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5 Things the Corporate Media Don't Want You to Know About Cannabis
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Writing in the journal Science nearly four decades ago, New York State University sociologist Erich Goode documented the media's complicity in maintaining cannabis prohibition.
He observed: "[T]ests and experiments purporting to demonstrate the ravages of marijuana consumption receive enormous attention from the media, and their findings become accepted as fact by the public. But when careful refutations of such research are published, or when later findings contradict the original pathological findings, they tend to be ignored or dismissed."
A glimpse of today's mainstream media landscape indicates that little has changed -- with news outlets continuing to, at best, underreport the publication of scientific studies that undermine the federal government's longstanding pot propaganda and, at worst, ignore them all together.
Here are five recent stories the mainstream media doesn't want you to know about pot:
1. Marijuana Use Is Not Associated With a Rise in Incidences of Schizophrenia
Over the past few years, the worldwide media, as well as federal officials in the United Kingdom, Canada and the U.S. have earnestly promoted the notion that smoking pot induces mental illness.
Perhaps most notably, in 2007 the MSM reported that cannabis "could boost the risk of developing a psychotic illness later in life by about 40 percent" -- a talking point that was also actively promoted by U.S. anti-drug officials.
So, is there any truth to the claim that pot smoking is sparking a dramatic rise in mental illness? Not at all, according to the findings of a study published in July in the journal Schizophrenia Research.
Investigators at the Keele University Medical School in Britain compared trends in marijuana use and incidences of schizophrenia in the United Kingdom from 1996 to 2005. Researchers reported that the "incidence and prevalence of schizophrenia and psychoses were either stable or declining" during this period, even the use of cannabis among the general population was rising.
"[T]he expected rise in diagnoses of schizophrenia and psychoses did not occur over a 10-year period," the authors concluded. "This study does not therefore support the specific causal link between cannabis use and incidence of psychotic disorders. … This concurs with other reports indicating that increases in population cannabis use have not been followed by increases in psychotic incidence."
As of this writing, a handful of news wire reports in Australia, Canada, and the U.K. have reported on the Keele University study. Notably, no American media outlets covered the story.
2. Marijuana Smoke Doesn't Damage the Lungs Like Tobacco
Everyone knows that smoking pot is as damaging, if not more damaging, to the lungs than puffing cigarettes, right?
Wrong, according to a team of New Zealand investigators writing in the European Respiratory Journal in August.
Researchers at the University of Otago in New Zealand compared the effects of cannabis and tobacco smoke on lung function in over 1,000 adults.
They reported: "Cumulative cannabis use was associated with higher forced vital capacity [the volume of air that can forcibly be blown out after full inspiration], total lung capacity, functional residual capacity [the volume of air present in the lungs at the end of passive expiration] and residual volume.
"Cannabis was also associated with higher airways resistance but not with forced expiratory volume in one second [the maximum volume of air that can be forcibly blown out in the first second during the FVC test], forced expiratory ratio, or transfer factor. These findings were similar amongst those who did not smoke tobacco. … By contrast, tobacco use was associated with lower forced expiratory volume in one second, lower forced expiratory ratio, lower transfer factor and higher static lung volumes, but not with airways resistance."
They concluded, "Cannabis appears to have different effects on lung function to those of tobacco."
Predictably, the scientists' "inconvenient truth" was not reported in a single media outlet.
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Posted by: MattDesrochers on Sep 23, 2009 12:58 AM
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Secondly, marijuana is not a gateway drug. In the Netherlands, where marijuana is legal, the average age of a heroin addict is in the mid 30's. In the United States, it's 19. That is because when you do not separate the hard and soft drug market, you can buy your cocaine, ecstasy, and opiates from (or through) the same person that sells you your pot. In the Netherlands, coffeeshops (marijuana dispensaries) strictly forbid even the use, much less the sale, of hard drugs for fear of losing their marijuana license.
Lastly, even the mere existence of public service announcements attempting to dissuade the population from using drugs are absolutely hypocritical. The main sponsors for the "Partnership for a Drug Free America" are the tobacco, alcohol, and pharmaceutical industries. The point is: you can do as many drugs as you want, as long as they are the ones we sell to you for an immense profit; it's the untaxed drugs you need to stay away from.
Prohibition worked in the 1930's. It led to organized crime, corruption, and violence. Prohibition is doing the same now. Marijuana is illegal because hemp stood to destroy the lumber and petrochemical industry. See: hemp decorticator, Dupont, Hearst, or just hemp itself. The truth is out there.
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Posted by: Carts on Sep 23, 2009 1:17 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_J._Anslinger
http://www.drugwarrant.com /articles/why-is-marijuana-illegal/
Hemp can save the world from filthy oil products
http://www.hemp.com/
Hemp can suck in greenhouse gas
http://www.globalwarmingisreal.com/blog/2008/05/26/ industrial-hemps-silver-bullet- potential-for-reducing-greenhouse-gas/
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Posted by: DignityForAll on Sep 23, 2009 2:16 AM
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Similarly, early studies of lungs of heavy cannabis smokers found so-called pre-cancerous lesions - really just mild irritiation.
Read about the first US official cannabis expert, "bat-man" (very embarrasing for US medical science).
It's excellent that this new cannabis research is being conducted and published. Note, many of these scientists have been struggling for a long time to do this sort of research, to get PhDs, to get funding, to get respect for cannabinoid science.
Cannabis bud, hash, and cannabis cookies are openly sold in friendly "coffee shops" in Amsterdam, no problems. The same could happen in any US city tomorrow. With 900,000 Americans arrested every year, cannabis prohibition is completely unethical.
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Posted by: Tom Degan on Sep 23, 2009 4:45 AM
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NO ONE HAS EVER DIED FROM AN OVERDOSE OF MARIJUANA.
I turned fifty-one last month. In my time on this earth I have known - at the very least - two-hundred people who have died as the result of the intake of alcohol and nicotine. Funny thing. I've never known anyone to shuffle off this mortal coil from too much grass.
Rabid Blue Dogs
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Posted by: bcainw on Sep 23, 2009 4:47 AM
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Neither do I.
It has become very apparent, over the last few years, that the only form of legalization that NORML really supports is a model whereby the government grows you weed and sells it to you at "street prices" of between $300 to $500 an ounce.
Why would we accept this compromise when we could grow it for free by ourselves. Why would we want the same government, that has been busting us for the last 72 years . . . to now become our Marijuana Drug Dealer?
MERP Headquarters
The Marijuana Re-Legalization Policy Project (MRPP) = "MERP"
http://www.newagecitizen.com/MERP.htm
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Posted by: vasumurti on Sep 23, 2009 5:02 AM
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Hemp has many economic uses. It contains the longest fiber in the plant kingdom and is one of the strongest and most durable. It can be used for commercial and industrial applications, including insulation, textiles, clothing, and rope. The fiber and pulp can be used to manufacture nondeteriorating paper using a relatively pollution-free process. The plant can also be used for biomass applications. Its seeds yield oil similar to linseed, which can be used in many commercial and industrial applications. In Eastern Europe and Central Asia, the seeds have been used for human consumption.
"Hemp. It's marijuana's nonspyschoactive sister," writes Ed Rosenthal. "You couldn't get a buzz if you smoked a bale of hemp, but it's still illegal to grow it in the United States." Industrial hemp is legally grown in over thirty countries. For thousands of years, people grew hemp and prospered. It flourishes without pesticides. Thomas Jefferson considered hemp so vital to America that he risked his life to smuggle hemp seeds out of France. George Washington grew hemp and instructed his caretaker at Mount Vernon: "Make the most of the hemp seed. Sow it everywhere."
Industrial hemp was first grown in Kentucky 250 years ago. It is currently grown in other countries across the globe, including France, England, Canada, Australia, China, Hungary and the Ukraine. Industrial hemp has virtually no THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. It cannot be used as a drug. None of the countries that allow industrial hemp production have experienced any drug problems relating to the crop. Using modern processing techniques, hemp can be used in place of petrochemicals. Instead of synthetic plastics made from oil, we can use natural fiber and processed bioplastic derivatives. Plastics and polyester rely on foreign oil, while cotton consumes enormous amounts of water, fertilizer, herbicides, and pesticides.
Industrial hemp is very clean, easy to grow and is one of the most environmentally sound sources of industrial fiber in the world. Environmentally friendly detergents, plastics, paints, varnishes, cosmetics, and textiles are already being made from it in Europe. Industrial hemp can meet our fiber needs while also revitalizing our struggling rural economies.
Hemp is already being used in place of trees for pressboard, particleboard, and core concrete construction molds. Paper made from hemp is acid-free, stronger and lasts far longer than paper made from trees. Hemp fabrics are far stronger and more resistant to mold than any other natural fiber. Builders in France and Germany use hemp for construction material, replacing drywall and plywood. Hemp can be used to manufacture plastic plumbing pipe, replacing such toxic materials as polyvinyl chloride (PVC). Hemp fiber is already being used in place of glass fiber in surfboards and snowboards. Hemp could also provide the resin itself.
For ideological reasons, the federal government refuses to allow farmers to grow hemp despite the fact that industrial hemp is currently grown legally worldwide. The George W. Bush administration took anti-hemp policy to a new extreme, attempting unsuccessfully to ban the import of hemp foods and cosmetics. Erwin "Bud" Sholts, director of the Wisconsin Agriculture Department's marketing division, said hemp "is the most value-added, prolific fiber crop man can grow." Sholts acknowledged that hemp is an emotional issue, but points out that "other nations with drug laws as tough or tougher than ours have overcome this hurdle." The U.S. is the only major industrialized nation that prohibits the growing of industrial hemp; anti-drug hysteria should not blind the public to the commercial and industrial applications of hemp.
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Posted by: InsertNameHere on Sep 23, 2009 5:04 AM
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You're probably better off dropping the pharma and sticking with the weed.
It seems that most people I know of started smoking tobacco before using pot, so perhaps tobacco should be vilified as the gateway drug. Again, drop the tobacco, stick with the weed.
If everyone were able to grow their own stash, you'd phase out countless expensive drug therapies, reduce crime and empty out prisons. It would probably save many lives or at least ease suffering. The capitalists don't like the idea of you having the power to ease your own pain without it being monetized.
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Sep 23, 2009 5:16 AM
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Most pot users will argue that the people who have developed mental illness, would have done so anyway, and this is hard to disprove.
Mental illness is pretty endemic in my family, with my father, brother and sister, all having spent considerable time in mental hospitals, though none of them have ever used pot.
I used pot for several years in the early 80's without any adverse effect, and then went totally paranoid for 3 days, followed by obvious psychosis. It's entirely possible this would have happenned anyway. However, I continued smoking pot for 6 months and used to go and see a psychiatrist every 2 weeks and have deep discussions with him, about how insane the world was, and how I was not going to take any of his anti-psychotic drugs, because I felt perfectly O.K.. I have never been admitted to a mental hospital.
My employer however wouldn't let me return to work, until the psychiatrist signed me off as being fit for work which involved taking the anti-psychotic drugs, and completely giving up pot. I then became extremely depressed for the only time in my life, which lasted about 6 months. It took about 3 years, before I no longer wanted to smoke a joint. But I kept my girlfriend - and job - which I had to fight back for from the bottom. I then got married and had kids.
I know lots of people in the music industry or met through my interest in it, who have gone through similar experiences. There is one guy who is a brilliant guitarist, who simply will not play anymore which I find very sad as such talent should not be wasted.
I'm not suggesting that people who smoke pot should be arrested, as this causes far more problems and can be totally personally destructive and solves nothing. However to claim that pot does not cause any problems in anyone is quite simply untrue.
Alcohol and tobacco are quite obviously far worse, in their effects on society, particularly with regards to violence that alcohol is directly responsible for in some people. Cocaine too is a major problem and now becoming endemic. Nursing people off cocaine can be exceedingly traumatic, because usually they have lost absolutely everything - job, money and all close personal relationships.
Tony
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Posted by: frantic1971 on Sep 23, 2009 6:20 AM
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Here we are in the middle of a health care reform debate that is the most important in 50 years, we have a powerful and virulent right-wing movement just itching to blow-away all Liberals---hemp advocates included. Our economy is the worst in 70 years. So we don't need 'ya spinning-off into what is, quite frankly--a minor issue such as this.
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Posted by: ismac76 on Sep 23, 2009 6:23 AM
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who wants more tea?
I blame capitalism as manifestatation of modern one size fits all ideology. Without having to jockey for exposure and underwriting by spinning and promoting different products to convey essential information, perhaps, we would have a better sense of what is really going on. It's like some crude deterministic politburo circus of the free market as far as the mainstream media in the US and so many other things are concerned.
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Posted by: J. Spencer on Sep 23, 2009 6:55 AM
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Methinks not. Methinks it is corporate greed to get ad revenue without bothering to check what kind of ads run next to any given article. Maybe Alternet should run an article on itself and it's own hypocritical advertising policies.
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Posted by: beeden on Sep 23, 2009 7:54 AM
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Perhaps studies of this aspect would be more interesting if they looked at the results from Amsterdam, where the "product" is legal, and such societal disapproval is at minimal levels.
I wonder if there was a schizophrenic reaction to buying/partaking alcohol illegally, during the Prohibition, simply as a reaction for otherwise normally responsible, social citizens being criminalised for their choice of leisure intoxication.
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Posted by: JenniferBedingfield on Sep 23, 2009 7:56 AM
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Sep 23, 2009 10:08 AM
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She was a Nurse in the UK's NHS - A Very Senior Nurse Actually. She had her Masters Degree and used to teach Nursing at Battle Hospital in Reading and various other places throughout the UK.
She had the same inherited Muscular disease as I have, and decided to take the drug Procainamide when I was about 19 - and she was about 32.
I researched this drug in great detail, and eventuallty decided not to take it - because of its long term side effects. I told her why - though it almost totally relieved the symptoms of the muscular condition and allowed her to do her job free of muscular stiffness - I said I want to live.
And so I decided not to take any drug whatsoever for my muscular condition and just put up with all the embarrassment and risk.
When she was dying - which took a few years - I suggested to her husband - I wouldn't dare say it to her - because her view of cannabis and all none pharmaceutical drugs - and many pharmaceutical drugs - was incredibly negative - to ask her daughter for some cannabis. Whilst I had given it up - I knew her daughter was taking it without any ill effects - though she does not have the muscular condition...
The cannabis had an exceedingly benefical effect on the last few years of her life.
It also reduces the symptoms of myatonia congenita by well over 50%.
The fact that it is illegal is completely outrageous.
I have already documented its downside above, and I want my Doctor to prescribe it for me legally because I do not want to break any laws even if they are completely ridiculous.
However it seems I am just supposed to suffer and not walk normally as I approach old age.
Because of laws made by stupid people who do not know what it is like to have a muscular condition, and see the dramatic effects of cannabis relieving the symptoms without pharmaceutical drugs that killed my sister.
I posted much of the above on a US site that deal specifically with this problem and got banned as a result.
Such prejudice I find appalling.
Tony
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Posted by: DaBear on Sep 23, 2009 10:16 AM
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So I took it up with the District. A year later I got to have my say, FWIW with the school Board. I'm quoting a school board President, "Our children do not need the truth, they do not need facts. They need our protection. [his emphasis] If you bring those books on campus again, we'll get a restraining order against you."
God bless 'Merkuh.
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Posted by: masthead on Sep 23, 2009 10:20 AM
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maybe this is the impression corp media wants the public to have
marijuana smoke contains 50–70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke.
marijuana smoke contains 50 percent to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke and has the potential to cause cancer of the lungs and respiratory tract. Marijuana smis quooke is commonly inhaled deeper and held longer than is tobacco smoke, increasing the lungs' exposure to carcinogens." Source:Mayo Clinic
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Sep 23, 2009 12:22 PM
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And Yes I did Dance on The Nudist Beach - but at the time I was not naked - because it was raining and cold....
We did get picked up from the airport - but they weren't expecting us - but another couple. This was despite the fact that we had been there the previous year - and I had phoned her - and we had both confirmed it by email...
But somehow - she still managed to fit us in - Greek Women are just so completely Lovely
And so we were only supposed to be on this Greek Nudist Beach for 3 nights ( I am not saying where it is because the area tends to be drowned with Americans on Cruise shops who won't take their knickers and pants off on the Beach - just go to look at people like my Wife and I who do)
And then we had various other connections or not as the case may be and ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time or not
But we did swim naked on several beaches in The Greek Islands - and left all our stuff on the beach completely unprotected - and nothing got stolen...
It would have been very interesting if they had..
Just my Wife and I - arriving back on the beach from swimming in the sea together- completely naked - with no clothes, no money and no identity
But we have enormous respect for Greek People...
We have been doing this regularly for the last 25+ years and have never had anything stolen in Greece - except for our very first time, when my wife thought the English maid had stolen her sexy nightie
And then on the way home - I had had this crazy idea - and we came back to Piraeus on The Ferry with loads of Immigrants from Afghanistan where we keep dropping bombs and didn't have a clue how to get to the airport...
So we went on the train/underground/metro - which was state of the art and really beautiful - in the Athens Rush Hour...
And as we were getting off the underground train with rucksacks on our backs - and suitcases...
I got robbed of all our money
I knew almost instantly - but didn't know who did it. I told my Wife and She Was Completely Furious...
So we both went storming back on the Train about The Robbery and Were Supported By 5 Greek Women...
We all Created an Enormous Great Fuss - But I could not identify The Thief To The Police
No Drugs Were Involved
I am slowly getting over it - but felt like I had been raped. I now realise that if anyone tries to mug me with a knife - what might happen. I would probably end up in a pool of blood - dead.
Things could be much worse and probably will be..
But My Invitation was Genuine - and you could have Flown directly if you'd trusted me.
There is no way I would deceive you or rob you.
We met lots of Canadians and Australians but only one American - who we asked the way to the Train.
Tony
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Posted by: xmvince on Sep 23, 2009 12:26 PM
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Here's why it is a gateway drug:
Government: Marijuana is very bad, it will ruin your life and make you go crazy
Kid who tries marijuana: wow this isn't anywhere NEAR as bad as what DARE and ads on TV told me.. What else is the government lying about? Maybe I should try some other stuff to see if that is good as well?
SOLUTION:
Legalize it! If marijuana is truthfully advertised as a safe drug, people who try it will know it's safe, and not feel the temptation to try other non-safe drugs AS LONG AS WE ARE TRUTHFUL about it. Government lies will only make people deviate away from its intent. STOP LYING, TELL THE TRUTH, AND PEOPLE WILL FOLLOW THE RULES!!
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Sep 23, 2009 1:01 PM
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A Pint of Guinness
If Americans don't get this then I wouldn't be surprised unless they are Irish
Tony
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Posted by: InsertNameHere on Sep 23, 2009 1:22 PM
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You can ingest it too!
Poof! The sound of your argument going up in smoke.
Try ingesting tobacco and see where that gets you.
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Posted by: Don Quixot on Sep 23, 2009 1:56 PM
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We live in a surreal world thanks to TV stations and the men who own them, our seemingly omnipotent psychotic rulers, (but only until their last breath), the men behind the curtain, if you have seen Zeitgeistmovie.com. The men who choose presidents (and kill them). Just due to a few mentally sick superbankers and the many who sell them their soul. But nothing is forever.
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In addition to the 70-year prohibition on plant cultivation, possession or use – relaxed only during WWII when oil shortages forced the US government to resort again to hemp fibre and hemp ethanol - the corporations have forced a stranglehold on most other consumables as well. If you don’t believe me, try growing your own tobacco or distilling your own ethanol!
… or prescribing your own happy pill:
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Top spenders include the AMA, the American Hospital Association, Pharmaceutical Researchers & Manufacturers of America, Blue Cross/Blue Shield, Altria Group (Phillip Morris), Anheuser-Busch, GlaxoSmithKline, Exxon-Mobil (the richest company on the planet) and BP. These are all companies that will lose money if marijuana is formally recognized for the harmless but useful herb that it really is. In other words, we're effed.
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I knew the job I was foing was really important, because about 300 people had lost their jobs and I was one of only 24 who had passed the interview to do more than 10 peoples jobs
So I personally worked my balls off for a few years to make the fucking thing work
As did all my colleagues
Failure was not an option because it would adversely affect around 12 Million People
Now you might think 24 people couldn't get something working that would do something so phenomenal - but we did...
Sure we recuited some highly motivated people also determined to male it work
When we had achieved the impossible - we were independently benchmarked by One Of The World Authorities - with Regards To Data Centres and The Services We Provided and We Got Number 1 in The World...
My Boss said - No We Can't Get Munber 1 - that will be far too embarrassing - downgrade us to around Number 7 - and give the top 6 places to Americans - they Are So Stupid They Won't Know
So We Got Number 7 instead
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Posted by: stellabloo on Sep 23, 2009 3:48 PM
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Prison labor is Big Business
And you thought slavery was so far away and so yesterday?
Exactly why we’re not going to see Pot Prohibition ending soon, just like the US isn’t leaving the Middle East anytime soon either – war and slave labor are the big builders of Empire, people. Don’t you know we have an economic crisis going on?
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Posted by: 24&somuchmore on Sep 23, 2009 4:00 PM
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It is certainly no worse for you than alcohol, tobacco, or TV (and if you think THAT Last one is not a drug, well then THINK again then turn it off for a couple of weeks).
It is also certainly LESS of an addictive drug, even psychologically, than most others.
I have never seen a person get violent after smoking a little weed. I cannot say the same for alcohol, religion, politics
Like most things, its about money and power. Big Pharma wants to keep a competitor off the market.
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I wish some of the positive scientific data would be digested and compiled in one easy to grasp, comprehensive study. We need more research !!
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Thank you Alternet; business as usual.
As soon as corporations tell the media articles will change.
and soon the public forgets.....
why not try to live a life in freedom and dignity?????
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Posted by: LightningJoe on Oct 5, 2009 10:38 PM
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Hemp could have been designed for deep compatibility with human use, which leads me to think that it must have been in common use before the capitalists distorted and prohibitted its uses. It makes wonderful oil, food (the ground seeds are very nutritious), fabrics, and building materials. It grows on the most marginal lands imaginable, with no or very little amelioration (fertilizers).
In short, what's not to like about pot and hemp? Well, if you are Dupont, plenty. Legalizing it would mean the end of many profitable (and highly polluting) paper plants -- or at least induce a massive cost-wise shift to hemp fiber, which would basically eliminate the need for Dupont's chemicals in the process.
And.... THAT'S reason enough, to legalize it!
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Posted by: MattDesrochers on Sep 23, 2009 12:58 AM
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Secondly, marijuana is not a gateway drug. In the Netherlands, where marijuana is legal, the average age of a heroin addict is in the mid 30's. In the United States, it's 19. That is because when you do not separate the hard and soft drug market, you can buy your cocaine, ecstasy, and opiates from (or through) the same person that sells you your pot. In the Netherlands, coffeeshops (marijuana dispensaries) strictly forbid even the use, much less the sale, of hard drugs for fear of losing their marijuana license.
Lastly, even the mere existence of public service announcements attempting to dissuade the population from using drugs are absolutely hypocritical. The main sponsors for the "Partnership for a Drug Free America" are the tobacco, alcohol, and pharmaceutical industries. The point is: you can do as many drugs as you want, as long as they are the ones we sell to you for an immense profit; it's the untaxed drugs you need to stay away from.
Prohibition worked in the 1930's. It led to organized crime, corruption, and violence. Prohibition is doing the same now. Marijuana is illegal because hemp stood to destroy the lumber and petrochemical industry. See: hemp decorticator, Dupont, Hearst, or just hemp itself. The truth is out there.
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Posted by: Carts on Sep 23, 2009 1:17 AM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_J._Anslinger
http://www.drugwarrant.com /articles/why-is-marijuana-illegal/
Hemp can save the world from filthy oil products
http://www.hemp.com/
Hemp can suck in greenhouse gas
http://www.globalwarmingisreal.com/blog/2008/05/26/ industrial-hemps-silver-bullet- potential-for-reducing-greenhouse-gas/
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Posted by: DignityForAll on Sep 23, 2009 2:16 AM
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Similarly, early studies of lungs of heavy cannabis smokers found so-called pre-cancerous lesions - really just mild irritiation.
Read about the first US official cannabis expert, "bat-man" (very embarrasing for US medical science).
It's excellent that this new cannabis research is being conducted and published. Note, many of these scientists have been struggling for a long time to do this sort of research, to get PhDs, to get funding, to get respect for cannabinoid science.
Cannabis bud, hash, and cannabis cookies are openly sold in friendly "coffee shops" in Amsterdam, no problems. The same could happen in any US city tomorrow. With 900,000 Americans arrested every year, cannabis prohibition is completely unethical.
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NO ONE HAS EVER DIED FROM AN OVERDOSE OF MARIJUANA.
I turned fifty-one last month. In my time on this earth I have known - at the very least - two-hundred people who have died as the result of the intake of alcohol and nicotine. Funny thing. I've never known anyone to shuffle off this mortal coil from too much grass.
Rabid Blue Dogs
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Neither do I.
It has become very apparent, over the last few years, that the only form of legalization that NORML really supports is a model whereby the government grows you weed and sells it to you at "street prices" of between $300 to $500 an ounce.
Why would we accept this compromise when we could grow it for free by ourselves. Why would we want the same government, that has been busting us for the last 72 years . . . to now become our Marijuana Drug Dealer?
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The Marijuana Re-Legalization Policy Project (MRPP) = "MERP"
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Posted by: vasumurti on Sep 23, 2009 5:02 AM
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Hemp has many economic uses. It contains the longest fiber in the plant kingdom and is one of the strongest and most durable. It can be used for commercial and industrial applications, including insulation, textiles, clothing, and rope. The fiber and pulp can be used to manufacture nondeteriorating paper using a relatively pollution-free process. The plant can also be used for biomass applications. Its seeds yield oil similar to linseed, which can be used in many commercial and industrial applications. In Eastern Europe and Central Asia, the seeds have been used for human consumption.
"Hemp. It's marijuana's nonspyschoactive sister," writes Ed Rosenthal. "You couldn't get a buzz if you smoked a bale of hemp, but it's still illegal to grow it in the United States." Industrial hemp is legally grown in over thirty countries. For thousands of years, people grew hemp and prospered. It flourishes without pesticides. Thomas Jefferson considered hemp so vital to America that he risked his life to smuggle hemp seeds out of France. George Washington grew hemp and instructed his caretaker at Mount Vernon: "Make the most of the hemp seed. Sow it everywhere."
Industrial hemp was first grown in Kentucky 250 years ago. It is currently grown in other countries across the globe, including France, England, Canada, Australia, China, Hungary and the Ukraine. Industrial hemp has virtually no THC, the psychoactive ingredient in marijuana. It cannot be used as a drug. None of the countries that allow industrial hemp production have experienced any drug problems relating to the crop. Using modern processing techniques, hemp can be used in place of petrochemicals. Instead of synthetic plastics made from oil, we can use natural fiber and processed bioplastic derivatives. Plastics and polyester rely on foreign oil, while cotton consumes enormous amounts of water, fertilizer, herbicides, and pesticides.
Industrial hemp is very clean, easy to grow and is one of the most environmentally sound sources of industrial fiber in the world. Environmentally friendly detergents, plastics, paints, varnishes, cosmetics, and textiles are already being made from it in Europe. Industrial hemp can meet our fiber needs while also revitalizing our struggling rural economies.
Hemp is already being used in place of trees for pressboard, particleboard, and core concrete construction molds. Paper made from hemp is acid-free, stronger and lasts far longer than paper made from trees. Hemp fabrics are far stronger and more resistant to mold than any other natural fiber. Builders in France and Germany use hemp for construction material, replacing drywall and plywood. Hemp can be used to manufacture plastic plumbing pipe, replacing such toxic materials as polyvinyl chloride (PVC). Hemp fiber is already being used in place of glass fiber in surfboards and snowboards. Hemp could also provide the resin itself.
For ideological reasons, the federal government refuses to allow farmers to grow hemp despite the fact that industrial hemp is currently grown legally worldwide. The George W. Bush administration took anti-hemp policy to a new extreme, attempting unsuccessfully to ban the import of hemp foods and cosmetics. Erwin "Bud" Sholts, director of the Wisconsin Agriculture Department's marketing division, said hemp "is the most value-added, prolific fiber crop man can grow." Sholts acknowledged that hemp is an emotional issue, but points out that "other nations with drug laws as tough or tougher than ours have overcome this hurdle." The U.S. is the only major industrialized nation that prohibits the growing of industrial hemp; anti-drug hysteria should not blind the public to the commercial and industrial applications of hemp.
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Posted by: InsertNameHere on Sep 23, 2009 5:04 AM
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You're probably better off dropping the pharma and sticking with the weed.
It seems that most people I know of started smoking tobacco before using pot, so perhaps tobacco should be vilified as the gateway drug. Again, drop the tobacco, stick with the weed.
If everyone were able to grow their own stash, you'd phase out countless expensive drug therapies, reduce crime and empty out prisons. It would probably save many lives or at least ease suffering. The capitalists don't like the idea of you having the power to ease your own pain without it being monetized.
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Sep 23, 2009 5:16 AM
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Most pot users will argue that the people who have developed mental illness, would have done so anyway, and this is hard to disprove.
Mental illness is pretty endemic in my family, with my father, brother and sister, all having spent considerable time in mental hospitals, though none of them have ever used pot.
I used pot for several years in the early 80's without any adverse effect, and then went totally paranoid for 3 days, followed by obvious psychosis. It's entirely possible this would have happenned anyway. However, I continued smoking pot for 6 months and used to go and see a psychiatrist every 2 weeks and have deep discussions with him, about how insane the world was, and how I was not going to take any of his anti-psychotic drugs, because I felt perfectly O.K.. I have never been admitted to a mental hospital.
My employer however wouldn't let me return to work, until the psychiatrist signed me off as being fit for work which involved taking the anti-psychotic drugs, and completely giving up pot. I then became extremely depressed for the only time in my life, which lasted about 6 months. It took about 3 years, before I no longer wanted to smoke a joint. But I kept my girlfriend - and job - which I had to fight back for from the bottom. I then got married and had kids.
I know lots of people in the music industry or met through my interest in it, who have gone through similar experiences. There is one guy who is a brilliant guitarist, who simply will not play anymore which I find very sad as such talent should not be wasted.
I'm not suggesting that people who smoke pot should be arrested, as this causes far more problems and can be totally personally destructive and solves nothing. However to claim that pot does not cause any problems in anyone is quite simply untrue.
Alcohol and tobacco are quite obviously far worse, in their effects on society, particularly with regards to violence that alcohol is directly responsible for in some people. Cocaine too is a major problem and now becoming endemic. Nursing people off cocaine can be exceedingly traumatic, because usually they have lost absolutely everything - job, money and all close personal relationships.
Tony
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Here we are in the middle of a health care reform debate that is the most important in 50 years, we have a powerful and virulent right-wing movement just itching to blow-away all Liberals---hemp advocates included. Our economy is the worst in 70 years. So we don't need 'ya spinning-off into what is, quite frankly--a minor issue such as this.
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I blame capitalism as manifestatation of modern one size fits all ideology. Without having to jockey for exposure and underwriting by spinning and promoting different products to convey essential information, perhaps, we would have a better sense of what is really going on. It's like some crude deterministic politburo circus of the free market as far as the mainstream media in the US and so many other things are concerned.
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Methinks not. Methinks it is corporate greed to get ad revenue without bothering to check what kind of ads run next to any given article. Maybe Alternet should run an article on itself and it's own hypocritical advertising policies.
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Perhaps studies of this aspect would be more interesting if they looked at the results from Amsterdam, where the "product" is legal, and such societal disapproval is at minimal levels.
I wonder if there was a schizophrenic reaction to buying/partaking alcohol illegally, during the Prohibition, simply as a reaction for otherwise normally responsible, social citizens being criminalised for their choice of leisure intoxication.
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She was a Nurse in the UK's NHS - A Very Senior Nurse Actually. She had her Masters Degree and used to teach Nursing at Battle Hospital in Reading and various other places throughout the UK.
She had the same inherited Muscular disease as I have, and decided to take the drug Procainamide when I was about 19 - and she was about 32.
I researched this drug in great detail, and eventuallty decided not to take it - because of its long term side effects. I told her why - though it almost totally relieved the symptoms of the muscular condition and allowed her to do her job free of muscular stiffness - I said I want to live.
And so I decided not to take any drug whatsoever for my muscular condition and just put up with all the embarrassment and risk.
When she was dying - which took a few years - I suggested to her husband - I wouldn't dare say it to her - because her view of cannabis and all none pharmaceutical drugs - and many pharmaceutical drugs - was incredibly negative - to ask her daughter for some cannabis. Whilst I had given it up - I knew her daughter was taking it without any ill effects - though she does not have the muscular condition...
The cannabis had an exceedingly benefical effect on the last few years of her life.
It also reduces the symptoms of myatonia congenita by well over 50%.
The fact that it is illegal is completely outrageous.
I have already documented its downside above, and I want my Doctor to prescribe it for me legally because I do not want to break any laws even if they are completely ridiculous.
However it seems I am just supposed to suffer and not walk normally as I approach old age.
Because of laws made by stupid people who do not know what it is like to have a muscular condition, and see the dramatic effects of cannabis relieving the symptoms without pharmaceutical drugs that killed my sister.
I posted much of the above on a US site that deal specifically with this problem and got banned as a result.
Such prejudice I find appalling.
Tony
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Posted by: DaBear on Sep 23, 2009 10:16 AM
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So I took it up with the District. A year later I got to have my say, FWIW with the school Board. I'm quoting a school board President, "Our children do not need the truth, they do not need facts. They need our protection. [his emphasis] If you bring those books on campus again, we'll get a restraining order against you."
God bless 'Merkuh.
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Posted by: masthead on Sep 23, 2009 10:20 AM
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maybe this is the impression corp media wants the public to have
marijuana smoke contains 50–70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke.
marijuana smoke contains 50 percent to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke and has the potential to cause cancer of the lungs and respiratory tract. Marijuana smis quooke is commonly inhaled deeper and held longer than is tobacco smoke, increasing the lungs' exposure to carcinogens." Source:Mayo Clinic
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» marijuana in smoke may well be a carcinogen
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Sep 23, 2009 12:22 PM
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And Yes I did Dance on The Nudist Beach - but at the time I was not naked - because it was raining and cold....
We did get picked up from the airport - but they weren't expecting us - but another couple. This was despite the fact that we had been there the previous year - and I had phoned her - and we had both confirmed it by email...
But somehow - she still managed to fit us in - Greek Women are just so completely Lovely
And so we were only supposed to be on this Greek Nudist Beach for 3 nights ( I am not saying where it is because the area tends to be drowned with Americans on Cruise shops who won't take their knickers and pants off on the Beach - just go to look at people like my Wife and I who do)
And then we had various other connections or not as the case may be and ended up in the wrong place at the wrong time or not
But we did swim naked on several beaches in The Greek Islands - and left all our stuff on the beach completely unprotected - and nothing got stolen...
It would have been very interesting if they had..
Just my Wife and I - arriving back on the beach from swimming in the sea together- completely naked - with no clothes, no money and no identity
But we have enormous respect for Greek People...
We have been doing this regularly for the last 25+ years and have never had anything stolen in Greece - except for our very first time, when my wife thought the English maid had stolen her sexy nightie
And then on the way home - I had had this crazy idea - and we came back to Piraeus on The Ferry with loads of Immigrants from Afghanistan where we keep dropping bombs and didn't have a clue how to get to the airport...
So we went on the train/underground/metro - which was state of the art and really beautiful - in the Athens Rush Hour...
And as we were getting off the underground train with rucksacks on our backs - and suitcases...
I got robbed of all our money
I knew almost instantly - but didn't know who did it. I told my Wife and She Was Completely Furious...
So we both went storming back on the Train about The Robbery and Were Supported By 5 Greek Women...
We all Created an Enormous Great Fuss - But I could not identify The Thief To The Police
No Drugs Were Involved
I am slowly getting over it - but felt like I had been raped. I now realise that if anyone tries to mug me with a knife - what might happen. I would probably end up in a pool of blood - dead.
Things could be much worse and probably will be..
But My Invitation was Genuine - and you could have Flown directly if you'd trusted me.
There is no way I would deceive you or rob you.
We met lots of Canadians and Australians but only one American - who we asked the way to the Train.
Tony
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Posted by: xmvince on Sep 23, 2009 12:26 PM
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Here's why it is a gateway drug:
Government: Marijuana is very bad, it will ruin your life and make you go crazy
Kid who tries marijuana: wow this isn't anywhere NEAR as bad as what DARE and ads on TV told me.. What else is the government lying about? Maybe I should try some other stuff to see if that is good as well?
SOLUTION:
Legalize it! If marijuana is truthfully advertised as a safe drug, people who try it will know it's safe, and not feel the temptation to try other non-safe drugs AS LONG AS WE ARE TRUTHFUL about it. Government lies will only make people deviate away from its intent. STOP LYING, TELL THE TRUTH, AND PEOPLE WILL FOLLOW THE RULES!!
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Posted by: tony_opmoc on Sep 23, 2009 1:01 PM
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A Pint of Guinness
If Americans don't get this then I wouldn't be surprised unless they are Irish
Tony
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You can ingest it too!
Poof! The sound of your argument going up in smoke.
Try ingesting tobacco and see where that gets you.
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Posted by: Don Quixot on Sep 23, 2009 1:56 PM
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We live in a surreal world thanks to TV stations and the men who own them, our seemingly omnipotent psychotic rulers, (but only until their last breath), the men behind the curtain, if you have seen Zeitgeistmovie.com. The men who choose presidents (and kill them). Just due to a few mentally sick superbankers and the many who sell them their soul. But nothing is forever.
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In addition to the 70-year prohibition on plant cultivation, possession or use – relaxed only during WWII when oil shortages forced the US government to resort again to hemp fibre and hemp ethanol - the corporations have forced a stranglehold on most other consumables as well. If you don’t believe me, try growing your own tobacco or distilling your own ethanol!
… or prescribing your own happy pill:
Top 20 Republican Party donors with UK or USA consumer brands
Lobbying: Top Spenders
Top spenders include the AMA, the American Hospital Association, Pharmaceutical Researchers & Manufacturers of America, Blue Cross/Blue Shield, Altria Group (Phillip Morris), Anheuser-Busch, GlaxoSmithKline, Exxon-Mobil (the richest company on the planet) and BP. These are all companies that will lose money if marijuana is formally recognized for the harmless but useful herb that it really is. In other words, we're effed.
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I knew the job I was foing was really important, because about 300 people had lost their jobs and I was one of only 24 who had passed the interview to do more than 10 peoples jobs
So I personally worked my balls off for a few years to make the fucking thing work
As did all my colleagues
Failure was not an option because it would adversely affect around 12 Million People
Now you might think 24 people couldn't get something working that would do something so phenomenal - but we did...
Sure we recuited some highly motivated people also determined to male it work
When we had achieved the impossible - we were independently benchmarked by One Of The World Authorities - with Regards To Data Centres and The Services We Provided and We Got Number 1 in The World...
My Boss said - No We Can't Get Munber 1 - that will be far too embarrassing - downgrade us to around Number 7 - and give the top 6 places to Americans - they Are So Stupid They Won't Know
So We Got Number 7 instead
Tony
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Prime-time Propaganda
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Prison labor is Big Business
And you thought slavery was so far away and so yesterday?
Exactly why we’re not going to see Pot Prohibition ending soon, just like the US isn’t leaving the Middle East anytime soon either – war and slave labor are the big builders of Empire, people. Don’t you know we have an economic crisis going on?
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Posted by: 24&somuchmore on Sep 23, 2009 4:00 PM
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It is certainly no worse for you than alcohol, tobacco, or TV (and if you think THAT Last one is not a drug, well then THINK again then turn it off for a couple of weeks).
It is also certainly LESS of an addictive drug, even psychologically, than most others.
I have never seen a person get violent after smoking a little weed. I cannot say the same for alcohol, religion, politics
Like most things, its about money and power. Big Pharma wants to keep a competitor off the market.
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I wish some of the positive scientific data would be digested and compiled in one easy to grasp, comprehensive study. We need more research !!
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Thank you Alternet; business as usual.
As soon as corporations tell the media articles will change.
and soon the public forgets.....
why not try to live a life in freedom and dignity?????
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Hemp could have been designed for deep compatibility with human use, which leads me to think that it must have been in common use before the capitalists distorted and prohibitted its uses. It makes wonderful oil, food (the ground seeds are very nutritious), fabrics, and building materials. It grows on the most marginal lands imaginable, with no or very little amelioration (fertilizers).
In short, what's not to like about pot and hemp? Well, if you are Dupont, plenty. Legalizing it would mean the end of many profitable (and highly polluting) paper plants -- or at least induce a massive cost-wise shift to hemp fiber, which would basically eliminate the need for Dupont's chemicals in the process.
And.... THAT'S reason enough, to legalize it!
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