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Why Is a Slate Writer Shilling for Goldman Sachs? Taibbi Shreds the Latest Wall Street PR
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So you can see why Goldman alums sometimes don’t do very impressively once they leave Goldman. They find themselves in positions where no one questions their premises and it’s hard to get good feedback and pushback. (This is why Paulson employed telephone banks of analysts to call Wall Street to solicit opinions.) Outside of the Goldman womb of debate and ideas, bankers and traders lack perspective. You might say that no Goldman is an island. -- Will Everyone Please Shut Up About Goldman Sachs? | The Big Money, Slate.
And the winner of this month’s Most Retarded Horseshit Written In Defense of Goldman Sachs award goes to… Heidi Moore at Big Money! Come on down, Heidi!
This stuff is just getting funnier and funnier. Now that both Michael Lewis and Joe Hagan at New York have piled on and hammered the “magical” Wall Street bank’s reputation, the tearful, wounded apologies on the bank’s behalf are trickling in with some more urgency, especially now that, as Moore puts it, the bank faces the specter of “disastrously populist” hearings in the Senate for (and Moore left out this part) selling crap mortgages while shorting them at the same time.
This latest effort by Moore over at the Slate-run “Big Money” column is absolutely hilarious. She manages to write a fairly lengthy three-page article defending Goldman without addressing a single one of the main criticisms recently leveled at the bank. The piece is a protracted exercise in goalpost-moving, as her premise is that what Goldman’s critics accuse it of is not using the power of the state to bail itself out and enrich itself at the expense of others, but of having “designed the kind of hive mind that controls anything it touches.” According to Moore, the defense against the charge that Goldman executives have “the kind of hive mind that can control everything that it touches” is the fact that they fared so badly in their attempts at “controlling” government and popular opinion. She actually writes the following:
If you believe that Goldman Sachs has designed the kind of devastating hive mind that can control any institution it touches, including the U.S. government, you also have to explain why Goldman Sachs alums have a history of not functioning terribly well outside of Goldman. Why, for instance, did Henry Paulson, by all accounts a brilliant man, flounder about in the politics of the Treasury so desperately that he was forced at one point to plead with Nancy Pelosi on bended knee? Why did the first TARP overseer, Neel Kashkari, get yelled at by Congress while performing the thankless job of managing the $700 billion kitty of the government? Why did Edward Liddy, former Goldman board member who served as the new CEO of AIG (AIG), quit in a huff over bonuses?
Moore here is arguing that because Hank Paulson actually had to beg the House majority leader for $700 billion in no-strings-attached money to bail out his buddies, and because Neel Kashkari got “yelled at” for unilaterally changing the TARP mission in defiance of congressional orders (and for refusing to provide congress with information about where TARP money went and how he chose whom to give it to), and because former Goldman banker Ed Liddy evoked popular anger for using public money to shell out bonuses to the very department of AIG that bet $450 billion without having a dime to cover it (”necessitating” the bailout), that all of this somehow is proof that Goldman does not “have the kind of hive mind that conrols everything.”
In Moore’s mind, (or, as a friend of mine would put it, “in what passes for Moore’s mind”) this is a defense of Goldman because, if Goldman was as powerful as we all say, Goldman would have just zapped its “hive mind” at Nancy Pelosi, congress, and the public, and none of those parties would have bothered to criticize the bank. Logically put! Let’s put this argument into the form of a syllogism:
All all-powerful hive-mind institutions can make themselves immune to criticism,
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Posted by: talkville on Aug 1, 2009 3:46 AM
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It's just that they lie, steal, cheat and defraud in very sloooowwwwww moootionnnnn....
And they are immensely successful at that!
In the long-run, they not only dispossess and dislocate and otherwise defraud just a couple of yokels and rubes -- they patiently work at it and do it to whole towns, cities, states, societies. In the long-run....
Meanwhile they just stay out of the limelight nice and quiet, going about their business operations in drudgingly routine and boring ways. Only rarely across the years do Corporate Behemoths like this arise into the consciousness of the societies they operate in.
Don't "take the money and run"; walk and saunter, and take it and keep taking it as you go....
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Posted by: timenotonmyside on Aug 1, 2009 4:38 AM
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More journalists should be out there telling the real stories, as Matt has done.
Instead we are getting the ''heidi's'' of the world who for a Prada bag will write what the boss wants.
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Posted by: timenotonmyside on Aug 1, 2009 4:43 AM
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Well, snap you too Heidi !
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Posted by: weathered on Aug 1, 2009 4:55 AM
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Again, pls. make a profit don't be a fucking pig. For some greed is a selfish choice for others, its in their DNA.
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Aug 1, 2009 6:54 AM
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The illegal and unnecessary invasion into Iraq has cost US a Trillion. The Bank Bailout somewhere between 1-3 Trillion. The bottoming out of the GDP adds trillions more in required borrowing to undig this hole. This Shit Started long ago with Reagans deregualtion Bonanza and proceeded into Clintons and came to fruition during W's. The only Admin who can Not be saddled with responsiblity for the currrent situation and the costs associated with rectifiying it ,is The Obama admin!That's like holding the surgeon who failed to save the gun shot victims life Responsible for his death!
I'd like to state unequivocally that Goldman Sachs attempts at PR and deflection would fail- but seeing how many absolute Morons are now gullible enough to buy the Repug claims of innocenence and Wisedom in this matter, I fear they,too, will be successful.
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» But Obama is tied to Goldman Sachs and is in bed with them.
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Posted by: The_Curmudgeon on Aug 1, 2009 8:01 AM
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There was a time when one of my first on-line stops every morning was at Slate. But I realised long ago that it - like its parent - had become a steno pad for vested interests rather than a dynamic source of journalism that questioned the status quo.
Somewhere, Katherine Graham is weeping.
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Add to the every growing list of shills;
“Ex-government official Eliot Spitzer admits Federal Reserve is a Ponzi Scheme”. Evidently a person who has an eye for the ladies has now become the current official distractor for the Federal Reserve and their cronies Goldman Sachs. Now on the corrupt media circuit using ultra hype buzz words as subterfuge for the controlled criminal financial markets.
The titans of compound interest and self serving greed equations regal in FAILURE. The self immolation elite cause of the worlds demise continue to laugh at the suckers, chumps, and taxpayer with ever greater bonus rewards. Removal of all restrictions the financial banking Elites, Wall Strret Barons, Hedge Fund parasites payment of bonuses are not merit or performance fueled. These bonus rewards are primarily based on the total amount of worthless fiat paper contracts that are bought sold traded daily for the firms.
The current Reverse Robin Hoods are FAILING UPWARDS "TO BIG TO FAIL" while the masses "TO SMALL TO SAVE" are given acres of myth-cake
to accelerate FAILURE DOWNWARD.
http://21stcenturyreversepyramid.blogspot.com/
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The executive has a diploma in business administration.
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Posted by: talkville on Aug 1, 2009 3:46 AM
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It's just that they lie, steal, cheat and defraud in very sloooowwwwww moootionnnnn....
And they are immensely successful at that!
In the long-run, they not only dispossess and dislocate and otherwise defraud just a couple of yokels and rubes -- they patiently work at it and do it to whole towns, cities, states, societies. In the long-run....
Meanwhile they just stay out of the limelight nice and quiet, going about their business operations in drudgingly routine and boring ways. Only rarely across the years do Corporate Behemoths like this arise into the consciousness of the societies they operate in.
Don't "take the money and run"; walk and saunter, and take it and keep taking it as you go....
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Posted by: timenotonmyside on Aug 1, 2009 4:38 AM
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More journalists should be out there telling the real stories, as Matt has done.
Instead we are getting the ''heidi's'' of the world who for a Prada bag will write what the boss wants.
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Posted by: timenotonmyside on Aug 1, 2009 4:43 AM
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Well, snap you too Heidi !
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Posted by: weathered on Aug 1, 2009 4:55 AM
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Again, pls. make a profit don't be a fucking pig. For some greed is a selfish choice for others, its in their DNA.
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Posted by: Purple Girl on Aug 1, 2009 6:54 AM
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The illegal and unnecessary invasion into Iraq has cost US a Trillion. The Bank Bailout somewhere between 1-3 Trillion. The bottoming out of the GDP adds trillions more in required borrowing to undig this hole. This Shit Started long ago with Reagans deregualtion Bonanza and proceeded into Clintons and came to fruition during W's. The only Admin who can Not be saddled with responsiblity for the currrent situation and the costs associated with rectifiying it ,is The Obama admin!That's like holding the surgeon who failed to save the gun shot victims life Responsible for his death!
I'd like to state unequivocally that Goldman Sachs attempts at PR and deflection would fail- but seeing how many absolute Morons are now gullible enough to buy the Repug claims of innocenence and Wisedom in this matter, I fear they,too, will be successful.
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» RE: "Obama's Economy" and 'Generational Theft' Ah?
Posted by: FLYING DOOFUS
» RE: "Obama's Economy" and 'Generational Theft' Ah?
Posted by: dougo
» RE: "Obama's Economy" and 'Generational Theft' Ah?
Posted by: Lex Thomas
» RE: "Obama's Economy" and 'Generational Theft' Ah?
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield
» You're damn right it's Obama's fault
Posted by: je5752
» RE: You're damn right it's Obama's fault
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield
» Conspiracy, accessory after the fact, obstruction of justice
Posted by: leafsong1
» Please learn to reason
Posted by: leafsong1
» RE: Please learn to reason
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield
» I think flying doofus finally got this one right.
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield
» RE: "Obama's Economy" and 'Generational Theft' Ah?
Posted by: Morell
» RE: "Obama's Economy" and 'Generational Theft' Ah?
Posted by: Lex Thomas
» RE: "Obama's Economy" and 'Generational Theft' Ah?
Posted by: Morell
» RE: "Obama's Economy" and 'Generational Theft' Ah?
Posted by: Lex Thomas
» But Obama is tied to Goldman Sachs and is in bed with them.
Posted by: Lex Thomas
» RE: But Obama is tied to Goldman Sachs and is in bed with them.
Posted by: JenniferBedingfield
» RE: But Obama is tied to Goldman Sachs and is in bed with them.
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» RE: Keep it up Taibbi, we'll see these bastards heads on pikes someday - I hope.
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» Don't demean Pikes
Posted by: Hiroak
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Posted by: The_Curmudgeon on Aug 1, 2009 8:01 AM
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There was a time when one of my first on-line stops every morning was at Slate. But I realised long ago that it - like its parent - had become a steno pad for vested interests rather than a dynamic source of journalism that questioned the status quo.
Somewhere, Katherine Graham is weeping.
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» RE: Goldman players in Aspen - Telluride
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» Actually - they're knocking down the doors
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Posted by: ak47blog on Aug 1, 2009 8:16 AM
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Add to the every growing list of shills;
“Ex-government official Eliot Spitzer admits Federal Reserve is a Ponzi Scheme”. Evidently a person who has an eye for the ladies has now become the current official distractor for the Federal Reserve and their cronies Goldman Sachs. Now on the corrupt media circuit using ultra hype buzz words as subterfuge for the controlled criminal financial markets.
The titans of compound interest and self serving greed equations regal in FAILURE. The self immolation elite cause of the worlds demise continue to laugh at the suckers, chumps, and taxpayer with ever greater bonus rewards. Removal of all restrictions the financial banking Elites, Wall Strret Barons, Hedge Fund parasites payment of bonuses are not merit or performance fueled. These bonus rewards are primarily based on the total amount of worthless fiat paper contracts that are bought sold traded daily for the firms.
The current Reverse Robin Hoods are FAILING UPWARDS "TO BIG TO FAIL" while the masses "TO SMALL TO SAVE" are given acres of myth-cake
to accelerate FAILURE DOWNWARD.
http://21stcenturyreversepyramid.blogspot.com/
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