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Our Last Chance to Preserve Life On Earth Is Slipping Away

Shallow news coverage causes most Americans to underestimate the urgency of the threat of global warming.
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This excerpt was reprinted from the book Last Chance: Preserving Life on Earth by Larry J. Schweiger with permission from Fulcrum Publishing.

In the Absence of Light

A few years ago, we invited a group of low-income children from urban Pittsburgh to visit a distant natural area in Fayette County, Pennsylvania, for an owl watch. As night fell, the children became startled as they got their first glimpse of the myriad bright stars set in a clear, black sky. These kids had never seen a night sky in the absence of ambient light. Urban haze and light pollution had completely blocked their view of the heavens and dimmed their sense of the magnitude of creation.

Shallow news coverage causes most Americans to underestimate the urgency of the threat of global warming. Television’s failure to adequately cover the climate threat, along with the deliberate opacity created by massive oil and coal advertising, masks the vivid realities of the situation, much like the haze and light pollution blocked out the reality of the night sky for those urban kids.

The television has been described as a weapon of mass distraction. On hearing about the methane leaking from the Siberian Sea, one Canadian blogger mockingly wrote, “Runaway climate change? Massive methane release off Siberia? Nah, let’s talk about Wall Street instead!” Meanwhile, on “the upper decks of our ‘Titanic,’ everyone is worried stiff about a crisis on Wall Street.”

Denial is a too-common human tendency, especially around global warming. On June 23, 2008, twenty years since he first warned Congress that human activity was causing the earth to warm, James Hansen warned that a “wide gap has developed between what is understood about global warming by the relevant scientific communities and what is known by policymakers and the public.”

I have often wondered why so many media outlets have developed an excessive and endless fascination with fallen stars, kidnappings, rapes, and other violent crimes to the exclusion of news that we can actually use. Perhaps it is because Americans en masse watch that mindless stuff over and over again, thus supporting it and demanding more of it. Besides, that type of “news” is simple and cheap to produce and does not take a rocket scientist to present. Tabloid journalism, replayed continuously for days, weeks, and months on end is apparently profitable. “Infotainment” is not journalism. Networks and cable channels focus on making news shows more entertaining to pump up ratings that link to greater advertising revenues. Former vice president Al Gore described this in his book The Assault on Reason as “a new pattern of serial obsessions that periodically take over the airwaves for weeks at a time.”

Apart from the direct influence of coal and oil advertisers, I fail to understand why the news media ducks or ignores these terribly important stories. In September 2006, Katey Walter, leading a US-Russian team of scientists, published an important paper in Nature warning that melting permafrost in Siberia, covering more than 10 million square kilometers of Russia, is releasing five times the amount of methane previously estimated by scientists. Walter compared the melting Siberian permafrost and the massive amounts of frozen methane that could be discharged as “a (ticking) time bomb waiting to go off,” threaten the world’s climate.

You would think Walter’s shocking findings would be newsworthy. Well, you would be wrong. While Radio Free Europe, the BBC, and NPR found it newsworthy, the mainstream US media was completely distracted by mindless pursuits. At this same time, network and cable channels were in a frenzy, with satellite trucks gathered in front of the Boulder, Colorado, district attorney’s office to report titillating details of JonBenét Ramsey’s warped admirer and supposed killer, John Mark Karr.

Another instance in a long line of US media failures occurred on December 12, 2007, when Wieslaw Maslowski, a research professor at the Naval Postgraduate School, told a large gathering at the American Geophysical Union meeting that the Arctic will be ice-free sometime during the summer of 2013. Disappearing Arctic ice threatens to amplify global warming, yet Maslowski’s troubling findings were not covered by any of the networks, not even CNN. Instead, US viewers were preoccupied with the strange behavior of Drew Peterson in the disappearance of his fourth wife, Stacy.


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There is a cheap and simple way to immediately cool the Earth
Posted by: dobermanmacleod on Aug 17, 2009 12:39 AM   
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The thesis of the article (that either mankind quickly go on a severe carbon diet, or global warming will dramatically change the climate) is false, because there is a cheap and simple way to immediately cool the Earth: just add a little (more) sun dimming aerosol to the air.

Mankind probably(inadvertently) changed the climate thousands of years ago with slash and burn agriculture, maintaining the historically unusually hospitable climate period called the "Holocene." Furthermore, mankind's short-lived sun dimming pollution is probably cooling us down right now about 1C (a phenomena Dr James Lovelock has named a "fool's climate").

While a agree with the author that we are headed toward a climate catastrophe, and also that the media has done us a disservice by not informing us properly about the current trajectory, it is myopic to think mankind is just going to sit around and let our Earth go into a hot state like 55 millions years (the PETM) when most life died.

"The alternative (to geoengineering) is the acceptance of a massive natural cull of humanity and a return to an Earth that freely regulates itself but in the hot state." --Dr James Lovelock, August 2008

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» Well said, masthead. n/m Posted by: Paul_C

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common sense from the common man
Posted by: johnwinthrop on Aug 17, 2009 1:52 AM   
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no hard evidence that temperatures are soaring to dangerous levels. indeed, temperatures have cooled over past ten years. computer models are poor predictors-garbage in-garbage out. the gores-kerrys and obamas have political stakes and contributions reliant of scary predictions. the common man knows better. look at cycles thru history-we may be done with latest pre-auto warming cycle. time to break out the insulated parka.

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A Detailed Analysis of The Real Truth About Global Warming Can Be Found For $24.90
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Aug 17, 2009 3:58 AM   
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"Air Con: The Seriously Inconvenient Truth About Global Warming" by Ian Wishart....

But you will not want to read it, because you do not have an open mind. You have already been converted to The Gospel of Saint Al Gore who with his rich friends in Wall Street are going to screw you blind - fixing nothing but ensuring your poverty.

From Amazon

"Air Con demonstrates, with hundreds of scientific references, that global warming was not, is not, and will not be a global crisis; that, even if per impossibile it might be, it is far more cost-effective to adapt as and if needed than to attempt to mitigate 'global warming' by cutting emissions of carbon dioxide; and that all attempts at mitigation would serve only to imprison the very poorest in their poverty, thereby perversely increasing world population and consequently the 'carbon footprint' of humankind, achieving an outcome precisely the opposite of that which was (however piously) intended.

The UN, Mikhail Gorbachev, Jacques Chirac, and other world-government wannabes are plotting to establish nothing less than a global, bureaucratic-centralist dictatorship under the pretext that it is necessary to 'Save The Planet'.

Ian Wishart's book demonstrates that there is not the slightest scientific reason for the new, quasi-religious belief that The Planet needs Saving. The new religion is merely an excuse for world government. World government will not, repeat not, be democratic government.

The 'global warming' debate is not really a debate about climatology - it is a debate about freedom. It is the aim of the growing world-government faction among the international classe politique to take away our hard-won freedom and democracy forever.

I commend this timely book, which makes the scientific arguments comprehensible to the layman. Those who read it will help to forestall the new Fascists and so to keep us free. --Lord Christopher Monckton, Viscount of Brenchley, former scientific advisor to Margaret Thatcher "

Video AIR CON: The Seriously Inconvenient Truth About Global Warming by Ian Wishart



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Shallow NEWS coverage? Shallow environmental organization coverage.
Posted by: Beck on Aug 17, 2009 5:39 AM   
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Yeah, the news is only slowly picking up on this, but they've made more progress in the last few years than most environmental groups. They've progressed from ignoring the situation to at least covering it, and there have been some primetime specials, etc. The environmental groups like Sierra Club, though, are stalled. They reinforce the pervading notion that the denialists' whole premise is built upon: our lifestyles are too precious to even examine, let alone alter. Look at any copy of Sierra magazine and see the many trips listed in the end. Every one is flown to, mainlining emissions right where they do the most harm. They deflect the problem by claiming the trips are low-impact, that it's important to experience other cultures (important for whom?) and that you can always buy carbon offsets (maybe I should sell smoking offsets to those hooked on cigarettes; I don't smoke, so smokers can pay me to not smoke for them).

Anyhow, the worst thing about these trips is that they reinforce the thinking that got us here: our fulfillment is not only the most important thing, compared to anything else, it's the only important thing. Try to talk about flying in groups of environmentalists and watch the conversation flounder. It doesn't with any other topic. But how can a person acknowledge something is truly harmful when they're simultaneously certain that they'd be a fool to give it up?

I read somewhere that two long flights is like driving a Hummer for a year.

Most of the needed changes that have happened started with a combination of personal change and pressure to change laws. We could all boycott air travel for a couple of years and force change.

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» Who are you talking about? Posted by: leafsong1

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My..My...My
Posted by: Farmertim on Aug 17, 2009 5:50 AM   
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the coal gas and electric industry has a few plants commenting this site now don't they...

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EZPZ. The answer is evolution.
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Aug 17, 2009 6:23 AM   
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Our instincts tell us to gobble. Those with less to gobble look to those with more as an example of what they ought to have; those with more look for ways to stay ahead of those with less.

Compassion and empathy are relatively new things. Employing logic and an appreciation for the abstract--i.e., what could, might, may happen in hundreds of years given X behavior by Y numbers of people in Z locations--is a brand-spanking new behavior, in geological time.

We're resourceful enough to perpetuate the species, I even suspect if that means building massive CO2 scrubbers, knookyoulehr reactors, and living under a mountain for hundred (possibly a few thousand?) years. Maybe that will be long enough to give the* species a fresh start.

No, while I retain some hope that the greatest alarmist are practicing more alchemy than science, that we have much more time than they scream at us, and that there are homeostatic systems in place that are unaccounted for, I suspect that every bit of cheaply available coal and oil will be spent. Initiatives to switch to more expensive options in "eco-morality" states will only indirectly subsidize they're being burnt in less "eco-moral" states.

Humans adapt well to scorching heat and terrible cold. We, and the things we depend on, don't often fare so well as pH swings to and fro.

*yeah, I know

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» RE: ZPZ. The answer is evolution. Posted by: cdlepthien
» Quite missing the point. Posted by: ABetterFuture
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Catastrophic scenario? Don't make me laugh.
Posted by: AJR Journal on Aug 17, 2009 6:35 AM   
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This author/whore is just trying to sell books. If he can do it by hyping the apocalyptic scenario, he will do it.
These "The End is Near!" articles on AlterNet are always good for a morning chuckle.
The "Hydrogen-Sulfide" extinction article is still the best of the bunch.

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we have shallow news coverage everywhere
Posted by: sharonsylvie on Aug 17, 2009 7:37 AM   
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One reason why people are so ignorant is the lack of factual news. We have shallow coverage on everything so we know nothing. Several years ago the Pentagon commissioned a study of global warming and concluded it presented more dangers than terrorism. I don't think it was mentioned at all in the U.S. and I had to read about it in a British newspaper (which has the link to the actual report). Anybody who posts comments trying to disprove global warming is probably an industry shill.

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BA
Posted by: mnstra on Aug 17, 2009 7:48 AM   
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very important article.But dont blame the media/The so called man on the street could not care less about the mega problem of global warming. If they did pay some attention, they could not do anything about it at their level. All people want to do is ,shop, sex , gossip, and zone out to their favorite TV program. You can forget the media being a leader. In a sense your writer is very naive.We do need more elder wisdom on these blogs.

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The Size of Greed
Posted by: BeyondBeliefs on Aug 17, 2009 8:26 AM   
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The earth is SMALL compared to the size of our GREED.

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An interesting show
Posted by: talkville on Aug 17, 2009 8:52 AM   
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I watched a presentation last night by James Ellis, apparently advancing a theory called "The Gaia Theory" and offering a way of understanding our planet as a unified, living organism with an immense quantity of metabolic processes constantly operating. This "organic view" and approach to environmental and other social matters seems to me to offer much in the way of a positive advance over current understandings and approaches. Of course, I'm not qualified to offer any positive evidences as to its accuracy or truth content.

But it seems to me that approaches like these and those developing in the ecology, geo-science and bio-science areas hold much in the way of promise. At the very least, they deserve serious and more widespread attention in our popular discussions.

I don't know about "last chances" like this article seems to emphasize, but I sure do agree that we are way, way behind in confronting a host of issues that have been suppressed and even denied as our current habits of living have been developing.

There are glimmers of light at least, if obscurantism, disorientation and all kinds of attempts to keep us in narrow and blind ways of living don't succeed in their intense efforts these days.

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The points about media are astute, but what is ignored...
Posted by: leafsong1 on Aug 17, 2009 9:05 AM   
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...is the adverse effect of alarmists talking about how all life on Earth is threatened. Even to say that global warming threatens the survival of the human race is probably an exaggeration and is certain to be viewed as such. Global warming will cause vast human suffering; that is reason enough to avoid it. Since the science is clear, piling fake controversy on fake controversy does nothing to mitigate the fake controversy.

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Our Last Chance to Preserve Life On Earth Is Slipping Away
Posted by: pfm on Aug 17, 2009 9:32 AM   
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I rise to note it increasingly appears use of hyperbole is one of our preferred methods of attempting to be heard. I am in inclined to confess, too, fall into that trap. That being said, it strikes me the headline for this article … OUR LAST CHANCE TO PERSERVE LIFE ON EARTH IS SLIPPING AWAY … appears designed to send a most chilling yet equal information hyperbole to that which this article chooses to chastise.

Might it be that “we” – that’s you and me – have seen so many articles, TV headlines, news flashes, blogs, books, movies claiming … LAST CHANCE … so as to make us immune…? We are literally inundated almost daily with yet another LAST CHANCE to the point where we merely tune out these words and all the information associated with it.

We do not need data or information to engulf us, we need data and information provided to us in a clear, concise, understand, full, open, honest, timely DISCLOSURE allowing us to sift and separate what for us is the wheat from the chaff giving us the means to arrive at our initial conclusion always subject to modification pending additional relevant input.

Respectfully submitted,

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The North American Continent
Posted by: BeyondBeliefs on Aug 17, 2009 9:37 AM   
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The North American Continent was once covered in forests full of Life. More species of life are currently extinct, than species that now exists here. The destruction of creation is not theoretical.

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Bye Bye, Assholes
Posted by: QQOblivion on Aug 17, 2009 10:18 AM   
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I'm looking forward to total destruction. Then the end will come for these pathetic and evil sadists of a race, human beings. GOOD RIDDANCE!

My only regret is that the end will also come for many innocent species as well.

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Life on Earth will continue . . .
Posted by: dudelette on Aug 17, 2009 10:26 AM   
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it just won't be human. Some humans will survive, but the world we know is in its death throes.

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As time goes by
Posted by: badkitty on Aug 17, 2009 10:30 AM   
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As time goes by, I get less and less hopeful. Most people, judging by their representatives in Congress, have no understanding of what climate change will do to their lives and the lives of their children. I make the changes I can in my life--I got rid of my car last year, buy organic, from farmers markets if possible, and try to source food from within 100 miles of my home. We just made the last payment on my husband's car, and I don't intend for us to buy a car again, if I can help it. Yesterday I had lunch with my best friend from junior high, and she says they'll never buy another car (they have a 99 something, and a 97 Volvo Sedan). She and her husband shop like we do. Her next door neighbors sold their home in the urban-wildlands interface and intentionally bought their new house within two blocks of a shopping area, so they could walk to the grocery store. We're a minority, we don't have much hope, but we do what we can to delay the day of reckoning. Of course, we don't watch much TV either, we read...

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Handful of scientists making a little money from scary books is why global warming exists
Posted by: MT512 on Aug 17, 2009 10:52 AM   
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There are a few scientists who have spent their entire professional lives researching this stuff and becoming experts. Of course, they know there is no global warming or any ill effects of mankind's use of resources. But here is the conspiracy. These handfuls of scientists write scary books they know they can sell to gullible "liberals" and "environmentalists" and other people who are so stupid they actually care about more than money (what a bunch of idiots!). So these authors are making perhaps tens of thousands of dollars off these suckers who buy their books! They are laughing at their readers, and rubbing their hands together and saying "muwah-haa-haa!" That's evil!

Similarly, Al Gore continues to push his global warming stuff to... uh, sell his movie so he can make millions! Everybody knows the big bucks are in selling hard-to-swallow truths that suggest a need for lifestyle change!

See, "global warming" was invented solely to make a profit for a few "scientists" who have "studied" "facts" and "concluded" things based on "evidence." Bah!

On the other hand you have the just, noble old-energy companies and their industries' lobbying representatives who are innocent and pure and they are spending millions and millions of dollars just trying to defend themselves against the evil scientists whose lies are spread insidiously through subversive publications like "scientific journals".

Is is not obvious that when you have an issue with one side populated by experts potentially breaking even with book sales exposing the truths people don't want to hear, and the other side made up of huge multinational corporations that have billions and billions of dollars to lose if that information becomes accepted as truth... that the evildoers in such a situation are clearly the greedy, book-selling scientists?

After all, that's why most people become scientists--to make it rich off of esoteric technical publications read by tiny groups of similarly-specialized experts.

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Our "people bubble" gets even less coverage.
Posted by: Sojourner on Aug 17, 2009 11:07 AM   
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Msm are in business to make money, so they will do what those who pay money are interested in. If you want coverage of real issues, watch public television. (Maybe also listen to NPR. although the last I heard they had been sold off by Bush's appointees.)

We have a people bubble, just as we had a credit bubble and still have the residue of a housing bubble. Bubbles lead to collapse, eventually. It's not a question of what, just when. It's easier to blame the msm than those who profit from the population explosion.

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The global warming myth makes billions for its creators
Posted by: Caleb Darkstar on Aug 17, 2009 1:06 PM   
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Al Gore and his minions have told this lie so many times it has become and inconvienient fallacy.

These same people get rich from the effort, the movies , the books, the taxes , the politics.

When Al gives up his palacial estate and stops jetting around the world making money off this hype I will look into it.

But why would he, all he has to do is buy some carbon credits and all is forgiven. Under this program I suppose he could own some slaves too. If he had a WAMCO SLAVE CREDIT program.

Absolute rubbish.

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Let's be realistic
Posted by: willymack on Aug 17, 2009 3:04 PM   
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Would the departure of the human species be a bad thing for our world?
The answer is HELL NO!
We're easily the WORST thing that ever happened to Planet Earth.

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Sweiger's non-solutions
Posted by: hughjones on Aug 17, 2009 3:16 PM   
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We are depending on fossil fuel for our prosperity and now our very existance. A hike in prices leads to starvation of the poorest (already in India, Egypt etc)
Sweiger is going to save us with solar and wind. With subsidies, non-commercial contracts etc it is hard to estimate the potential of energy sources. One very basic means is to measure the energy in vs. the return on a project. We have already discovered that more energy goes into a corn to ethanol project than comes out. Similarly oil shale projects are only now getting positive energy out after a hundred years of research. Initially conventional oil yielded almost 20 times the energy that went into producing all the equipment and transporting equipment and product. Oil sands are in the range of 3 out for 1 in. Do solar and wind ever give back the power that goes into the building and operation? No one in those industries will discuss this simple relation.
Secondly there is positive feedback. That is rising temperature causes more H2O, CO2, methane etc. and rising H2O, CO2, methane etc. causes rising temperature. H2O is massively the most important and is purely driven by temperature. Methane is many times more potent as a greenhouse gas than CO2 and it is being released from the tundra, from warming seas, rice farming and cattle farts. Ending anthropomorhic carbon emmissions won't stop any of this. We might delay the submergence of the Island Kingdom of Vanuatu by a day or two.
Seas will rise pushing populations into smaller areas, crops will fail.
But do not even mention that there may be too many humans. No! - fight against contraception and abortion, demand more babies in the West to fight our aging population, make it obvious how important children are by publicizing in-vitro fertilization and foreign adoption.
This way lies madness, chaos and starvation.
Hugh Jones Toronto Canada

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jump into the deep end
Posted by: sirios on Aug 17, 2009 9:43 PM   
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"Shallow news coverage causes most americans to underestimate the urgency of the threat of global warming" , but does not eliminate the shallowness of the viewer.

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Global cooling
Posted by: james_allen on Aug 18, 2009 3:37 AM   
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Although wrong in other ways, dobermanmacleod was correct to mention that we have the technology to cool the planet. (Specially engineered aerosols carried routinely by aircraft might be the simplest way, though simply using bombs to set off a volcano might be simpler. That this hasn't yet became a major part of the discussion is something of a mystery.)

A problem is that this does not solve all problems. CO2 is increasing ocean acidity and thus degrading its ecology, but cooling wouldn't remove CO2 from the air or ocean. There are other reasons why man-made "cooling" would be, at best, a short-term stopgap.

Reading some of the anti-science comments reinforces what to me is a major difference between America's "left" and "right". The former believes in science and reason; the latter seeks out lies that fit their emotions.

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EddDoerr
Posted by: EddDoerr on Aug 18, 2009 12:49 PM   
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Clearly our planet is in serious trouble from global warming, resource depletion, environmental degradation, pollution. But all our efforts to deal with these will come to naught if we do not deal with the problem of ever expanding population. This problem was spelled out in the Ford administration's 1975 (yes, 1975!) National Security Study Memorandum 200 report. Unfortunately, the report was mysteriously stamped "classified" and deep-sixed until almost the eve of the Rwanda massacre (which was caused in part by overpopulation in Africa's most densely populated country) and the 1994 UN Population Conference in Cairo. Various religious fundamentalisms have blocked serious efforts to defuse the population bomb, but we must defuse it as an essential part of our efforts to save the planet. Religious and cultural barriers to universal access to family planning imformation and aid, voluntary nonsurgical sterilization,and legal abortion must be swept out of the way. --- Edd Doerr, President, Americans for Religious Liberty, www.arlinc.org

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removing carbon
Posted by: hughjones on Aug 18, 2009 2:33 PM   
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Read about the option of stimulating the southern oceans to grow phytoplankton to capture the carbon. There are risks but it is one project that can be tried in a limited expirement. It might also increase the fish population.
Hugh Jones

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You can feel the warmth
Posted by: John_Birch on Aug 18, 2009 10:08 PM   
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Environmentalist: Uh-oh. It’s getting warm out here! Help, help! Our last chance is slipping away! Quick, give me your wallet!

Average Joe: Um, actually, the thermometer’s barely moved.

Environmentalist: Fool! Only scientists can read a thermometer! If you weren’t an idiot you’d know that!

Average Joe: In fact, it’s going down a little.

Environmentalist: That’s just more evidence its going up, you homophobic right wing extremist!

Average Joe: Maybe I should buy a meal for those poor folks next door instead.

Environmentalist: Whore! Troll! Oil company stooge! Thou deservest to be silenced!

Average Joe: Hey kids! How about some McDonalds?

Kids: Not if HE comes along...

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Does a fool make a straw man argument and expect it to fly?
Posted by: Changling on Aug 19, 2009 9:29 AM   
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Besides the Biblical admonition not to call others "fools" it is the measure of the thermometer over the year not just single days. It is the pattern over a period of time is how you get climate. Weather is a small component of climate. Really simple concepts that John_Birch and the like seems to be unaware. Maybe you should study science and not ideology. That would be an effective start to actually seeing the problem then tackling it before it tackles us!

That cooling of which you speak is relative to the hottest year on record which was 1997--all the other years are still the hottest recorded. But truly 2008 was cooler next to 1997 but not overall. Do you see the difference?

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Fairness Doctrine is a red herring
Posted by: DaBear on Aug 19, 2009 9:47 PM   
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Or a pollock, I can't tell which.

Anyway, the FD horseshit ain't all it's cracked up to be in hindsight. Nostalgia is a pathetic substitute for truth. FD is what gave rise to rampant false binarism in Amerikaaner "journalism" and actually contributed to its ultimate demise under media consolidation and corporatism.

Don't put on the rose colored glasses, they won't make the shit stink any less.

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Posted by: CAPSLOCK_AVENGER on Aug 20, 2009 5:33 AM   
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U BIN REPORTED

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as a woman, this horrifies me!!!!
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Jack McClellan, who calls himself a pedophile virtual private servers, has had Web sites in Seattle and Los Angeles detailing how and where he trolls for children.

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But his mere presence in Los Angeles — coupled with Mr. McClellan’s commitment to exhibitionistic blogging about his thoughts on little girls — has set parents on edge. One group of mothers, whose members by and large have never met before, will soon band together in a coffee shop to hammer out plans to push lawmakers in Sacramento to legislate Mr. McClellan out of business.

“Just the idea that this person could get away with what he was doing and no one could press charges has made me angry,” said Jane Thompson, a stay-at-home mother in East Los Angeles who recently read Mr. McClellan’s comments about a festival in her neighborhood in which he seemed to be describing her child.

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Dear Tony
Posted by: shellius on Sep 2, 2009 2:44 AM   
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Who is paying you to spread this misinformation? Someone is.

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Excellent read on the impact of politics on our science
Posted by: ForwardProgress on Sep 3, 2009 4:07 AM   
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When a friend asked me: "Yes but what can I do? It's *global* warming, after all," I recommended she read "Last Chance, Preserving Life on Earth." Yes, the title is daunting, but this book is so readable.

The author, Larry J. Schweiger, weaves his journey through life through the three major parts of his book, and makes the case based on his own ethics. “Global warming will harm children on the right as well as those on the left,” he writes. And then he tells readers what to do about it.

“Last Chance” is an excellent contemporary read on the impact of politics on our science, all in a human-sized proportion. It’s about what’s going at levels greater than the reader, but, even more important, the author gives give readers a role to play. We know there are problems, but don’t quite know how to respond. This book is a great guide to our personal response. It includes sections called, “What You Can Do,” loaded with practical, do-able actions that anyone – a child, parent or grand-parent -- can take.

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There is a cheap and simple way to immediately cool the Earth
Posted by: dobermanmacleod on Aug 17, 2009 12:39 AM   
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The thesis of the article (that either mankind quickly go on a severe carbon diet, or global warming will dramatically change the climate) is false, because there is a cheap and simple way to immediately cool the Earth: just add a little (more) sun dimming aerosol to the air.

Mankind probably(inadvertently) changed the climate thousands of years ago with slash and burn agriculture, maintaining the historically unusually hospitable climate period called the "Holocene." Furthermore, mankind's short-lived sun dimming pollution is probably cooling us down right now about 1C (a phenomena Dr James Lovelock has named a "fool's climate").

While a agree with the author that we are headed toward a climate catastrophe, and also that the media has done us a disservice by not informing us properly about the current trajectory, it is myopic to think mankind is just going to sit around and let our Earth go into a hot state like 55 millions years (the PETM) when most life died.

"The alternative (to geoengineering) is the acceptance of a massive natural cull of humanity and a return to an Earth that freely regulates itself but in the hot state." --Dr James Lovelock, August 2008

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common sense from the common man
Posted by: johnwinthrop on Aug 17, 2009 1:52 AM   
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no hard evidence that temperatures are soaring to dangerous levels. indeed, temperatures have cooled over past ten years. computer models are poor predictors-garbage in-garbage out. the gores-kerrys and obamas have political stakes and contributions reliant of scary predictions. the common man knows better. look at cycles thru history-we may be done with latest pre-auto warming cycle. time to break out the insulated parka.

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A Detailed Analysis of The Real Truth About Global Warming Can Be Found For $24.90
Posted by: tony_opmoc on Aug 17, 2009 3:58 AM   
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"Air Con: The Seriously Inconvenient Truth About Global Warming" by Ian Wishart....

But you will not want to read it, because you do not have an open mind. You have already been converted to The Gospel of Saint Al Gore who with his rich friends in Wall Street are going to screw you blind - fixing nothing but ensuring your poverty.

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The UN, Mikhail Gorbachev, Jacques Chirac, and other world-government wannabes are plotting to establish nothing less than a global, bureaucratic-centralist dictatorship under the pretext that it is necessary to 'Save The Planet'.

Ian Wishart's book demonstrates that there is not the slightest scientific reason for the new, quasi-religious belief that The Planet needs Saving. The new religion is merely an excuse for world government. World government will not, repeat not, be democratic government.

The 'global warming' debate is not really a debate about climatology - it is a debate about freedom. It is the aim of the growing world-government faction among the international classe politique to take away our hard-won freedom and democracy forever.

I commend this timely book, which makes the scientific arguments comprehensible to the layman. Those who read it will help to forestall the new Fascists and so to keep us free. --Lord Christopher Monckton, Viscount of Brenchley, former scientific advisor to Margaret Thatcher "

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Shallow NEWS coverage? Shallow environmental organization coverage.
Posted by: Beck on Aug 17, 2009 5:39 AM   
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Yeah, the news is only slowly picking up on this, but they've made more progress in the last few years than most environmental groups. They've progressed from ignoring the situation to at least covering it, and there have been some primetime specials, etc. The environmental groups like Sierra Club, though, are stalled. They reinforce the pervading notion that the denialists' whole premise is built upon: our lifestyles are too precious to even examine, let alone alter. Look at any copy of Sierra magazine and see the many trips listed in the end. Every one is flown to, mainlining emissions right where they do the most harm. They deflect the problem by claiming the trips are low-impact, that it's important to experience other cultures (important for whom?) and that you can always buy carbon offsets (maybe I should sell smoking offsets to those hooked on cigarettes; I don't smoke, so smokers can pay me to not smoke for them).

Anyhow, the worst thing about these trips is that they reinforce the thinking that got us here: our fulfillment is not only the most important thing, compared to anything else, it's the only important thing. Try to talk about flying in groups of environmentalists and watch the conversation flounder. It doesn't with any other topic. But how can a person acknowledge something is truly harmful when they're simultaneously certain that they'd be a fool to give it up?

I read somewhere that two long flights is like driving a Hummer for a year.

Most of the needed changes that have happened started with a combination of personal change and pressure to change laws. We could all boycott air travel for a couple of years and force change.

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My..My...My
Posted by: Farmertim on Aug 17, 2009 5:50 AM   
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the coal gas and electric industry has a few plants commenting this site now don't they...

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EZPZ. The answer is evolution.
Posted by: ABetterFuture on Aug 17, 2009 6:23 AM   
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Our instincts tell us to gobble. Those with less to gobble look to those with more as an example of what they ought to have; those with more look for ways to stay ahead of those with less.

Compassion and empathy are relatively new things. Employing logic and an appreciation for the abstract--i.e., what could, might, may happen in hundreds of years given X behavior by Y numbers of people in Z locations--is a brand-spanking new behavior, in geological time.

We're resourceful enough to perpetuate the species, I even suspect if that means building massive CO2 scrubbers, knookyoulehr reactors, and living under a mountain for hundred (possibly a few thousand?) years. Maybe that will be long enough to give the* species a fresh start.

No, while I retain some hope that the greatest alarmist are practicing more alchemy than science, that we have much more time than they scream at us, and that there are homeostatic systems in place that are unaccounted for, I suspect that every bit of cheaply available coal and oil will be spent. Initiatives to switch to more expensive options in "eco-morality" states will only indirectly subsidize they're being burnt in less "eco-moral" states.

Humans adapt well to scorching heat and terrible cold. We, and the things we depend on, don't often fare so well as pH swings to and fro.

*yeah, I know

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Catastrophic scenario? Don't make me laugh.
Posted by: AJR Journal on Aug 17, 2009 6:35 AM   
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This author/whore is just trying to sell books. If he can do it by hyping the apocalyptic scenario, he will do it.
These "The End is Near!" articles on AlterNet are always good for a morning chuckle.
The "Hydrogen-Sulfide" extinction article is still the best of the bunch.

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we have shallow news coverage everywhere
Posted by: sharonsylvie on Aug 17, 2009 7:37 AM   
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One reason why people are so ignorant is the lack of factual news. We have shallow coverage on everything so we know nothing. Several years ago the Pentagon commissioned a study of global warming and concluded it presented more dangers than terrorism. I don't think it was mentioned at all in the U.S. and I had to read about it in a British newspaper (which has the link to the actual report). Anybody who posts comments trying to disprove global warming is probably an industry shill.

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BA
Posted by: mnstra on Aug 17, 2009 7:48 AM   
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very important article.But dont blame the media/The so called man on the street could not care less about the mega problem of global warming. If they did pay some attention, they could not do anything about it at their level. All people want to do is ,shop, sex , gossip, and zone out to their favorite TV program. You can forget the media being a leader. In a sense your writer is very naive.We do need more elder wisdom on these blogs.

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The Size of Greed
Posted by: BeyondBeliefs on Aug 17, 2009 8:26 AM   
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The earth is SMALL compared to the size of our GREED.

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An interesting show
Posted by: talkville on Aug 17, 2009 8:52 AM   
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I watched a presentation last night by James Ellis, apparently advancing a theory called "The Gaia Theory" and offering a way of understanding our planet as a unified, living organism with an immense quantity of metabolic processes constantly operating. This "organic view" and approach to environmental and other social matters seems to me to offer much in the way of a positive advance over current understandings and approaches. Of course, I'm not qualified to offer any positive evidences as to its accuracy or truth content.

But it seems to me that approaches like these and those developing in the ecology, geo-science and bio-science areas hold much in the way of promise. At the very least, they deserve serious and more widespread attention in our popular discussions.

I don't know about "last chances" like this article seems to emphasize, but I sure do agree that we are way, way behind in confronting a host of issues that have been suppressed and even denied as our current habits of living have been developing.

There are glimmers of light at least, if obscurantism, disorientation and all kinds of attempts to keep us in narrow and blind ways of living don't succeed in their intense efforts these days.

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The points about media are astute, but what is ignored...
Posted by: leafsong1 on Aug 17, 2009 9:05 AM   
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...is the adverse effect of alarmists talking about how all life on Earth is threatened. Even to say that global warming threatens the survival of the human race is probably an exaggeration and is certain to be viewed as such. Global warming will cause vast human suffering; that is reason enough to avoid it. Since the science is clear, piling fake controversy on fake controversy does nothing to mitigate the fake controversy.

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Our Last Chance to Preserve Life On Earth Is Slipping Away
Posted by: pfm on Aug 17, 2009 9:32 AM   
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I rise to note it increasingly appears use of hyperbole is one of our preferred methods of attempting to be heard. I am in inclined to confess, too, fall into that trap. That being said, it strikes me the headline for this article … OUR LAST CHANCE TO PERSERVE LIFE ON EARTH IS SLIPPING AWAY … appears designed to send a most chilling yet equal information hyperbole to that which this article chooses to chastise.

Might it be that “we” – that’s you and me – have seen so many articles, TV headlines, news flashes, blogs, books, movies claiming … LAST CHANCE … so as to make us immune…? We are literally inundated almost daily with yet another LAST CHANCE to the point where we merely tune out these words and all the information associated with it.

We do not need data or information to engulf us, we need data and information provided to us in a clear, concise, understand, full, open, honest, timely DISCLOSURE allowing us to sift and separate what for us is the wheat from the chaff giving us the means to arrive at our initial conclusion always subject to modification pending additional relevant input.

Respectfully submitted,

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The North American Continent
Posted by: BeyondBeliefs on Aug 17, 2009 9:37 AM   
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The North American Continent was once covered in forests full of Life. More species of life are currently extinct, than species that now exists here. The destruction of creation is not theoretical.

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Bye Bye, Assholes
Posted by: QQOblivion on Aug 17, 2009 10:18 AM   
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I'm looking forward to total destruction. Then the end will come for these pathetic and evil sadists of a race, human beings. GOOD RIDDANCE!

My only regret is that the end will also come for many innocent species as well.

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Life on Earth will continue . . .
Posted by: dudelette on Aug 17, 2009 10:26 AM   
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it just won't be human. Some humans will survive, but the world we know is in its death throes.

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As time goes by
Posted by: badkitty on Aug 17, 2009 10:30 AM   
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As time goes by, I get less and less hopeful. Most people, judging by their representatives in Congress, have no understanding of what climate change will do to their lives and the lives of their children. I make the changes I can in my life--I got rid of my car last year, buy organic, from farmers markets if possible, and try to source food from within 100 miles of my home. We just made the last payment on my husband's car, and I don't intend for us to buy a car again, if I can help it. Yesterday I had lunch with my best friend from junior high, and she says they'll never buy another car (they have a 99 something, and a 97 Volvo Sedan). She and her husband shop like we do. Her next door neighbors sold their home in the urban-wildlands interface and intentionally bought their new house within two blocks of a shopping area, so they could walk to the grocery store. We're a minority, we don't have much hope, but we do what we can to delay the day of reckoning. Of course, we don't watch much TV either, we read...

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Handful of scientists making a little money from scary books is why global warming exists
Posted by: MT512 on Aug 17, 2009 10:52 AM   
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There are a few scientists who have spent their entire professional lives researching this stuff and becoming experts. Of course, they know there is no global warming or any ill effects of mankind's use of resources. But here is the conspiracy. These handfuls of scientists write scary books they know they can sell to gullible "liberals" and "environmentalists" and other people who are so stupid they actually care about more than money (what a bunch of idiots!). So these authors are making perhaps tens of thousands of dollars off these suckers who buy their books! They are laughing at their readers, and rubbing their hands together and saying "muwah-haa-haa!" That's evil!

Similarly, Al Gore continues to push his global warming stuff to... uh, sell his movie so he can make millions! Everybody knows the big bucks are in selling hard-to-swallow truths that suggest a need for lifestyle change!

See, "global warming" was invented solely to make a profit for a few "scientists" who have "studied" "facts" and "concluded" things based on "evidence." Bah!

On the other hand you have the just, noble old-energy companies and their industries' lobbying representatives who are innocent and pure and they are spending millions and millions of dollars just trying to defend themselves against the evil scientists whose lies are spread insidiously through subversive publications like "scientific journals".

Is is not obvious that when you have an issue with one side populated by experts potentially breaking even with book sales exposing the truths people don't want to hear, and the other side made up of huge multinational corporations that have billions and billions of dollars to lose if that information becomes accepted as truth... that the evildoers in such a situation are clearly the greedy, book-selling scientists?

After all, that's why most people become scientists--to make it rich off of esoteric technical publications read by tiny groups of similarly-specialized experts.

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Our "people bubble" gets even less coverage.
Posted by: Sojourner on Aug 17, 2009 11:07 AM   
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Msm are in business to make money, so they will do what those who pay money are interested in. If you want coverage of real issues, watch public television. (Maybe also listen to NPR. although the last I heard they had been sold off by Bush's appointees.)

We have a people bubble, just as we had a credit bubble and still have the residue of a housing bubble. Bubbles lead to collapse, eventually. It's not a question of what, just when. It's easier to blame the msm than those who profit from the population explosion.

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The global warming myth makes billions for its creators
Posted by: Caleb Darkstar on Aug 17, 2009 1:06 PM   
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Al Gore and his minions have told this lie so many times it has become and inconvienient fallacy.

These same people get rich from the effort, the movies , the books, the taxes , the politics.

When Al gives up his palacial estate and stops jetting around the world making money off this hype I will look into it.

But why would he, all he has to do is buy some carbon credits and all is forgiven. Under this program I suppose he could own some slaves too. If he had a WAMCO SLAVE CREDIT program.

Absolute rubbish.

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Let's be realistic
Posted by: willymack on Aug 17, 2009 3:04 PM   
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Would the departure of the human species be a bad thing for our world?
The answer is HELL NO!
We're easily the WORST thing that ever happened to Planet Earth.

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Sweiger's non-solutions
Posted by: hughjones on Aug 17, 2009 3:16 PM   
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We are depending on fossil fuel for our prosperity and now our very existance. A hike in prices leads to starvation of the poorest (already in India, Egypt etc)
Sweiger is going to save us with solar and wind. With subsidies, non-commercial contracts etc it is hard to estimate the potential of energy sources. One very basic means is to measure the energy in vs. the return on a project. We have already discovered that more energy goes into a corn to ethanol project than comes out. Similarly oil shale projects are only now getting positive energy out after a hundred years of research. Initially conventional oil yielded almost 20 times the energy that went into producing all the equipment and transporting equipment and product. Oil sands are in the range of 3 out for 1 in. Do solar and wind ever give back the power that goes into the building and operation? No one in those industries will discuss this simple relation.
Secondly there is positive feedback. That is rising temperature causes more H2O, CO2, methane etc. and rising H2O, CO2, methane etc. causes rising temperature. H2O is massively the most important and is purely driven by temperature. Methane is many times more potent as a greenhouse gas than CO2 and it is being released from the tundra, from warming seas, rice farming and cattle farts. Ending anthropomorhic carbon emmissions won't stop any of this. We might delay the submergence of the Island Kingdom of Vanuatu by a day or two.
Seas will rise pushing populations into smaller areas, crops will fail.
But do not even mention that there may be too many humans. No! - fight against contraception and abortion, demand more babies in the West to fight our aging population, make it obvious how important children are by publicizing in-vitro fertilization and foreign adoption.
This way lies madness, chaos and starvation.
Hugh Jones Toronto Canada

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jump into the deep end
Posted by: sirios on Aug 17, 2009 9:43 PM   
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"Shallow news coverage causes most americans to underestimate the urgency of the threat of global warming" , but does not eliminate the shallowness of the viewer.

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Global cooling
Posted by: james_allen on Aug 18, 2009 3:37 AM   
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Although wrong in other ways, dobermanmacleod was correct to mention that we have the technology to cool the planet. (Specially engineered aerosols carried routinely by aircraft might be the simplest way, though simply using bombs to set off a volcano might be simpler. That this hasn't yet became a major part of the discussion is something of a mystery.)

A problem is that this does not solve all problems. CO2 is increasing ocean acidity and thus degrading its ecology, but cooling wouldn't remove CO2 from the air or ocean. There are other reasons why man-made "cooling" would be, at best, a short-term stopgap.

Reading some of the anti-science comments reinforces what to me is a major difference between America's "left" and "right". The former believes in science and reason; the latter seeks out lies that fit their emotions.

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EddDoerr
Posted by: EddDoerr on Aug 18, 2009 12:49 PM   
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Clearly our planet is in serious trouble from global warming, resource depletion, environmental degradation, pollution. But all our efforts to deal with these will come to naught if we do not deal with the problem of ever expanding population. This problem was spelled out in the Ford administration's 1975 (yes, 1975!) National Security Study Memorandum 200 report. Unfortunately, the report was mysteriously stamped "classified" and deep-sixed until almost the eve of the Rwanda massacre (which was caused in part by overpopulation in Africa's most densely populated country) and the 1994 UN Population Conference in Cairo. Various religious fundamentalisms have blocked serious efforts to defuse the population bomb, but we must defuse it as an essential part of our efforts to save the planet. Religious and cultural barriers to universal access to family planning imformation and aid, voluntary nonsurgical sterilization,and legal abortion must be swept out of the way. --- Edd Doerr, President, Americans for Religious Liberty, www.arlinc.org

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removing carbon
Posted by: hughjones on Aug 18, 2009 2:33 PM   
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Read about the option of stimulating the southern oceans to grow phytoplankton to capture the carbon. There are risks but it is one project that can be tried in a limited expirement. It might also increase the fish population.
Hugh Jones

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You can feel the warmth
Posted by: John_Birch on Aug 18, 2009 10:08 PM   
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Environmentalist: Uh-oh. It’s getting warm out here! Help, help! Our last chance is slipping away! Quick, give me your wallet!

Average Joe: Um, actually, the thermometer’s barely moved.

Environmentalist: Fool! Only scientists can read a thermometer! If you weren’t an idiot you’d know that!

Average Joe: In fact, it’s going down a little.

Environmentalist: That’s just more evidence its going up, you homophobic right wing extremist!

Average Joe: Maybe I should buy a meal for those poor folks next door instead.

Environmentalist: Whore! Troll! Oil company stooge! Thou deservest to be silenced!

Average Joe: Hey kids! How about some McDonalds?

Kids: Not if HE comes along...

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Does a fool make a straw man argument and expect it to fly?
Posted by: Changling on Aug 19, 2009 9:29 AM   
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Besides the Biblical admonition not to call others "fools" it is the measure of the thermometer over the year not just single days. It is the pattern over a period of time is how you get climate. Weather is a small component of climate. Really simple concepts that John_Birch and the like seems to be unaware. Maybe you should study science and not ideology. That would be an effective start to actually seeing the problem then tackling it before it tackles us!

That cooling of which you speak is relative to the hottest year on record which was 1997--all the other years are still the hottest recorded. But truly 2008 was cooler next to 1997 but not overall. Do you see the difference?

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Fairness Doctrine is a red herring
Posted by: DaBear on Aug 19, 2009 9:47 PM   
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Or a pollock, I can't tell which.

Anyway, the FD horseshit ain't all it's cracked up to be in hindsight. Nostalgia is a pathetic substitute for truth. FD is what gave rise to rampant false binarism in Amerikaaner "journalism" and actually contributed to its ultimate demise under media consolidation and corporatism.

Don't put on the rose colored glasses, they won't make the shit stink any less.

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DVD to Pockert PC
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But his mere presence in Los Angeles — coupled with Mr. McClellan’s commitment to exhibitionistic blogging about his thoughts on little girls — has set parents on edge. One group of mothers, whose members by and large have never met before, will soon band together in a coffee shop to hammer out plans to push lawmakers in Sacramento to legislate Mr. McClellan out of business.

“Just the idea that this person could get away with what he was doing and no one could press charges has made me angry,” said Jane Thompson, a stay-at-home mother in East Los Angeles who recently read Mr. McClellan’s comments about a festival in her neighborhood in which he seemed to be describing her child.

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Dear Tony
Posted by: shellius on Sep 2, 2009 2:44 AM   
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Who is paying you to spread this misinformation? Someone is.

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Excellent read on the impact of politics on our science
Posted by: ForwardProgress on Sep 3, 2009 4:07 AM   
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When a friend asked me: "Yes but what can I do? It's *global* warming, after all," I recommended she read "Last Chance, Preserving Life on Earth." Yes, the title is daunting, but this book is so readable.

The author, Larry J. Schweiger, weaves his journey through life through the three major parts of his book, and makes the case based on his own ethics. “Global warming will harm children on the right as well as those on the left,” he writes. And then he tells readers what to do about it.

“Last Chance” is an excellent contemporary read on the impact of politics on our science, all in a human-sized proportion. It’s about what’s going at levels greater than the reader, but, even more important, the author gives give readers a role to play. We know there are problems, but don’t quite know how to respond. This book is a great guide to our personal response. It includes sections called, “What You Can Do,” loaded with practical, do-able actions that anyone – a child, parent or grand-parent -- can take.

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