger's tunnel vision to connect the dots between: a) the wars we're mired in; b) our fossil-fuel-dependent way of life; c) the perils of climate change; and d) our meat-dominated diet.

He prefaced his anti-Meatless Monday rant by mocking President Barack Obama for taking time out from agonizing over Afghanistan to deliver a speech at a solar-power plant in Florida, in which the president emphasized the need to invest in clean, renewable energy. Beck sneered:

"I'd hate to have the president rush a decision on Afghanistan, I'd hate to have him cut short his solar-panel trip today ... get a nap in, Mr. President, before you deal with the war ..."

Beck belongs to the "pump all you want, we'll drill more" camp, so, from his petrocentric perspective, fighting two wars in the oil-rich Middle East presumably makes more sense than exploring alternative ways to meet America's massive energy needs.

And, since he's also a skeptic on climate change, why worry about reducing our greenhouse-gas emissions?

In fact, it's the folks who are calling on us all to curb our carbon footprint who pose the greatest threat to "U.S. sovereignty," according to Beck. He cited a quote from U.K. climate chief Lord Stern in Monday's Times Online:

"Meat is a wasteful use of water and creates a lot of greenhouse gases. It puts enormous pressure on the world's resources. A vegetarian diet is better."

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Watch Out, the Above Link might be a Virus
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Posted by: jreal on Oct 30, 2009 1:13 AM   
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Don't trust anyone posting random links.

Can someone please remove this whole Post.

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Perhaps Beck will recognize Elmo as
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Posted by: MMarauder on Oct 30, 2009 4:25 AM   
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a fellow sock puppet.

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You are what you eat......
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Posted by: peterjkraus on Oct 30, 2009 4:29 AM   
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and pale, doughy, chubby Glenn Beck eats shit with his "American Birthright Burger". The more burgere, the more shit.

Ergo....

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it's like this...
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Posted by: ThomasJefferson on Oct 30, 2009 5:55 AM   
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repukes and libratarians hate government and it's "control" over the people of this nation, but heaven forbid, that anyone one gets between them and their subsidized beef, look out.

like most of those right wing tools, they only hate government things that don't concern them.

I would love to see how they would keep the roads repaired if they ever got their way.

morons

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Nothing wrong here?
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Posted by: bandofotters on Oct 30, 2009 6:06 AM   
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How far can they take this? Can they forbid kids from bringing in a balogna sandwich on a Monday? Would there be a zero tolerance policy involved? ...two-week out of school suspension. Will there be signs posted on Monday morning and taken down Monday evening reading "Meat Free Zone"? Will I be able to be within a 1,000 feet of a school on a Monday as I walk home with my KFC take-out order? If I live within a half-mile of a school will I have to register as a Monday meat-eater offender?

Can they move it to Fridays out of respect to Catholics who may still practise the tradition or would there be some violation of separation of church & state (whatever that means)?

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Drama Queen Beck
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Posted by: freshlemon on Oct 30, 2009 6:21 AM   
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Beck is breaking the "man-mold" with his drama queen rhetoric and tears.

Since when does eating healthy food without meat equal indoctrination? Indoctrination to what? Healthy eating?

Eating meat is the "manly" way I guess for a simpering coward like him. It will take a lot more than eating meat for old pasty face to be manly. I,for one,would like to see him eat a lot of crow.

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Climate change will change our diets
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Posted by: ebishirl on Oct 30, 2009 6:48 AM   
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The author correctly points out that meat production is closely linked to both our fossil fuel addiction and the rising level of greenhouse gases. If we don't act soon to address those two problems, the results will change our diets for us, like it or not.

In fact, a report released just this week found that climate inaction will lead to dramatically higher food prices in the UK, largely because environmental stresses will lead to reduced yields of staple food crops like wheat and rice. It warns that Britons could be paying £6.50 for a loaf of bread and £18 for a pint of beer by the year 2030.

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There is no "animal flesh fetish"
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Posted by: Beck on Oct 30, 2009 7:01 AM   
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Why does anything think they won't lose most of their audience with a loaded description like that? Loaded, judgmental, and invented. I still think it's complete arrogance for any humans to assume we decide our own biology and can choose our biological needs. But I think it's okay for anyone to decide their own diet. Since only a tiny percentage of you even claim to be vegetarians, and since in my observation only a small percentage of you who claim that actually avoid all meat, maybe it's long past time to lay off the loaded language and judgement. To me, this argument against meat is just an excuse and straw man. Hardly anyone has a truly meat-free diet. You can't be a little bit pregnant, you can't almost be a non-smoker, and you can't be a sometimes vegetarian. For people to continue to base all environmental hopes for the future upon something that cannot and will not happen shows an unwillingness to actually change and improve the dire prognosis for the planet. How about we all give up all driving? Give up clothes dryers entirely? How about a series of articles saying all thermostats all winter long must be set at 58 (after all, most of the world can't achieve a winterlong temperature of 58 any more than the same people can eat meat every day) and no one can use air conditioning any more?

Actually, I think we could give all those a shot. It is human life on the planet we're talking about. But the point I'm making is why continue choosing things that will not happen? We could choose thermostats at 58. We can't "choose" vegetarianism except for the period of time we're living off our stores of iron and B12 or using supplements to delude ourselves. Go ahead, project impossible scenarios and then claim only that scenario will save us. It's the worst, laziest, most futile attempt possible.

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Dems are generally more supportive of animal issues
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Posted by: vasumurti on Oct 30, 2009 7:02 AM   
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Kathleen Marquardt, founded Putting People First, an anti-animal rights group. In her 1993 book, Animal Scam: The Beastly Abuse of Human Rights, she says:

"The real agenda of this movement is not to give rights to animals, but to take rights from people—to dictate our food, clothing, work, recreation, and whether we will discover new medications or die."

Identical assertions could have been made about the abolition of human slavery, the crusade to end child labor, the liberation of concentration camp prisoners from Nazi physicians or an end to the experimentation upon black humans by white humans.

Marquardt writes that the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA) "now encourages vegetarianism, the banning of fur, and the eventual end to all animal research, not just ‘cruel’ animal research." Marquardt writes that the Humane Society now supports vegetarianism.

According to Marquardt, "The typical animal rights activist is a white woman making about $30,000 a year. She is most likely a schoolteacher, nurse, or government worker. She usually has a college degree or even an advanced degree, is in her thirties or forties, and lives in a city."

Marquardt cites studies indicating that animal rights activists tend to identify with liberal causes such as feminism and environmentalism. "Every year," writes the Reverend Andrew Linzey, author of Christianity and the Rights of Animals, "I receive hundreds of anguished letters from Christians who are so distressed by the insensitivity to animals shown by mainstream churches that they have left them or are on the verge of doing so." It is not surprising, therefore, that Marquardt reports that "Most activists share a bias against Western civilization and its Judeo-Christian foundations."

According to Marquardt, the "political clout" of the animal rights movement "is surprisingly bipartisan. But most of the leading politicians working with the animal rights movement are liberal Democrats." Marquardt mentions Senator Barbara Boxer of California, Nevada Congressman Jim Bilbray, Charlie Rose of North Carolina, Tom Lantos and Gerry Studds.

Marquardt admits, however, "some Republicans are animal rightists, too. Senate Minority Leader Bob Dole of Kansas often supports animal rights causes—except, of course, those pertaining to cattle, a major business in Kansas. Senator Robert Smith of New Hampshire was a founder of the Congressional Friends of Animals. Bob Dornan of California, one of the most conservative House members, is an animal rights advocate—he cosponsored legislation banning the use of animals in testing cosmetics and received a PETA award. And Manhattan Congressman Bill Green promoted legislation that would have shut down over 90 million acres of federal land to hunting, fishing, and trapping."

Marquardt states further that "Although he’s not an elected official, a conservative political figure who, surprisingly, is on the other side is G. Gordon Liddy, author Will and a key figure in the 1972 Watergate uproar. When I went on Liddy’s radio show, he and PETA’s Ingrid Newkirk greeted each other with hugs and kisses and lots of warm words.

"With allies in both political parties and across the ideological spectrum," concludes Marquardt, "the animal rights movement has been able to score some great successes, regardless of which party controls the White House or Capitol Hill."

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Alternet is Beck's greatest advertising agent
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Posted by: moloko velocet on Oct 30, 2009 7:03 AM   
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I read Alternet every day...and ya know what?... the only information concerning Glen Beck (or Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, or any of the rest of the various wing-nut demagogues) is from Alternet. Glen Beck, et al have no need to employ publicists...they have Alternet. Alternet do more to "get the message out" (to people who otherwise wouldn't ever here it) than Fox News!

Seriously, I've never once watched or listened to any of these idiots...and don't really care one whit, about their agenda-driven propaganda. I wholly dismiss them in the same way I do an irritating commercial. I believe, at this point, that everyone who peruses this site (who is not a wing-nut troll) fully understands these people, and have the same opinion of them.

Why then, do we have at least one article per week decrying the latest glurp spewed by Beck or one of the others? Rehashing (and re-posting) the same invectives every week is perfectly pointless.

Switch it off....and ignore them...you're not going to stop them, and they're not going away.

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Just Fucking Stop!
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Posted by: Augustus_818 on Oct 30, 2009 7:15 AM   
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Hold on there Alternet. Glenn Beck is NOT, I repeat NOT A LIBERTARIAN. I love how you two retards like to beat on each other. But please, for the love of Holy Fucking Jeebus, stop trying to shunt your problems onto the one group of people who might actually be trying to salvage something out of this whole debacle we call the USA. That is all.

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Meaty mindset
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Posted by: w0x0f on Oct 30, 2009 7:39 AM   
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The eat-meat mindset was spotlighted perfectly on this week's episode of Top Chef.

Challenged to create a veggie menu, only one (IIRC) of the chefs managed to remember that even vegetarians need protein, and whipped up a nice lentil dish to go with whatever else was on the plate.

The others created nice veggie dishes that would have served as side dishes on a meat-eaters' menu.

Get a clue, people, and get familiar with the concept of providing protein with creative grain and legume dishes.

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An inconvenient truth
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Posted by: ClaudineMe on Oct 30, 2009 8:00 AM   
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It is a well-known fact that vegeterianism/veganism is better for one's health (very important for children!)and for the environment. Why are so many people dragging their feet in adopting such a diet at least once a week? It's a win-win proposition. I applaud schools with a conscience.

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P.S.
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Posted by: ClaudineMe on Oct 30, 2009 8:08 AM   
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...and I can't wait for Jonathan Safran Foer's new book "Eating Animals" to come out! Bon Appetit!

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Beck
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Posted by: Bushmaster on Oct 30, 2009 8:11 AM   
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My dad had a name for people like him it was 'knucklehead'.

What's scarier than Beck is that there are enough people out there to make him a profitable commodity.

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Glenn Beck is NOT a libertarian
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Posted by: leftinAK on Oct 30, 2009 8:51 AM   
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Listen.
I hate Glenn Beck just as much as the next intelligent individual.
But AlterNet!
Please get out of this rut of publishing authors who whine instead of write.
Beck is far from being a libertarian and this "MOOOOOOOM!!! Glen is bothering me again!" bullshit is getting sickening.
REAL JOURNALISM PLEASE

thank you.

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What is he covering up?
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Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Oct 30, 2009 9:20 AM   
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Beck is a noise machine to keep us from noticing the stuff like this,

2002, Brit Diplomat in Uzbekistan Witnessed CIA Rendition Flights, Proof of Torture

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"just eat vegetables" != "eat just vegetables"
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Posted by: nousername on Oct 30, 2009 10:23 AM   
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"just eat vegetables" is not the same as "eat just vegetables"

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Glen Beck is one of the true threats to the 'system'
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Posted by: The_Lazy_Left on Oct 30, 2009 12:03 PM   
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hence the need of Alternet (George Soros) to ridicule him.

If you take off your blinders you will see Beck attacks Republicans more than you currently think. This suggests that to some extent Beck isn't a "system man."

Beck challenges people to shake the system up - which is a threat to so called left wing sites like Alternet who prefer a passive sheeple approach.

Notice that Alternet never leads a collective group action? The function of Alternet is too provide a vent for the frustrations of the left, rendering them less potent.

You might counter that Alternet publishes articles which attack corporate America. So what? you think a pin prick goes noticed? The banking industry could care less.

George Soros is the founder and primary financial supporter of Alternet. Do you think he wants you to change the system? Think again.

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He attacks Republicans but not in the same way as Democrats
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Posted by: Changling on Oct 30, 2009 12:21 PM   
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For the former they just aren't right wing enough for him. Hence his support for the reich wing Know Nothing Conservative Party man running in NY. Too many listen to him and his distorted message that Progressives are fascists and they want to take over the country. Or are they socialists? He's just not sure about that. He is sure that they need to be stopped. Just not with violence he says now. Anyone who supports the likes of Sara Palin is dangerous.

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Look, Beck's a contrarian
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Posted by: ETSpoon on Oct 30, 2009 1:52 PM   
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If some "liberal" organization or other said a meat-only diet was the only way to save the planet, Glenn Beck would preach veganism.

It's as simple as that.

As far as Steven Levitt being a "climate-change contrarian", that's a misrepresentation and...well it's just plain wrong. Levitt and co-author Stephen Dubner are not global warming deniers, as is the above mentioned wing nut moron Beck.

They are just examining other methods of achieving climatic cooling other than carbon reduction. And their's is a more technological approach than the "let's all eat our veggies and turn out the lights" mantra of the ideologically pure left.

Writes Levitt:"Reducing carbon emissions is not a great way of cooling the Earth in a hurry for two key reasons: (1) even if we cut carbon emissions today, the Earth will continue warming for decades; and (2) reducing carbon emissions is expensive, with a price tag of at least $1 trillion per year.

"A much better approach, we conclude, is geoengineering. The scientific evidence suggests that either the stratoshield or increased oceanic clouds would have a large and immediate impact on cooling the Earth, unlike carbon-emission reductions. The cost of these solutions is trivial compared to the cost of lowering carbon emissions — literally thousands of times cheaper!"

It is a religious-like height of folly to hold on to one and one only solution to global climate change and warming. After all human stupidity knows no boundaries in regards to education, socio-economic class or generation.

So when it comes to solving the greatest dilemma facing the current generations and those of the future, all avenues of research must be explored.

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I'm Buying!
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Posted by: Eric.Arthur.Blair on Oct 30, 2009 2:52 PM   
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"...my last meal will be a giant steak."

Glenn, my boy, I will personally buy you the biggest steak in town if you promise that it will be you absolutely last meal.

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Articles Like This Make Beck Look Reasonable
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Posted by: ChicagoWay on Oct 30, 2009 4:03 PM   
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The far left will NEVER learn.

Most "normal" people (read voters) view radical Vegans about like they view the average Martian.

Vegan and PETA preachers will spend endless amounts of energy - and ink in AlterNet's case - trying to force their religion on others. They often remind me of the Seventh-Day Adventist that will not leave your door step until you take one of their pamphlets ....or slam the door in their face.

They easily fit right in with the other eco-religionist and Marxist social reformers that have hijacked the environmental movement. They are absolutely determined to re-make society in their own image. In reality all they do is turn “normal” people off – including real environmentalist that want real solutions.

If I have to choose between them and a meat eating Beck - please pass the A-1 Sauce.

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Today is Stay Home Saturday.
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Posted by: Beck on Oct 31, 2009 6:32 AM   
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The whole cannot match the American habit of taking off on Saturdays to get out of town, hike, kayak, or stay in town and go to plays or concerts or out to dinner. If everyone had weekends like ours, the planet and its resources could not sustain it. Therefore, I declare today Stay Home Saturday, and all Saturdays are now Stay Home Saturdays. All Sundays are Stay Home Sundays. You can add "and Sulk" after "Stay Home" if you like.

Now, sometimes I personally stay home on Saturdays, but today I am not. However, if all of you do, I can remain firm in my idea about this and not feel too guilty, or guilty at all. OR I can do this: do everything I was planning to do on Saturdays on some other day. THAT will work!

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fish on friday
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Posted by: mattylou on Oct 31, 2009 6:39 AM   
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There was a time when all public schools served fish (sticks) on Fri. as accomodation to Catholic students & because it didn't friggin hurt anyone. Meatless Mondays is a fine idea. Just get the hysterical parents out of the way.

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Yes, Beck...
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Posted by: Rusty Shackleford on Oct 31, 2009 7:37 AM   
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Children are just going to turn into mindless liberal zombies if they don't chow down on mountains of meat for ONE meal on ONE day of the week.

On meatless mondays...Keep in mind...

There's absolutely nothing stopping those kids from having a full bacon/sausage breakfast before they get to school, and there's nothing stopping them from getting a nice big slab of steak for dinner once they're back home from school.

Glenn Beck is quite literally, protesting going meatless for ONE meal on ONE day of the week.

Why is this bitter, resentful little man still allowed to be on the air?
Oh yeah...
Because it would be an unforgivable crime to put a liberal talk show host on the air instead.

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Meatless Mondays?
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Posted by: Longdream on Oct 31, 2009 7:38 AM   
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Is Glenn Beck running out of things to bitch about?

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I figured the reason for this bizare agenda - Glann Beck IS a vegetable
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Posted by: charles000 on Oct 31, 2009 6:41 PM   
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I figured the reason for this bizare agenda - Glann Beck IS a vegetable

I would offer that this dubious character who fancies himself as some sort of "talent" of the talk show radio universe, really does possess the attributes of over cooked, boiled okra.

Okra, when over cooked, becomes a seedy, slimy, gelatinous mass which is putrid smelling, and looking.

My only reservation in making such an assessment is that this is a bit unfair to the okra . . . but I digress

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Peanut butter sandwiches
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Posted by: BlueTigress on Nov 1, 2009 10:08 AM   
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A simple meatless lunch that will not cause anyone to bat an eye.

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perhaps beck will develop complications from his diet that will make it
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Posted by: smadaj on Nov 1, 2009 10:47 PM   
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impossible for him to continue his insane, inflammatory ranting.

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Aside from the ethics of it, it's just not very healthy to eat meat these days.
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Posted by: LightningJoe on Nov 2, 2009 5:07 PM   
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Unless you get your meat from non-farmed sources, or from those who actively choose only natural feeds for their stock, you are getting chemicals in every bite, that you would never choose to ingest by themselves.

Such as artificial growth hormones. Such as the built-up doses of antibiotics, meant to control the sicknesses caused by inhumane conditions of confinement. Such as the antibiotic-resistant organisms that are evolved by such practices.

This is what causes cancers; much more than the consumption of the meat itself. Humans live a long time, and our fat bio-concentrates everything we eat that can't be excreted by natural processes. The artificially-manufactured bio-mimitec hormones we ingest with our meat build up in our tissues, and sooner or later induce coding errors in our DNA, leading to cancers.

Supporting the cruel manufacture of meat gives us cancer.

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For what seems like the fifteen billionth time...
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Posted by: dseilhan on Nov 4, 2009 9:21 AM   
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...The American diet is not a "meat-dominated diet." It's a GRAIN-dominated diet. Even, I daresay, a SOY-dominated diet. But it IS NOT dominated by meat. Have you looked at the prices of meat lately or has your diet choice excused you from ever doing research before you write about food? With everything else that Americans also eat, there's no way they can eat huge amounts of meat without breaking the bank unless they're upper-middle-class or higher-income than that.

It looks like huge amounts of meat to you, in the same way a bucket of water looks like a lot of water to someone who has recently staggered out of the desert. But really, we could eat a lot more animal foods than we do, and we could eat a lot more varied animal foods than we do. It is argued by those with more sense than PETA that one of the reasons so many of us are malnourished now is that we think organ meats are yucky. There are people who can't turn beta carotene into vitamin A (i.e., diabetics and the hypothyroid, among others), so most of us not liking liver anymore is a big problem.

Indigenous people who ate meat (in other words, all of them) did not limit themselves to lean muscle. They deliberately targeted older animals because older animals have more body fat. (Now you know why predator animals eat elderly grazers.) And they always had at least a few organ meats they considered delicacies, even if they didn't eat all of them.

We've gone so far away from that now, it's no wonder we're sick. And vegetarians don't get a free pass. You're feeling better now because you've dropped a lot of junk out of your diets--any fool can see that. But I have yet to meet a vegan who's done it for fifty years, I have NEVER run across a story about a centenarian who's been vegetarian their whole life and I have noticed there are an awful lot of "natural living" publications that both push vegetarianism and publish articles about allergies, food sensitivities and infertility on a regular basis. I don't think that's a coincidence, and I believe it's only a matter of time before people who eschew animal foods wind up with serious health problems.

The sad part is that you're right about things like factory farming. Some of us meat-eaters are right behind you on that one. Just yesterday Ohio passed Issue 2 which pretty much entrenches factory farming in this state until someone gets up enough support to change the state constitution again. All the PETA people are wringing their hands, but some of us meat-eaters are very unhappy as well and one of the biggest meat-eater support groups, the Weston A. Price Foundation, also opposed the measure.

You make enemies of us by lying about human nutritional needs and calling us fata--es and blaming us for global warming when both vegetarians and conscientious meat-eaters have concern for human health and welfare, and some meat-eaters, gasp, even care about the planet.

Beck's right that schools are a hotbed of indoctrination. That was the whole point for setting them up. Children are quite capable of learning all on their own, although they learn best with some adult guidance, so the only good reason for forcing schooling is to turn out standardized minds that support the state, unearned authority, unfettered capitalism and out-of-control consumerism. Beck would be appalled to hear me say that, but I'm saying it anyway, and lots of people--conservatives and liberals--agree with me. This diet thing is one reason I am homeschooling my daughter, in fact. I won't allow strangers to lie to her about what foods are best for her. Period.

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beck flips out on his writers
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Posted by: techcafe on Nov 13, 2009 8:22 PM   
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glenn beck hates cats

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Watch Out, the Above Link might be a Virus
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Posted by: jreal on Oct 30, 2009 1:13 AM   
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Don't trust anyone posting random links.

Can someone please remove this whole Post.

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Posted by: MMarauder on Oct 30, 2009 4:25 AM   
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a fellow sock puppet.

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You are what you eat......
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Posted by: peterjkraus on Oct 30, 2009 4:29 AM   
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and pale, doughy, chubby Glenn Beck eats shit with his "American Birthright Burger". The more burgere, the more shit.

Ergo....

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it's like this...
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Posted by: ThomasJefferson on Oct 30, 2009 5:55 AM   
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repukes and libratarians hate government and it's "control" over the people of this nation, but heaven forbid, that anyone one gets between them and their subsidized beef, look out.

like most of those right wing tools, they only hate government things that don't concern them.

I would love to see how they would keep the roads repaired if they ever got their way.

morons

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Nothing wrong here?
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Posted by: bandofotters on Oct 30, 2009 6:06 AM   
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How far can they take this? Can they forbid kids from bringing in a balogna sandwich on a Monday? Would there be a zero tolerance policy involved? ...two-week out of school suspension. Will there be signs posted on Monday morning and taken down Monday evening reading "Meat Free Zone"? Will I be able to be within a 1,000 feet of a school on a Monday as I walk home with my KFC take-out order? If I live within a half-mile of a school will I have to register as a Monday meat-eater offender?

Can they move it to Fridays out of respect to Catholics who may still practise the tradition or would there be some violation of separation of church & state (whatever that means)?

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Drama Queen Beck
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Posted by: freshlemon on Oct 30, 2009 6:21 AM   
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Beck is breaking the "man-mold" with his drama queen rhetoric and tears.

Since when does eating healthy food without meat equal indoctrination? Indoctrination to what? Healthy eating?

Eating meat is the "manly" way I guess for a simpering coward like him. It will take a lot more than eating meat for old pasty face to be manly. I,for one,would like to see him eat a lot of crow.

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Climate change will change our diets
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Posted by: ebishirl on Oct 30, 2009 6:48 AM   
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The author correctly points out that meat production is closely linked to both our fossil fuel addiction and the rising level of greenhouse gases. If we don't act soon to address those two problems, the results will change our diets for us, like it or not.

In fact, a report released just this week found that climate inaction will lead to dramatically higher food prices in the UK, largely because environmental stresses will lead to reduced yields of staple food crops like wheat and rice. It warns that Britons could be paying £6.50 for a loaf of bread and £18 for a pint of beer by the year 2030.

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There is no "animal flesh fetish"
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Posted by: Beck on Oct 30, 2009 7:01 AM   
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Why does anything think they won't lose most of their audience with a loaded description like that? Loaded, judgmental, and invented. I still think it's complete arrogance for any humans to assume we decide our own biology and can choose our biological needs. But I think it's okay for anyone to decide their own diet. Since only a tiny percentage of you even claim to be vegetarians, and since in my observation only a small percentage of you who claim that actually avoid all meat, maybe it's long past time to lay off the loaded language and judgement. To me, this argument against meat is just an excuse and straw man. Hardly anyone has a truly meat-free diet. You can't be a little bit pregnant, you can't almost be a non-smoker, and you can't be a sometimes vegetarian. For people to continue to base all environmental hopes for the future upon something that cannot and will not happen shows an unwillingness to actually change and improve the dire prognosis for the planet. How about we all give up all driving? Give up clothes dryers entirely? How about a series of articles saying all thermostats all winter long must be set at 58 (after all, most of the world can't achieve a winterlong temperature of 58 any more than the same people can eat meat every day) and no one can use air conditioning any more?

Actually, I think we could give all those a shot. It is human life on the planet we're talking about. But the point I'm making is why continue choosing things that will not happen? We could choose thermostats at 58. We can't "choose" vegetarianism except for the period of time we're living off our stores of iron and B12 or using supplements to delude ourselves. Go ahead, project impossible scenarios and then claim only that scenario will save us. It's the worst, laziest, most futile attempt possible.

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Dems are generally more supportive of animal issues
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Posted by: vasumurti on Oct 30, 2009 7:02 AM   
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Kathleen Marquardt, founded Putting People First, an anti-animal rights group. In her 1993 book, Animal Scam: The Beastly Abuse of Human Rights, she says:

"The real agenda of this movement is not to give rights to animals, but to take rights from people—to dictate our food, clothing, work, recreation, and whether we will discover new medications or die."

Identical assertions could have been made about the abolition of human slavery, the crusade to end child labor, the liberation of concentration camp prisoners from Nazi physicians or an end to the experimentation upon black humans by white humans.

Marquardt writes that the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (ASPCA) "now encourages vegetarianism, the banning of fur, and the eventual end to all animal research, not just ‘cruel’ animal research." Marquardt writes that the Humane Society now supports vegetarianism.

According to Marquardt, "The typical animal rights activist is a white woman making about $30,000 a year. She is most likely a schoolteacher, nurse, or government worker. She usually has a college degree or even an advanced degree, is in her thirties or forties, and lives in a city."

Marquardt cites studies indicating that animal rights activists tend to identify with liberal causes such as feminism and environmentalism. "Every year," writes the Reverend Andrew Linzey, author of Christianity and the Rights of Animals, "I receive hundreds of anguished letters from Christians who are so distressed by the insensitivity to animals shown by mainstream churches that they have left them or are on the verge of doing so." It is not surprising, therefore, that Marquardt reports that "Most activists share a bias against Western civilization and its Judeo-Christian foundations."

According to Marquardt, the "political clout" of the animal rights movement "is surprisingly bipartisan. But most of the leading politicians working with the animal rights movement are liberal Democrats." Marquardt mentions Senator Barbara Boxer of California, Nevada Congressman Jim Bilbray, Charlie Rose of North Carolina, Tom Lantos and Gerry Studds.

Marquardt admits, however, "some Republicans are animal rightists, too. Senate Minority Leader Bob Dole of Kansas often supports animal rights causes—except, of course, those pertaining to cattle, a major business in Kansas. Senator Robert Smith of New Hampshire was a founder of the Congressional Friends of Animals. Bob Dornan of California, one of the most conservative House members, is an animal rights advocate—he cosponsored legislation banning the use of animals in testing cosmetics and received a PETA award. And Manhattan Congressman Bill Green promoted legislation that would have shut down over 90 million acres of federal land to hunting, fishing, and trapping."

Marquardt states further that "Although he’s not an elected official, a conservative political figure who, surprisingly, is on the other side is G. Gordon Liddy, author Will and a key figure in the 1972 Watergate uproar. When I went on Liddy’s radio show, he and PETA’s Ingrid Newkirk greeted each other with hugs and kisses and lots of warm words.

"With allies in both political parties and across the ideological spectrum," concludes Marquardt, "the animal rights movement has been able to score some great successes, regardless of which party controls the White House or Capitol Hill."

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Alternet is Beck's greatest advertising agent
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Posted by: moloko velocet on Oct 30, 2009 7:03 AM   
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I read Alternet every day...and ya know what?... the only information concerning Glen Beck (or Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reilly, or any of the rest of the various wing-nut demagogues) is from Alternet. Glen Beck, et al have no need to employ publicists...they have Alternet. Alternet do more to "get the message out" (to people who otherwise wouldn't ever here it) than Fox News!

Seriously, I've never once watched or listened to any of these idiots...and don't really care one whit, about their agenda-driven propaganda. I wholly dismiss them in the same way I do an irritating commercial. I believe, at this point, that everyone who peruses this site (who is not a wing-nut troll) fully understands these people, and have the same opinion of them.

Why then, do we have at least one article per week decrying the latest glurp spewed by Beck or one of the others? Rehashing (and re-posting) the same invectives every week is perfectly pointless.

Switch it off....and ignore them...you're not going to stop them, and they're not going away.

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Just Fucking Stop!
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Posted by: Augustus_818 on Oct 30, 2009 7:15 AM   
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Hold on there Alternet. Glenn Beck is NOT, I repeat NOT A LIBERTARIAN. I love how you two retards like to beat on each other. But please, for the love of Holy Fucking Jeebus, stop trying to shunt your problems onto the one group of people who might actually be trying to salvage something out of this whole debacle we call the USA. That is all.

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Meaty mindset
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Posted by: w0x0f on Oct 30, 2009 7:39 AM   
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The eat-meat mindset was spotlighted perfectly on this week's episode of Top Chef.

Challenged to create a veggie menu, only one (IIRC) of the chefs managed to remember that even vegetarians need protein, and whipped up a nice lentil dish to go with whatever else was on the plate.

The others created nice veggie dishes that would have served as side dishes on a meat-eaters' menu.

Get a clue, people, and get familiar with the concept of providing protein with creative grain and legume dishes.

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An inconvenient truth
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Posted by: ClaudineMe on Oct 30, 2009 8:00 AM   
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It is a well-known fact that vegeterianism/veganism is better for one's health (very important for children!)and for the environment. Why are so many people dragging their feet in adopting such a diet at least once a week? It's a win-win proposition. I applaud schools with a conscience.

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P.S.
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Posted by: ClaudineMe on Oct 30, 2009 8:08 AM   
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...and I can't wait for Jonathan Safran Foer's new book "Eating Animals" to come out! Bon Appetit!

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Beck
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Posted by: Bushmaster on Oct 30, 2009 8:11 AM   
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My dad had a name for people like him it was 'knucklehead'.

What's scarier than Beck is that there are enough people out there to make him a profitable commodity.

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Glenn Beck is NOT a libertarian
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Posted by: leftinAK on Oct 30, 2009 8:51 AM   
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Listen.
I hate Glenn Beck just as much as the next intelligent individual.
But AlterNet!
Please get out of this rut of publishing authors who whine instead of write.
Beck is far from being a libertarian and this "MOOOOOOOM!!! Glen is bothering me again!" bullshit is getting sickening.
REAL JOURNALISM PLEASE

thank you.

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What is he covering up?
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Posted by: Sister_Lauren on Oct 30, 2009 9:20 AM   
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Beck is a noise machine to keep us from noticing the stuff like this,

2002, Brit Diplomat in Uzbekistan Witnessed CIA Rendition Flights, Proof of Torture

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"just eat vegetables" != "eat just vegetables"
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Posted by: nousername on Oct 30, 2009 10:23 AM   
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"just eat vegetables" is not the same as "eat just vegetables"

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Glen Beck is one of the true threats to the 'system'
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Posted by: The_Lazy_Left on Oct 30, 2009 12:03 PM   
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hence the need of Alternet (George Soros) to ridicule him.

If you take off your blinders you will see Beck attacks Republicans more than you currently think. This suggests that to some extent Beck isn't a "system man."

Beck challenges people to shake the system up - which is a threat to so called left wing sites like Alternet who prefer a passive sheeple approach.

Notice that Alternet never leads a collective group action? The function of Alternet is too provide a vent for the frustrations of the left, rendering them less potent.

You might counter that Alternet publishes articles which attack corporate America. So what? you think a pin prick goes noticed? The banking industry could care less.

George Soros is the founder and primary financial supporter of Alternet. Do you think he wants you to change the system? Think again.

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He attacks Republicans but not in the same way as Democrats
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Posted by: Changling on Oct 30, 2009 12:21 PM   
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For the former they just aren't right wing enough for him. Hence his support for the reich wing Know Nothing Conservative Party man running in NY. Too many listen to him and his distorted message that Progressives are fascists and they want to take over the country. Or are they socialists? He's just not sure about that. He is sure that they need to be stopped. Just not with violence he says now. Anyone who supports the likes of Sara Palin is dangerous.

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Look, Beck's a contrarian
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Posted by: ETSpoon on Oct 30, 2009 1:52 PM   
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If some "liberal" organization or other said a meat-only diet was the only way to save the planet, Glenn Beck would preach veganism.

It's as simple as that.

As far as Steven Levitt being a "climate-change contrarian", that's a misrepresentation and...well it's just plain wrong. Levitt and co-author Stephen Dubner are not global warming deniers, as is the above mentioned wing nut moron Beck.

They are just examining other methods of achieving climatic cooling other than carbon reduction. And their's is a more technological approach than the "let's all eat our veggies and turn out the lights" mantra of the ideologically pure left.

Writes Levitt:"Reducing carbon emissions is not a great way of cooling the Earth in a hurry for two key reasons: (1) even if we cut carbon emissions today, the Earth will continue warming for decades; and (2) reducing carbon emissions is expensive, with a price tag of at least $1 trillion per year.

"A much better approach, we conclude, is geoengineering. The scientific evidence suggests that either the stratoshield or increased oceanic clouds would have a large and immediate impact on cooling the Earth, unlike carbon-emission reductions. The cost of these solutions is trivial compared to the cost of lowering carbon emissions — literally thousands of times cheaper!"

It is a religious-like height of folly to hold on to one and one only solution to global climate change and warming. After all human stupidity knows no boundaries in regards to education, socio-economic class or generation.

So when it comes to solving the greatest dilemma facing the current generations and those of the future, all avenues of research must be explored.

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I'm Buying!
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Posted by: Eric.Arthur.Blair on Oct 30, 2009 2:52 PM   
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"...my last meal will be a giant steak."

Glenn, my boy, I will personally buy you the biggest steak in town if you promise that it will be you absolutely last meal.

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Articles Like This Make Beck Look Reasonable
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Posted by: ChicagoWay on Oct 30, 2009 4:03 PM   
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The far left will NEVER learn.

Most "normal" people (read voters) view radical Vegans about like they view the average Martian.

Vegan and PETA preachers will spend endless amounts of energy - and ink in AlterNet's case - trying to force their religion on others. They often remind me of the Seventh-Day Adventist that will not leave your door step until you take one of their pamphlets ....or slam the door in their face.

They easily fit right in with the other eco-religionist and Marxist social reformers that have hijacked the environmental movement. They are absolutely determined to re-make society in their own image. In reality all they do is turn “normal” people off – including real environmentalist that want real solutions.

If I have to choose between them and a meat eating Beck - please pass the A-1 Sauce.

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Today is Stay Home Saturday.
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Posted by: Beck on Oct 31, 2009 6:32 AM   
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The whole cannot match the American habit of taking off on Saturdays to get out of town, hike, kayak, or stay in town and go to plays or concerts or out to dinner. If everyone had weekends like ours, the planet and its resources could not sustain it. Therefore, I declare today Stay Home Saturday, and all Saturdays are now Stay Home Saturdays. All Sundays are Stay Home Sundays. You can add "and Sulk" after "Stay Home" if you like.

Now, sometimes I personally stay home on Saturdays, but today I am not. However, if all of you do, I can remain firm in my idea about this and not feel too guilty, or guilty at all. OR I can do this: do everything I was planning to do on Saturdays on some other day. THAT will work!

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fish on friday
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Posted by: mattylou on Oct 31, 2009 6:39 AM   
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There was a time when all public schools served fish (sticks) on Fri. as accomodation to Catholic students & because it didn't friggin hurt anyone. Meatless Mondays is a fine idea. Just get the hysterical parents out of the way.

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Yes, Beck...
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Posted by: Rusty Shackleford on Oct 31, 2009 7:37 AM   
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Children are just going to turn into mindless liberal zombies if they don't chow down on mountains of meat for ONE meal on ONE day of the week.

On meatless mondays...Keep in mind...

There's absolutely nothing stopping those kids from having a full bacon/sausage breakfast before they get to school, and there's nothing stopping them from getting a nice big slab of steak for dinner once they're back home from school.

Glenn Beck is quite literally, protesting going meatless for ONE meal on ONE day of the week.

Why is this bitter, resentful little man still allowed to be on the air?
Oh yeah...
Because it would be an unforgivable crime to put a liberal talk show host on the air instead.

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Meatless Mondays?
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Posted by: Longdream on Oct 31, 2009 7:38 AM   
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Is Glenn Beck running out of things to bitch about?

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I figured the reason for this bizare agenda - Glann Beck IS a vegetable
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Posted by: charles000 on Oct 31, 2009 6:41 PM   
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I figured the reason for this bizare agenda - Glann Beck IS a vegetable

I would offer that this dubious character who fancies himself as some sort of "talent" of the talk show radio universe, really does possess the attributes of over cooked, boiled okra.

Okra, when over cooked, becomes a seedy, slimy, gelatinous mass which is putrid smelling, and looking.

My only reservation in making such an assessment is that this is a bit unfair to the okra . . . but I digress

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Peanut butter sandwiches
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Posted by: BlueTigress on Nov 1, 2009 10:08 AM   
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A simple meatless lunch that will not cause anyone to bat an eye.

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perhaps beck will develop complications from his diet that will make it
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Posted by: smadaj on Nov 1, 2009 10:47 PM   
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impossible for him to continue his insane, inflammatory ranting.

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Aside from the ethics of it, it's just not very healthy to eat meat these days.
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Posted by: LightningJoe on Nov 2, 2009 5:07 PM   
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Unless you get your meat from non-farmed sources, or from those who actively choose only natural feeds for their stock, you are getting chemicals in every bite, that you would never choose to ingest by themselves.

Such as artificial growth hormones. Such as the built-up doses of antibiotics, meant to control the sicknesses caused by inhumane conditions of confinement. Such as the antibiotic-resistant organisms that are evolved by such practices.

This is what causes cancers; much more than the consumption of the meat itself. Humans live a long time, and our fat bio-concentrates everything we eat that can't be excreted by natural processes. The artificially-manufactured bio-mimitec hormones we ingest with our meat build up in our tissues, and sooner or later induce coding errors in our DNA, leading to cancers.

Supporting the cruel manufacture of meat gives us cancer.

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For what seems like the fifteen billionth time...
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Posted by: dseilhan on Nov 4, 2009 9:21 AM   
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...The American diet is not a "meat-dominated diet." It's a GRAIN-dominated diet. Even, I daresay, a SOY-dominated diet. But it IS NOT dominated by meat. Have you looked at the prices of meat lately or has your diet choice excused you from ever doing research before you write about food? With everything else that Americans also eat, there's no way they can eat huge amounts of meat without breaking the bank unless they're upper-middle-class or higher-income than that.

It looks like huge amounts of meat to you, in the same way a bucket of water looks like a lot of water to someone who has recently staggered out of the desert. But really, we could eat a lot more animal foods than we do, and we could eat a lot more varied animal foods than we do. It is argued by those with more sense than PETA that one of the reasons so many of us are malnourished now is that we think organ meats are yucky. There are people who can't turn beta carotene into vitamin A (i.e., diabetics and the hypothyroid, among others), so most of us not liking liver anymore is a big problem.

Indigenous people who ate meat (in other words, all of them) did not limit themselves to lean muscle. They deliberately targeted older animals because older animals have more body fat. (Now you know why predator animals eat elderly grazers.) And they always had at least a few organ meats they considered delicacies, even if they didn't eat all of them.

We've gone so far away from that now, it's no wonder we're sick. And vegetarians don't get a free pass. You're feeling better now because you've dropped a lot of junk out of your diets--any fool can see that. But I have yet to meet a vegan who's done it for fifty years, I have NEVER run across a story about a centenarian who's been vegetarian their whole life and I have noticed there are an awful lot of "natural living" publications that both push vegetarianism and publish articles about allergies, food sensitivities and infertility on a regular basis. I don't think that's a coincidence, and I believe it's only a matter of time before people who eschew animal foods wind up with serious health problems.

The sad part is that you're right about things like factory farming. Some of us meat-eaters are right behind you on that one. Just yesterday Ohio passed Issue 2 which pretty much entrenches factory farming in this state until someone gets up enough support to change the state constitution again. All the PETA people are wringing their hands, but some of us meat-eaters are very unhappy as well and one of the biggest meat-eater support groups, the Weston A. Price Foundation, also opposed the measure.

You make enemies of us by lying about human nutritional needs and calling us fata--es and blaming us for global warming when both vegetarians and conscientious meat-eaters have concern for human health and welfare, and some meat-eaters, gasp, even care about the planet.

Beck's right that schools are a hotbed of indoctrination. That was the whole point for setting them up. Children are quite capable of learning all on their own, although they learn best with some adult guidance, so the only good reason for forcing schooling is to turn out standardized minds that support the state, unearned authority, unfettered capitalism and out-of-control consumerism. Beck would be appalled to hear me say that, but I'm saying it anyway, and lots of people--conservatives and liberals--agree with me. This diet thing is one reason I am homeschooling my daughter, in fact. I won't allow strangers to lie to her about what foods are best for her. Period.

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beck flips out on his writers
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Posted by: techcafe on Nov 13, 2009 8:22 PM   
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glenn beck hates cats

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