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Neocon US Colonel Calls for Military Attacks on "Partisan Media"
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In the era of embedded media, independent journalists have become the eyes and ears of the world. Without those un-embedded journalists willing to risk their lives to place themselves on the other side of the barrel of the tank or the gun or under the airstrikes, history would be written almost entirely from the vantage point of powerful militaries, or—at the very least—it would be told from the perspective of the troops doing the shooting, rather than the civilians who always pay the highest price.
In the case of the Iraq invasion and occupation, the journalists who have placed themselves in danger most often are local Iraqi journalists. Some 116 Iraqi journalists and media workers have been killed in the line of duty since March 2003. In all, 189 journalists have been killed in Iraq. At least 16 of these journalists were killed by the US military, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists. The network that has most often found itself under US attack is Al Jazeera. As I wrote a few years ago in The Nation:
The United States bombed its offices in Afghanistan in 2001, shelled the Basra hotel where Al Jazeera journalists were the only guests in April 2003, killed Iraq correspondent Tareq Ayoub a few days later in Baghdad and imprisoned several Al Jazeera reporters (including at Guantánamo), some of whom say they were tortured. In addition to the military attacks, the US-backed Iraqi government banned the network from reporting in Iraq.
A new report for a leading neoconservative group which pushes a belligerent “Israel first” agenda of conquest in the Middle East suggests that in future wars the US should make censorship of media official policy and advocates “military attacks on the partisan media.” (H/T MuzzleWatch) The report for JINSA, the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs, was authored by retired US Army Colonel Ralph Peters. It appears in JINSA’s “flagship publication,” The Journal of International Security Affairs. “Today, the United States and its allies will never face a lone enemy on the battlefield. There will always be a hostile third party in the fight,” Peters writes, calling the media, “The killers without guns:”
Of course, the media have shaped the outcome of conflicts for centuries, from the European wars of religion through Vietnam. More recently, though, the media have determined the outcomes of conflicts. While journalists and editors ultimately failed to defeat the U.S. government in Iraq, video cameras and biased reporting guaranteed that Hezbollah would survive the 2006 war with Israel and, as of this writing, they appear to have saved Hamas from destruction in Gaza.
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Although it seems unthinkable now, future wars may require censorship, news blackouts and, ultimately, military attacks on the partisan media. Perceiving themselves as superior beings, journalists have positioned themselves as protected-species combatants. But freedom of the press stops when its abuse kills our soldiers and strengthens our enemies. Such a view arouses disdain today, but a media establishment that has forgotten any sense of sober patriotism may find that it has become tomorrow’s conventional wisdom.
The point of all this is simple: Win. In warfare, nothing else matters. If you cannot win clean, win dirty. But win. Our victories are ultimately in humanity’s interests, while our failures nourish monsters.
It is, of course, very appropriate that such a despicable battle cry for murdering media workers appears in a JINSA publication. The organization has long boasted an all-star cast of criminal “advisors.” Among them: Dick Cheney, Richard Perle, James Woolsey, John Bolton, Douglas Feith and others. JINSA, along with the Project for a New American Century, was one of the premiere groups in shaping US policy during the Bush years and remains a formidable force with Obama in the White House.
Reading Colonel Peters’s sick and twisted essay reminded me of the report that emerged in late 2005 about an alleged Bush administration plot to bomb Al Jazeera’s international headquarters in Qatar, which I covered for The Nation:
Britain’s Daily Mirror reported that during an April 2004 White House meeting with British Prime Minister Tony Blair, George W. Bush floated the idea of bombing Al Jazeera’s international headquarters in Qatar. This allegation was based on leaked “Top Secret” minutes of the Bush-Blair summit. British Attorney General Lord Goldsmith has activated the Official Secrets Act, threatening any publication that publishes any portion of the memo (he has already brought charges against a former Cabinet staffer and a former parliamentary aide). So while we don’t yet know the contents of the memo, we do know that at the time of Bush’s meeting with Blair, the Administration was in the throes of a very public, high-level temper tantrum directed against Al Jazeera. The meeting took place on April 16, at the peak of the first US siege of Falluja, and Al Jazeera was one of the few news outlets broadcasting from inside the city. Its exclusive footage was being broadcast by every network from CNN to the BBC.
The Falluja offensive, one of the bloodiest assaults of the US occupation, was a turning point. In two weeks that April, thirty marines were killed as local guerrillas resisted US attempts to capture the city. Some 600 Iraqis died, many of them women and children. Al Jazeera broadcast from inside the besieged city, beaming images to the world. On live TV the network gave graphic documentary evidence disproving US denials that it was killing civilians. It was a public relations disaster, and the United States responded by attacking the messenger.
Just a few days before Bush allegedly proposed bombing the network, Al Jazeera’s correspondent in Falluja, Ahmed Mansour, reported live on the air, “Last night we were targeted by some tanks, twice…but we escaped. The US wants us out of Falluja, but we will stay.” On April 9 Washington demanded that Al Jazeera leave the city as a condition for a cease-fire. The network refused. Mansour wrote that the next day “American fighter jets fired around our new location, and they bombed the house where we had spent the night before, causing the death of the house owner Mr. Hussein Samir. Due to the serious threats we had to stop broadcasting for few days because every time we tried to broadcast the fighter jets spotted us we became under their fire.”
On April 11 senior military spokesperson Mark Kimmitt declared, “The stations that are showing Americans intentionally killing women and children are not legitimate news sources. That is propaganda, and that is lies.” On April 15 Donald Rumsfeld echoed those remarks in distinctly undiplomatic terms, calling Al Jazeera’s reporting “vicious, inaccurate and inexcusable…. It’s disgraceful what that station is doing.” It was the very next day, according to the Daily Mirror, that Bush told Blair of his plan. “He made clear he wanted to bomb al-Jazeera in Qatar and elsewhere,” a source told the Mirror. “There’s no doubt what Bush wanted to do—and no doubt Blair didn’t want him to do it.”
Lest people think that the views of people like Col. Ralph Peters and the JINSA/PNAC neocons are relics of the past, remember that the Obama administration includes heavy hitters from this world among its ranks, as well as fierce neocon supporters. While they may no longer be literally calling the shots, as they did under Bush/Cheney, their disproportionate influence on US policy endures.
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Posted by: socrates2 on May 25, 2009 2:08 AM
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The times are such that the sociopaths feel it is the most "normal thing" in the world to publicize their intentions and rationalize homicide as the just elimination of the un-patriotic. These individuals have such a distorted, perverted, and paranoid view of the world that they disregard our Jeffersonian traditions; they have no idea who they work for, who pays their wages, and what principles they are supposed to defend.
On the other hand, perhaps a military coup happened long ago and we're just beginning to realize it.
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Posted by: pfgetty on May 25, 2009 3:37 AM
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You all are brave enough to stick your heads up in the middle of battle.
But when it comes to exposing the overwhelming evidence that 9/11 is an inside job, NONE of you are brave enough.
I began watching you on Democracy Now. I learned about WMD lies before anyone else I know because of Amy Goodman. I learned about Blackwater, too, and Confessions of an Economic Hitman, and the rest.
And then it suddenly dawned on me...........you had censored all information about the evidence that the official story of 9/11 is a lie.
I can't possibly be that you don't recognize the lies. A little bit of looking and an open mind about the schemes possibly by our leaders, which I know you are aware of, and they are GLARING us in the face!
What IS it, Jeremy? Is it because a lot of support comes from foundations, which are backed by individuals or groups that would be hurt by exposing 9/11?
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» No........it IS the profession. If they were honest, they couldn't ignore this:
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» uh...did you read the abstract? or the report?
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» I didn't say "aluminum". I said nano-aluminum.
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» So which is it, "thermite", "thermate" or "nanothermite"?
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» How to read the above
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» Thanks. At least we are getting somewhere as to why journalists are scared off the real story of911
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» Fear?
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» RE: Yes, journalists are sometimes brave. Why aren't they brave enough to expose 911 as the lie it is.
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» The article's title contains "neo-Con"; therefore I can SPAM my BULLSH*T 911 propaganda. 9FUCKIN11!
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» RE: Yes, journalists are sometimes brave. Why aren't they brave enough to expose 911 as the lie it
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» Who do you think is burying this proof that 9/11 was an inside job? Jeremy, do you know?
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Posted by: DrBrian on May 25, 2009 4:44 AM
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When professionals compromise their impartiality, advance military objectives and take instructions from combatants, they violate their professional ethics, disserve the public and make targets or themselves.
While the colonel's diatribe is over the top, it results from overly close relationships between media and military. However, even truly fair and balanced media can become targets; fortunately Blair, in a rare flash of good judgment, was able to dissuade Bush from attacking al Jazeera. But would I have advised the bombing of Radio Mille Collines's tower to reduce the carnage in Rwanda? Yes.
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Posted by: Purple Girl on May 25, 2009 5:53 AM
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These Decievers keep saying 'Socialist' to deflect away from their Communist/Facist Agenda.
Anyone one yet fianlly realizing these people are NOT AMERICANS? But those who despise and are trying to destroy America? Can you say 'RED COATS'.A clear and unmistakeable phrase which proves our Founders embraced the concepts of Pure socialism "WE the People".
What country do these treasonous SOBs think they are in? Who the Hell do they think they Are- all Powerful Nobles? "What planet are You From" (appropo question posed by Sen McCaskill)- we have had a Free Press since our inception- OVER TWO CENTURIES AGO! There was no (*) stating it was to be revoked during Wars or conflicts!
"they Hate US for our Freedoms" -Perhaps they are accusing US of not affording These self anointed Nobles the Liberties and Priviledges they still think they deserve over "WE the People"
Keep Talking, Keep typing 'anything you say can and WILL be used agaisnt you in a court of Law'
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Posted by: bobtr900 on May 25, 2009 6:04 AM
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The Rethugs are fear and war mongers. the Rethugs are composed of the Cons(conservatives), Neocons and the Theocons. The Cons fear for their money, the Neocons for their security and the Theocons fear for their religious theology. They are all tightly aligned with the Repub party. It is full of very fearful people. Two recent fMRI university studies seem to point in that direction.
The Theocons include the Catholic Church, my own religion. But they are all really fearful people who will kill if and when they do not get their own way. They are all people who have very meager moral values. To them the sky is always falling, and danger is always about to engulf them. They rule American life and they fear everyone who does not agree with every item in their litany of fears. That's one reason why they get everyone else to do their fighting and dying for them. Just look at Bush and Cheney's service records as well as the service records of a lot of them. They either didn't ever serve or served a minimal time and in total safety, like Rumsfeld and Gonzales.
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» can you imagne the hissy-fit that would happen...
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Posted by: ExposeTheIsraelLobby on May 25, 2009 7:26 AM
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Watch the following videos on the carving up of Iraq:
youtube.com/watch?v=u4MdyJDnSoI
youtube.com/watch?v=yp_iTR9dI6o
Washington Post Q & A with PBS Frontline director Michael Kirk
QUESTION: In making your film, what were you able to learn about who originated the "deep deBaathification" and the "disband the Iraqi army" decisions? Did you learn what motivated these disastrous decisions?
KIRK: The idea of deBaathification seems to have grown out of the offices of Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith at the Pentagon.
Video: See/hear Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif) say the following at AIPAC:
"The Persian population in Iran is not a majority, it is a plurality. There are many different, diverse and disagreeing populations inside Iran. And an obvious strategy, which I believe is a very good strategy, is to work to separate those populations."
Video: Jane Harman at AIPAC (1:20 minutes in)
Read Philip Weiss' blog entry about a former Chomsky devotee describe the Israel Lobby: "it's as if The Protocols of the Elders of Zion have come to life."
Tanya Reinhart Reportedly Likened Lobby to 'Protocols of Elders of Zion'
Pro-Palestinian activist Jeffrey Blankfort related the above story to Phil. See Jeff here:
youtube.com/watch?v=CNf2SntA3pk
youtube.com/watch?v=mEKha_SZUJM
Check out 'A War for Israel' by Jeffrey Blankfort
leftcurve.org/LC28WebPages/WarForIsrael.html
JINSA's founding members include Richard Perle and Michael Ledeen, both are featured in the BBC documentary "The War Party", (part 1 of 5)
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Posted by: joeocho88 on May 25, 2009 7:34 AM
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WNY IS THE VOICE OF AN AVOWED ENEMY NEWS MEDIA BEING GIVEN ACCESS TO ANYTHING AMERICAN OR ANY TOP SECRET INFORMATION?
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS STOPS WHERE AMERICAN LIVE BEGIN!
NO WONDER THEY WERE SHOT. THEY WERE RECOGNIZED AS THE ESPIONAGE AGENTS THEY ARE AND THEY WERE DEALT WITH ACCORDINGLY!
I WOULD HAVE ORDERED THE SAME!
WHENEVER LIVES ARE AT STAKE --ESPECIALLY OUR TROOPS --AND AL JEZEERA IS BROADCASTING EVERY MOVE TO THE ENEMY SO THEIR PEOPLE CAN KILL OUR PEOPLE BETTER BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW MANY THERE ARE AND THEIR ARMAMENTS, ETC. WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM!
I WOULD LIKE TO EMBED AL JEZEERA AND THEIR LAUGHING CAMERAMEN WHO THOUGHT IT WAS WONDERFUL FUN WHILE PEOPLE WERE TORTURED TO DEATH AS THEY WERE GLEEFULLY FILMING -- I WOULD LIKE TO EMBED EACH ONE OF THOSE AL JESEERA MEDIA PUNKS GLEEFULLY IN SOLID STEEL WITH DESIGNER TANK TREADS ON THEIR SKULLS...
WHO IS ALLOWING THESE PEOPLE TO SPY ON US?
VIETNAM MADE MORE SENSE.
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Posted by: Midway54 on May 25, 2009 7:46 AM
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Posted by: RegK on May 25, 2009 8:23 AM
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Posted by: melpol on May 25, 2009 8:47 AM
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» Journalists can't create Moral high ground outta thin air!
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Posted by: login@bugmenot.com on May 25, 2009 10:19 AM
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I think the reason you liberals are upset about this is that you side with the anti-American and Anti-Israel "journalists".
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Posted by: Quannah on May 25, 2009 10:49 AM
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"Although it seems unthinkable now, future wars may require censorship, news blackouts and, ultimately, military attacks on the partisan media. Perceiving themselves as superior beings, journalists have positioned themselves as protected-species combatants."
Future wars? They did these very things in Iraq already... and they are continuing.
The protections offered to the media can be found in the Constitution, which the Crazy Colonel SWORE TO UPHOLD, but I guess he forgot that part.
Journalists are the only professionals who are given Constitutional protections. The Founders did that for a reason... to protect us from tyrannical assholes like Col. Peters.
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» I got enough of this manipulated media
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Posted by: Liam on May 25, 2009 12:49 PM
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Posted by: Ianni_Stragopulis on May 25, 2009 1:07 PM
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Fox News as you know fights back and you call them extreme right wing media. By the time you wake up guys, you'll find out that your country is gone for ever. United we stand? Ye maybe in a Stalag or Gulag! what a joke!
The biggest whore in this world is the politics and you have the worst history on this subject
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Posted by: troy on May 25, 2009 1:26 PM
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The notion of winning an illegal war at any costs and eliminating free speech (actually punishing free speech) is antithema to our Constitution and values. Why is he not on trial for treason?
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Posted by: doalive on May 25, 2009 2:21 PM
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Posted by: hilaryuk on May 25, 2009 3:06 PM
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There in a nutshell you have the arrogant conviction that America invariably serves humanity's interests, the implicit belief that therefore any number of deaths of non-Americans are justified in pursuit of America winning, and the mind numbing failure to recognise that means shape ends. It may sometimes be necessary to use evil means against near absolute evil if that evil is coupled with near absolute power, but even then the noble end is polluted by the the road to achievement.
But the amorphous struggle against global terrorism undertaken by the US is primarily a battle of ideas. Using military methods that make your opponent look more noble or heroic or principled rather undermines the whole enterprise. Winning in the military sense is not possible and too much reliance thereon is self defeating. Killing/silencing the messenger won't always help either as witnessed by Gaza. OK, the American mainstream media could ignore it, but that minority of Americans who truly wanted to see what was happening could go on the internet. In other countries rather more than a minority take an interest in these things. Thus the Middle East street was well aware of what was happening.
The military mind can be a dangerous thing. If you are high ranking you may well be completed attuned to what is an unusually restricting ethical framework - free and wide ranging philosophical thinking is not particularly useful in the war machine. If you are of a fanatical disposition, you may well end up a little mad. Western style democracies once understood that democracy cannot exist when the military is not subordinate to the state.
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Posted by: Garvagh on May 25, 2009 4:02 PM
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Posted by: drone on May 25, 2009 4:10 PM
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This is his schtick. In his head, he's still fighting the Cold War, and writing horribly bad fiction. The good news is that he was so into his celebrity that even the Army made damned sure he never made flag rank.
The worst part of it is that he always thought he was the smartest person in the room, and rarely was that ever the case.
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Posted by: james108 on May 25, 2009 5:16 PM
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Israel targets scientists. We kill civilians.
When people started resisting the democrat/republican war on terror (I know, Democrats played good cop, but look at the votes. They've controlled Congress and the country for years now), the US military grade Anthrax went to media and some democratic members of Congress that weren't on board.
It's been messed up for a while, but as soon as that US military grade Anthrax, by strain and makeup, which even the FBI tracked to a US military base, started hitting the "liberal media" watchdogs and Congress, they fell right on board.
When it comes to military, the democratic and republican run US takes the most obvious, ruthless strategy, no matter how horrible we all think it is. It's just a matter of what can be properly positioned. I am not a monster by recognizing the obvious, am I?
The old saying holds true. When you ignore the violation of others, it eventually becomes you, your family or descendents. There is no violation of basic human rights that does not spread.
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Posted by: JoshuaLudd on May 25, 2009 5:32 PM
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That controverts international as well as american law, and frankly this man should be at the very least asked to retire with what little honor he has, or perhaps just courtmartial him for conduct unbecoming.
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Posted by: Jayzer on May 25, 2009 7:02 PM
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In your haste to declare that journalists who convey information that you would rather the public not hear be summarily executed, have you ever considered the possibility that anything that you wish could come back to you?
If you really think it too much bother to refute stories that you deem to be false, inflammatory and a threat to our troops and would prefer to resort to murder, then why should ANYONE obey you or your ilk?
As a matter of fact, if your calls to keep the empire sheltered from the consequences of its crime become any louder, then I will get just as loud and call out: TURN THE GUNS AROUND! ARREST THE WAR CRIMINALS AND IF THEY DON'T COME QUIETLY----FRAG THEM!
I sincerely hope that others will join me in that call because I suspect that there are other protofascists like you who just may take up your call, so I suspect that I will need some allies, too.
May you have many unpleasant nightmares, now that we're onto you.
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Posted by: Daito on May 26, 2009 8:59 AM
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Posted by: reelman on May 26, 2009 8:59 AM
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They are who they are...to deny reality is a liberal trademark...its a requirement for entry into lib-land...the place where we must work hard to become a large Cuba...liberals are so pathetic.
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Posted by: halg on May 31, 2009 8:52 PM
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Add to that the blindness of many posters here who seriously believe the media is controlled by the left. Oh, if only that were so. Truly leftist journalists would expose these rackets for just what they are: rackets. And the public would be outraged, bringing unbearable pressure to stop every one of these wars.
No, the media are owned and operated by the autocratic wealthy class. Do not be deceived by seeming overtures of "fairness" or balance in reporting. That is only done to comfort those who think they are leftist but do not read Chomsky, Zinn, or anything critical of the U.S. They are just as blind as their right-wing counterparts.
Remember, there is only so far reporters and journalists in the commercial media can go in criticizing the corporations partaking in war before their commercial advertisers become uncomfortable with the implications for their own enterprises. And PBS has become dangerously commercial as well, so take what they (don't) say with a grain of salt.
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Posted by: socrates2 on May 25, 2009 2:08 AM
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The times are such that the sociopaths feel it is the most "normal thing" in the world to publicize their intentions and rationalize homicide as the just elimination of the un-patriotic. These individuals have such a distorted, perverted, and paranoid view of the world that they disregard our Jeffersonian traditions; they have no idea who they work for, who pays their wages, and what principles they are supposed to defend.
On the other hand, perhaps a military coup happened long ago and we're just beginning to realize it.
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Posted by: pfgetty on May 25, 2009 3:37 AM
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You all are brave enough to stick your heads up in the middle of battle.
But when it comes to exposing the overwhelming evidence that 9/11 is an inside job, NONE of you are brave enough.
I began watching you on Democracy Now. I learned about WMD lies before anyone else I know because of Amy Goodman. I learned about Blackwater, too, and Confessions of an Economic Hitman, and the rest.
And then it suddenly dawned on me...........you had censored all information about the evidence that the official story of 9/11 is a lie.
I can't possibly be that you don't recognize the lies. A little bit of looking and an open mind about the schemes possibly by our leaders, which I know you are aware of, and they are GLARING us in the face!
What IS it, Jeremy? Is it because a lot of support comes from foundations, which are backed by individuals or groups that would be hurt by exposing 9/11?
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» Who do you think is burying this proof that 9/11 was an inside job? Jeremy, do you know?
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Posted by: DrBrian on May 25, 2009 4:44 AM
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When professionals compromise their impartiality, advance military objectives and take instructions from combatants, they violate their professional ethics, disserve the public and make targets or themselves.
While the colonel's diatribe is over the top, it results from overly close relationships between media and military. However, even truly fair and balanced media can become targets; fortunately Blair, in a rare flash of good judgment, was able to dissuade Bush from attacking al Jazeera. But would I have advised the bombing of Radio Mille Collines's tower to reduce the carnage in Rwanda? Yes.
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Posted by: Purple Girl on May 25, 2009 5:53 AM
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These Decievers keep saying 'Socialist' to deflect away from their Communist/Facist Agenda.
Anyone one yet fianlly realizing these people are NOT AMERICANS? But those who despise and are trying to destroy America? Can you say 'RED COATS'.A clear and unmistakeable phrase which proves our Founders embraced the concepts of Pure socialism "WE the People".
What country do these treasonous SOBs think they are in? Who the Hell do they think they Are- all Powerful Nobles? "What planet are You From" (appropo question posed by Sen McCaskill)- we have had a Free Press since our inception- OVER TWO CENTURIES AGO! There was no (*) stating it was to be revoked during Wars or conflicts!
"they Hate US for our Freedoms" -Perhaps they are accusing US of not affording These self anointed Nobles the Liberties and Priviledges they still think they deserve over "WE the People"
Keep Talking, Keep typing 'anything you say can and WILL be used agaisnt you in a court of Law'
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Posted by: bobtr900 on May 25, 2009 6:04 AM
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The Rethugs are fear and war mongers. the Rethugs are composed of the Cons(conservatives), Neocons and the Theocons. The Cons fear for their money, the Neocons for their security and the Theocons fear for their religious theology. They are all tightly aligned with the Repub party. It is full of very fearful people. Two recent fMRI university studies seem to point in that direction.
The Theocons include the Catholic Church, my own religion. But they are all really fearful people who will kill if and when they do not get their own way. They are all people who have very meager moral values. To them the sky is always falling, and danger is always about to engulf them. They rule American life and they fear everyone who does not agree with every item in their litany of fears. That's one reason why they get everyone else to do their fighting and dying for them. Just look at Bush and Cheney's service records as well as the service records of a lot of them. They either didn't ever serve or served a minimal time and in total safety, like Rumsfeld and Gonzales.
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Posted by: Lilly on May 25, 2009 6:47 AM
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Posted by: ExposeTheIsraelLobby on May 25, 2009 7:26 AM
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Watch the following videos on the carving up of Iraq:
youtube.com/watch?v=u4MdyJDnSoI
youtube.com/watch?v=yp_iTR9dI6o
Washington Post Q & A with PBS Frontline director Michael Kirk
QUESTION: In making your film, what were you able to learn about who originated the "deep deBaathification" and the "disband the Iraqi army" decisions? Did you learn what motivated these disastrous decisions?
KIRK: The idea of deBaathification seems to have grown out of the offices of Paul Wolfowitz and Douglas Feith at the Pentagon.
Video: See/hear Rep. Jane Harman (D-Calif) say the following at AIPAC:
"The Persian population in Iran is not a majority, it is a plurality. There are many different, diverse and disagreeing populations inside Iran. And an obvious strategy, which I believe is a very good strategy, is to work to separate those populations."
Video: Jane Harman at AIPAC (1:20 minutes in)
Read Philip Weiss' blog entry about a former Chomsky devotee describe the Israel Lobby: "it's as if The Protocols of the Elders of Zion have come to life."
Tanya Reinhart Reportedly Likened Lobby to 'Protocols of Elders of Zion'
Pro-Palestinian activist Jeffrey Blankfort related the above story to Phil. See Jeff here:
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youtube.com/watch?v=mEKha_SZUJM
Check out 'A War for Israel' by Jeffrey Blankfort
leftcurve.org/LC28WebPages/WarForIsrael.html
JINSA's founding members include Richard Perle and Michael Ledeen, both are featured in the BBC documentary "The War Party", (part 1 of 5)
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Posted by: joeocho88 on May 25, 2009 7:34 AM
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WNY IS THE VOICE OF AN AVOWED ENEMY NEWS MEDIA BEING GIVEN ACCESS TO ANYTHING AMERICAN OR ANY TOP SECRET INFORMATION?
POLITICAL CORRECTNESS STOPS WHERE AMERICAN LIVE BEGIN!
NO WONDER THEY WERE SHOT. THEY WERE RECOGNIZED AS THE ESPIONAGE AGENTS THEY ARE AND THEY WERE DEALT WITH ACCORDINGLY!
I WOULD HAVE ORDERED THE SAME!
WHENEVER LIVES ARE AT STAKE --ESPECIALLY OUR TROOPS --AND AL JEZEERA IS BROADCASTING EVERY MOVE TO THE ENEMY SO THEIR PEOPLE CAN KILL OUR PEOPLE BETTER BECAUSE THEY KNOW HOW MANY THERE ARE AND THEIR ARMAMENTS, ETC. WE HAVE A BIG PROBLEM!
I WOULD LIKE TO EMBED AL JEZEERA AND THEIR LAUGHING CAMERAMEN WHO THOUGHT IT WAS WONDERFUL FUN WHILE PEOPLE WERE TORTURED TO DEATH AS THEY WERE GLEEFULLY FILMING -- I WOULD LIKE TO EMBED EACH ONE OF THOSE AL JESEERA MEDIA PUNKS GLEEFULLY IN SOLID STEEL WITH DESIGNER TANK TREADS ON THEIR SKULLS...
WHO IS ALLOWING THESE PEOPLE TO SPY ON US?
VIETNAM MADE MORE SENSE.
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Posted by: Midway54 on May 25, 2009 7:46 AM
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Posted by: RegK on May 25, 2009 8:23 AM
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Posted by: login@bugmenot.com on May 25, 2009 10:19 AM
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I think the reason you liberals are upset about this is that you side with the anti-American and Anti-Israel "journalists".
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Posted by: Quannah on May 25, 2009 10:49 AM
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"Although it seems unthinkable now, future wars may require censorship, news blackouts and, ultimately, military attacks on the partisan media. Perceiving themselves as superior beings, journalists have positioned themselves as protected-species combatants."
Future wars? They did these very things in Iraq already... and they are continuing.
The protections offered to the media can be found in the Constitution, which the Crazy Colonel SWORE TO UPHOLD, but I guess he forgot that part.
Journalists are the only professionals who are given Constitutional protections. The Founders did that for a reason... to protect us from tyrannical assholes like Col. Peters.
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Posted by: Liam on May 25, 2009 12:49 PM
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Posted by: Starfall Deception on May 25, 2009 12:58 PM
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Posted by: Ianni_Stragopulis on May 25, 2009 1:07 PM
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Fox News as you know fights back and you call them extreme right wing media. By the time you wake up guys, you'll find out that your country is gone for ever. United we stand? Ye maybe in a Stalag or Gulag! what a joke!
The biggest whore in this world is the politics and you have the worst history on this subject
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Posted by: troy on May 25, 2009 1:26 PM
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The notion of winning an illegal war at any costs and eliminating free speech (actually punishing free speech) is antithema to our Constitution and values. Why is he not on trial for treason?
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Posted by: doalive on May 25, 2009 2:21 PM
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Posted by: hilaryuk on May 25, 2009 3:06 PM
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There in a nutshell you have the arrogant conviction that America invariably serves humanity's interests, the implicit belief that therefore any number of deaths of non-Americans are justified in pursuit of America winning, and the mind numbing failure to recognise that means shape ends. It may sometimes be necessary to use evil means against near absolute evil if that evil is coupled with near absolute power, but even then the noble end is polluted by the the road to achievement.
But the amorphous struggle against global terrorism undertaken by the US is primarily a battle of ideas. Using military methods that make your opponent look more noble or heroic or principled rather undermines the whole enterprise. Winning in the military sense is not possible and too much reliance thereon is self defeating. Killing/silencing the messenger won't always help either as witnessed by Gaza. OK, the American mainstream media could ignore it, but that minority of Americans who truly wanted to see what was happening could go on the internet. In other countries rather more than a minority take an interest in these things. Thus the Middle East street was well aware of what was happening.
The military mind can be a dangerous thing. If you are high ranking you may well be completed attuned to what is an unusually restricting ethical framework - free and wide ranging philosophical thinking is not particularly useful in the war machine. If you are of a fanatical disposition, you may well end up a little mad. Western style democracies once understood that democracy cannot exist when the military is not subordinate to the state.
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Posted by: Garvagh on May 25, 2009 4:02 PM
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Posted by: drone on May 25, 2009 4:10 PM
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This is his schtick. In his head, he's still fighting the Cold War, and writing horribly bad fiction. The good news is that he was so into his celebrity that even the Army made damned sure he never made flag rank.
The worst part of it is that he always thought he was the smartest person in the room, and rarely was that ever the case.
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Posted by: james108 on May 25, 2009 5:16 PM
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Israel targets scientists. We kill civilians.
When people started resisting the democrat/republican war on terror (I know, Democrats played good cop, but look at the votes. They've controlled Congress and the country for years now), the US military grade Anthrax went to media and some democratic members of Congress that weren't on board.
It's been messed up for a while, but as soon as that US military grade Anthrax, by strain and makeup, which even the FBI tracked to a US military base, started hitting the "liberal media" watchdogs and Congress, they fell right on board.
When it comes to military, the democratic and republican run US takes the most obvious, ruthless strategy, no matter how horrible we all think it is. It's just a matter of what can be properly positioned. I am not a monster by recognizing the obvious, am I?
The old saying holds true. When you ignore the violation of others, it eventually becomes you, your family or descendents. There is no violation of basic human rights that does not spread.
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Posted by: JoshuaLudd on May 25, 2009 5:32 PM
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That controverts international as well as american law, and frankly this man should be at the very least asked to retire with what little honor he has, or perhaps just courtmartial him for conduct unbecoming.
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Posted by: Jayzer on May 25, 2009 7:02 PM
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In your haste to declare that journalists who convey information that you would rather the public not hear be summarily executed, have you ever considered the possibility that anything that you wish could come back to you?
If you really think it too much bother to refute stories that you deem to be false, inflammatory and a threat to our troops and would prefer to resort to murder, then why should ANYONE obey you or your ilk?
As a matter of fact, if your calls to keep the empire sheltered from the consequences of its crime become any louder, then I will get just as loud and call out: TURN THE GUNS AROUND! ARREST THE WAR CRIMINALS AND IF THEY DON'T COME QUIETLY----FRAG THEM!
I sincerely hope that others will join me in that call because I suspect that there are other protofascists like you who just may take up your call, so I suspect that I will need some allies, too.
May you have many unpleasant nightmares, now that we're onto you.
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Posted by: reelman on May 26, 2009 8:59 AM
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They are who they are...to deny reality is a liberal trademark...its a requirement for entry into lib-land...the place where we must work hard to become a large Cuba...liberals are so pathetic.
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Posted by: halg on May 31, 2009 8:52 PM
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Add to that the blindness of many posters here who seriously believe the media is controlled by the left. Oh, if only that were so. Truly leftist journalists would expose these rackets for just what they are: rackets. And the public would be outraged, bringing unbearable pressure to stop every one of these wars.
No, the media are owned and operated by the autocratic wealthy class. Do not be deceived by seeming overtures of "fairness" or balance in reporting. That is only done to comfort those who think they are leftist but do not read Chomsky, Zinn, or anything critical of the U.S. They are just as blind as their right-wing counterparts.
Remember, there is only so far reporters and journalists in the commercial media can go in criticizing the corporations partaking in war before their commercial advertisers become uncomfortable with the implications for their own enterprises. And PBS has become dangerously commercial as well, so take what they (don't) say with a grain of salt.
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