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Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann Slam Fox News Propaganda About Their Meeting with Obama
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Recently Fox news commentators pointed to a meeting between President Obama and liberal commentators including Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann as evidence that the President has a special -- and unfair -- relationship with left-leaning media. In the segment below, Maddow and Olbermann hit back, pointing to out that unlike Bush, who invited only conservative media stars to the White House, Obama has met with both liberals and conservatives. Transcript below:
RACHEL MADDOW: Since Mr. Olbermann and I have been brought into this story by FOX News in this national story of White House versus FOX News, FOX News has decided to bring us into it, let‘s set the record straight here on what‘s being alleged and how the presidential -- how various presidential administrations handle the media.
I have been in national talk radio since 2004. And during the Bush administration, I tried many times to get myself invitations to the White House when they held White House availabilities for administration staff or even meetings with the president for talk radio hosts. And although these meetings were billed as talk radio meetings, just talk radio meetings, they were always, in practice, during the Bush administration, exclusively for right-wing talk radio hosts. So, I could never get an invitation, much to my chagrin.
[...]
This is what the Bush administration did and they had every right to do it. They invited in talk radio hosts and columnists who agreed with them. And all of us who didn‘t agree with them were out of luck.
Well, now, it‘s the Obama era. And, frankly, I did get an invitation to the White House. And the Obama administration also meets with conservatives, too. The last meeting like this that I was invited to was back in January, just before President Obama was inaugurated. It was roughly the same group of people who attended the meeting this week, give or take a few additions and subtractions.
We met at the Obama transition office back in January. You want to know what happened the day after our meeting with the president-elect, he went to a gathering of conservative commentators at George Will‘s house in Chevy Chase, Maryland. “Washington Post” wrote it up at that time, they said, quote, “During a three hour dinner conclave, Obama charmed eight of the right‘s most prominent commentators.” According to an Obama adviser that time, “Obama enjoys debating his ideological opponents more than his allies and plans further meetings with journalists of varying stripes during his term.”
Liberals could not get an invitation to meet with President Bush to save our lives. President Obama is now inviting us in -- and he‘s also been talking to people on the right.
You can be upset all you want that the president meets with people who you disagree with. But consider being fair and balanced in your criticism, at least admit that this White House has met with both sides while the Bush White House did not. You should especially admit that if you happened to have been a member of the Bush White House during that administration.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
KARL ROVE, FMR. BUSH SENIOR ADVISOR: It is demeaning the office of the president by taking the president and moving him from a person who want to be talking to everybody and communicating through every available channel, but saying, “If you oppose me, if you question me, if you‘re too tough on me, by gosh, me and my people are not going -- are not going to come out, we‘re going penalize you.” And that‘s just is wrong, fundamentally wrong.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MADDOW: If you‘re too tough on me, me and my people are not going to come on.
According to Mr. Rove, that sort of punishment is fundamentally wrong -- that‘s something the Bush White House would never have done, right, former Bush White House Press Secretary Dana Perino?
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
DANA PERINO, FMR. WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: Believe me there, were some people who really wanted me from the podium to go after MSNBC. And I just thought it was a bridge too far.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And not only did you not go after them, you gave them interviews as did the president, gave them all interviews.
PERINO: Well, towards the end, we didn‘t do a lot with MSNBC.
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Posted by: Laffing Garfield on Oct 27, 2009 4:08 AM
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» those lovely chicks on Fox?
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» RE: those lovely chicks on Fox?
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» RE: those lovely chicks on Fox?
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» RE: Maddow must be jealous of those lovely chicks on Fox chipping away at her ratings.
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» RE: Maddow must be jealous of those lovely chicks on Fox chipping away at her ratings.
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» You mean Ann "the Man" Coulter...?
Posted by: CanuckKid
» RE: Maddow must be jealous of those lovely chicks on Fox chipping away at her ratings.
Posted by: peacefullaim1
» That's my cousin Laffing ! He loves watching Fox News and soap operas.
Posted by: FLYING DOOFUS
» DANG COUSIN LAFFING ! You up so early ! I'll still stick to watching cartoons.
Posted by: FLYING DOOFUS
» You're a sexist BIGOT...FYI Maddow is a LESBIAN dumbass
Posted by: smc31569
» Now now, be nice to cousin Laffing or else
Posted by: FLYING DOOFUS
» RE: Laffing Garfield must love being constantly lied to as they did in this case.
Posted by: robbb3rt
» Now now, be nice to cousin Laffing or else
Posted by: FLYING DOOFUS
» RE:Why Are You Guys Arguing With A Fat Orange Tabby?
Posted by: desidid
» Now now, be nice to cousin Laffing or else
Posted by: FLYING DOOFUS
» RE: Maddow must be jealous of those lovely chicks on Fox chipping away at her ratings.
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» RE: Maddow must be jealous of those lovely chicks on Fox chipping away at her ratings.
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» typical bomb thrower
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Posted by: bigbrother on Oct 27, 2009 5:02 AM
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But that aside, the real problem isn't that they are getting an audience with the president and Fox isn't.
It's that Obama s so thin skinned to stoop so low to single out a news organization because they have the nerve to be critical of him.
Presidents are supposed to lead by example and show a higher morality, not stick their tongue out and cry!
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» RE: Obama in the gutter
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» i think you're mistaking obama for bush
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» RE: Obama in the gutter
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» who in the gutter?
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» RE: who in the gutter?
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» Another "comment" from someone who didn't read the article
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» RE: Obama in the gutter
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» Thin Skinned? Another Righty, Wrong Again
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» RE: Obama in the gutter
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» RE: BigBrother of little brain-no information concerning reality
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» RE: GOP in the gutter. GWB Motivational speech now reduced to $4.50!
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» RE: Obama in the gutter
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Posted by: timenotonmyside on Oct 27, 2009 5:36 AM
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Posted by: james108 on Oct 27, 2009 6:59 AM
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It was obvious with Obama and Bush that they try hard to restrict the questions they're asked. It was super obvious during the election, and why Obama refused to do a google sponsored alternative debate with Nader and the other two candidates on the national ballots, statistically. It's the only way people like Bush and Obama keep up the sham, by restricting people and questions that punch holes in their PR.
I wouldn't call anyone in the media crowed that pretends Obama is listening to liberals and conservatives either or.
We can't discuss single payer, we can't debate a universal fee schedule. Shut up about the Patriot Act. The Afghan war is the "right war" now, what are you talking about you pansy liberals. It costs too much conservatives, whaaat?
Come on, even copyright draft treaties and space rocks are national security off limits from American citizen analysis and input. Let's get back to fighting each other for the crumbs while Goldman and big insurance/pharma/medco take the pie, as the choice Obama gives liberals and conservatives is shut up and take it, or loudly support it and pretend you're a winner.
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Posted by: Lizzzarde on Oct 27, 2009 7:08 AM
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» Here's a concept: try READING the article...
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Posted by: ZPaul on Oct 27, 2009 7:34 AM
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Oct 27, 2009 8:25 AM
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Keith is right, it really is PTSD on the right! For the 8 years that they occupied the office ran rough-shod over the Constitution, lied, manipulated intelligence, outted a covert CIA agent (& so far that's just what we know)- I guess I too would want to forget that I almost destroyed a people and the nation (that I'd sworn to protect) for private gain!
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» Because Bush did it is never an excuse...
Posted by: james108
» RE: Obama didn't say he will manipulate or manufacture news.
Posted by: desidid
» But he does it anyway
Posted by: james108
» RE: But he does it anyway
Posted by: Lex Thomas
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Posted by: willymack on Oct 27, 2009 8:50 AM
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Why, the knowlege that the bushie years are gone, and people with BRAINS are in charge.
Is it any wonder that smart people hang out with their own kind, just as fox noise hangs with numbskulls and hate-filled screamers?
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» RE: So, what's bad about fox noise? You Love this...
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Posted by: on Oct 27, 2009 9:11 AM
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If the big bad lying fox has trampled through the barnyard, eating stray chicks, lying about the roosters & hens, destroying & deleting any/all barnyard rights, masking-taped tin can listening devices to the coop walls, drafting innocent teenaged chicken "volunteers" to fight in vague, but deadly, distant village wars (where the enemy has illeged flit sprayers & & anti-Tyson® protest marchers) ... after eight years of that, would YOU accept an Invitation to visit & chat with those same lying & sneaky foxes in their own den?
Nope.
m. swof.
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Posted by: marat on Oct 27, 2009 12:01 PM
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» BS
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Posted by: MotherLodeBeth on Oct 27, 2009 1:19 PM
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The only CNN show from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. that did not finish last was Larry King, which was third, ahead of the new Joy Behar show on HLN. But Sean Hannity’s show on Fox News had a huge lead with 659,000 viewers in that age group. Second was Rachel Maddow on MSNBC with 242,000.
Mr. King averaged 224,000 and Ms. Behar 181,000.
One would think that insulting most Americans wouldnt be a wise move for MSNBC. The article notes 'CNN, which invented the cable news network more than two decades ago, will hit a new competitive low with its prime-time programs in October, finishing fourth – and last – among the cable news networks with the audience that all the networks rely on for their advertising'.
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» DING DING DING ! 3 cheers for Beth and a free pizza and a beer !
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» RE: Since It Would Be Safe To Say A Majority Of Americans Have TV's
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» RE: A Motherlode Of Shit
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» Fox tv audience is NOT "most Americans"
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» Surprise: another Fauxphile refers to "ratings."
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Posted by: Laffing Garfield on Oct 27, 2009 4:08 AM
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» those lovely chicks on Fox?
Posted by: zipper696
» RE: those lovely chicks on Fox?
Posted by: adp3d
» RE: those lovely chicks on Fox?
Posted by: zipper696
» RE: Maddow must be jealous of those lovely chicks on Fox chipping away at her ratings.
Posted by: mkdelta69
» RE: Maddow must be jealous of those lovely chicks on Fox chipping away at her ratings.
Posted by: FLYING DOOFUS
» You mean Ann "the Man" Coulter...?
Posted by: CanuckKid
» RE: Maddow must be jealous of those lovely chicks on Fox chipping away at her ratings.
Posted by: peacefullaim1
» That's my cousin Laffing ! He loves watching Fox News and soap operas.
Posted by: FLYING DOOFUS
» DANG COUSIN LAFFING ! You up so early ! I'll still stick to watching cartoons.
Posted by: FLYING DOOFUS
» You're a sexist BIGOT...FYI Maddow is a LESBIAN dumbass
Posted by: smc31569
» Now now, be nice to cousin Laffing or else
Posted by: FLYING DOOFUS
» RE: Laffing Garfield must love being constantly lied to as they did in this case.
Posted by: robbb3rt
» Now now, be nice to cousin Laffing or else
Posted by: FLYING DOOFUS
» RE:Why Are You Guys Arguing With A Fat Orange Tabby?
Posted by: desidid
» Now now, be nice to cousin Laffing or else
Posted by: FLYING DOOFUS
» RE: Maddow must be jealous of those lovely chicks on Fox chipping away at her ratings.
Posted by: grokagain
» RE: Maddow must be jealous of those lovely chicks on Fox chipping away at her ratings.
Posted by: MindyB
» typical bomb thrower
Posted by: Nuanced
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Posted by: bigbrother on Oct 27, 2009 5:02 AM
Current rating: 1 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
But that aside, the real problem isn't that they are getting an audience with the president and Fox isn't.
It's that Obama s so thin skinned to stoop so low to single out a news organization because they have the nerve to be critical of him.
Presidents are supposed to lead by example and show a higher morality, not stick their tongue out and cry!
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» RE: Obama in the gutter
Posted by: adp3d
» RE: Obama in the gutter
Posted by: mkdelta69
» i think you're mistaking obama for bush
Posted by: dogeatdog
» RE: Obama in the gutter
Posted by: agapegirl
» who in the gutter?
Posted by: zipper696
» RE: who in the gutter?
Posted by: Aimleft
» RE: Obama in the gutter
Posted by: oroot
» Another "comment" from someone who didn't read the article
Posted by: Parcival01
» RE: Obama in the gutter
Posted by: willymack
» Thin Skinned? Another Righty, Wrong Again
Posted by: Aimleft
» RE: Obama in the gutter
Posted by: thudson
» RE: BigBrother of little brain-no information concerning reality
Posted by: Changling
» RE: GOP in the gutter. GWB Motivational speech now reduced to $4.50!
Posted by: robbb3rt
» RE: Obama in the gutter
Posted by: CptFog
» RE: Hey You Guys Remember When The Bush Admin Used The Gay Prostitute To Lob Softball Questions At
Posted by: desidid
» RE: Obama in the gutter
Posted by: MindyB
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Posted by: timenotonmyside on Oct 27, 2009 5:36 AM
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» RE: Alternet is a tool for who uses it
Posted by: Changling
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Posted by: james108 on Oct 27, 2009 6:59 AM
Current rating: 3 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
It was obvious with Obama and Bush that they try hard to restrict the questions they're asked. It was super obvious during the election, and why Obama refused to do a google sponsored alternative debate with Nader and the other two candidates on the national ballots, statistically. It's the only way people like Bush and Obama keep up the sham, by restricting people and questions that punch holes in their PR.
I wouldn't call anyone in the media crowed that pretends Obama is listening to liberals and conservatives either or.
We can't discuss single payer, we can't debate a universal fee schedule. Shut up about the Patriot Act. The Afghan war is the "right war" now, what are you talking about you pansy liberals. It costs too much conservatives, whaaat?
Come on, even copyright draft treaties and space rocks are national security off limits from American citizen analysis and input. Let's get back to fighting each other for the crumbs while Goldman and big insurance/pharma/medco take the pie, as the choice Obama gives liberals and conservatives is shut up and take it, or loudly support it and pretend you're a winner.
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» RE: Actually If You Are Trying To Win A Competition
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» RE: The meat of it
Posted by: Lex Thomas
» RE: The meat of it
Posted by: madregal
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Posted by: Lizzzarde on Oct 27, 2009 7:08 AM
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» Here's a concept: try READING the article...
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Posted by: ZPaul on Oct 27, 2009 7:34 AM
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Posted by: Spiritgirl on Oct 27, 2009 8:25 AM
Current rating: 4 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Keith is right, it really is PTSD on the right! For the 8 years that they occupied the office ran rough-shod over the Constitution, lied, manipulated intelligence, outted a covert CIA agent (& so far that's just what we know)- I guess I too would want to forget that I almost destroyed a people and the nation (that I'd sworn to protect) for private gain!
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» Because Bush did it is never an excuse...
Posted by: james108
» RE: Obama didn't say he will manipulate or manufacture news.
Posted by: desidid
» But he does it anyway
Posted by: james108
» RE: But he does it anyway
Posted by: Lex Thomas
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Posted by: willymack on Oct 27, 2009 8:50 AM
Current rating: 4 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
Why, the knowlege that the bushie years are gone, and people with BRAINS are in charge.
Is it any wonder that smart people hang out with their own kind, just as fox noise hangs with numbskulls and hate-filled screamers?
[« Reply to this comment] [Post a new comment »] [Rate this comment: 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5]
» RE: So, what's bad about fox noise? You Love this...
Posted by: smc31569
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Posted by: on Oct 27, 2009 9:11 AM
Current rating: 5 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
If the big bad lying fox has trampled through the barnyard, eating stray chicks, lying about the roosters & hens, destroying & deleting any/all barnyard rights, masking-taped tin can listening devices to the coop walls, drafting innocent teenaged chicken "volunteers" to fight in vague, but deadly, distant village wars (where the enemy has illeged flit sprayers & & anti-Tyson® protest marchers) ... after eight years of that, would YOU accept an Invitation to visit & chat with those same lying & sneaky foxes in their own den?
Nope.
m. swof.
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Posted by: marat on Oct 27, 2009 12:01 PM
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» RE: When Reading Comprehension Is Important
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» BS
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Posted by: MotherLodeBeth on Oct 27, 2009 1:19 PM
Current rating: 1 [1 = poor; 5 = excellent]
The only CNN show from 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. that did not finish last was Larry King, which was third, ahead of the new Joy Behar show on HLN. But Sean Hannity’s show on Fox News had a huge lead with 659,000 viewers in that age group. Second was Rachel Maddow on MSNBC with 242,000.
Mr. King averaged 224,000 and Ms. Behar 181,000.
One would think that insulting most Americans wouldnt be a wise move for MSNBC. The article notes 'CNN, which invented the cable news network more than two decades ago, will hit a new competitive low with its prime-time programs in October, finishing fourth – and last – among the cable news networks with the audience that all the networks rely on for their advertising'.
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» DING DING DING ! 3 cheers for Beth and a free pizza and a beer !
Posted by: Laffing Garfield
» RE: Since It Would Be Safe To Say A Majority Of Americans Have TV's
Posted by: desidid
» RE: A Motherlode Of Shit
Posted by: desidid
» Fox tv audience is NOT "most Americans"
Posted by: MindyB
» Surprise: another Fauxphile refers to "ratings."
Posted by: Parcival01
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